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When St. Louis Alderman Charles Troupe went to the local police and asked what they could do about the rising crime rate which was threatening his constituents' property and safety, a police commander explained that "there was nothing he could do to protect us and the community … that he didn't have the manpower." It was a warning which is being echoed across the country, where law enforcement officials are admitting more and more frequently that their abilities are limited to responding to crimes and investigating and apprehending the criminals after the fact. Cold comfort for citizens who want to protect their property and preserve their lives.

The advice which honest lawmen, like those represented by the Law Enforcement Alliance of America, are giving to citizens is to arm themselves and be prepared to defend their homes and families. As the economy worsens and crime rates rise, more and more responsibility will fall to individual citizens to provide for their own safety. Troupe has seen this need in St. Louis and in a recent statement he called for citizens to arm themselves and prepare for a more dangerous future, acknowledging that "the community has to be ready to defend itself, because it's clear the economy is going to get worse, and criminals are getting more bold." He is urging citizens in his district to purchase firearms and learn how to use them.

Around the nation there has been a dramatic rise in the sales of firearms and in citizens signing up for firearms instruction and training pursuant to obtaining a concealed carry license. This trend seems to be based on an expectation of a rise in the crime rate and a reduction in police services, despite the fact that in many parts of the country the crime rate is actually declining. Yet when it comes to personal safety, fear of uncertain times may play a bigger role than any real threat. As one elderly new gun owner in North Carolina put it, "I'm sick of looking at old people like myself getting knocked down for no reason. I want something to protect myself.” Experts suggest that uncertainty about the future, fear of government interference in gun rights and worries over crime and the economy all contribute to increased concern about crime and increased interest in guns for self-defense. One Virginia gun buyer summed up the common concerns: "It's insurance. With the stock market crash and people out of work, and the illegal aliens in this area, the probability of civil disorder is very high."

All forms of crime have been on a steady decline since the early 1990s, but concern over the threat of crime is higher than it has been in decades. Every year polls show a strong conviction among the public that crime is worse than it was the year before, especially in the nation as a whole, if not in the respondent's local area. In fact, the belief that crime is increasing has risen close to the levels of the 1980s, when crime actually was increasing. This suggests that factors other than a rise in actual crime play a large role in causing people to anticipate the widespread outbreak of crime in the near future. Troubles in the economy may be the largest factor, as increases in concern over crime seem to coincide with periods of economic decline.

Although this anticipatory paranoia has gone unfulfilled in recent years, it is true that during previous periods of economic troubles the crime rate did increase, though not dramatically. There were small upward turns in the overall downward trend in crime during the recessions of the late 1970s and mid-1980s. Yet despite this, all crime remains dramatically down and property crime is down almost 70% in the last 35 years.

Of course, it can be argued that no matter how few crimes there are, if you happen to be one of the targets, that will more than justify whatever precautions you take. A homeowner killed in a break-in gets zero consolation from the fact that he was one of a smaller pool of victims than he would have been part of 20 years ago. It's also little help that the national crime rate is down if you live in Chicago or Detroit or one of the other areas where crime is atypically on the rise. This is why arming for self-defense will always be a matter of individual choice.

The dismaying truth is that despite my belief that every responsible citizen should be armed, with budgets tight and uncertain times ahead, there may be better ways to spend $500 than buying a gun for home defense. Playing the odds, unless the economy crashes more completely than we've seen since the 1920s, you'd be better off saving the money for a rainy day.

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  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    BTW, as a personal note on this article, it came out the peculiar way it did because I started to write with one conclusion in mind and by the time I was done with the research the facts changed my mind.

    So don’t say it never happens.

    Dave

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Playing the odds, unless the economy crashes more completely than we’ve seen since the 1920s, you’d be better off saving the money for a rainy day.

    If the American economy didn’t appear more wobbly than a drunk about to fall off his barstool, I’d say you were giving sound advice. Budgets are tight and people are scared – very scared. But it appears that saving money – only to see it lose all of its value – is the last thing one should do. The gun, the canned food, the bottled water, the bags of rice, flour and other essentials for survival, are more essential for survival than paintings of Gorge Washington and Abraham Lincoln. I missed getting this link into a comment elsewhere, but it seems relevant here as well. Uncle Jay, my favorite new fellow for Explaining the News, put this out on 22 September of last year. Enjoy!

  • Cindy D

    Dave,

    As I was reading it, I thought I sensed that peculiar aspect.

    I enjoyed it very much.

  • http://philobiblon.co.uk Natalie Bennett

    More guns in difficult times equals more suicides among gun-owners and their families – a lot more deaths than would potentially be saved by any “positive” use of a gun in self-defence.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    To say nothing of the prospect of an irrationally fearful populace becoming both more armed and more prepared to use weapons being a pretty ugly recipe for disaster.

    Dave, I could go along with your idea that “every responsible citizen should be armed”, but in my view that would mean a vast reduction in the number of weapons held by civilians.

  • Clavos

    Certainly the suicides would thin the ranks, probably to the benefit of society.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Chris,

    LOL.

  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    I have a feeling Chris and I draw the line differently on where responsible gun ownership begins.

    Dave

  • http://loftypremise.blogspot.com/ Tommy Mack

    Dave,
    I would like to amend “…that every responsible citizen should be armed” by removing the word “responsible.” I do not care if they are responsible or not.

    Nor do I care to indulge in the “right to bear arms” rhetoric at all. I think that than everyone who can tote a weapon should do so. By all means, slap on the leather and bear arms.

    Ammunition is another matter. Posessing ammunition should be stifly regulated.

    Tommy

  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    Tommy, I’m all for arming as many people as possible, but I think we can draw the line at violent criminals and the dangerously insane.

    Dave

  • Cindy D

    So, Bush can’t have a gun?

  • http://loftypremise.blogspot.com/ Tommy Mack

    I live south of Oakland where it remains truly the wild-wild west. Shootings are a daily event. Just North of Oakland is the City of Richmond. Not long ago while I was there on business, a drive by shooting in front of the courthouse happened. Let’s see, a courthouse – a place occupied by police, who are armed. I am told Richmond used to be a nice place to live.

    Across the bay in the city, San Francisco, there is plenty of gun related crime as occurs where ever there are dense populations. It seems that the baddies prefer the east bay for mayhem and random murder. Today we even have video released of a police shooting.

    Home protection and hand guns make a good debate. However, here it comes way down the page from cold blooded shootings in public.

    Tommy

  • http://ex-conservative.blogspot.com Glenn Contrarian

    Doggone it – I saw what looked to be a pro-gun article and I was all pumped up ready to go on a pro-gun-control rant (never mind that I strongly support the right to legally own guns)…and then he goes and throws a curveball with the ‘save your money’ line!

    It’s sorta like that pilot in the first Star Wars down in the trench – “Almost there…almost there…” and all for nuthin!

    Ah, forgeddaboutit! I goin’ to bed! Good night!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Tommy,

    Since it appears you’re going to be a regular contributor/commenter to Blogcritics, it would help our readers if you could provide properly formatted (clickable) links when you want to refer to something on another site.

    If you’re not sure how to do this, here is a quick and easy tutorial.

    Thanks,
    Dr Dreadful
    Assistant Comments Editor

  • STM

    Dave, perhaps with the new austerity they could make a bow and arrows instead. There’s armed and armed … the 2nd amendment doesn’t talk about firearms, just the right to bear arms.

    A bow and arrows fits the bill perfectlty as a recession-busting weapon.

    You could do a piece on how to cut the wood, how to make the strings, feather the arrows, build the arrow heads by casting them yourself, etc.

    Total cost … not more than about $80.

    Then they could use the remaining $420 to go out for a slap-up meal at a big-noting restaurant or simply use it to top up the lawyer’s bills after someone gets shot in the eye, thus taking some of the sting away.

    One of our other commentators given to wearing such things could do a complementary piece on how to sew a nice pair of tights, with instructions on how they should be worn.

    I’m an expert on silly green hats, so I’ll stick me two-bob’s worth in too!

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Bows and arrows take too damned long to reload, Stan. I like the blam! blam! action of the semi-automatics myself for that precise reason.

  • Irene wagner

    If the “highway fatalities/total passengers” ratio went down while the “fastened seat belts/total passengers” ratio went up, would it be logical to relax and quit clicking? Whatever, just a rhethorical question. Dave Nalle, compared to other BC treatments of this subject, your article is so balanced as to nearly…nearly…appear wishy-washy. Good job!

    I’m not a God’n’Guns gal. I’d love it if everyone (me included!) had the faith to be able to face down Evil with nothing but the strength of his or her own spirit, in submission to God’s. If down to his last 500 CENTS that kind of individual would have all the ammo he needed in any possible economic/social upheaval. He’s ready to die, and if it isn’t time to do that yet, he’s capable and pure enough to call down spiritual entities that would, quite literally, scare the hell out of any mortal would-be attacker.

    But would I want to impose that faith on an unbeliever by taking his gun away, and telling him he needed to “trust in the Lord” instead? Enforcing defenselessness is an act of aggression, and whatever you may say about taking away a mother’s right to kill her unborn baby, taking away any reasonable means for a mother to protect her child is worse, by an order of magnitude, or several.

  • Condor

    Weapons are relative. I have a tool bag (Electrician) that could probably contains various tools/objects to defend myself 25 different ways and exact 1385 tortures… but a simple mechanical device called a pistol hidden away from prying eyes is much more effecient. I’m all over effeciency.

    Semper Paratus!

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Perhaps in the name of efficiency you could add a spell checker to your toolkit…

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Ruvy is obviously not aware of the alacrity that Middle Earth Elves have with bow and arrow.

    B

  • Arch Conservative

    “Perhaps in the name of efficiency you could add a spell checker to your toolkit…”

    That was the first and will probably be the last and only time Christopher said something that made me laugh.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    That’s just ‘cos you don’t know me, Archie, even sober I’m a really funny guy! ;-)

  • zingzing

    it’s too early in the day for a love-fest, boys.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    But it is 6.20pm here and I’m happy cos Manchester United just beat Southampton 3-0 in the FA Cup 3rd Round…

    Go on, you know you want to, join the loving!

  • zingzing

    ugh. manchester united. go everton. the blue day will come again, you’ll see. actually, last i saw, they were doing fairly well this season. but it’s been a good month since i checked, and things usually go downhill towards the end of the year. fuckin’ everton…

    i guess it is late over there, but it’s still early afternoon in the only time zone that counts.

    so, no thank you. maybe later.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Everton are still up there, zing. They’re a solid, if unspectacular team, and are one of two clubs (the other being Aston Villa) which look the most likely to be able to mount a sustained challenge to the oligopoly of the Big Four.

  • zingzing

    oligopoly… now that’s a SAT word. oligopoly, it’s been years.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I wonder how many Scrabble points it scores.

  • Cindy D

    Dr.D,

    I wonder how many years of play it would take to find a space to put it. Guess you could add to the word “go”.

    At least 50 points for the bingo.

  • http://ex-conservative.blogspot.com Glenn Contrarian

    Condor –

    Hailing from the Coast Guard?

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    I have a can’t lose game winner of a word for you. Syzygy. It is a word. Look it up. I actually got to use it once, and it did give me the win.

    My younger son plays on-line Scrabble quite a bit. I told him to keep syzygy in his back pocket.
    It could come in handy. One could also use syzygial or syzygies, the plural form. (Can you use plurals in Scrabble? I’m not really up on the rules.)

    B

  • Irene wagner

    Syzygy in his back pocket is more likely to do him good if he keeps some extra Y- and Z- tiles in there with it. Yes, you can use plurals, Baritone. You’ll often see an S placed a few seconds before the egg timer is about to ding.

  • Paul

    In the last several years, England and Australia banned firearms and had severe rises in their rates of violent crime, especially gun crime. The rate of “hot” burglaries – “hot” meaning that someone is home – is 69% in England while its 29% in the US. That’s because English criminals know that their victims are unarmed. Criminals when surveyed say they are all for gun control since it lessens the chance of them meeting an armed victim.

    Believe me, when the economy collapses and the dollar is worthless, you’re going to wish you had a firearm.

  • Eddie

    It’s not possible for an average citizen to verify a government’s crime rate statistics, so we really don’t know if the rates are rising or falling. All governments lie to their citizenry when it serves their purposes. Empirical evidence is all we can go on. Many ill-informed people will tell you that crime was just as bad fifty years. Well, my grandparents never locked their doors fifty years (South-Western Pennsylvania). If a break-in, robbery, rape, and worse had occurred in their neighborhood, they would have found out about it immediately. Neighbors actually spoke with one another back then. They eventually began to lock their doors (1960s) when break-ins began to happen. Finally, crime may actually be dropping but it sure doesn’t feel like it. I think I know why: We lack civility. Today, people are louder, more aggressive, more disrespectful, selfish, shallow, and ignorant. A simple disagreement on the street can lead to violence. That changes the dynamics of our environment. It doesn’t FEEL safe out there anymore, and it probably isn’t. I’m armed. I hope you are too.

  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    Eddie, where do you live. Where I live crimes are few and far between. Nothing like when I was younger when crime seemed like a real threat.

    Dave

  • STM

    Paul: “In the last several years, England and Australia banned firearms and had severe rises in their rates of violent crime, especially gun crime.”

    First: That is absolute rubbish … in Australia, gun crime is way down – about half – of what it was before the so-called gun bans in 1996.

    Second: I challenge you to read this whole post, not just the first four lines, to get your head around the truth. I get sick of Americans who don’t know anything about this coming here without figures to back themselves up. The reason: those figures show uneqivocally gun crime in Australia at least is way down compared to a decade ago.

    Produce some links, mate. I live in Australia, and I know the truth. While it’s been on the rise again recently in New South Wales – the State with the most lax firearms laws in Australia – it’s still way down.

    Firearms AREN’T BANNED in Australia, not by a long shot. However, strict controls and vetting apply, including licences that need to approved by the police and which will be removed if a holder is the subject of a domestic- or apprehended violence order. Every shooter needs a separate licence for each additional firearm they own.

    Certain types of weapon – ie, SKS semi-automatics from China, AR-15s and pump-action shotties – are banned, mainly because these were the types of firearms most often used in mass killings, of which there were many in Australia – the last being the Port Arthur massacre in which 35 were killed. Interestingly, we haven’t had a mass “rampage”-type spree killing since that time.

    Even handguns aren’t banned, but you need to have a better reason to keep one that for “proptection”, which as figures in the US show is hardly ever the cause of a shooting. Most gun homicides in the US committed with legal guns are a spouse, friend or family member murdering someone they know.

    Since the so-called gun ban in Australia, most shootings have been crims shooting at other crims.

    40,000 new guns have been registered in New South Wales over the past four years, and lo and behold, that’s the period when gun crime has been going up.

    Might have something to do with, as the cops are suggesting, that 2-3 guns a day are stolen in NSW in break-and-enters on homes, especially in the Sydney metropolitan area.

    Our gun homicide rate in Australia is less than one-sixth what it is in the US, and in Britain it’s even lower compared to the US rate, even despite a recent increase in gun homicides (mostly gang related, mostly within the UK’s black community, mainly in London).

    But in both Australia and the UK, you will very likely face at least a manslaughter charge if you shoot someone breaking into home, so it’s all moot anyway, isn’t it.

    Get your facts straight Paul and drop your amero-centric view before you get on here and pontificate about things that have no basis in fact.

    Neither the UK or Australia have or have had a gun culture either, so you simply can’t apply American thinking or logic – is that an oxymoron in regards to this?? – to either of those places.

    America has become one giant shooting gallery.

    The UK and Australia are not.

  • Biff Baxter

    Typical Australians. The majority of these people are somewhere between cage hens and beef cattle in terms of their sentience.

    Gun crime, particularly home invasion, has been climbing year in and year out since the ban. Australia now has the highest rate of assault and battery and violent sexual crimes in the first world outside of Africa. This was made public by several European studies time and time again although the Oz press has been forbidden to ever reproduce these studies in their media. Outside of the Economist a few years back, these statistics are part of a don’t ask/don’t tell policy that permeates the country. Instead they publish stories about new perfumes for dogs, celebrity gossip and nude skydiving teams.

    Howard had a really clever idea after these statistics were exposed in the mass media worldwide in 2001-2003 … what if they just stopped reporting crime rates altogether? That way nobody would ever find out what was happening since the gun ban.

    Australia is a nation of placid slaves descended from convicts and genetic dross which were dumped like tip rubbish on these shores to rid England of their presence. They’ve gone distinctly downhill since those days in a big way. The average Australian is not much better than a domesticated animal and easily managed for revenue harvesting.

    Freedom was an idea that originated with humans and Aussies don’t count. Our ancestors gave us the right to bear arms for 1200 years and Australians gave it away in a single day. They’re beasts who can walk on their hind legs and utter some crude words with prompting. Doomed, each and every one of these fools.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Is this some weird comedy routine or are you just a nutcase?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I think he’s the first anti-aussie bigot I’ve encountered.

    He does have a point on crime rates, though. Many aren’t aware of it because so many sources work with out of date data, but as the US crime rate has been going down the crime rate in Europe and also Australia and New Zealand has been rising dramatically.

    In the latest ICVS study (once every 4 years, with the new one coming out next year), the US has dropped to 12th among developed nations, behind Ireland, England, New Zealand, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium and some others. In this 2005 report the US is still a hair ahead of Australia overall, but that is almost certain to change with this year’s report. For crimes like burglary and armed robbery and assault most of the European nations and Australia were already well ahead of the US in 2005 and it’s been getting worse.

    One thing I found interesting in the report is that the US isn’t even rated in the top 20 in hate crimes, but the European nations which have immigrant populations are having a big old party of hate, led (of course) by France.

    I’d say prepare to be shocked with the new report comes out this year.

    Dave

  • STM

    Lol. I wonder who’s minding the trailer while Biff’s at the Moonshine internet cafe.

    Biff, you are full of crap, it stinks, and the problem is, like too many of your countrymen of that same ilk as you, you believe your own bullshit. Deluxe.

    Australia’s crime rate isn’t isn’t anywhere near as high as that of the US. I notice you haven’t included any links to any facts – that’s because you won’t be able to find any because your argument is total bollocks.

    Nothing you say (which is of no importance anyway) changes anything … gun crime in Australia is less than a sixth of the figure for the US.

    Got a gun barrel up your arse, like so many of your gun-hugging nancy-boy mates bleating about freedoms that no longer exist in the US but who still use it as an excuse to keep a gun so they can prove how tough they are?

    At least Dave’s man enough to admit on here that he uses them to shoot feral animals – and just likes pissing about with guns. Good on him.

    You’ve got no excuse with all that freedom bullshit, you’re just being a prize goose … give yourself an uppercut.

    If you can find make a a fist and find your chin without help, that is.

  • zingzing

    does the icvs cover murder rates?

    property crimes are chicken feed. let’s see the blood.

  • Wally Webster

    I agree with the lady who wrote that imposing defenselessness on others is an act of agression. She’s also right about how everyone living with more faith would be infinitely more preferable to using guns and that nobody should be REQUIRED to carry a gun.
    In 2006, the Australian-published Nexus magazine ran a very good series of reports on how Martin Bryant couldn’t possibly have been the gunman at Port Arthur.I’m as sure of this as I am that I’m sitting here typing this little contribution from my local internet cafe in Wollongong.
    It might still be relatively easy to buy a gun in the MK’d land of Oz, but how easy is it to be allowed to keep one in your home for self-protection? Surely that’s the point, or a large part thereof.
    Why should we trust governments to be the sole bearers of arms? It’s not like they’ve got a good track record. It seems hard to imagine armed civilians being a threat to a modern military force, but governments obviously view it as enough of a problem to stage psyops like Virginia Tech or Port Arthur.Perhaps in additions to the outright military issue, governments sense that a disarmed populace can be moved more quickly in any direction they want to take them, ie they can escalate their programme more easily- it’s less of a headache to implement. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Ruvy is obviously not aware of the alacrity that Middle Earth Elves have with bow and arrow.

    When I see one of the Middle Earth Elves wearing an IDF uniform, I’ll get interested – till then….

  • Biff Baxter

    I’ve lived in Australia for 18 years.

    The Australian population is a joke. They’re synthetics. A socialist government’s dream race of natural born slaves.

    Too busy watching cricket and drinking beer for much in the way of thinking.

    It makes me cringe to think about the “Australian character” – they are the worst passive aggressives that ever came out of the bottom silt of the Anglo-Saxon gene pool.

    There is a reason the English didn’t want them. 200 years later, they’re the children of their fathers that you would expect. Blood is thicker than water. The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree. Thick browed, thuggish, sodomites exactly like it read on the ship’s manifest when they were sent over here.

    Anybody who thinks that any population in the world is safer with guns only in the hands of the government deserves exactly what happens to them.

    Australians are historically irrelevant. They are like those bones they find sometimes of some forgotten race of men that was quietly exterminated by outsiders somewhere.

    Surrounded by 200 million radical islamics and you people decide this is a good time to disarm the citizenry. What abject halfwits.

  • Biff Baxter

    Wally Webster = Spot on.

    The fact is, guns create peace, restraint and good manners wherever they are found. There is scarcely a social virtue to be enumerated that does not issue from a general ownership of arms. It’s the great equalizer.

    Australians are the rudest and most dehumanized race in the world. They never say “Excuse me,” or “Please” or “Thanks.” Sometimes they’ll grunt but it’s often an expression of contempt mixed with this ugly natural scorn they call “mateship.”

    They should try living in Texas a couple of years and see how long it takes them to get a bullet in the head. In Texas, you’re polite and civil or else you’re dead. That’s why everybody in Texas is so exquisitely mannered in all things.

    Aussies are stupid. Something is wrong with their minds. Talk to them, you’ll see. They don’t understand the world or much of anything. They’re easy pickings … all the government had to do is pull a little psy-op and they stripped the natives bare of all their arms with little opposition.

    The fact is, guns in private hands cause the government to be restrained in their rule. That’s why the Aussie government had been planning five years before Port Arthur to completely remove them from the local oafs altogether. Who in the hell wants their sheep/cows carrying Colt .45s? It makes it hard to get them on the the truck when the time comes to send them to the slaughterhouse.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/clarence_yu Clarence Yu

    “This is why arming for self-defense will always be a matter of individual choice.”

    As well as it should be. Very sensible article. Thanks!

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Biff, knock it off with the attitude and insults or I will have to ban you immediately.

    Christopher Rose
    Blogcritics Comments Editor

  • Biff Baxter

    Rule the planet for less than $1000 a day.

    Notice how every single one of these strange and quixotic “attacks” from “terrorists” doesn’t work without the media screaming down any honest questions. It’s a just-so story. Just so.

    Sheeple taste good come harvest time.

  • STM

    Hey Biff, is there anything about Australians you don’t like.

    If you hate this place so much, how come you stayed 18 years??

    You could always bugger off back to wherever it was you came from. You probably wouldn’t be missed.

    We’ll do a whip around for you and get you a one-way ticket.

    Thanks for tipping us into that website by the way. It does point out that gun crime is much lower since the “gun bans”.

  • STM

    Lol. John Howard’s psy-ops fellas grab your guns did they?

    Texas beckons, and awaits you! Remember to be polite though, Biff, or Dave will nail you for not saying Thank’ee.

  • fsilber

    So what if the crime rate is much lower than in the early 1990s? The standard is the crime rate of the 1950s, and today’s crime rate is still way higher.

    There is no reason any American should tolerate being mugged, carjacked, raped or having a burglar in the house. We have a _right_ not to tolerate it, and we have no need to tolerate us. If our ancestors with Bowie knives and flintlocks could deal with wolves, grizzly bears and wild Injuns, there’s no reason we should be unable to dispatch soft-skinned burglars, rapists, muggers and carjackers.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    The fact is, guns create peace, restraint and good manners wherever they are found.

    Quite.

    I wasn’t there, but I’m certain that the soldiers at My Lai went around saying, “Excuse me, good sir, madam, may I just say what a lovely village you have here! I know it’s a terrible imposition, but would you mind awfully if we brutally massacred you all? It won’t take long and is quite painless after the initial shock…”

    Good fucking grief.

  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    But Dr. D., you’ve got to admit that after all the pesky villagers were dead, My Lai was awfully peaceful.

    Dave

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Sure. And the corpses were very restrained. Not one of them complained.

  • bliffle

    The good thing about arming yourself against marauders is that if things get bad enough in your own economics you are ready-armed to go out and do some marauding yourself!

    Since the economy is bound to get worse before it gets better (apparently the Obama team is signing up for the big Tax Cuts strategy that got us into this mess in the first place, so we can expect things to get worse) more and more of us will be out there marauding, ambushing, waylaying, etc., the few unarmed citizens left.

    So, finally, we shall have a society based purely upon Power! Immediate armed power! Feudalism at last! The dream of the neo-republicans.

  • bliffle

    So, I’m auditioning appropriate weapons for my personal ‘protection’. I rather like this little dandy:

    mini machine gun

    Should be pretty good, even for a frail old doddering idiot like me. Just hope that Alzheimers or some kind of dementia doesn’t hit me while operating this thing: the damage to innocent bystanders could be rather notable. On the other hand, what would I care?

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    Bliffle,

    How about a nice big dog, very friendly to friends but equipped with a really loud, deep bark. They are great company and full of love, but can scare the bad guys. Might not work so well in an urban environment, but out here in the country I can’t think of a better companion/protector.

    We have a pack of five. I don’t really know how effective they would be in the event of an actual problem, because thus far no problem has arisen. Our worker has passed the word that they are out at night (untrue — they sleep in our bedroom) and are vicious (far from the truth as well).

    Dan(Miller)

  • bliffle

    Too bad Dan(Miller), my Mini Machine Gun would make quick work of those pesky dogs. And a bunch of other people in the immediate area.

    When I was younger, about a hundred years ago, I would have grabbed one of these:

    Big Gun!

    “Yer money or yer life (and the lives of a hundred people behind you!)”.

  • bliffle

    Now ya see this guy is obviously poorly matched to his weapon. Too heavy. I would use this to propel my high-speed escape via my walker!

    big bang

  • http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/ Dave Nalle

    Bliff, your first gun looks like a modified Mac10 with a vented barrel. The second is a T-Rex .577 or something similar. The last is this custom modified .700 Nitro Express.

    The second one is a good example of an idiot who has no idea what he’s doing shooting a gun which he shouldn’t be shooting. I’m just wondering what you would shoot with the third gun if you could shoot it – which anyone with a proper stance (unlike those idiots) ought to be able to do. Are they planning to go dinosaur hunting? Maybe shooting out the engines of cars?

    If you want to see a truly scary gun, take a look at the GAU-8. Note how after only a few seconds of firing outside of a water cooling system the barrels become white-hot.

    Dave

  • bliffle

    Scary? I think it’s sexy! All this gun talk is making me hot. My face is flushed, and…what’s this that I haven’t felt in a while…?

  • Biff Baxter

    Democratic Republics becoming popular worldwide at the exact same time as mass manufacture of handguns was not a coincidence.

    From freedom back into bondage. Spengler was right.

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/39420/joanne_huspek.html Joanne Huspek

    The downturn in the economy was the excuse my husband gave for taking the gun safety class and getting a concealed weapons permit. I’m not sure I’m buying it, but if anything, we can now shoot our own dinner.