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Watch out Bush… the kooks are comin’!

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Welcome to monday. I know some of us are very distraught about the latest political atmosphere lately — OK, WE’RE FRIGGIN’ PISSED!. There, I said it. Anyway, we are recovering and getting on with our lives, planning, and thinking of ways that we might be able to make a difference in our country. At one end there are people that simply go “Oh well” back to Starbucks for a frothy, overly sweet coffee, and then at the other end of the spectrum you have people like me that have just slowly begun to recover and come back from the ranks of the enraged. I’m drinkin’ my coffee black!

But at the far, far corner of the “world of the pissed” lies John Kerry (who will recover and move on) and the now infamous Andrew Veal, 25, of Athens, Georgia who recently took his life at ground zero in protest of our new president and the Iraq war. This guy was in love and engaged to be married. He had his whole life ahead of him and he just chucked it all because of G.W. and his policies.

This is extreme man and you just have to wonder what other loonies are just lying in wait to make their statement. It has been since our 40th president and the wild 80’s when president Reagan was shot by a kook. H.W. made it thru Saddam’s supposed assassination attempt
and Clinton — well, we all loved him deep down — except for the far right mob squads. Assassination attempts are not things that we’ve thought about much lately and I’m sure that our secret service has learned from their past mistakes. But this country has a deep dark place where loons hide and considering that half of our country was very much against this president, I just might be a little bit cautious if I were him.

Of course I am not suggesting anything for sure. It’s just the simple fact that where there is one kook, there are an army of kooks just waiting to come out of the dark and do looney things when we are not expecting it

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  • boomcrashbaby

    Don’t forget the kooks on the far right side will be embolden by this election and probably come out to bash a few people who don’t fit into their country anymore. An increase in violence against minorities usually follows the passing of discriminatory legislation.

  • http://xrrf.blogspot.com simon hb

    Erm… actually, he appears to have killed himself because he was having an affair on top of his engaged-to-be-married relationship; the bush/ground zero thing seems to be the usual suicide behaviour of making sure they get noticed when they go (see also that bloke who took six other people with him by parking his car on a railway line in Berkshire on Saturday).

    I’m not quite sure how you get from a poor chap killing himself to the possibility of Bush being killed…

  • http://www.yensid.org Yensid

    My point is the anger of the defeated. Some people will deal with it and move on. Considering the size of our population there is a sizable minority that will go beyond moving on or revolting in a possitive way for change. They will get militant and well… kooky! That is all I am saying. And yes, I agree with the first comment. Part of the craziness might come out in the form of gay bashing, abortionist killing, stem cell scientist killling, etc. because people feel emboldened now that their views have been “justified” by the majority.

  • boomcrashbaby

    There may be some people so angry over defeat, that they resort to violence. I would think though, our government is used to being ready for that though. I would agree with your blog overall, but disagree that it is of MORE likelihood than kookiness from the victors. America usually gets it backwards. It’s the ones on top who are the most violent and emboldened. Trust me, as a minority who has lost more legal battles than won, I know this to be true.

    and so it begins.

  • Gee Dubs

    Try this hat on for size…it is usually the disenfranchised that does all the hollering…not the victors. It’s the gays in America that usually get it backwards. I don’t think it is wise to trust someone who has lost so many legal battles. Just one man’s opinion.

    Like your underware, you got things turn around Baby.

  • boomcrashbaby

    it is usually the disenfranchised that does all the hollering…not the victors.

    I’m not talking about hollering. I’m talking about violence. And statistics show us that when anti-gay agendas pass, there is an increase in homophobic violence.

    I don’t think it is wise to trust someone who has lost so many legal battles. Just one man’s opinion.

    I don’t really know how many legal battles were lost and how many were won for comparison. When reading that statement, that should be a given, it was a generalization. We have won so much, from the Supreme Court knocking down sodomy laws, to the Mass. marriage, to protection in jobs, etc. It’s actually the legal battles we WIN, it’s the vote we lose. So I should modify that statement. Lady Liberty is on our side. Trudy and her cake-baking church-going cronies are not.

    Like your underware, you got things turn around Baby.

    The fact that I have male genitalia makes turning my underwear around difficult. I don’t expect you to understand, Gee Dubs.

  • Gee Dubs

    The fact that I have male genitalia makes turning my underwear around difficult.

    You would know Baby. Glad to see you over come adversity.

    If you gay fellows have accomplished so much why do you continue complaining? Why can’t you be ‘gay’ instead filled with so much discontent. I think your anger is directly related to your feeling of being sexually disenfranchised. There is nothing anyone can do about this.

  • boomcrashbaby

    If you gay fellows have accomplished so much why do you continue complaining?

    Because discrimination and prejudice and ignorance still exist.

    Why can’t you be ‘gay’ instead filled with so much discontent.

    How does one be ‘gay’? Society is attacking my family, I’m doing what any father would and defending or fighting for the legal rights and protection for my family.

    I think your anger is directly related to your feeling of being sexually disenfranchised.

    My anger is at so many people who want the government to promote their religion.

    There is nothing anyone can do about this.

    There is, we keep fighting the good fight. If someone wants to believe I am a sinner, that’s their right. They do not have the right to have my government condemn me because of their religious belief. That is a theocracy. Right now, we’ve been dealt a major setback, but we will keep fighting the fight for liberty for all, for as long as we are here.

  • Gee Dubs

    Baby,

    You got it bad. Here’s the crux of it, it is a clash of life style and not religions. Most of America is enfranchised. They have the choice to have sex with anyone they want. For the most part, they choose partners that will make a good father or mother. They want to have children and raise them. They want grandchildren and such. In short, they want little girls to wear the pink tutus and not hair legged men.

    It only has to do with one thing…tolerance. Can our society tolerate yours? Can you think of a single reason why we should?

  • http://www.foliage.com/~marks Mark Saleski

    Can you think of a single reason why we should?

    because the constitutionality of a law has nothing to do with the will of the majority?

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Gee Dubs, glad to see you’re posting your bigotry under you own name these days.

  • Gee Dubs

    Eleven states voted to ban same sex marriage. California courts un-did the homosexual marriages in that state. Mass legislature has stopped the nonsense in that state. Now it is just a matter of time before we have a constitutional amendment banning homosexual marriage. Where ever one looks they can find examples where one society has shown less and less tolerance for the legitmacy your kind. This isn’t gay bashing or homophobic…it’s reality. As I said before, there is a direct collalation between sexual unfulfillment or disenfranchisement as I like to say and your level of disatifaction. There is nothing anyone can do to help you with your problem. Not even Darwin could explain it.

    What you’re talking about mark is a kinda PETA for gays. It doesn’t address the tolerance issue.

    BHW, thank you for taking note.

  • http://www.foliage.com/~marks Mark Saleski

    What you’re talking about mark is a kinda PETA for gays.

    uhm….no.

    i’m talking about equal protection.

  • boomcrashbaby

    As I said before, there is a direct collalation between sexual unfulfillment or disenfranchisement as I like to say and your level of disatifaction.

    Gee Dubs, I have been with women. I have been with men. I know fulfillment. Your thought that gay people are motivated by sexual frustration is going on the prejudice that a gay person is motivated solely by sex.

    Sexual orientation is not a verb. It is not an action. It is a part of your inner self. It involves love, bonding, and commitment, for many people. From any relationship founded out of love, a family can grow, believe it or not, because it’s happening by the millions in the gay community.

    These families are legitimate families. They involve children, they involve interacting with the PTA, they involve two names on the checks in the checkbook, they involve co-signing on insurance forms and mortgages, leases, etc. We can’t just pretend our families don’t exist to make other people happy.

    I think that whoever Bush puts in the Supreme Court will determine whether equality is reached in my lifetime or not. Amendments can be repealed. Time is on our side. Ultimately we will win and ultimately the history books of our great great grandchildren will reflect the proper perspective of which side is on the side of humanity, love and all that is good within us, and which side is on the side of hatred.

  • Gee Dubs

    Maybe in the the lifetimes of your great great great great great great great (ad infintum) will you be able to repeal the amendment until then perhaps you should give it a rest.

    You cannot deny that there is a tremendous level of discontent in all that you say. You blame the repubs or the religious right or some ignorant person who doesn’t agree with you. I am just willing to bet that if you were a hetrosexual that you wouldn’t be so angry with everyone else. I have a feeling that you found scorn in your hetrosexual relationships and because of that sexual disenfranchisement you have turned to a gay one. ONce again, Baby, it is not my fault that you are sexually disenfranchised. You need to seek out help…and it’s not around here)

  • boomcrashbaby

    You cannot deny that there is a tremendous level of discontent in all that you say.

    Discontent can be defined as longing for a better set of circumstances. Since I long for a time to not be subjected to YOUR religious beliefs, in that aspect, I could be considered to be discontented, I suppose.

    I have a feeling that you found scorn in your hetrosexual relationships and because of that sexual disenfranchisement you have turned to a gay one.

    Well, your feeling that you base your judgement on, is erroneous, because you don’t know the order of any of my relationships. Since your feeling is wrong, the judgement you base it on, is wrong as well.

    You need to seek out help…and it’s not around here

    Not in this country, I agree!

  • Gee Dubs

    Baby,

    You are not subjected to my religious belief.

    Tomorrow, you will have the same ‘issues’ to deal with.

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Boom, I guess you just need a good woman to set you straight! It’s all becoming clear now.

    Alas, I’m taken, but I could send a friend or two your way for a good, old fashioned het-er-o-sex-u-al schtooping.

  • http://macaronies.blogspot.com Mac Diva

    I know better than to say anything to Eric Olsen about this. He will respond that Gee Dubs is being “good-natured.”

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    I’m sure it is a wonderful thing. Sexuality in general is a wonderful thing. I just play for the other team.

    But I support gay rights very vocally and am, as a result, often “accused” of being gay, as if being gay would make me less of a person.

    Thanks for continuing the trend.

  • http://theugliestamerican.blogspot.com andy marsh

    not that there’s anything wrong with that!!! As Jerry would say!

  • MCH

    Re comment #20;
    Just exactly what does “…no male that found you attracting enough…” mean?? Is that another Bush-ism??

  • http://gratefuldread.net Natalie Davis

    Yet again, I read a topic and yet again, I see “comments” that are beyond the pale. Some may find them entertaining or “good natured” on some level, but others find them completely repulsive. It’s no wonder some have taken their leave — who wants to be subjected to the personalites who create such filth?

    Once more I suggest an “ignore” mechanism, filter, what have you. Please. Pretty please. I am begging.

  • boomcrashbaby
  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Boom, I thought I’d figured out how to write a decent rant. I stand corrected.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ

    “Lady Liberty is on our side. Trudy and her cake-baking church-going cronies are not.”

    Actually…

    A small number of unelected judges in Massachusetts are on your side.

    The vast majority of everybody else isn’t.