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While there are many Senators and Congressmen on both sides of the aisle who have embarrassed themselves in public in one way or another, especially at last year’s health care townhalls, there are a few figures who stand out as so dimwitted and egotistical that they deserve special recognition. It may be that we’ve always been plagued with these elected buffoons, but now with the 24 hour news channels and everyone posting videos on YouTube, every desire to hog the spotlight is indulged and every misstep is well documented.

To see how bad things have gotten we just need to look at the recent behavior of two elected Democrats who have humiliated themselves and their party for very different reasons, but who both stand out as sickening examples of why the people, including increasing numbers of Democrats, are looking for any way they can find to vote them out of office.

The big star of the idiot left right now is the egomaniacal Alan Grayson (D-FL) who is attracted to the news cameras like a moth to the flame and always has something moronic or insane to say when the camera focuses on him. YouTube has become a virtual monument to his unbelievable soundbytes and bombastic partisan tirades. He’s good TV because he can always be counted on to say something nuts and offensive and stir up debate.

Grayson reached the pinacle of nuttiness and bigotry this past week when he accused a Florida doctor of racism because he doesn’t want to serve voters who supported Obamacare. He has also recently called a lobbyist a “whore,” called Dick Cheney a “vampire” and called Republicans “knuckle dragging neanderthals.” Grayson loves the camera and has plenty of partisan insults and colorful language to throw around. The good news is that credible Republicans are lining up to challenge Grayson this fall, including Tea Party favorite Patricia Sullivan. The district has traditionally voted Republican and with Tea Party activism so strong in Florida Grayson might be in trouble.

While Grayson is a camera-loving blowhard, the other stellar Democrat I have to draw attention to is Congressman Phil Hare (D-IL) whose comments caught on video last week have gone viral on the internet. In the process of defending Obamacare, Hale commented “I don’t worry about the Constitution” and then confuses the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and says of his oath to uphold the Constitution, “it doesn’t matter to me.”

Hare is running in the heavily gerrymandered 17th district in Illinois, a district basically designed to keep any Democrat in office, yet despite that he has become so unpopular that recent polling shows him losing ground to Republican Bobby Schilling who only trails by 7 points. No polls have been taken since his appalling comments on the Constitution became widely distributed on the internet, so if voters are paying attention Hare may be in trouble. Whether Hare gets elected may be a real test of how awakened the American people are. Even Democrats ought to be turning against such an obvious fool. There have to be some limits to partisan loyalty.

They say that most Democrats will vote for a yellow dog or an old rag if it has the Democrat label attached to it, but there are some signs that Democrats are beginning to realize how they have been betrayed by their party of choice. Contrary to the frequent claim the tea parties are a right-wing phenomenon, a recent poll shows that 13% of the tea party membership is made up of Democrats and those numbers may be growing.

That’s a sign of hope, and if we can manage to get Grayson and Hare out of Congress the quality of the membership would increase immeasurably. And while you’re thinking about it, why have no Democrats come forward to condemn these representatives’ behavior? Are they utterly without shame? Democrat leaders actually praise Grayson periodically and secretly laugh at his bigotry, while Hare has thus far been given a free pass by his party. Does this mean that the whole party is as hate-filled as Grayson and holds the same antipathy towards the Constitution as Hare? If so, maybe they all need to be voted out of office.

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  • http://jonsobel.com/ Jon Sobel

    Grayson’s comments are just plain idiotic. And this guy Hare seems to be something of a dope, but his talk about the Constitution was clearly rhetorical. What bothers me a lot more than a couple of dunderheaded Democrats is the vitriolic tone in the voices of Hare’s interlocutors. I don’t even want to live in the same country with such hatefulness. Hearing people like that makes my blood run cold.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dave –

    It’s all a matter of degree…and whenever the Republicans are OBJECTIVELY compared alongside the Democrats, the Republicans are found wanting.

    For every Democratic politician you show me who’s used insults and fire-breathing, I’ll show you FIVE Republican politicians who’ve used worse.

    For every Democratic district that you claim is a result of gerrymandering, I’ll show you TWO Republican districts that are every bit as bad…and I’ll start in Texas!

    For every Democratic politician who’s been indicted or convicted in the past four decades, I’ll show you TWO Republican politicians who’ve been indicted or convicted.

    For every fraudulent vote for a Democrat that’s been proven in the past decade, I’ll show you a THOUSAND registered voters who’ve been wrongfully disenfranchised by Republicans and their operatives.

    It’s a matter of degree, Dave – and in ANY objective comparison, the Republicans are found wanting.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    This article seems a bit desperate. Yes, Grayson is a blowhard.

    So are at least half of the GOP members in the House.

    You don’t have to look far to find loony and/or despicable video of say, Michelle Bachmann, Virginia Fox, Devin Nunes, Steve King on the House floor saying things that no educated person should ever be caught saying in public.

    Their speeches have no relation to verifiable facts or reasonable argument — it’s all about rhetoric and effect and playing to the base. And it is taking our politics to new lows nearly every week.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Forgot to include Todd Tiahrt. He’s a real gem.

    And Ken Cuccinelli, attorney general of Virginia. Bet you’re proud of him too. Such a great guy standing up against those homos and all. We’re so threatening, ya know.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    and Dave –

    When I listed those numbers, those ratios in comment #2 above, do you really think I’m pulling those numbers out of the air? I think you know those aren’t idle boasts.

    But that begs the question – if both parties are equally corrupt, then WHY such a disparity in the numbers? The answer’s simpler than you might think – it’s the personality of the party. I think you must agree that generally speaking, the Republican and Democratic parties both tend to attract people of certain personalities…

    …and the numbers (particularly of those indicted and/or convicted) strongly indicate that the Republican party tends to attract those who are less concerned about following ethics and laws. You yourself must agree that Republicans are much more likely than Democrats to hold the phrase “political correctness” in utter contempt…and whatever you might think, this DOES translate on some level a certain contempt for the law.

    I’m sorry, Dave, but the numbers are not on your side.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “What bothers me a lot more than a couple of dunderheaded Democrats is the vitriolic tone in the voices of Hare’s interlocutors.”

    Exactly. Who the fuck are they, excuse my French? And why should anyone be subjected to that, whoever they are?

    Not a peep from Dave, though. But perhaps it’s excusable because a Democrat was on the firing line.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    And although Mr. Grayson is easy to criticize, he actually plays his questionable game rather well — providing a Dem equivalent to Bachmann, anything for a sound bite.

    But in addition, have you really listened to that urologist in Florida? Talk about an underinformed blowhard. He has virtually no idea what he is talking about, makes utterly false claims about the health care bill, and can’t even formulate an answer when an interviewer challenges his lack of knowledge.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    A weak attempt to distract from Glenn’s article

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Whoever was questioning Hare they were obviously hostile from the get go. Hare’s comments about the Constitution were, well Hare brained, but the agressive hostility of those interrogating him was extremely provocative which obviously put him very much on the defensive. He answered rather thoughtlessly, but was both rattled and angry.

    As is always the case with Nalle, he loves to extrapolate or suggest that one or two instances of bad behaviour or stupidity is indicative the same is true of all. I suppose he thinks he’s being subtle and clever. Rather, he is obvious and obnoxious.

    I know Grayson is a news hog. He loves the camera. His accusations against the doctor were mis-directed, but handy is on the money about him. The good doctor is obviously taking the opportunity to get his own 15 minutes. He doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

    B

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    He doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

    And that’s a disturbing quality in a urologist.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    It certainly is.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Exactly. Who the fuck are they, excuse my French? And why should anyone be subjected to that, whoever they are?

    For Christ’s sake. They’re CONSTITUENTS and they are understandably angry and they deserve answers to their questions and they deserve representatives who respect them and respect the Constitution.

    I put Grayson and Hare up here as examples of why people are so angry at the Democrats and the government right now. I could have put up Reid and Pelosi but that would have been too predictable. This cancer infects their party from the lowest to the highest.

    And despite the numbers which Glenn pulls out of his ass, there’s no evidence suggesting greater corruption among Republicans than among Democrats. In fact, the last 6 Congressmen actually convicted of crimes have been Democrats.

    Why he keeps trying to make this about corruption I don’t know, since it’s a losing argument for him, but it’s not about corruption or criminality. It’s about arrogance and disregard for the people and the Constitution.

    Dave

  • STM

    “Excuse my French”.

    My God, there they are again – The French!!!

    Sacre bleu … that pack of cheese-eatin’, universal-healthcare lovin’, socialist garlic gobblers.

    I mean, what can America learn from them when it comes to running a popular, world-beating, (free) healthcare system??

    Allez, America …

  • cannonshop

    Glenn, Dave, don’t fight yet, I haven’t popped the popcorn, and I don’t have the easy-chair set up to watch!!

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “They’re CONSTITUENTS and they are understandably angry . . .”

    Am I supposed to read this as an understatement?

  • Baronius

    Come on, Dave, how could you not include Hank Johnson, the Democratic congressman who’s worried that Guam is too long and narrow and it might capsize?

  • zingzing

    “Grayson reached the pinacle of nuttiness and bigotry this past week when he accused a Florida doctor of racism because he doesn’t want to serve voters who supported Obamacare. He has also recently called a lobbyist a “whore,” called Dick Cheney a “vampire” and called Republicans “knuckle dragging neanderthals.”

    well, i’d say that the doctor is the pinnacle of nuttiness. as a doctor, you shouldn’t care about your patients’ politics. it’s bad form. even doctors fighting in war will try to help an enemy combatant. that doctor is a creep. and lobbyists are whores, and cheney is a vampire and republicans are…

    baronius: “Come on, Dave, how could you not include Hank Johnson, the Democratic congressman who’s worried that Guam is too long and narrow and it might capsize?”

    because that’s obviously not what he was trying to say. it just came out funny. very funny. but obviously not literal.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    So…Dave!

    I just spent an hour or so doing the numbers since you said I “pulled them out of my ass”. It turns out I am NOT correct when I said the Republicans have twice as many convicted/indicted as the Democrats…but I WAS close enough for my statement to stand that, generally speaking, the Republican party IS more corrupt than the Democratic party. Furthermore, the types of crimes involved are especially pertinent to our dispute.

    Here’s the breakdown concerning presidents, vice presidents, congresspersons, and high political appointees since Nixon took office:

    Nixon:
    18 Republicans convicted
    0 Democrats convicted

    Ford:
    2 Republicans convicted
    3 Democrats convicted, 2 Democrats indicted/resigned

    Carter:
    0 Republicans convicted
    2 Democrats convicted

    Reagan:
    20 Republicans convicted
    13 Democrats convicted, 3 Democrats indicted/resigned

    Bush 41:
    2 Republicans convicted
    1 Democrat convicted.

    ======note that it was in 1994 that the Republicans began holding a majority in Congress, and held that majority for 12 years until 2006=======

    Clinton:
    4 Republicans convicted
    10 Democrats convicted, 1 Democrat indicted/resigned

    Bush 43:
    23 Republicans convicted, 23 Republicans indicted/resigned
    5 Democrats convicted, 2 Democrats indicted/resigned

    Obama:
    1 Republican indicted/resigned
    1 Democrat convicted, I Democrat indicted/resigned

    Totals:
    51 Republicans convicted, 24 indicted/resigned
    35 Democrats convicted, 9 indicted/resigned

    Furthermore, browse through the reference at the top of this comment and look at the seriousness of the crimes involved. Almost without exception, the Democrats’ crimes involved money or (in only a few cases) sex. The Republicans’ crimes involved money and sex to be sure, but ALSO power – Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Reagan-era ‘sewergate’, the Bush 43 ‘lawyergate’, Iraq-gate, Plame-gate, and other ‘gates’. NOT ONE of the scandals involving Democrats approached the sheer scale or seriousness of Watergate, Iran-Contra, or ‘lawyergate’.

    The data show that power – and the preservation thereof – are a greater draw to the Republican mind than to the Democratic mind. This would also explain why the Republicans cry again and again about the Democrats and voter fraud in every election, even though there is NO evidence of such a conspiracy by Democrats OR their supporters, whereas tens of thousands of registered voters were wrongly disenfranchised by voter caging over the last two presidential elections – and ALL cases of voter caging have been by the Republican party, and ALL were used against majority-Democratic or majority African-American districts! (hence my thousand-to-one challenge to you that you cannot answer)

    Why? Power, and the preservation thereof.

    Okay, Dave – MY CONTENTION STANDS. I’ve presented hard proof that generally speaking, Republicans ARE more corrupt than Democrats, and if I really need to, I can dig up more. I’ve shown you mine…now show me YOURS!

  • John Wilson

    Alan Grayson is pretty good: he’s done an excellent job for his Florida constituents and took a principled stand on healthcare reform.

    Here’s some of his background from his congressional website:

    ” His parents were teachers. They made great sacrifices, to make sure that Alan received the best education.

    Alan was a sick child. His mother took him to the hospital four times a week, for treatment. Without health coverage, he would not be alive today. He remembers that.

    Alan rode the subway to school each day, and he worked hard. He was the valedictorian of his junior high school. By passing a test, he was admitted to an exclusive public high school. In high school, he achieved the highest test score among almost 50,000 students who took the test. Harvard College saw something in him, and admitted him.

    For Alan, life at Harvard wasn’t easy. Alan cleaned toilets, and worked as a night watchman. Yet he earned a bachelor’s degree in only three years, with high honors, and he was Phi Beta Kappa. Alan graduated from Harvard in the top two percent of his class.


    Alan’s master’s thesis was on the important subject of gerontology – how to improve the health of older people. Alan called for the creation of an organization to support research on the health of seniors. Shortly after he left school, Alan formed such an organization: the Alliance for Aging Research. Alan served as an officer of the Alliance for 22 years. Alan’s Alliance has increased federal support for aging research by 500%, leading to breakthroughs in the treatment of blindness, weak bones, Alzheimer’s disease, and other afflictions of the elderly. The motto of the Alliance is “Living to 100 – and Loving It.”

    Wall Street firms recruited Alan heavily when he graduated from Harvard Law School, but Alan chose to be a judge’s assistant instead. For two years, he worked with such luminaries as Judge (now Justice) Ginsburg, Judge (now Justice) Scalia, Judge Mikva, Judge Bork, and others. …

    From the beginning of his legal career, Alan gravitated toward the important question of how the Government spends the taxpayers’ money. He mastered the incredibly complex rules regarding government contracting, and represented hundreds of clients in that field.

    In the early 1990s, Alan took leave from the practice of law, and started a business. Alan was the first President of IDT Corp., a telecom/internet company. The business started on the second floor of a funeral home. It grew to be a $2 billion-a-year business, on the Fortune 1000 list, and traded on the New York Stock Exchange. In short, Alan has lived the American Dream, starting a successful business and seeing it grow.

    Later, Alan decided to leave that business, and return to the practice of law. Alan and his wife also decided to move to Orlando, and raise a family. …

    After Alan went back to the field of government contracts law, he began to represent whistleblowers, who witnessed fraud against the Government. Alan brought more and more False Claims Act cases on behalf of those whistleblowers, against fraudulent contractors. After the war in Iraq began, Alan was the only attorney who was willing to pursue such cases, in the face of hostility from the Bush Administration. Congress called on Alan four times to testify about contractor fraud in Iraq. Taxpayers Against Fraud named Alan Grayson its Lawyer of the Year. Public Justice also recognized Alan for his work. The Wall St. Journal lauded Alan, saying that he was “waging a one-man war against contractor fraud in Iraq.” And Vanity Fair published an 11-page profile.

    Alan’s mammoth struggle against contractor fraud has been applauded by liberals and conservatives alike….

  • Mark Schannon

    These two come off pretty good compared to Palin, Bachman, Cheeney, the Republican leadership, the Foxettes, Beckster, et al.

    They’re not the most articulate artichokes in the forest, but they’re not mean spirited, lying, manipulative thugs. And being a constituent doesn’t give one the right to be rude, abusive, and disrespectful.

    If this is the best you can do, Dave, I’m feeling pretty good about donkeys vs. pachyderms.

    In Jameson Veritas

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Thanks for the dossier, John. It surely cuts a different picture of Grayson than the one represented by Dave Nalle’s one-sided video.

    I sure would have liked to get a glimpse of his interlocutors.

  • Baronius

    Mark, I didn’t think that you considered yourself to be in either political camp. (I could be wrong.) But don’t you think that the willingness to call a spade a spade, even in your own party, is a necessity for civilized discussion? Grayson and Hare made fools of themselves.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    And you don’t almost every other time you post?

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    Like I keep telling Dave, it’s a matter of degree. For every Dem that you point out that makes inflammatory statements, I’ll point out a minimum of FIVE Republicans who do…most of whom’s statements are MORE inflammatory than Grayson’s.

    Care to take me up on this challenge?

    Like I keep saying, it’s a matter of degree…and you’ve got FAR more fire-breathers on your side of the aisle.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    ” His parents were teachers. They made great sacrifices, to make sure that Alan received the best education.

    Read more: http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/voices-of-idiocy-from-the-left/#ixzz0kYklrwvf

    Wow, just like Sarah Palin. Does that mean that Grayson and Palin are both equally good in your eyes, JW?

    Dave

  • Baronius

    No way, Glenn. I’ve been in these conversations before with you. You interpret the facts in one way, and ignore opposing evidence and counter arguments. Then you gloat that no one can defeat your facts. I guess it’s a sign of my pettiness that your gloating bothers me, but it’s also frustration that I just can’t get through to you. I think you’re honestly good-willed. At some point, though, arguments just aren’t worth it from a time management standpoint.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    Perhaps your viewpoint is the result of finding out that hard facts are hard to argue with.

    “Facts are stubborn things.” Ronald Reagan said that.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    And Baronius –

    Many times Dave or Clavos have presented opposing evidence…and most times I’ve either pointed out how their opposing evidence isn’t what they think it is, or how it proves my case and not theirs.

    And here’s proof:

    Do you remember when I pointed out the statistical FACT that red states generally have lower education rates, higher teenage pregnancy rates, higher crime rates, lower pay rates, et cetera? My conclusion at the time was that it was because of conservative policies. Dave and Clavos (and Roger) pointed out errors not in my facts, but in my premise, and I listened to them and agreed that I was wrong. It turns out that the lower standard of living in red states isn’t because of the conservative policies, but because of the generally rural nature of those states. The conservative politics of those states, then, are ALSO because of the rural nature of those states.

    So in other words, Baronius, you’re FLAT WRONG. I’ve proven time and time again that I’ve got no problem with agreeing with my opponent when I’m wrong.

    Can you say the same? Can you? Perhaps, but I haven’t seen it.

    I am wrong sometimes…but thanks to my desire to be able to prove what I say (and the BC conservatives’ tendency to not be able to back up what they say with credible references), I’m not often wrong. Facts are indeed stubborn things.

  • Baronius

    Glenn, that’s hilarious. As usual, you’ve drawn a bad conclusion, and you’re gloating over your powerful, powerful facts.

    I’m out.

  • Mark Schannon

    Baronius, I’m a reluctant Democrat & a confused liberal…if that helps. Lord knows many Democrats are complete and total ignoramuses (thank God for spell check, LOL.) Or crooks. Or worse. And, yes, they should be called out. I just don’t think these two videos were all that bad. Nothing to be proud of…but certainly nowhere near as horrendous as the extreme righties.

    (Baaaaad Roger…and you wonder why Baronius doesn’t listen to you…(although it was a good quip.)

    In Jameson Veritas

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Mark,

    I find Baronius the most enigmatic persona on the political pages of BC. He’s technically correct in almost every single respect; yet when it comes to human sentiment, I find him grossly deficient, almost inhuman.

    It’s this particular disconnect that bugs me to no end and which I’ve been attempting to address from day one. Which is why my retorts to Baronius have been of a biting nature, to make him come out of his skin.

    No animosity intended.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Yes, I recall a discussion about the Catholic church, condoms, and AIDS in Africa. The cold callousness of B’s attitude astonished me.

  • John Wilson

    Does Palin have superlatives comparable to Grayson?

    “In high school, he achieved the highest test score among almost 50,000 students who took the test.

    Harvard College saw something in him, and admitted him.

    he earned a bachelor’s degree in only three years,

    with high honors, and

    he was Phi Beta Kappa.

    Alan graduated from Harvard in the top two percent of his class.

    after he left school, Alan formed such an organization: the Alliance for Aging Research.

    Alan served as an officer of the Alliance for 22 years.

    Alan’s Alliance has increased federal support for aging research by 500%, leading to breakthroughs in the treatment of blindness, weak bones, Alzheimer’s disease, and other afflictions of the elderly.

    Wall Street firms recruited Alan heavily when he graduated from Harvard Law School,

    etc.

  • John Wilson

    Baronius, a person who seldom cites facts, complains:

    “26 – Baronius
    No way, Glenn. I’ve been in these conversations before with you. You interpret the facts in one way, and ignore opposing evidence and counter arguments. Then you gloat that no one can defeat your facts.”

    So, cite some facts.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    J.W. –

    Thanks for the backup!

    If there’s one thing I’ve learned (thanks to Roger N.), it’s that the conservatives can have solid facts presented to them all day long…and they won’t care. Facts – and academic prowess and achievements like those of Alan Grayson and President Obama – mean little to them. Witness the howls of disgust the conservatives raised against Obama’s nomination for Secretary of Energy, Stephen Chu…even though he was a Nobel prize winner in Physics.

    What’s more, look at how Obama tried to reach out to them by accepting 180-odd Republican amendments to the Health Care Reform bill which was itself at heart very similar to what the Republicans themselves proposed as an alternative to ‘Hilllarycare’.

    And now, with the new START treaty signed, they howl about how he’s weakening America’s nuclear posture and making us ‘easy pickings’ for attack…never mind that President Reagan signed the first START treaty and personally stated as his goal the eventual banishment of all nuclear weapons worldwide.

    A neo-con friend of mine once said “It’s all about power”…and to them, that’s precisely it. They care little or none at all how hard we try to compromise with them, or even when we take positions almost identical to those of Republican leadership of the past.

    What they do care about is that we’re in power and they’re not…and they will use any means necessary (that they can get away with) to reverse the situation. That’s why they rage about ‘voter fraud’ by Democrats (with NO evidence of such)…but remain strangely silent about the proven voter suppression tactics they’ve used (voter caging) that have wrongfully disenfranchised tens of thousands of registered voters during the past two presidential elections…and don’t get me started on the electronic voting machines.

    To them, it really truly is all about power…and they are absolutely sure the same applies to liberals. The possibility that most liberals might not care too greatly about power and authority over others…is simply beyond comprehension to them.

    Facts. You care about them and base your decisions on them. They’re important to you, and to me. I’ll still keep tilting at windmills by posting those facts. Not that they’ll care – for to them, facts mean little in the face of dogma. But maybe, just maybe someday one of them will begin to see through the conservative rhetoric and begin a journey away from the Republican party…just as I once did.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    If Americans fall for phony rhetoric and vote accordingly, this will keep happening.

    The fact that many hundreds of thousands can listen to the despicable silliness spewed by Beck and Palin and Bachmann and think they are just wonderful is very disturbing to me. I would seriously doubt the intelligence and maybe the sanity of people who accept this bilge as some sort of higher truth.

  • Baronius

    Wow, Handy, I guess this whole “elevating America’s discourse” thing you’re on is selective.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Glenn, it’s not the facts which are in dispute most of the time, but what the facts signify, and that is something which people can genuinely and legitimately disagree on.

    Dave

  • Baronius

    Come on, Dave, don’t let Glenn get a free pass on his “facts” like the Republican outcry about the Chu nomination.

    I mean, sure, the GOP was angry about the tax cheats and all, but what really united the party was opposition to Stephen Chu. That’s the way I remember it. Sure, the Senate approved his nomination unanimously, but you could tell they were outraged. And I guess they were mostly upset at his credentials, not his stand on global warming.

    Dang it, I told myself I wouldn’t bother fact-checking Glenn, and there I go. At least I don’t have to check his second paragraph, because it doesn’t make any sense: the President doesn’t accept amendments to bills, and what Republican amendments Congress okayed were mostly technical, not substantive.

    Hey, kids, you can play at home! What’s wrong with Glenn’s third paragraph? I’ll give you a hint – it has to do with comparing Reagan and Obama on nuclear weapons while overlooking their stands on missile defense. (And don’t tell me you still believe that AEGIS is the best way to defend against a land-based attack, Glenn.)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “. . .while overlooking their stands on missile defense.”

    What was the essential difference between the two stands?