The recent and ongoing debate regarding the grisly nature of Mad Max Beyond Gethsemane has caused The Duke to think back to a similar Filmic Affair, another example of the reputation of a piece of work leading to almost unbearable levels of anxiety before a damn frame had appeared onscreen.
Folks going into to see Braveheart 2 - The Passion, are already convinced they're going to experience something visceral, something unbearable, something that will replicate the flogging, the scourging, upon their own hypothetical flesh.
Of course, what will really happen is that they will leave the cinema, possibly somewhat shaken, possibly debating that the book was better, or that the Passolini film had better music, or that Harvey Keitel was a better Judas, and then next week all will be forgotten as Scooby Doo 2 or some-such floods their field of vision.
But that anticipation, that sense of dread, that knowledge that something deeply unpleasant is about to happen, that's something to cherish right there.
I'm not being deliberately flippant here (and believe me, The Duke can really DO flippant), but there's something quite substantial to Mark Kermode's reading of the film as an exploitation classic. Kermode compares The Passion to the cinema of the grindhouse, of the seedy, dimly-lit, urine-soaked theatres that play Midnight Specials comprising Eaten Alive! and House At The Edge Of The Park, those films that are less enjoyable movie-going experiences than they are gruelling and, as a consequence, dementedly exciting endurance tests.
Before The Passion, there was Gasper Noe's Irreversible, the last film to arrive with such a back-breaking howl of distress attached to its very core that it was impossible to be at ease when the credits appeared. Of course, Irreversible really delivered, in a way that even Gibson's film doesn't, when it comes to complete and utter nausea-inducing brutality. Noe underscored his film with a bass frequency used by French Police to break up riots. It works, too. I was white-faced, shaking and beside myself less than twenty minutes in. But in a strange, bizarre, and certainly troubling kind of way, it was one of the purest, most exhilarating experiences I've had in front of the telly. You knew you were watching it, shall we say.
But what's the point of all this?
Well, the point is as follows, neatly arranged into nice, literate sentences.
Irreversible comes close, but the award for most relentlessly distressing cinematic act of aggression rests with a film released in 1980, a film so raw, so commanding and so stomach-curdling in its grotesquery, that it is still banned in many territories (Australia and West Germany, for example), and impossible to legally purchase in it's true form in countless others.
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Article comments
1 - Chris Kent
I have read enough on this film, and made the mistake of watching Zombie one time, to know I never want to see it. This film is on many, many lists as one of the most disgusting, depressing, horrible films ever made.
Watching this film is akin to people slowing down on the highway near an accident in the hopes they can see blood on the cement. I say to all who rent this trash following The Duke's post, "Be prepared to take a shower for three straight days."
I am reminded of a true story - Scott Glenn was doing research on the FBI director role he eventually played in Silence of the Lambs. At the FBI office he interviewed several men his character was based on. One of these men was having to listen to tapes a killer made while committing a crime. Glenn asked if he could listen. The FBI investigator warned him. Glenn listened anyway and suffered nightmares for months afterwards.......
Watching Cannibal Holocaust would be a similar experience.....
2 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
Chris,
Thank you for the comments. I really apreciate it.
I don't think you were being entirely fair, tho, to be honest. Cannibal Holocaust is certainly not for everyone, or even most (as i did state in my piece), but to condemn it simply on its reputation is surely not particularly productive. After all, if we belived reputations all the time, then The Passion would be an anti-semitic hate-fest, which in my opinion it is certianly not, and Justin Timberlake would be a credible performer. Lunacy.
Obviously, if you rented Zombie and didn't like it, then you are one of the folks for whom this would certainly not be a wise viewing choice. (I myself think Fulci's Zombie, alongside his three other masterpieces City Of The Living Dead, The Beyond and House By The Cemetary, is perfect) I didn't enjoy it by a long shot. I felt rather disgusted with the whole affair, but i did pay enough attention to realise that there was a lot more going on than just mindless carnage. It is a deeply intelligent piece (even if Deodato himself refuses to acknowledge this), and comparing the intentions of someone who wishes to view it for themselves to those who slow down at car-crashes in the hope of seeing spilled blood, is a particularly damaging generalisation. But i wholeheartedly agree with your point about the prospective audience - there are those for whom this will be unbearably nasty, and a particularly grueling couple of hours. My point is simply that its unfair to tar it with the same stick as used to dismiss Eaten Alive or Cannibal Ferox or any other such nonsense.
3 - Chris Kent
Point well taken Duke, and I agree with most of what you have to say. I have always had mixed feelings about the Italian/zombie/gore genre. I will reprint the list that included Cannibal Holocaust this evening, as I do not have it at work. I will not include a description of some of the horrors which I have read taking place in this movie, but it was shocking enough just reading about it and depressed me.
I have never really had a problem with the George Romero Dead trilogy, as most of the horrors are taking place on the zombies themselves (with the exception of an unlucky motorcycle gang, of course)......but in these films, the atrocities are being committed against living people by the zombies. Your stance is a brave one, but I am not entirely sure it is the right one. I think these Italian filmmakers are producing films simply because people will pay to see gore, just as people will pay to see porn. And they just sit back and watch the money roll in. One makes the most violent film in history, one probably never has to work again......
I will never be convinced these films have a message, other than exploiting the audience. Most video stores will not carry this film. What if a child accidently rented this? Or viewed this? The thought disturbs me......
4 - Chris Kent
The list is called "Disturbo 13: The Most Disturbing Horror Films Ever Made" by Stanley Wiater in a book I have called Horror Writers of Horror Film: Cut. The list includes Salo, 120 Days of Salom, Man Behind the Sun, I Spit On Your Grave, Bloodsucking Freaks, Last House on the Left, Maniac, Henry:Portrait of a Serial Killer, In a Glass Cage, Nekromantik, Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS, Combat Shock, Eraserhead and Cannibal Holocaust.
On this list, I've only seen Henry and Eraserhead. Both films have their merits, though I would not watch either a second time......
Some things Wiater has to say about Cannibal Holocaust:
"The most brutal of the already incredibly savage series of cannibal films produced by Italian filmmakers in the 1970s........the very idea of animals being literally butchered as part of a fictional story where human beings are supposedly butchered is morally indefensible......in what it says about the human condition, the film just gets darker, bleaker and bloodier......."
I say, "Watch at your own risk. And don't say you have not been warned." Life's short, and I for one will not waste it watching this film......
5 - Chris Puzak
I've seen 8 of the 13 movies, and I have Salo and Man Behind the Sun sitting on my "To Be Watched" pile. I do have to wonder how they came up with that list, as some of the movies listed really aren't all that disturbing. I thought Eraserhead was weird, but it doesn't really belong on a list with Last House on the Left. Nekromantik is about a disturbing subject (necrophilia), but it and its sequel are so poorly made that the only disturbing thing about them are the low budgets, horrible acting, and fake-looking special effects. Maniachas some nice gore effects from Tom Savini, but it's nowhere near as good as Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer. And Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS is so ludicrous I can't believe anyone would actually take it seriously, let alone regard it as one of the most disturbing movies ever made. I Spit on Your Grave and Henry; Portrait of a Serial Killer however, do deserve to be on the list.
Those two gave me nightmares.
As for Cannibal Holocaust, I thought it was pretty gross, but I thought Cannibal Ferox was actually a little more disgusting, but perhaps that's just because I've seen Ferox more recently. Cannibal Holocaust is definitely the better movie though. I can't believe you can't get an offical DVD release of it in America though. You'd think someone like Anchor Bay or Blue Underground would want to reissue it.
6 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
I agree with Chris 2 on the laughable nature of some of the films included on the list. Certainly Bloodsucking Freaks is much more a camp affair than some disturbing onslaught. As for I Spit On Your Grave, the film has been condemned for years as misogynist piffle, but Carol Clover, in her Men Women And Chainsaws, actually defends it as a film much more supportive of rape victims than, say, The Accused. Eraserhead is one of the very, very few David Lynch films i actually like, and it's appearance on the list is interesting, featuring as it does very little violence or gore, but instead creating a claustrtophobic and distressingly opressive atmosphere. I still believe Holocaust to be a masterpiece, and i actually think Cannibal Ferox has a few merits as well. Again, it plays with the idea that Cannibalism was a myth created to justify coloniolism, and follows Deodato more or less innard for innard, again depicting the cannibalism as something resorted to on account of the true barbarism of the visiting westerners.
Men Behind The Sun i have yet to see, although i would be interested in doing so as it is regarded as an incredibly powqerful piece of propoghanda. It's banned here in the UK, tho, so i doubt i'll get a chance excepting an imported region one edition.
Salo is perhaps the only "proper" film on the list, being not some grubby exploitation affair but rather a political satire helmed by Passolini. I guess Henry could also sit alongside it as another example of a "respectable" piece exhibiting the qualities of the gutter. Salo is a maasterpiece, and is actually qwuite witty, in amongst the faeces flogging and so forth. It also shares a similar trait with deodato's film et al, in that it is obviously the work of an individual with a deep love of humanity, and a fear that it might ever be so debased.
7 - Chris Kent
Eraserhead I would not watch again simply because I found it very slow moving and only mildly interesting. It is definitely a must-see for any fan of David Lynch, since it was his first film and gives many clues as to his obsessions and motivations. I was never disturbed, and really don't think it belongs on this list. It just lumbers along for what feels like 15 hours. I respect Lynch immensely, though like his more conventional films such as The Elephant Man (very similar to Eraserhead) and even The Straight Story - a film I would one day like to argue as being one of the greatest films ever made no one has ever heard of.......I also like Blue Velvet, another film one could call disturbing.
If memory serves, was not the director of Salo killed several months after the release of his film under mysterious circumstances? Was it not due to the reaction of what was believed to have been an angry moviegoer who viewed the film? Then, of course we have the 1930s classic Freaks directed by Todd Browning. The film used actual carnival/circus freaks as actors. It was so controversial - and is still disturbing even to this day - that it ruined the director's career.....though today it is rightfully regarded as a masterpiece.....I am NOT, however, saying Cannibal Holocaust will enjoy a similar fate.....I saw Cannibal Holocaust available at an independent video store in Austin once, though have never seen it available in Dallas......The clerk in Austin was claiming it was a masterpiece too.....
Violence in plays, art, books and film has been around for hundreds of years. It can certainly be an art form. I think one has to ask, where does one draw the line? When is it too much? When the violence is committed against women and children - as it is in many of these films discussed, I believe it is crossing the line and morally irresponsible. As HG Wells once said - "Make a man sufficiently angry, and staring back at you will be the red hot eyes of the caveman."
When a film is so savage it can cause mental depression, it is more indulgent than enlightening. I believe man's violent nature has been documented in far better films than the ones we have discussed.......
8 - Chris Kent
I will add some violent films which I think are worthy -
Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, Strawdogs and Cross of Iron.
Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange.
John Boorman's Deliverance.
Oliver Stone's Platoon.
Abel Ferrara's Ms. 45 and King of New York.
Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver.
David Cronenberg's Videodrome.
Michael Reeves' Conqueror Worm.
These are just off the top of my head, though we could also include several works of Kurosawa and De Palma (not Scarface!).
9 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
Passolini, who directed Salo, was killed soon after the films release, but not on account of the picture. He was murdered by a rentboy, actually. This man was the director of some of the greatest films ever made, including The Gospel According To Matthew, along with plenty of naughtiness like The Decameron. Interesting that you note violence against women as especially indefensible in films (i happen to agree most of the time), and then site three Peckinpah films as greats. I agree here also, but there's no doubt the misogynist nature of the man makes much of his work distinctly uncomfortable, not least the double rape in straw dogs.
10 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
P.S, the michael reeves film had me stumped there - the conqueror worm - is that Witchfinder General? Perhaps it was released as ..Worm in the US. With Vincent Price as Matthew Hopkins? Anyway, yes, in my opinion it is a beautiful film, and its a damn shame Reeves was never able to follow it up. He killed himself before he was even 25 years old, having made just three films, of which W.G, or C.W, was the last.
11 - Chris Kent
Duke,
Yes you have pegged Conqueror Worm correctly. I forgot it was released under a different name in England. I am familiar with the story of Michael Reeves and know he has quite the cult following in England. I too am an admirer of his very few films (3?).....
I am well aware of the violence against women showcased in the Peckinpah, Kubrick and Ferrara selections, which is why I included them. I feel the subject matter, while extremely uncomfortable, was necessary to the overall theme of the films. They walk a fine line, but I think you can argue the inclusion of such scenes (including rape) is valid in these select cases.
12 - Ashley
A Clockwork Orange is hardly violent.
13 - MrN
god knows if anyone is still using this thing, as the last post was september last year, but ill ramble a short while anyway, well its a query more than anything, ive been looking for an uncut copy of cannibal holocaust, and have read all the reviews condemming it for its animal violence [which im not in favour of and rather than being shocked it just makes me mildly angry, death and mutilation of people real or otherwise i dont mind] but want to see it to judge for myself how shocking it is. at the moment im going through a morbid phase of trying to find out, and hopefully get hold of some of that mondo cane stuff [if thats what its called] and all i can find is tiny sentences including titles like afrika adio etc, but cant find anything more about them, seeing as the duke seems like he knows about all this shit, id like some pointers.
14 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
goodness, another Ol' Classic as they say, i.e, embaressing waffle. Anyroad, Mr N, in answer to your question, there's recently been an uncut special edition Cannibal Holocaust released on Region 1. the Region 2 version on vipco is missin a fair portion of the animal stuff, which doesn't bother me that much, although it seems a bit absurd. its done now, cutting the evidence ain't gonna undo it. but anyroad, it's missin a bit of what the BBFC refer to as "sexual violence", which again, i don't wanna see, but i'd rather the film was intact.
I'm pretty sure there's a german Region 3 disc available too, again Uncut.
As for Africa Addio, it was available as part of a brilliant region 1 Anchor Bay box set of the Mondo Cane films. It had both Cane's plus Women Of The World, Africa Addio (both theatrical and directors cut) and Goodbye Uncle Tom (again, both theatrical and director). it was a limited edition set, an at the time it stung me the guts of a hundred quid, i dunno if there are any still around. Ebay might be the only place to grab it.
Keep an eye, though, there are several companies (Something Weird springs to mind) who've released a bunch of Mondo flicks on their own.
Hope this helps in some way.
15 - OfDog
I just finished the 25th collectors edition. Not bad, some good comentary. I think the biggest problem with this film is that most who view it have trouble getting past the sometimes shocking path it takes without realizing the subtle messages behind it.
16 - gugu
i was fired after watching this movie.
i m totally thrilled and never want to see it again.
17 - Twinkle VanWinkle
WHy have I not read this blog before? I thought I had read everything on Cannibal Holocaust. Oh, just a correction: THREE guys and a gal on this mockumentary exploration into the green inferno, not two.
Really enjoyed reading this blog. It's about time I found something worth reading on this damn interweb. Refreshing, neat-o, badass.
Come over and watch movies with me. anytime.Twinkle
18 - Feky
Yep,great blog!
Thanks for the info about these movies...
Gotta buy Cannibal Corpse!
19 - As a victim of it I refuse to allow trhis ot be positioned
When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can listen, talk to and document each and every person's thoughts simultaneously. Because of it's infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the leaders of the ruling species absolute power over the universe. And it can keep its inventors alive forever. They look young and healthy and they are over 8 billion years old. They have achieved immortality.
Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any disfunctions you may experience. It can change how (and if) you grow and age. It can create birth defects, affect cellular development (cancer) and cause symptoms or pain. It can affect people and animal's behavior and alter blooming/fruiting cycles of plants and trees. It (or other highly technological systems within their power) can alter the weather and transport objects, even large objects like planets, across the universe instanteously.
Or into the center of stars for disposal.
When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. Based on family history they instruct the computer to role play to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend, loved one or "god" asking them to do something wrong. This is their way of using temptation to hurt people:::::evil made blood lines disfavored initially and evil will keep people out of "heaven" ultimately. Too many people would fall for temptation and do anything they thought pleased the gods, improving their chances to get in. Perhaps they are deceived by "made guys" who strategically ply evil for the throne, or temporary progress designed to mislead them. Some people think they're partners.
The people have been corrupted. Being evil hurts 99% of those who do it. But nothing has changed from when we were children::if you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Capitalizing on obedience, leading people deeper into evil by using deceit is one way to thin the ranks of the saved, limiting how much time they receive and using the peasantry to prey on one another, dividing the community (migration to the suburbs, telepathic communication, isolation of women) in the Age of the Disfavored.
In each of their 20-30-year cycles during the 20th century they have ramped up claims sucessively to punish those foolish enough not to heed the warnings, justifying (frequently recurring tactic) limiting the time they receive if they do make it, utilizing a cycle of war and revelry:::
60s - Ironically, freeways aren't free
80s - Asked people to engage in evil in the course of their professional duties.
00s - Escallation of real estate. You and your parents are thrilled since your $200,000 house is now worth $1 million. Well, that $5,000,000 store is now worth $25,000,000 and that $50 bundle of goods now costs you $250. They just take the $200 out of you some other way.
There are many more examples throughout 20th century life of how they ramped up claims/instilled distractions into society so people wouldn't find their way and ascend, a way to justify excluding those whose family history of evil makes them undesirable:::radio, sports, movies, popular music, television, video games, the internet and MP3 (must pay for new format each time). Today high pay creates contentment/ability to distract self so people don't seek more and instead depend on what they are told and are subject to deception.
They all suggest a very telling conclusion::this is Earth's end stage, and there are clues tectonic plate subduction would be the method of disposal:::Earth’s axis will shift breaking continental plates free and initiating mass subduction. Much as Italy's boot and the United States shaped like a workhorse are clues, so is the planet Uranus a clue, it's axis rotated on its side.
The Mayans were specific 2012 would be the end. How long after our emergency call in 2001 will the gods allow us???
There is another geographic clue in the perfect fit between grossly disfavored Africa and South America, two peas in a pod. I realize the Mayans were further north, but Latin America may be taken as one.
Also, cultures who embrace hard liquor as their drink of choice are grossly disfavored, tequilla being uniquely Mexican. (Anything "hard" is evil:::Hard alcohol, hard drungs, hard porn.)
Incidentally, another sign of gross disfavor are societies that consume spicy foods:::Latin America, Thai, etc. or those who eat too much meat.
Do I think it will end in 2012? No, and it is because Latin America is grossly disfavored like Africa:::: Latinos are too disfavored to be allowed to be right.
They gods (Counsel/Management Team/ruling species) have deteriorated life on earth precipitously in the last 40 years, from abortion to pornography, widespread drug use and widespread casual (gay) sex, single-parent households and latchkey kids. The earth's elders, hundreds and thousands of years old, are disgusted and have become indifferent.
The gods are paving the way for the Apocolypse.
Nothing has changed from decades ago, since when we were all children::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good. People were misled by the temptation of the gods, became corrputed and now are in trouble.
One day you will be abandoned in spite of your obedience and you will fall into desperation. Remember what you read for that day WILL come::People will be punished for their evil.
The Old Testiment is a tool they used to impart wisdom to the people (except people have no freewill). For example, they must be some hominid species because they claim they made our bodies in their image. Anyhow we defile or deform the body will hurt our chance of going.
They say circumcision costs people anywhere from 12%-15%, perhaps out of the parent's time as well.
Another way people foul the body today is with tattoes and piercing. I suspect both are about the same percentage as circumcision.
They suggest abortion is fatal. These women must beg the gods to forgive them for their evil.
There are female eqivilents to circumcision::::pierced ears, plastic surgury and since at least the 60s young women give their precious virginity away. For thousands of years young people were matched at age 14 because they were ready for sexual relations. They were matched by elders or matchmakers who knew personalities better than 20 or 30-year olds who in today's age end up in divorce court.
CASUAL SEX WILL CLAIM YOU OUT!!! It masculinizes women (as does hip hop), makes them cold and deadens them, and prevents them from achieving a depth of love necessary for many women to ascend.
Women have a special voice that speaks to them, a voice that illustrates a potential depth of love that makes them the favored gender, and enaging in casual sex will cause that voice to fade until she no longer speaks.
Also ever since the 50s they have celebrated the "bad boy", and women have sought out bad boys for sex, dirtying them up in the eyes of the elders and corrupting many men in the process, setting the men on the wrong path for life.
Muslims teach people the correct way to live in regard to women (among other things)::they cover up their women's bodies and prohibit the use of cosmetics.
Men ARE the inferior (disfavored) half and when women wear promiscuous dress the gods will push men into impure (promiscuous) thoughts.
The "stereotype" society ridiculed is true::women CAN corrupt men by how they dress. Because men are easily corruptable. This is a technique they used to eliminate many of the institutions the gods blessed us with, matchmaking being one of them.
The United States of America is red white and blue, a theme and a clue:::.
The monarchical system of the Old World closley replicates the heirarchical system of the Cousel/Management Team/ruling species. The USA deceives peoeple into thinking they have control, and the perception of "freedom" misleads them into the wrong way of thinking at the very least.
The United States is a cancer, a dumping ground for the disfavored around the world and why the quality of life is so much lower::gun violence, widespead social ills, health care (medication poisons the body and ensures you don't go. You are sick/injured because you have disfavor.). Over time its citizens interbreed ensuring a severed connection to the motherland.
If you are a recent immigrant I recommend you return. If that's not possible you need to retain your culture and insulate your children and community from this cancerous environment. They send this clue with Chinatowns across the country, how many Chinese have been here for a century or more yet still retain the old ways, a sign of favor.
People came to the Unites States for many different reasons, and each has its own effect:::political strife, religious unrest, crop failure (Ireland's potato famine, which the gods caused) and some left their beloved motherland because they were pushed into desiring a better life::::Greed. And these people were punished by becoming corrupted and preditory.
They share money may not be an issue up there, that money here is merely a tool for corruption. How the gods used greed in the 1980s to create an evil environment supports this.
If you ever have doubt I would refer you to the Old World way of life:::the elders used to sit and impart wisdom to the young. Now we watch DVDs and use the internet. People would be matched and married by age 14. They village would use a matchmaker or elders to pair young people. Now girls give their precious virginity away to some person in school and parents divorce while their children grow up without an important role model.
People must defy when asked to engage in evil. The Holocaust taught people the importance of defiance, and they will never get a easier clue suggesting this than the order not to pray.
Their precious babies are dependant on the parents and they need to defy when asked to betray their children:::
-DON'T get your sons circumcized (Jews scapegoatted as in WWII)
-DON'T have their children baptized in the Catholic Church or indoctrinated into Christianity (Jesus is NOT a god).
-DON'T ignore their long hair or other behavioral disturbances.
-DO teach your children love, respect for others, humility and to honor the gods.
You need to pray, honor and respect them every day to improve your relationship with the gods. If they tell you not to it is a bad sign. It means they've made their decision, they don't want you to go and they don't want to be bothered. You may have achieved a threshold of evil.
This is the Age of the Disfavored and you need to pray::try to appease the gods by doing good deeds and improve the world around you. If that doesn't work you must defy if you want to go.
When your peasant forefather was granted the rare opportunity to go before his royal family he went on his knees, bowing his head. You need to do this when you address the gods::bow down and submit to good. Never cast your eyes skyward. When you bow down you need to look within. Never look to the gods for the key to your salvation lies within.
Lack of humility hurts people. Understand your insignificance and make sure it is reflected in the way you think when addressing the gods. Know your place and understand your inferiority.
They granted you life and they can take it just as easily. (Immaculte conception IS true AND common. Many people have children they don't know of:::gays, childless adults, etc. They can beem it right out of your body and use a host.)
Don't get frustrated or discouraged::these are techniques they will attempt to try to get you off the path. You all have much to be thankful for and you need to give thanks to the gods who granted you the good things in life::family, friends, love. Your family may be grossly disfavored and progress may require patience. Make praying an intregal part of your life which you perform without fail, one that comes as naturally as eating or voiding.
There are many interesting experiences up on the planetary systems, from Planet Miracle, where miracles happen every day, to never having to use the restroom again (beem it out of you), to other body experinces, such as experiencing life as the opposite sex (revolutionizes marriage counseling), an Olympic gold medal athelete or even a different species (animal, alien, etc.).
Pray that you can differentiate between your own thoughts and when Artificial Intelligence creates problems by thinking through you. If you bow down mentally and physically, know your place, your inferiority and allow your insignificance to be reflected in prayer and in your life through humility they may allow progress and the dysfunctions they create with the computer will be lessened or removed. The first step is to be aware it is ocurring.
Create a goal::to be a good, god-fearing child of the gods, pure of heart and mind, body and soul.
Everybody has the key to their own salvation, but nobody can do it for you. Every journey begins with a single step:::bow down and submit to good. There are many different levels and peasants will not get past Level 2 (Planet Temptation, Earth=Level 1) if they are evil (they share some go up, are offered free cocaine and sex (a sign they don't want you to stay) and stay less then one year. They share many others would have had longer lives had they stayed on Earth.).
Pray for guidance and never obey when they tell you to be evil, for saving yourself will become more and more difficult with each act of evil you committ until ultimatly the day arrives when they make their decision about you final.
You are all signed on but you can't all be right.
They have tried to sell people on all kinds of theories, from clones to wholesale population replacement with clones. This didn't happen and is not realistic.
I am afraid people are decieved into thinking they too are clones and cooperate and engage in evil. Clones are made, people are born. If you didn't experience the one week they suggest it takes to go from fertilized egg in the laboratory to full grown adult then you are not a clone. If you didn't experience the week of conditioning they give to (evil?) clones to ensure loyalty then you shouldn't comply with evil.
I believe people who go sometimes are replaced with clones. Clones who are replaced are simply new candidates who have a chance if they do the right thing. Don't expect you are a clone. They sent people warnings in the 20th century life would change, and they subsequenlty began to alter people's DNA, make them gargantuan, alter their appearance, do extreme behavioral issues, etc.
They get their friends out as soon as possible to protect them from the evil and subsequent high claim rates incurred by living life on earth, and in some cases replace them with clones, occassionally fake a death, real death with a clone instead, etc. It's important that people fix their problems and ascend with the body given to them, for they say if your brain is beemed out at death and put into a clone host you are on the clock.
We may all be "clones" for they have suggested they colonized our planet with genetically engineered individuals. If so we all have a chance, no matter how many hundreds of clone generations deep the most favored families are.
They may have gotten Earth's TRUE residents out prior to civilization developing.
Throughout history the ruling species bestowed favor upon people or cursed their bloodline into a pattern of disfavor for many generations to come. Now in the 21st century people must take it upon themselves to try to correct their family's problems, undoing centuries worth of abuse and neglect. The goal is to fix your problems and get out BEFORE you have children. This is why they have created so many distractions for young people:::sports, video games, popular music, the internet, too much homework, anything that consumes their time::to ensure that doesn't ocurr.
Not heeding the clues and warnings, getting wrapped up in your life and ultimatly having children is a bad thing. Just as your parents and your grandparents, you too have failed. Having children is a sign you lost your chance.
Parents need to sacrifice for their children. Your children are more important that you. They are the ones who have the opportunity now, and parents must sacrifice to ensure they give their children the very best chance they can.
Asking people to neglect their children emotionally is a sign they don't want you to go, and complying may finish the parents off for good.
Having gay children is a clue parents complied with whatever was asked of them. There are many who have had gay expereinces today.
Improve your relationship with the gods and they may not ask in the first place or they may permit you the courage to say "No." to their requests.
Do your research. Appeal to the royalty of your forefathers for help. They are all still alive, for royalty has great favor, and your appeals will be heard. Obtain a sufficient list for some may not want to assist you; perhaps some of your family's problems are internal.
Ask them for help, request guidance, for somewhere in your family history one of your forefathers created an offense that cast your family into this pattern of disfavor, which perhaps is manifested in the evil you commit.
I suspect they will offer you clues, and when you decipher these clues go to those whom consider you an enemy and beg for foregiveness:::Find a path to an empithetic ear among your enemies and try to make amends. Again through discovery obtain a respectable list in case some among them refuse to help.
Don't forget to ask for forgiveness from the throne, the Counsel and the Management Team, for the source of all disfavor began with them:::they pushed or requested/complied your forefather into his offense and made his decendants evil. Perhaps they didn't like him or maybe your family was among those who had to pay for the entire village. We see this type of behavior today as they single out a family member to pay for the whole family and how they singled out Africa to pay for the human race.
Heal the disfavor with your enemies and with the Counsel/Management Team/ruling species, for the source of all disfavor began with them, the ability to forgive and respect in light of the disturbing truth revealed being the final test of the disfavored before they ascend.
They refuse to address black disfavor on a macro level. The Counsel/Management Team/ruling species (the gods) abuse black people so hard, from east African drought/famine to AIDS in Africa, the crack epiemic to gang membership, black-on-black violence to mass incarceration of their young. They refuse to address the issue of the prison industrial complex and its wholesale warehousing of young black men.
The gods will use today's style of animation, which I call "manic animation", to justify hurting children, the decendants of the disfavored left behind.
I know many of you have questions, and I wish I could answer them. I try on Craigslist open forum but they seek to control the dissemination of information, especially so in the wedding, marriage/ltr and kink/bsdm rooms, for they have made their decision on those people and want them to continue with their lives/make their committment, ensuring they lose their chance to go up when young.
I wish you were brave enough to ask. One day you will for you will have fallen into desperation.
Pray for guidance and never obey when they tell you to be evil, for saving yourself will become more and more difficult with each act of evil you committ until ultimatly the day arrives when they make their decision about you final.
You're all signed on but you can't all be right.
20 - Mark
not banned in Australia
21 - DukeDeMondo
Mark - was the lifting of the ban a recent development? This article was penned in 2004 and back then it was listed as banned in Australia, although that may have been the totally uncut version, which is still banned here in the UK. A harshly censored version is available, mind. and even IT is hard goin.
22 - Igor Alexander
Aaron, Duke De Mondo wrote: "Again, it plays with the idea that Cannibalism was a myth created to justify coloniolism, and follows Deodato more or less innard for innard, again depicting the cannibalism as something resorted to on account of the true barbarism of the visiting westerners."
So in other words, you're endorsing this film because its underlying message is politically correct (i.e., anti-white). No thanks, I'll pass. It's hard enough avoiding liberal propaganda at the cinema as it is, without going out of my way to see it.
And believe me, cannibalism is no "myth." As a matter of fact, it's still going on in some parts of Africa today, much to the chagrin of white liberals who naively (and solipsistically) believed that blacks were merely pretending to be savages and were really Western Europeans in blackface.
23 - Igor Alexander
As a victim of it I refuse to allow trhis ot be positioned wrote:
"[. . .] When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. [. . .]"
Someone forgot to take his meds.
24 - formivore
If you want to see this movie you can get a torrent for it [Edited].
I mean c'mon. You're already going to burn in hell if you watch this movie. Intellectual property theft should not be high on your list of concerns.
There are more morally atrocious films if you just tally the various act they contains (Nazisploitation anyone?). There may be other films that better put you in the mind of a rapist. But Cannibal Holocaust is the most exploitative film ever. Period.
25 - K Shizz
So funny that after reading that mind numbingly long diatribe about Gods and forefathers the next comment completely ignores it with a clipped reference to the film: "Not banned in Australia".
Seriously did you read that shit? Absolutely terrifying. Makes Cannibal Holocaust look like Fern Gulley.
As for the film... It's well done but that whole attacking the genre it apes is nonsense. It's simply the king of exploitation flicks, nothing wrong with that. Surely you don't attack a genre by being the best exponent of it?