TV Review: John From Cincinnati - "His Visit: Day Eight" - Page 5

Alan Moore’s Promethea explored the idea of the Immateria, the place where stories come from. Our minds are like houses, and outside is the vast array of knowledge and ideas we can tap into. Milch has left his house behind and is just channeling a powerful force into the series. Did he know the figures would be in the Avon catalogue when he wrote that first scene? Probably not, but now it comes back and it fits perfectly. It’s like Grant Morrison's The Invisibles — the work itself takes on a power and guides the creator, not the other way around. This show contains in it so much power, it works simultaneously as an intellectual text and a totally raw, in-the-moment experience. I love these characters, I love their world, and I really want to see more. Even if they never come back after the next episode, when it ends and we snap back to our world, they will linger on.

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Patrick Meaney is a filmmaker/reviewer based out of New York. His films are available on RespectFilms.com, and writings at Thoughts on Stuff. His is also the creator of the webseries The Third Age.

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  • 1 - James

    Aug 06, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Thanks so much for writing, I am greatly excited by your words here. I feel very much as you do. I am so grateful for the depth of the show, the depth of each character's emotional lives, and so on. I am excited for day nine and hope we are able to see the relationships of the folks in IB further flower and grow in future seasons. As you make clear, these people have a lot of growing to do before they may be capable of healthy relationships, and it would be so thrilling to see how a greater community awareness manages to strengthen individual bonds and deepen personal awareness. (Communication -> Community -> Common Union)

  • 2 - Savannah

    Aug 06, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    Thanks, Patrick. That was thoughfully, and beautifully, written. You echoed my exact feelings about the show that I've been unable to articulate.

  • 3 - Ayela

    Aug 06, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Patrick, I very much appreciate your perspectives presented here on the wonderful enigma, JFC. I love that you aren't trying to resolve the mysteries so much as explore and illuminate, much like the show itself. Thank you.

  • 4 - JFC Fan

    Aug 07, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    Thank you, I've been unable to explain or even understand why I find the show so compelling your explanation have really helped to enhance my appreciation of the show.

  • 5 - Patrick

    Aug 08, 2007 at 12:41 am

    Thanks for the feedback, it's such a fantastic show, I'm always left with so much to talk about and reflect on, it's been such a wonderful build, I really hope we get the chance to see more of these characters in another season.

  • 6 - Case

    Aug 08, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    I agree with this analysis completely. I’ve read other reviews which seem express a dislike for the show because of the lack of quick and easy answers. That is what I like about JFC. Other would be viewers/fans are offended by the language, and seem to think that since there is 'off-color' language, that equates to a lack of spirituality. In fact I had a long conversation with a friend in which I was trying to explain the irrelevance of words in general. The fact that John repeats everything that others say exemplifies the lack of meaning in what he says; therefore how he says it is also irrelevant. I like this show. I hope it continues...even though I am somewhat dissuaded from watching at time due to the coarseness of the dialogue.

  • 7 - Patrick

    Aug 08, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    John's repetition is far from meaningless. By repeating things, he gives them a new context and forces us to actually consider the meaning of what we say. Plus, as we see Butchie and Kai discuss in this episode, his repetition is actually an attempt to use what he knows of our language to convey the complex ideas he's been sent here to convey. Milch is able to use words better than almost any other writer working today. Yes, there's a lot of profanity, perhaps a bit too much, but that's his style and other than in the pilot, I don't think it's been gratuitous.

  • 8 - John (Real name, I promise)

    Aug 09, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    Amen brother. Loved it!

  • 9 - Lauren

    Aug 10, 2007 at 10:30 am

    wow, thanks for putting this together. as confusing as the show seems while watching it, the general themes presented are not at all complex, you just have to sift/think through a bit. (watching twice is big help as well.)

    i pray HBO picks it back up. i am really starting to grab a hold of the characters and love this show!

    p.s. how did butchie go from detestable to lovable in 8 episodes? he's my favorite character.

  • 10 - Keith

    Aug 10, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    It seems to be a second coming theme, but John is not Jesus. Shaun is the Christ figure. John is the "John the Baptist" figure. If you disregard Shaun's family, there are almost exactly twelve that have come into the community. If they are apostles, that makes sense. They certainly seem to be expressing a love for Shaun that goes beyond the normal.

    In fact, Barry as Paul makes great sense. Paul was never married and had "a thorn in his side" and is fairly often thought to be gay. He also was the one who had a vision on the road to Damascus.

    Tina, as Shaun's mother, would seem to be the virgin Mary. But Milch is either turning the virgin concept on it's head or combining the virgin Mary with Mary Magdalene in one character.

    At any rate, according to the Bible, Jesus disappears for most of his teen years (and perhaps studies with the Essenes). It would seem Shaun has disappeared around the same age.

    If so, the second season of JFC would probably be Shaun's return as an older Jesus figure. (I would prefer this, because the kid playing Shaun just can't hold his own with the rest of the cast.)

    Maybe in this last episode, someone will deliver John's head? It certainly seems a possibility...

    Another exciting thing about all this... If this is indeed what is going on, AND it is clarified in this last show, THEN, in spite of low numbers this season, I think the idea alone will generate enough interest that HBO will commit to a second season.

    And that's good, because I LOVE THIS SHOW. Great characters. Great writing. Makes me think.

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