Another MTV Video Music Awards show has come and gone and while I think it is better than last year's host-free show, this year's show proves that it isn't the must-see event it once was.…
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Thoughts On The 2005 MTV Video Music Awards - Comments Page 2
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— go to most recent comments26 - Laney
Okay, I agree with a few of the above comments but can I firstly argue that Kelly Clarkson DID deserve her awards!!! It's the VIDEO music awards, with the emphasis on VIDEO and her video for Since U Been Gone does exactly what a video should do, it totally enhances the song. Her performance was awesome, and not just another crowd of over-hyped under-talented rappers bigging each other up on stage. It was fantastic to hear the track performed on a more 'rock'level, with Clarkson's voice amazing as ever. She actually got the crowd involved and although yes, she did fall over, I just watched the post-show interview with her and it was because she stepped on a piece of glass. It was a great end to, let's face it, a very lukewarm affair. Just a note to finish, Diddy (as that's what you're calling yourself now) bit of advice, you will never win any dance off, ever, especailly not against Omarion, cause erm, you can't move at all!!! Anyway, back to praising Kelly Clarkson...
27 - Jay
does anyone know what exactly was said between 50 and Fat Joe..or where to find out what was said? I've heard bits and pieces..trying to catch the whole thing.
28 - Jay
does anyone know what exactly was said between 50 and Fat Joe..or where to find out what was said? I've heard bits and pieces..trying to catch the whole thing. jjmartin11@hotmail.com
29 - p.j
new zealand hard
30 - BA
Fat joe when he went up to present some latino artists made a G rated friendly comment meant to take a stab at 50 cent. He said "I just wanna say how safe i feel tonight with all this police presence courtesy of G-unit" 50 cent after he performs with tony yayo says "fat joe is a pussy. F*%ck fFat joe!" and other stuff like that. mtv didn't show the whole thing.
31 - Felipe
All I have to say is, BRING BRITNEY BACK
32 - John Bill
It would have been better if they just had Shakira dancing the whole show.
33 - Victor Lana
MTV started by playing "Video Killed the Radio Star." I'm old enough to remember, was in love with Martha Quinn, and spent a good deal of the 80s watching the channel.
But I think the truth is clear the way things are going, so I am writing a song:
"MTV Killed the Video Star."
34 - brittany
what was said to fat joe the night of the music awards????????
35 - mike
i think jose is right about fat joe he is better than 50 and all of Gunit fat joe is vet at this shit,how come they didnt say nothing about GAME cuz game will tear shit up and they know it and besides GAME has talked more shit to G-unit than anyone else they shoulda said something about G-unit
GGGG-Unot!!!!!!!!!
36 - Beast
It's about time this Hip-Hop crap gets put on the back burner. I think it really lowers the IQ the more you listen to it. All the Hip Hop heads that I know are pretty stupid. And now, our future leaders are being taught self-defeating and flat out wrong behavior through these animals, who really don't care about their own communities. Why don't Hip Hop artists(if you can call them that) talk about the problems of our country right now. We all need to face this wrongful government together, but no, we have to listen to these criminals/people that can ryhme talk about how much money they have and how much better they are than everyone yet they hardly speak english. Go home Hip Hop, it was cool in the beginning, but now it just shows how sub-human people(nothing to do with color) can become rich. Peace YO
37 - Sam Jack
Beast, you gotta pick the right hip-hop artists. There are mediocre musicians in every genre. Try some Outkast or Gorillaz if you're looking for intelligent hip-hop. There hasn't been a really good political album, I think, since Fear of a Black Planet. American Idiot comes close, but it's not popular for the politics, it's popular for the tunes. The lack of social consciousness is across all musical genres, not just hip-hop.
38 - Leoniceno
I mean a really good -popular- political album, that is.
39 - Beast
OK. I do like Gorrilaz and Outkast.They have great(not too offensive)talent. I am focused on the wannabe gangsters. That is what the children are emulating. It is plain wrong. Tough topic to talk, without someone calling me a racist or something. But I believe I speak with fairness against the culture of Hip Hop, not a certain type of person. These idiots get to have it all, for spreading hate. Its time to start "Dissing" the gangster rap,boycott, and put these low lifes back in the hole they crawled out of. Biggest problem in American culture... Political Correctness. Somethings are true, and need to be said. The gangsta rappers need to be stopped. But what do I know? I'm just some whiteboy.
40 - kelkel
I thought the awards were way too long. Me and my friend covered our eyes and our mouths stayed open in embarrassment for R kellys horrific lipsyncing fiasco. Did you notice when diddy would praise the performances of the night he never once mentioned R kelly? I think Kelly clarkson looked hot as ever and deserved her awards. Whoever has been a fan of hers since AI know that her voice is amazing and I thought she made the closing song of the night energetic and entertaining. I love her album!! the awards were otherwise a bit boring.
41 - t-jay
well i think that 50cent juzz over reacted to what Fat Joe sed, it was juzz a minor joke, and shoudn't have taken that seriously anwyay.. much Respect for g g g g unit!! but they need to chill outta a bit,
and for earlier commet by beast!!, hip hop shoud't b taken seroiusly, it juzz entertainment, if u do?? then ur the one whoz stupid..peace out
42 - Jonny Davison
I am very disapproving of everyone saying that this years show was awful infact, i loved it! r.kellys performance of 'trapped in the closet' had me on the edge of my seat when presumably, part 6 was played, i loved it. also diddy and snoop dogg doing notorious b.i.g's 'juicy' was awesome, well done mtv.
43 - micola
50 cent is a big disgrace to the industry. he thinks becos he made so money hes a king. how can he make such statements. Fat joe just made the world see how stupid 50 cent really is. fat joe dissed him diplomatically. he should have done thesame but rather he reacted like a lil girl. am ashamed of 50 cent. i used to love him but he is a disappointment. if he is that tough why use cops. what fat joe said was true and so fat joe is no pussy. but a stand up guy.
44 - Mon
Diddy as host sucked! Panning to the audience who was so irritated was bad for TV. His stupid dance off was so beyond lame .. the bit of MC Hammer could have been cool, if it was building on something. I thought the reggaeton artists were going to do a song together which would have been cool .. but how did a 1 minute showcase have to do with FAT JOE presenting best hip hop vide? No one was amused and you could tell. I had to flip channels as well ..caught the tail end of R Kelly .. what the?
45 - Mon
To erigo:
if you haven't heard of anyone beside Daddy Yankee - that's fine .. but in Miami that is the music! Nothing else compares .. they can't be in Miami and not have some reference to reggaeton. The population is mainly tropical (Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Cuba ..) and that is the music to the young. The artists that came out are huge! HUGE .. they just weren't showcased properly. Open your eyes to know there are more than just what you hear on your preset station.
46 - Tyler
The awards were terrible and they just keep getting worse and worse every year. Sean Combs turned the event into the fucking Source awards and favored mostly shitty rap acts and junk like what R. Kelly did, that rediculous pathetic dance off thing and the vast majority of the show, which generally revolved around him. This was entire show was laughable, it was boring, and so bad that it was frightening to watch because the VMA awards were always suppose to be about the youth, the non-mainstream, the shit neglected from Grammy's (which kicked the VMA's ass last year) and its turned into the worst of the bunch now, all about money and shitty top forty music. Does Rock music exist on MTV anymore? Hell, the mine as well just do what BET does because thats what it felt like I watched. It was awful. This is suppose to be music.
47 - zuby
fat joe fucked by saying that.is he afraid cos i thought he said he aint gonna talk to 50 cent again.
48 - jay
i can't believe the media (and everyone else) hasn't slammed mariah for lip-synching half of her lousy performance. don't get me wrong, i usually LOVE her - but her "ashlee" move was bad!! i mean, just watch the video of her holding her finger to her ear so that she can hear herself "hit the high note." she's obviously not really singing that... bad, bad judgement on her part.
kelly clarkson was the highlight of the vma's. she deserved her awards (was honestly shocked and humbled by it - very non-LA of her), and although her voice wasn't tiptop during the performance - she rocked it out... and as always, not once lip-synching. take note, mariah carey.
49 - Fernando
The VMA's weren't that bad. The Reggaeton artists should have done a song, Diddy could have been a better host, and 50 Cent should relax, with all respect. Thumbs up for Gorillaz winning Breakthrough video.
50 - amy
I tuned into to watch but being shown on my MTV channel was some sort of Apollo Theater award show. IT SUCKED and I am totally turned off by MTV.
51 - archa
mann i just wanna say when is someone gunna blow 50's dome off fer reel tha dude came into tha game on tha in to deep soundtrack talkin about robbing every1 which is w/e yakno but he said sumtin bout pun 50 doesnt wanna see terror squad ... . 50 dude thinks hes invinvble cuz he he payed mobbdeep to go pop n be on that pussy as team he roles wit..i aint no big fat joe fan i aint into tha side of rap but 50 is running hiphop singe handly n all u white or black dudes buying his shit on contributing 2 tha discruction of hiphop so if your a tru hiphop use your head i kno u can dance to it but damnn u really wanna give 20$$ to someone who raps about what your money got em music is supose to be shit u can feel yakno its on yal fer reel 1
52 - archa
mann i just wanna say when is someone gunna blow 50's dome off fer reel tha dude came into tha game on tha in to deep soundtrack talkin about robbing every1 which is w/e yakno but he said sumtin bout pun 50 doesnt wanna see terror squad ... . 50 dude thinks hes invinvble cuz he he payed mobbdeep to go pop n be on that pussy as team he roles wit..i aint no big fat joe fan i aint into tha side of rap but 50 is ruinning hiphop singe handly n all u white or black dudes buying his shit are contributing 2 tha discruction of hiphop so if your a tru hiphop use your head i kno u can dance to it but damnn u really wanna give 20$$ to someone who raps about what your money got em, music is supose to be shit u can feel yakno its on yal fer reel 1
53 - amy
Hey Archa - no speak english.
54 - Fabian
Yo, I cannot read what you are writing. Please punctuate your sentences. I do agree with what I think you were saying. 50 Cent is mad lame and contradictory. His image is mad phony and it's obvious from that kool-aid is pumping through his arteries. Please take notes kids, Faking will make you look like an ass and so does long run on sentences.
55 - silentreaper
Due to the low ratings that this years show got I assume that the hip/hop era on MTV is slowly but surely coming to an end on the music awards. Although I don't like green day they did or tried to revitalize punk as of now punk is nothing more than grunge boy bands.
56 - 50 cent
you faggots saying oh 50 thinks he's tough etc etc etc... i'd enjoy to see you reherce those comments to his face, he's been shot 9 times you fuckin idiots, if that isn't tough then when is? if he isn't so tough, i'd love to see you rap off, stupid little computer geeks sitting in the mofuckin safety of their parents basement
57 - Jkilla
you faggots saying oh 50 thinks he's tough etc etc etc... i'd enjoy to see you reherce those comments to his face, he's been shot 9 times you fuckin idiots, if that isn't tough then when is? if he isn't so tough, i'd love to see you rap off, stupid little computer geeks sitting in the mofuckin safety of their parents basement
YOU PUSSY GO HOP OF 50 CENT DICK NIKKA HE GOT SHOT 9 TIMES THAS ALL U NO HOW BOUT HIM PUSSY
58 - jkillasafuckingloser
well first off....jkilla...your a piece of shit. and g unit have become the biggest rap group. they have way better lyrics then fat joe does. fat joe maybe has 3 good songs. terror squad is pretty much shit.
59 - Laney
Okay, so all the friggin' hip hop was shite at the VMAs cause that's all there was basically! It's so annoying that amid all the talent in the music industry all they could get were that sorry bunch. Shakira, My Chemical Romance and Kelly Clarkson are the only performers I can even remember cause the rest were all one big blanket of boring and over-hyper rap-crap. I'm sorry, I would normally put Greenday on that list too, but to open the VMAs with Boulevard Of Broken Dreams was a huge misstep. What a way to put us to sleep instantly! American Idiot would have rocked! Please MTV, bring back a bit of diversity into the selection of artists performing at these things, PLEASE!!!!!!!!
60 - disgusted
Gave up on MTV a long time ago - remember when the M actually stood for music? In the beginning you could turn to that channel and 9 times out of 10 they actually were playing MUSIC, rather than all of the idiotic crap they have on there now. I turned on the awards show for a few minutes here and there and was quickly reminded why I never watch this annoying channel anymore. Apparently this is what is important in hip hop:
Proving that your jewelry is more expensive than anyone else's.
Proving that your car is more expensive than anyone else's.
Proving that your house is more expensive than anyone else's.
Proving that you can dance better than anyone else.
Proving that you're badder than anyone else.
Refusing to speak well or write well enough for anyone to be able to understand what the hell you're saying.
Given the above, Sean Coombs was the perfect host.
Hip hop is making it's fans into willing idiots, adequately proven just by reading some of the above comments. Hip hop artists are building their mansions and buying their $200,000 necklaces with YOUR money, and you all go for it like cattle. At least real music will always be available on CD, if not at awards shows such as this.
Note: none of the above has anything to do with skin color.
61 - ring
50cent was crazy
he had performence out of all
and the diss he said fay joe
it was crazy!
and i think 50 cent should diss common
because of what he said during the free style with that other guy
he said hey am not 50cent but it's your birth day
and 50cent should also diss r.kelly
he had the worst performance ever
and am not juss saying that juss because i hate you
all doing is telling the truth
62 - 1nita
im just glad mariah performed. even if she did it different. she was rockin dat dress and hair! and just so all yall know. mariah hasent gone anywhere!. im sirious. she really can still hit that high note. she hits it when she records the song. she just dosent do it live i guss. but she can really sing. she is foucosing on singing more. not the high note that mutch. one day shell do a album with the REAL high note she does. and believe me its high! her voice has lost a little power but to me she sounds the same. the same glorious voice. so just be thankful that she did perform!
63 - honey
for all u racist diddy wasnt trying to shout out all blacks he was just showing dem da respect they deserve plus mtv aint all about white people i dont lisnten to pop or rock whatever but the ones that performed was good any way it dont matter da color long as everybody get they respect plus yall all need to stop hatin on black rappers and singers cause if yall heard people talking about white people music yall be ready to call black people out they name and yall dont want that to happen to yall either of course rappers just doin the thang plus yall dont say nothing when other white people try ro act black
64 - ring
i can belive that green day won! the vedio of the year
it shoud've been snoop dogg or gwen.
anywayz this for all the people that say 50cent sucks
well
let me tell u this
he's the game in the game right now!
he has one of the best rap group
and he made enought good song to call any body out!
he hjas great cd's
and he could've one like 20 lwards that night
but he said he not gonna accept an ward becasue one he went up by an accident so thats way he did'nt get any alwards!
and for the people that said shit about rap
think again
cuz rap is running this music industry!
65 - laney
Rap is running the music industry? If that's true there's only one place for it to go, straight into the ground. Rap has no place at the video music awards for one reason, and one reason only. The videos are all the bloody same!! Here's a checklist; The rapper in question weighed down with a stupid amount of jewelery... check! Many scantily-clad beautiful women hanging off said rapper... check! The rapper's posse arsing around in the background for no other reason than to get exposure... check! Eminem was the only one who changed things up a bit (I say a bit 'cause he's guilty of all of the above) and no, it's not 'cause he's white, I'm not a racist. That's another thing, some of the comments I've read above seem to insinuate that if you say anything negative about black artists that you're a racist! Stop reading stuff into these comments. As soon as rap videos become more than ego-boosting tripe, I'll be more than happy to support them, but for now, as they're little more than porno toned down, I think I'll give them a miss. Oh and by the by, kudos to Kanye, his videos rock!
66 - Eroc
I would just like to say that i think 50 did the right thing in dissing fat joe. How can fat Joe be so stupid as saying something about 50 in the beginning anyway? Of course he's gonna dis you right back. I thought the VMA's were a little boring. They should have had more diverse performances, but right now you have to admit, hip hop is the biggest music around. 10 years ago you never saw any hip hop artists perform. Another thing, woulda loved to see Jay-Z perform seeing as how he is retiring and all. And just to respond to laney, what about the games video for dreams? best video out there.
67 - Eroc
Also, i wish dave chapelle could've hosted
68 - Tahneen
I only say part of the show and thought it was okay. green day kinda got annoying after winning so many times n that song is annoying now they should have played a better hit, so i agree with the critic. i was surprised gwen stefani didnt perform, she had a big year and it would have woken the audience up. Destiny's Child should have also performed, since this is their last cd as a group they should have done something. the whole 50 cent thing against fat joe was funny. R.Kelly has lost his mind and all his fans r crazy 2. did u see him ? he looked like a freak, he needs to quit while hes ahead. i luv rap and think kanye west did a good job, and so did Ludacris. P.Diddy , sorry Diddy was kinda annoying. kelly clarkson was good thou. Overall nothing really excited happened...MTV def needs to shake it up next year, and where was mariah carey? like hello they need to look at the charts to pick their performers and green day, i dont think deserved to win video of the year, cuz it was a stupid video.
69 - que
man all this bitchin is fu**ed. im a huge hip hop fan and hve been for a good 12 years....i totally agree with the vids all bein the damn same but all the descent worthwhile music that has any sorta positive message just dont get played but thats the industry u cant rely on that to sell records...if ur an artist sellin 200,000 an album ur gettin the hell outta there, these companys want numbers . i think artist are forced into the situation that they need to make bullshit music just to sell records....50 is the pefect example how u gunna diss joe, jada and the game just before u release an album just to create some hype...joe would physically tear 50s pussy into peices, jadas lyrically above anything 50 could dream of and lets not speak of the game give him a year or 2 and hell be bigger then 50 is now. since pac and big everyones tried to be too gangsta and act tough so thank god for artists like kanye, outkast and shit even the fat ass bizzare whoes doin somethin different. i need a break from hearin and sein 50 holdin a fuk'n cartoon gun in his damn clips please..thats only shit he ever gunna shoot i dont care how many time u been shot if u live u live if u dont u dont dont mean ur stronger then anyone just had a bit more luck but anyway we need to get diddy thye hell on coz hes just makes me wanna jump into the screen and takle his stupid ass into the crowd, i like commedians hosting it ads a little flavour to the show even if they know nuthin bout music and can someone please tell snoop he can stop tryin to be all hood, in his ups and downs clip his in some lil ass house. bet he aint seen the ghetto in a good 15 years and im guarentein thatr was filmed in a hollywood studio
70 - laney
Okay, in response to Eroc's comment bout the Game's video, yes it is good but it just didn't pop into my head when I was writing. Just a thought on the whole Fat Joe, 50 Cent thing. Surely 50 could have been the bigger man and ignored Fat Joe's comments? Is it possible that the reason he was shot (haven't a clue why it happened) was for mouthing off etc, and as was said above, he should grow and mature from such events? I don't know 'bout you, but I kinda think the whole rap rivalry thing is a bit stupid. Let bygones be bygones and no one else is going to be shot or injured etc. I used to live near a similar situation (you hurt my family, I'll kill yours) in Northern Ireland and I still fail to see the benefit of blowing each others' brains out. 50, Fat Joe, grow up and revel in the fact that you've more money than a human being should possess and millions of adoring fans. The fact that you don't appreciate your lives enough to keep yourselves safe is like a kick in the teeth for those killed in the devastation that was 9/11, the St.Stephen's Day Tsunami, the London Bombings, or more recently Hurricane Katrina. Some people die in accidents, don't disrespect them by inviting death!!!
71 - lisbeth
is it true that ciara was sitting right next to bow wow and he looked way shorter than her.and he bought her a ring wow well i think they are enaged. so they was no T.I
72 - Brrr
ay yo man 50 cent did the right thing to diss fat joe,
fat joe made a classy comment and fitty retaliated its his own fault he know's he shudnt fuck wit fitty, he said he didnt want to cause any drama but he did and its own fault narm sayin
73 - Hetley
about the comment : 50 cent : you faggots saying oh 50 thinks he's tough etc etc etc... i'd enjoy to see you reherce those comments to his face, he's been shot 9 times you fuckin idiots, if that isn't tough then when is? if he isn't so tough, i'd love to see you rap off, stupid little computer geeks sitting in the mofuckin safety of their parents basement
first of all i wanna tell ur bitch ass that 50 got shot 9 times plus got knifed by blackchild a member of murder inc .. he comes to the stage surrounding the place with bodyguard 50 aint tough he aint a killer he's a victim he's scared two .. Fat Joe NEVER had a bodygaurd in his whole life man .. he aint brittney spears he doesnt need no bodyguard .. the fact that all the police protection courtesy of g-unit came to the place like usual is more proof that 50 is the pussy ..
74 - 50 aka ferrari F50
50 Cent is the Best
75 - boss
50 is a boss ........fuck fat joe........fuck ja rul.........fuck jadakiss..........fuck the game...........ggggg-unit soldier