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Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" won the top prize Saturday at the Cannes Film Festival.

CANNES, France (AP) — U.S. filmmaker Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11," a scathing indictment of White House actions after the September 11 attacks, won the top prize Saturday at the Cannes Film Festival.…
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  • 26 - RJ Elliott

    Jun 08, 2004 at 12:24 am

    MM is an anti-American. He hates his country, the economic system that made him rich, and all those "useful idiots" who buy his books.

    He's nothing but hate, personified.

    Sad that so many love this fat communist liar so deeply...

  • 27 - Natalie Davis

    Jun 08, 2004 at 12:34 am

    Why? Because you say so? Some of us see Moore as loving what America is supposed to be and working so hard to make it reality. Long live American dissent.

    I'm with Diva on this right-wing frenzy. Goodness knows, it's almost amusing hearing you go on about this man, who obviously is doing something right.

  • 28 - RJ Elliott

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:12 am

    What exactly is he doing right? Lying profusely? Being morbidly obese? Attacking American for a foreign audience? Being an arrogant asshole?

    If you want a liberal hero, why not Russ Feingold or some other HONEST liberal?

    Paul Wellstone was a great man. When he died, I was sad. I disagreed with the guy on almost everything, but he was decent.

    Mike Moore is pond-scum. He lies, and makes millions from his lies while attacking "the rich."

    Thankfully, MM will likely die soon from his own sickening addiction to fast-food. Liberals should find an heir-apparent sometime soon...

  • 29 - Natalie Davis

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:20 am

    And you dare to criticize people for speaking ill of dead Ronnie Reagan. Wishing someone dead is far worse, Mr. Elliott. And you call Michael Moore -- who can be criticized justifiably, no argument there -- "an arrogant asshole." Interesting.

  • 30 - RJ Elliott

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:32 am

    I don't wish him dead. He'll quickly kill himself.

    And he is ARROGANT. But so am I. Fey...

  • 31 - John

    Jun 08, 2004 at 8:02 am

    Maybe if the fat bastard sleeps in a really small room he'll asphixiate on his own gas.

  • 32 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 9:12 am

    The majority of celeberties who have chanted anti-american remarks have done so on foreign soil. That syas it all.

    Even a jelly fish has more of a back bone than these cowards.

    I have also noticed that singer Toby Keith has been invited to several events to sing the national anthem, but I haven't heard much from the Dixe Pricks.

  • 33 - Mark Saleski

    Jun 08, 2004 at 10:43 am

    and again: rush, o'reilly, coulter etc. make their millions with their own 'lies' on a daily basis.

    and we see no screaming about it from the right.

  • 34 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 11:27 am

    Any person or persons like the Dixie Chicks who makes these statements in countries other than the US deserve not to be heard.

    Why don't they put these remarks on their concert advertisments and posters?
    The answer is obvious it is called bankrupt.

    Michael Moore reminds me of someone who digs in their ass then sniffs their fingers afterwards. Seriously, take a good look at him and see if you don't agree. I have a funny feeling that Cheeto's and ass don't mix well unless you're Michael Moore.

    Just another attention seeker like lation whore J-Lo. And speaking of ass, "Dude, where's my country"? You're sitting on it you fat motherfucker.

  • 35 - Mark Saleski

    Jun 08, 2004 at 11:31 am


    written by Theodore Roosevelt during the last year of ww I.

    go ahead, ignore it.

    "The President is merely the most important among a large number
    of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly
    to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad
    conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal,
    able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole.
    Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be
    full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means
    that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong
    as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in
    an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce
    that there must be no criticism of the President, or that
    we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only
    unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
    American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about
    him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell
    the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any
    one else."

  • 36 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 11:47 am

    Michael Moore is merely stateing what he beleives to be the truth for propoganda purposes. Further I don't have a problem with Americans speaking out, just do it here in the face of fellow Americans and not in a cowardly fashion while traveling abroad.

  • 37 - Josh Wills

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:10 pm

    >it just cracks me up to see people get the 'ole bulging forehead vein about moore's 'lies' when folks like ann coulter, sean hannity and bill o'reilly do it on a daily basis.

    it crack you up presumably because you are one of the numerous partisan mindless fools. the same crowd which labels anyone who criticizes (free speech anyone?) Moore's dissembling as "rightwing". as far as I'm concerned, moore is EXACTLY THE SAME as rush, coulter, bill reilly and all the other lying, sleezy media trash whose only goal seems to be to promote animosity and make the american people less informed.

    you partisan morons are the problem.

  • 38 - Mark Saleski

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:16 pm

    josh, your first paragraph is exactly my point. one is always criticized, but never the other.

    ..and i never said that i agreed with everything moore says either.

    but i guess i'm just a partisan moron.

    thank you.

  • 39 - Eric Olsen

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:26 pm

    My problem with Moore, as stated multiple times (forgive me), isn't that he is a "liar" foisting a particular point of view with a polemicist's laser beam fanaticism, it's that he is an entertainer who presents himself as a serious political thinker and who has gulled many into seeing him that way. As an entertainer he is sometimes entertaining, but as a thinker he can rarely be accused of thinking.

  • 40 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:41 pm

    "one is always criticized, but never the other."

    You started it, no you started it. You never get in trouble. Mom, mom!

    At least O'Reilly and Coulter have enough back bone to speak directly to America in America. That is my point.

    Tell the Cheez Wizz eating lard ass Moore to get a TV or Radio show. I'm sure he would get a lot of listeners / viewers.

    Besides I'm a moderate. There are plenty of times that Bill O'Reilly pisses me off. I do my best to observe and listen then vote for te person I think is the best.

    I voted for Bill Clinton. I beleive Clinton and Reagan were the two best Presidents in a long time. On the other hand Jimmy Carter and George Bush Sr. really sucked.

    Unfortunately for America Al Gore and George W were the two weakest candidates in history.

  • 41 - Mark Saleski

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:45 pm

    You started it, no you started it. You never get in trouble. Mom, mom!

    look man, all i'm doing is attempting to point out the hypocricy of the situation...and this is what you come up with?

    i guess we're done.


  • 42 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 1:58 pm

    As I said I'm a moderate. You act as though there is a conspiracy against the left or something. Say what you want just have the balls to do it in your home country.

    Get a news talk show in the same time slot as O'Reilly on another news station and speak.

  • 43 - Mark Saleski

    Jun 08, 2004 at 2:03 pm

    uh, no....no conspiracy implied here at all. i'm just saying that the majority of conservative talk/tv screem to the tree about people like moore, all the while lying in exactly the same matter.

    the issue of making statements in or out of your own country is a different matter.

  • 44 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 2:11 pm

    Just the publicity and propoganda he needs to get a high turn out at the film debut.

    I guess I just don't like the fat bastard in general.

  • 45 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 4:58 pm

    I guess now MacDiva is going to get angry because I think that Michael Moore digs in his ass and eats Cheeto's at the same time. Or maybe that O.J is a murdering piece of crap who didn't deserve even five seconds of Katie Courics air-time.

  • 46 - Mac Diva

    Jun 08, 2004 at 5:57 pm

    Other John. You remarked that M.M. always makes the remarks you so disapprove of out of the country. (Not true, BTW*.) That implies you wish he would make them in the good ole U.S.A. Considering your hatred of him and your desire for proximity, I wonder if you might act on your impulses. Seems reasonable.

    *One of the places M.M. has spoken, to great applause, is Austin, Texas.

    Josh Wills has explained he is not really on the same page with the Johns, though his short comment probably got lost in the mix.

    Eric Olsen gets the point I'm trying to make about people judging M.M. as a journalist, ie., reporter of fact, when he is not. Once one realizes what Moore is doing, claiming he is a 'liar' makes no sense because Moore is not claiming to be purely an adherent to fact.

    John-Z, anger is not the emotion your remarks elicit from me. They are too ridiculous for anger to be a reasonable response. I am bewildered by your latest claim -- a connection between me and O.J. Simpson. I can't think of any.

  • 47 - John-z

    Jun 08, 2004 at 6:47 pm

    I don't hate Michael Moore I just don't like the fat son of a bitch. Just as he doesn't like Bush. His probably is hatered. I actually laugh everytime I see MM. You are just angry because I joked about him asphixiating on his own gas while sleeping and digging in his fat ass while eating Cheeto's.

    As for the O.J remark I am just surprised no one has mentioned his recent interview replete with disgust. If he could have never run a football he would be more of a loser than he is now. And still a murderer...

  • 48 - Mac Diva

    Jun 08, 2004 at 7:43 pm

    You are again bewildering me, John-Z. I don't have any particular connection to Michael Moore, any more than I do to O.J. Simpson. My remarks go the nature of his work, not any personal interest in him. I haven't been attracted to large men and don't expect that to change.

  • 49 - Josh Wills

    Jun 09, 2004 at 11:56 am



    >josh, your first paragraph is exactly my point. one is always criticized, but never the other.

    The thread is about Moore. Why the paranoia. And the right certainly is criticized and rightly so. And why are they criticized?
    1. Mean-spirited attacks on people
    2. Lying

    Exactly the sleeze Moore deals in. Hes a despicable human being and an embarassment to real liberals.

    >..and i never said that i agreed with everything moore says either.

    No one said you did. I did criticize your creating some polemic where either we are "with Moore or we are with Rush". I hloathe them both. They're exactly the same lying loudmouth blowhards.

    >but i guess i'm just a partisan moron.

    Apparently.


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    Here's a funny site: http://moorestinks.blogspot.com

  • 50 - Josh Wills

    Jun 09, 2004 at 12:03 pm

    As for the observation that Moore makes much of his money, if not most, overseas, it is deadon.

    Essentially, his appeal is that xenophobe chauvinists and nationalists in racist ol' Europe can pat themselves on the back and feel superior. Never, EVER, would Moore offer up any of his cultural assassinations against Europeans. Curiously, none of the European countries are keen on a local "Moore" figure who bashes and defames. Funny, that.

    Moore fans in the US are a different matter. My main points of criticism are, in sum:

    1. Moore lies repeatedly, and exploits tragedy for fame and money. He is ruthless and cuts down people for his own sadistic amusement.

    2. Moore's foreign fans are largely xenophobes who do not have a 'liberal' bone in their bodies, if by liberal you mean fair, self-critical, tolerant, etc.


  • 51 - Doug

    Jun 09, 2004 at 1:07 pm

    MacDiva,
    Michael Moore makes movies that he calls "Documentaries". The reason many people are upset is because "Documentaries" are supposed to be factual...and Moore's movies play fast and loose with many facts. If he wants to make fictional movies, that's his right...but to call, for instance "Bowling for Columbine" a Documentary is an outright lie.

  • 52 - Mac Diva

    Jun 09, 2004 at 3:53 pm

    Doug, anyone who knows who M.M. is also knows his documentaries are a mix of fact and fiction. (Some call them mockumentaries.) It is not as if he is promoting himself as our contemporary Murrow, Ted Koppel. I expect Americans to bring some brains to the table. That would mean recognizing the line in commentary about politics from Laurence Sterne to Michael Moore.

    I have been around the blogosphere long enough to realize what likely happened here. One of the large Right Wing bloggers told the sheep to go out and say, 'Mike Moore is a liar.' So, one behind the other, they are doing exactly that. Whoever began this nonsense is just plain foolish. Moore is not a liar because he is not claiming to be adhering to facts exclusively.

    Nor is this a partisan issue. Recognizing creative license is a matter of using the gray matter between one's ears.

  • 53 - Doug

    Jun 09, 2004 at 5:38 pm

    MacDiva,
    Well, you see MD, there is exactly the problem. Michael Moore does not say he produces "mockumentaries" he calls them documentaries...which by their very definition are supposed to present facts. It is not a question of people bringing "...some brains to the tabel". It is a question of Michael Moore blatently claiming to be a documentary film maker, but not making documentaries. So, Moore does in fact claim to be adhering to the facts exclusively. There is a difference between using creative license in a documentary film and creating scenes and ideas that did not occur in reality. If Moore did not claim to be a documentary film maker, then I would have no problem with his work. I would simply chalk him up as a left wing wacko (similar to some right wing wackos who are very popular)and watch his films if the subject matter interested me (BFC, did). However, I take exception to his "Documentary" claim. You are correct, this is not a partisan issue, it's an issue of calling a liar a liar. Pretty simple, especially if you use the gray matter between one's ears.

  • 54 - RJ Elliott

    Jun 09, 2004 at 11:10 pm

    "Eric Olsen gets the point I'm trying to make about people judging M.M. as a journalist, ie., reporter of fact, when he is not. Once one realizes what Moore is doing, claiming he is a 'liar' makes no sense because Moore is not claiming to be purely an adherent to fact."

    Gee. Then why does he film "documentaries" (and win awards!)which are by definition non-fiction and truthful?

  • 55 - Josh Wills

    Jun 10, 2004 at 1:40 pm

    People claiming that Moore can't lie because he is a comedian should note:

    Moore, himself, said in his famous Oscar speech, that "we are writers of nonfiction" ....

    So he portrays himself as being a documentarian but when caught lying, he claims he's just kidding?

    What a sham. And a racist hater of America.

  • 56 - JKOTT

    May 03, 2005 at 5:01 pm

    YOU PEOPLE MUST BE VERY BORED...

  • 57 - Lucio Sibilia

    Jun 14, 2005 at 2:25 am

    Moore has given a view of Bush administration which may be not completely objective and is disliked my many Americans. But I ask: who can be completely objective on such historical happenings such as 9/11? Is the US propaganda (and the media campaign directed by the White House) to be credited as more objective than Mr. Moore????
    Moreover: even if there may be some lies in the documentary, it has the great merit to provide a view which is independent from the shallow conformism of the "embedded" media which dominate the American scene. Great journalism, great courage!
    My compliments to Mr. Moore.
    Lucio Sibilia

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