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Everybody Loves Raymond Must Be Banned - Comments Page 3
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76 - EPIC FAILURE
i'm not a virgin and i am commenting on this.
can i has prize now #50 & #51?
77 - Christopher Rose
Reading through this article as I corrected some editorial oversights, I noticed your statement that one billion Americans watch this truly awful show.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment expressed, I was wondering if that was comedic overstatement for effect? There are, of course, only 300 million Americans...
78 - Al Barger
Brother Rose- The 1 billion viewers number is only a rough estimate, and some of that is likely the same people watching several times a day. Thing is, it's kinda hard to get an accurate number in that the typical Raymond lover is too stupid to accurately answer a survey on the phone from Nielsen, much less fill one out on paper.
79 - yo
Politics and "DEEPER MEANINGS" are what shows like This Week with George Stephanopolis are for. If I want something like that, I tune into a show like that, not a sitcom. I happen to enjoy Raymond, because I feel like this is the typical family. That doesn't make me an idiot. And of course, every Sunday I tune into This Week.
80 - MB
Umm. You do know that there are much more important things to be banned then Everybody Loves Raymond. A TV show never hurt anyone. If you were really so smart you would complain about those DEEPER things, such as the declining economy or the pointless war that we are stuck in rather than some TV show that some of America happens to enjoys.
81 - All Hail Dictator Al Barger
Woww...what an extreme waste of space on the internet and time for Al Barger. You know, mister, you're not changing anybody's mind with this post. TV networks aren't going to magically stop airing reruns of Raymond just being the all-powerful Al Barger disliked the show. Get a life.
And another thing. KING OF THE HILL? I personally despise that TV show. But that's just my opinion. I'm most definitely not putting down anyone who enjoys those shows. That's Al Barger's job.
82 - All Hail Dictator Al Barger
PS-
My favorite shows are
Seinfeld
King of Queens
Simpsons
The Office
Colbert Report
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
and How I Met your Mother
Do those shows meet your approval? Because I may have to stop watching them if they don't.
83 - All Hail Dictator Al Barger
One more thing.
Third year med student at John's Hopkins
aka
Everybody Loves Raymond lover
84 - neha
i like you man. i can't say i agree with you, but you are opinionated and i appreciate that.
85 - Al Barger
neha- Thank you for your kind words.
All Hail- The Official Correct Judgment is that the Simpsons, Seinfeld and Colbert are cool, Jon Stewart is extremely overrated, the King of Queens is only maybe marginally better than Raymond, and I don't know enough to have any strong opinion about the others. Please adjust your viewing in accordance. Thank you.
86 - Snipez
Funny it says personal attacks are not allowed, but this whole blog is a personal attack to those who enjoy Everybody Loves Raymond. The formula for this show is all about domestic situations, that's the key to its success and why a billion people watched it every week. If you don't like it, don't tune in. But obsessively hating it and spending so much time talking about it doesn't make you look any better than the type of people you claim are fans of the show. My only complaint about the show is that every episode makes Ray look like an idiot and Deborah has to clean up after his stupidity. We all know in real life the Man is the intelligent head of the family who has to manage the wife's erratic irrational emotions. But the show is probably written by whiny politically correct liberals and the fanbase is most likely overwhelmingly female. Never the less, I am one of those fans who laughs at every episode.
87 - I Love Stupid People
People watch Everybody Loves Raymond because they do stupid innate things that make people laugh. This can also be said of Peter Griffin on The Family Guy. He is sooo stupid... it's funny! Why else do you think this Al Barger guy got this article published? He's pretty stupid, and this article made me laugh. I'm telling you... it works. Stupid people are funny!
88 - Al Barger
ILSP- I are not stupid. I is a real smart intelektual, so there!
89 - British Cigarrettes Bother Me
Uummmmm...Excuse me, Dr. Evil. One BILLION Americans? As in three times the three hundred MILLION Americans we have? Are we all watching it three times, including the infants? You Tool!
90 - Cant-think-of-a-name
God bless you child..."everybody hates raymond" is simply one of the most sinfully-boring, mind-numbingly stupid shows and now "2 and a half wits" inherited this honour.
Although I have to disagree with you about friends, the show was very funny and witty although the scripts were simple.
And I couldn't help but notice that some of you put "seinfeld" with the same level of "everybody loves raymond" and "the king of queens" that should be one of the seven sins people....the latter two added nothing to the dimwitted-gets-a-family formula
91 - Raymond Hater
Yes i have to agree that Everybody loves Raymond does suck. It just seems like the same plot line for the 210 episodes the season was on. One of my biggest grievances with the show is the poor writing. Did anyone ever notice the kids aren't even around at christmas time? Where are they? For the rest of the cast, you can predict everything that will happen. Marie will be intrusive and Frank will be an ass. Robert will complain about Ray having everything and Debra will feel that Rays mother is harassing her. And with Raymond there are so many things wrong and i dont want to be here for three days. In short everybody loves raymond is a terrible show and all traces of it should be burned
92 - Al Barger
Thank you Raymond Hater. I'm pleased to make acquaintance with a critical connisseur such as yourself. It's some small relief to me to know that I am not the only person who would look at Raymond and then have the good sense to go "yuck!"
93 - re: Snipez
A personal attack is attacking an individual. An example of this would be, "Snipez, you're an idiot and all of your opinions are wrong!" (It's also an example of ad hominem argumentation... using an attack against you as a basis for invalidating your arguments.)
A personal attack is not an attack on the things you enjoy. For example, "Oh, you like Everybody Loves Raymond, do you Snipez? Well guess what? That show sucks!" I haven't attacked you, but something you like.
To put this in terms of physicality, it's the difference between punching you in the face and punching your mom in the face. While the latter might rile you up quite a good deal, you were not the subject of the attack. I hope this clears things up for you.
94 - david cousins should be banned
Hey david: if your taste is suitable enough for Seinfeld then why dumb yourself down by watching that uninspiring garbage (aka: everybody loves raymond)? And going as far as calling it "OMGZ DIS DA BEST SHOW EVEEERZZZ" I don't understand how people like you have their mindset to actually think that "king of queens" and "elr" is good. As much as I LOATHE will & grace, but it is definately better than "raymond" (by the way Friends is right up there with Seinfeld) and it goes this way:
Friends and Seinfeld> king of queens> will & grace> raymond
95 - FrankFan
True. Ray did things that just made my chest hurt, because I wanted to climb into the tv so bad and beat him into a bloody pulp. One thing though, Frank was awesome!!! He is my favorite character of all time. He told it like it is. He said the things that we all think, but don't say so that we don't offend people. Well, not ME, I don't mind offending people, but most people try not to. My favorite line of his was to Marie, "YOU? A TROPHY WIFE? What contest IN HELL did I win?" Whoever wrote that line deserves an Emmy.
96 - yousif
It was O.K but as said before I'll take F.R.I.E.N.D.S and Sienfeld anyday before Raymond. It was funny at times, but many episodes I find to be boring and it is definitely not worth mentioning to be the subject of arguement on a blog
97 - blogger
it was a good and realistic show.
98 - Adam
This show sucked worse than even chuck lorre sitcoms.It is literally a show about nothing, the characters are so ordinary it hurts and they have no real problems only suburban soccer mom nonsense. It has whole episodes devoted to such matters as ray not getting any or robert not communicating SIMPLE stuff. its a waste of tv air time, its a show without conflict or resolution- HUNT DOWN AND KILL RAYMOND!
99 - Juliet
Acá en Argentina miramos Everybody loves Raymond.
Y no coincido en nada de lo que decís!
Raymond's rules! hahah
Here in Argentina we watch at TV Everybody loves Raymond.
And I don´t agree with you!
100 - Cosmican
Davidcousins, you like King of Queens and not Friends?! This is like saying Britney Spears is better than Elvis.
Barger, what's this obsession with "intelligent humor"? Do you really want every TV show to require an IQ of 200 to understand. It's not about how dumb people are, it's about how people have certain themes and how certain shows are able to fulfill them. In case of Raymond's I think it addressed a lot of realistic family issues in a comedic manner (in earlier seasons that is)...I mean in no way it was a thinking man's show, but it wasn't cheap either (think married with children?).
For me as long as the show has a good content, I have no trouble with the simplicity of humor -- my taste ranges from friends to mony python
101 - PokerFACE
OMG finally someone hate this crappy show thank you
102 - TechnoGeek
You people only care if it's funny or not. Everybody Loves Raymond was no sincere to it's message, it was supposed to be about married people with their REAL problems, in it's earliest episode, Raymond himself appeared and said it wasn't about the kids, it's OK, if they're gonna exclude the kids, at least they're gonna focus on Marriage problems more, and the only thing they "represented" is another washed-out comedy about a WEAK WEAK man and his hot, shrew, bossy wife
103 - Halo
I feel sorry for for Italians; they either represented as manwhores/studs or idiots
104 - Pierre
Before I get to the show. There was some rather foolish comment above about "Liberals" writing Raymond and men naturally being the intellegent heads of family over their emotional wives. What universe does this person live in. Its easy to find families where the husband is a dolt and the wife the intelligent one. Well I agree Everybody Likes Raymond was and remains horrible, excremental TV. I esspecially hated Raymonds night of the living dead parents. Such angry, hateful people. Having known relatives like that; seeing such monsterous psychopathic individuals on TV is too much. Helen esspecially was full of anger and hatred. Such people destroy those around them leaving misery and desolation. Raymond's mothers goal was so obviously to teardown and wreak the lives of those around her. Being so desberately unhappy she longs to spread unhappyness around her. She is a spitful monster. Not particularily funny. In fact the entire group of characters was characterized by jealousy, hatred, self-centeredness, love simply does not really exist on this show. Its about a bunch of small-minded petty people whoose main emotion is angry resentment.
105 - Al Barger
Pierre- Thank you. That was a particularly insightful analysis of the yuckness that was Raymond.
106 - Rockrocks
Pierre: I agree with you, I think the series that started this mess "mean = cool" is Seinfeld.
107 - joe rotundo
oh, maybe i should watch the discovery channel and peek inside the tomb of king tut, or perhaps tune in channel 21 and spend an evening with the mamas and the papas for the 17th time this year, no, i'll be an informed viewer and chat with larry king as he manipulates his guest6s to answer the way he wants by keep asking the same question in different ways to different panelists until they agree with him and then go to a commercial break.
i like "everybody loves raymond" because i can't remember having a conversation about GOD with any of them in a hundred years and, yeah, the qwhole neighborhood here is married to a wife like his, me included, the in laws are out laws, family holidays are a chance to clean out the old lady's bank account, who can't identified?
you, my friend, are no charlatan but a excellent critic with superb narrative abilities who does what you do best - criticize, note that it only your opinion and give a little help to your friends
I'm seconding new brother Blogcritic David Flanagan who finds freedom to be offensive. He's right. It sucks
everybody loves raymond because everybody is raymond.
i watch the show and give him a lot of credit for his talented abilities in the field of comedy, scriptwriting, acting and do what he does best - being raymond
108 - Al Barger
Joe - absolutely no apology needed. I'm not likely going to become a Raymond fan, but I certainly thank you for your kind words.
Moreover, your literate rebuke is a credit the ranks of Raymond fans. It is a good counter example to my normal low presumptions about the mentality of Raymond fans. You represent well for your guy.
109 - joe rotundo
You represent well for your guy.
no, i am only someone who has taken the time and the effort to reply to your opinion, which i happened upon coincidentally and found, if you will, to be amusing.
i am not down on the waterfront, with a soapbox, "i coulda been a contender" because i never wanted to be a contender
you know who represents for the guy
the guy sitting across from you on the bus, she's walking in front of you on the way to work, he's buying his wife a box of chocolate's at hallmards, yeah, his brother just drove by in the squadcar, the mom is chatting on the corner of your block with 2 of her church friends, the guy buying lunch at mcdonald's, etc.
the thing is "there's nothing wrong with being a raymond", and, i compliment mr. barone on his idea of bringing a show to tv that obviously lots of people love, no easy task
110 - Pierre
I too also hate and abhor the abomination of desolation known as Everybody Loves Raymond. I completely agree that Raymond is a mealy mouthed, annoying waste of space and yes the wife is a shrew but guess what married to that any self respecting women would be a shrew or indeed the controlling bitch from hell, and someone like Raymond would deserve it! But the piece de resistance on the show are Raymond's excremental pieces of rotting vomit, his parents. Indisbutably the vilest parents ever on a sitcom. We're suppossed to find such incredibly hateful, angry people funny!? Its so obvious that neither one is getting any. They are toxic to the nth degree. In real life any child of their's not seriously damaged by being raised by them would not want anything to do with them or their hateful malign ways. They are incredibly cruel and both enjoy with relish and great satisfaction making their kids miserable and unhappy. They are in my opinion seriously psychopathic.