And what about musicals? While they may have the occasional memorable song or dance number, I would certainly consider Broadway Melody (1928-29), An American in Paris (1951) and GiGi (1958) as being bad. The last two have the unfair advantage of being saddled with the horrible actress Leslie Caron.
Empire did get it right in regards to A Beautiful Mind, a terrible film written by that hack Akiva Goldsman. How a writer could get so many facts wrong about the man’s life when he has access to them in the book he’s adapting speaks to his pathetic abilities. The film only won because Ron Howard and Brian Grazer are such nice guys in the industry.
Check out El Bicho's take on the 2005 Oscars.
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Article comments
— go to most recent comments1 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
a beautiful mind and forrest gump would be top 2 on my list. Howard getting the top spot.
2 - Eric Olsen
I hereby name Empire the worst British film magazine
3 - Dave Nalle
They're completely wrong about Braveheart, and I have to put it down to anti-Scotts prejudice, but it's hard to argue with some of the others. Greatest Show on Earth, Ordinary People, Terms of Endearment and Cavalcade really are painfully awful. Rocky doesn't belong on the list either, of course.
Dave
4 - AIAIAIAI
I'm surprised Titanic didn't make the list. I think it's easily one of the ten worst best pictures of all time.
It was simply a below average film that hoards of chicks flocked to see because at the time they loved DiCRAPrio and some special effects.
Also that film beating out Good Will Hunting (forget your hatred for Damon and Assfleck, that movie WAS great) should insure it's inclusion on the top 10 list.
5 - Matt Egan
Wow. The Braveheart choice does seem pretty transparent. Forrest Gump is a uniquely American fable that belongs on no worst of list.
6 - El Bicho
AI,
When a film makes almost $2 billion worldwide, there must have been some men included in the "horde".
Titanic is not below average. Sure, it's got an average story, but it also has amazing action sequences. The film is a technical marvel whose completion is more impressive than a film about two guys talking in a room.
I enjoyed Good Will Hunting regardless of the illegimate Oscar it received for screenplay, but let's get serious, L.A. Confidential blows it out of the freakin' water.
How do you like them apples?!
7 - daudder
Either The Greatest Show on Earth or Around the World in 80 Days, both dreadful, undramatic films of questionable value. Braveheart is Citizen Kane in comparison
8 - Dave Nalle
I have to agree that Greatest Show on Earth should be #1. It's the most godawful boring spectacle ever put on film. Around the World in 80 Days is at least moderately entertaining.
Dave
9 - Nick Jones
"L.A. Confidential blows it out of the freakin' water. (heh heh, so to speak.)
Damn straight.
"Titanic is not below average. Sure, it's got an average story, but it also has amazing action sequences.
And that's about all there was to it.
I went to see it with my brother, and the first thing I had to say after it was over was "What a sap-o-rama!" (first coined by me to describe E.T.).
Out of the thousand or so real-life passengers, Cameron had to write a sory about a handful of fictional characters? Don't know why he bothered to call for that moment of silence for the dead at the Oscars; he didn't consider them in the movie, except for a few cameos.
And what about the Winslet character herself? God, what a cunt! She seems like an exercise in the Unreliable Narrator: everything centered around her, as if the sinking was all about how it impacted her life. There was enough room on the debris for two people; Jack didn't need to die (I'll bet she actually kicked him in the face until he went under!). And how cruel, selfish and cowardly it was to not let her mother know she survived - if she had any backbone, she would have gone to her mother to let her know she was alive, and told her she would not marry what's-his-face under any circumstances.
And then the final scene: she goes to sleep, and dreams of the passengers gathering round to applaud her. Oh, really? Why? The Titanic story has been told in books, movies, and the accounts of other survivers. Was her narration so much better? God, the woman has an ego as big as the Titanic itself!
The one critical comment that sums up the film and the Winslet character for me came from MAD magazine. She's throwing the jewel over the side, and says, (I'm paraphrasing here) "Here I am throwing the jewel into the ocean, when I could sell it and pay back my granddaughter for putting up with me for all these years. I guess I am a selfish bitch!"
Whew. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
10 - Eric Berlin
I don't like very much about this list. Braveheart is a fabulous movie: moving, well-paced, emotional. Much better than Gladiator, which featured an annoying array of cut-away action shots that don't show anything close to real fighting.
Rocky is a people's favorite. I don't know if Forrest Gump was Oscar worthy, but I loved it and love it still.
Where's The Last Emperor? I can never stay awake through that one.
Good post, El B. Great point on the '89 Oscars, too -- terrible pick that year.
I wrote all of the above before I remembered that I really don't care about awards for art (but I'm a sucker for lists!).
11 - Shark
Forrest Gump should have been #1. One of the worst, most insulting films ever made, imho.
12 - Robert Nagle
Titanic was interesting, though a little too weepy. It was good writing though and good direction. Read Lorrie Moore's great analysis of the film to see why it holds appeal http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2003/03/22/bftit22.xml
Forrest Gump--I thought it was stupid and mediocre too until I saw it with a group of students in a foreign country. They raved about it. It's one of those silly sentimental films that works better at the theatre.
I am dumbstruck that Dances with Wolves (that syrupy historically bogus Western) wasn't put on the list.
13 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
i just bought the issue in question (yes, long-term reader of Empire, is what The Duke is), and maybe it's worth noting that this section appeared in Kim Newman's monthly bit where he'll produce his own personal top 10 of whatever, and then readers are invited to challenge said choices in the letters page. It's Newman's opinion, not "Empire's" as such. Worth noting also that Braveheart was one of the magazines 100 Videos You Must Own back in the day, when folks still bought things like "videos"
and yeah, Forrest GUmp is awful, but nowhere near as bad as A Beautiful Mind.
14 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
ooops, sorry, this week's Top 10 was chosen by Patrick Peters, not Kim Newman.
15 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
from his criteria; "None of the features on this list deserved to win cinema's most glittering prize. They weren't the best films of their year... although the same could also be said for The Great Ziegfeld (1936), You Can't Take It With You (1938), Going My Way (1944), In The Heat of The Night (1967), Patton (1970), Kramer Vs Kramer (1979), Chariots Of Fire (1981), Out Of Africa (1985) and The English Patient (1996). But these ten represent the most cynical abuses of a deeply flawed system, in which pampered movers, shakers and has-been's - who have little connection to the real world - get to shape the opinions of audiences who still think these little golden statuettes are a guarantee of excellence."
Patrick Peters, The 10 Worst Best Pictures, Empire April 2005
And, as someone requested, here's what he said about Braveheart. If you have the oppurtunity, i reccomend checking out the whole article. it's only two pages, as usual, but entertaining.
"Braveheart (1995) - This typical piece of Pom-bashing from Mel Gibson is just about the all-time worst Best Picture. It groans under the grandiose historical pomposity that had made El Cid, 55 Days At Peking and Khartoum such collosal bores in the early 1960's. Writer Randall Wallace might have merited praise for making 13th century history relevant to audiences who thought King Edward was a potato or a cigar, but his dialogue has all the thudding subtelty of a parody. And then there are the battle scenes, which make a virtue out of techniques patented by Akira Kurosawa in Seven Samurai some 40 years ealier."
Patrick Peters, 10 Worst Best Pictures, Empire April 2005
16 - DrPat
"Braveheart (1995) - This typical piece of Pom-bashing from Mel Gibson is just about the all-time worst Best Picture. (Patrick Peters) [Emphasis mine]
Hmmm. Wonder why the weasel-wording. Do you suppose they had battles in the editorial office over this pick, finally deciding to bump Gibson's fanny to the top over Peters' protest?
17 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
heh, who knows what slaughter ensued! I find the "typical piece of pom-bashing" thing a bit weird myself. What other "pom-bashing" films has Gibson directed? Sure, he was in the patriot, but he didn't direct it. I don't even remember any English CHARACTERS in Man Without A Face, never mind anyone for to "bash". And weren't a damn englishman to be seen in The Passion. They didn't even speak it! What the hell, Peters?
18 - Ano
I've never even heard of Empire magazine, but when I saw on the internet that they had ranked Braveheart the worst Oscar movie ever, I had to speak my mind. Let me just say this. Whoever came up with Braveheart as the worst Oscar movie ever has to be the stupidest idiot on the planet. It ranks as the top film ever on many people's list. Empire magazine has never seen a penny of mine, and will never see it as a result of this ludicrous rating.
19 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
i would protest, too, but i've decided for the much more cutting approach of continuing to buy the magazine and saying nothing. I will, however, be sure to mention it maybe to someone in a taxi.
20 - Unknown
WTF? Braveheart the Worst Best Picture? Are these F'n Brits out of their F'n Minds????
Go Die.
21 - DrPat
I suspect the magazine just let a little chauvinism dictate this choice.
After all, Mel depicts Wallace as the ultimate heroic good guy, just defending his family as he whoops the Brit baddies -- and also provides genes for the English throne -- until he is brought down by treachery...
22 - Georg Senze
I think that "Lord Of The Rings - The Return Of The King" is the most worst "Best Picture" of all time. It is optically pompous and cupped.
23 - Bob A. Booey
This was an excellent discussion. Very impressive article, Bicho.
Braveheart's probably not the worst, but it's certainly in the bottom 1/3 or 1/4 of Oscar winners. Good call on Titanic (I'd argue the worst) and Gladiator as well.
Any thoughts on what your Top 10 best films list would be, Bicho et al? I'm not qualified to answer that question myself since my knowledge of film before 1975 or so is very, very limited. I haven't seen even half of the films on the best picture winners' list.
That is all.
24 - angelo pensahan
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25 - Tan The Man
Braveheart is pretty overrated - as is Titanic.