But isn't the whole idea having a contest to pick the "best" singer somewhat artifical? What are the criteria that make someone an Idol? I know that's the "What is art?" discussion and I don't want to get into it.
But I was thinking, why don't they have a Music Olympics? That way, there would be simple standards that would exclude all talk of art & artistic merit. You know, a highest note category, a loudest voice category, etc. That way there could be no jury rigging or fixing - just take the measurements and declare the winner. How many notes per minute (NPM) were in this guy's guitar solo? And in which division - acoustic or electric? There could even be associated categories - longest hair, most wattage in the light show - hey, I think I just fixed AI!!!
You are not very bright. You clearly have no reading comprehension and little formal education. This isn't about your color, it's about YOU. You clearly spend too much time online -- I'm not sure who your internet "race passing" buddies are, but you need to get out more. It's almost as if you didn't read a WORD of my last post, you twit. Anyone who's following this discussion realizes how inane your argument and "analysis" is.
Here's a little something from today's New York Times, a paper I'm sure none of you read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/19/arts/television/19IDOL.html?ex=1085544000&en=c54ce33ba72ab45a&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN Who's going to win "American Idol"?
SIMON COWELL Diana DeGarmo.
HEFFERNAN Oh, good Lord.
COWELL I thought she was a stage-school brat when I first met her. But she's quite a nice girl. And she's our little Seabiscuit.
HEFFERNAN Why did La Toya London, who's such a good singer, get kicked off last week?
COWELL She was very cold. She could have been a robot for all the emotion or personality she put over. And she said something very stupid. She had a little bit of criticism, and she said: "I'm not the slightest bit worried. We're all winners now. We're all going to have successful careers." When she said it, I said, "She's out." Because America decides whether they're going to have successful careers. To say that was verging on arrogance.
**End quote**
Admit you're stupid. I'm smarter and a better critic than any of you. Simon made the exact same arguments I did 2 days ago.
MacDiva: what have I said that's racist? Please do tell. This should be good. I'd wager that your experience and understanding of racism in life is negligible outside your "internet circles" -- some of us actually experience life outside a computer screen.
I should add this, though. The only correct thing you've said is that we need to discuss racism, particularly in media. We live in a world where black folks and white folks watch entirely different programming and much of network prime time TV STILL has either no characters of color or embarrassing tokens.
I've presented the only cogent analysis on race in this discussion. But feel free to ignore that since you want so desperately to believe you're not a sell-out when I call America out on its racial issues. You should be agreeing; God knows what your messed-up ideology is.
By the time the troll finishes, he will have revised his initial racist rant to echo everything I've said. But, the point for him is to have gotten that initial post up. Don't bother trying to find out who he is. The identifying information is faked.
Am I surprised Cowell would give his stamp of approval to whatever the outcome turns out to be? No at all. He has a vested interest in doing so.
MacDiva: you're paranoid and mentally ill. Your comments are NEVER based on anything I've said and it makes me suspect you're illiterate since you never refer to any actual words I've used. I'm glad you want to "internet stalk" me or whatever. I'm flattered, but calm down.
My point was that Cowell made the same point I did about LaToya's overconfident statement that cost her votes. Does that make him racist too?
Anyone else who's still reading this discussion realizes what a joke your take on this is, Mac. I suggest you think before adding more nonsense to this discussion.
If Fox isn't careful, it's going to destroy the American Idol franchise.
All I can say to this whole thread is: who gives a shit?
33 -
apparent bad guy
May 20, 2004 at 10:52 am
Hey speaking of Racism, anybody seen the movie "Friday" ? I saw it the other night, and it was hysterical.
By the way, you guys had better stop worrying about Black V White, 'cause the hispanics are takin' over.....
JMHO
34 -
Shark
May 24, 2004 at 6:21 pm
Yeee-Haw!
Bob A. Booey, welcome to Blogcritics, where racists type in a special font visible only to the legendary MacDiva.
Congratulations.
You're now an official member of the fastest growing group in America: people who've been accused of racism on Blogcritics by our Native-American, Black, ex-journalist, ex-lawyer, multi-blogger, and close personal friend of many famous novelists, college professors, and neo-confederate ass-kickers.
Pull up a chair, put on yer imaginary hood, dust off yer invisible Confederate flag -- and grab yer shorts, babe.
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26 - Vern Halen
But isn't the whole idea having a contest to pick the "best" singer somewhat artifical? What are the criteria that make someone an Idol? I know that's the "What is art?" discussion and I don't want to get into it.
But I was thinking, why don't they have a Music Olympics? That way, there would be simple standards that would exclude all talk of art & artistic merit. You know, a highest note category, a loudest voice category, etc. That way there could be no jury rigging or fixing - just take the measurements and declare the winner. How many notes per minute (NPM) were in this guy's guitar solo? And in which division - acoustic or electric? There could even be associated categories - longest hair, most wattage in the light show - hey, I think I just fixed AI!!!
27 - Bob A. Booey
Mac,
You are not very bright. You clearly have no reading comprehension and little formal education. This isn't about your color, it's about YOU. You clearly spend too much time online -- I'm not sure who your internet "race passing" buddies are, but you need to get out more. It's almost as if you didn't read a WORD of my last post, you twit. Anyone who's following this discussion realizes how inane your argument and "analysis" is.
Here's a little something from today's New York Times, a paper I'm sure none of you read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/19/arts/television/19IDOL.html?ex=1085544000&en=c54ce33ba72ab45a&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN Who's going to win "American Idol"?
SIMON COWELL Diana DeGarmo.
HEFFERNAN Oh, good Lord.
COWELL I thought she was a stage-school brat when I first met her. But she's quite a nice girl. And she's our little Seabiscuit.
HEFFERNAN Why did La Toya London, who's such a good singer, get kicked off last week?
COWELL She was very cold. She could have been a robot for all the emotion or personality she put over. And she said something very stupid. She had a little bit of criticism, and she said: "I'm not the slightest bit worried. We're all winners now. We're all going to have successful careers." When she said it, I said, "She's out." Because America decides whether they're going to have successful careers. To say that was verging on arrogance.
**End quote**
Admit you're stupid. I'm smarter and a better critic than any of you. Simon made the exact same arguments I did 2 days ago.
MacDiva: what have I said that's racist? Please do tell. This should be good. I'd wager that your experience and understanding of racism in life is negligible outside your "internet circles" -- some of us actually experience life outside a computer screen.
28 - Bob A. Booey
I should add this, though. The only correct thing you've said is that we need to discuss racism, particularly in media. We live in a world where black folks and white folks watch entirely different programming and much of network prime time TV STILL has either no characters of color or embarrassing tokens.
I've presented the only cogent analysis on race in this discussion. But feel free to ignore that since you want so desperately to believe you're not a sell-out when I call America out on its racial issues. You should be agreeing; God knows what your messed-up ideology is.
29 - Mac Diva
By the time the troll finishes, he will have revised his initial racist rant to echo everything I've said. But, the point for him is to have gotten that initial post up. Don't bother trying to find out who he is. The identifying information is faked.
Am I surprised Cowell would give his stamp of approval to whatever the outcome turns out to be? No at all. He has a vested interest in doing so.
30 - Bob A. Booey
MacDiva: you're paranoid and mentally ill. Your comments are NEVER based on anything I've said and it makes me suspect you're illiterate since you never refer to any actual words I've used. I'm glad you want to "internet stalk" me or whatever. I'm flattered, but calm down.
My point was that Cowell made the same point I did about LaToya's overconfident statement that cost her votes. Does that make him racist too?
Anyone else who's still reading this discussion realizes what a joke your take on this is, Mac. I suggest you think before adding more nonsense to this discussion.
31 - Mac Diva
Rant on, 'Bob.' You will have to change your screen name (for the third time?) if you aren't careful.
Meanwhile, I've got blogging to do.
32 - bhw
If Fox isn't careful, it's going to destroy the American Idol franchise.
All I can say to this whole thread is: who gives a shit?
33 - apparent bad guy
Hey speaking of Racism, anybody seen the movie "Friday" ? I saw it the other night, and it was hysterical.
By the way, you guys had better stop worrying about Black V White, 'cause the hispanics are takin' over.....
JMHO
34 - Shark
Yeee-Haw!
Bob A. Booey, welcome to Blogcritics, where racists type in a special font visible only to the legendary MacDiva.
Congratulations.
You're now an official member of the fastest growing group in America: people who've been accused of racism on Blogcritics by our Native-American, Black, ex-journalist, ex-lawyer, multi-blogger, and close personal friend of many famous novelists, college professors, and neo-confederate ass-kickers.
Pull up a chair, put on yer imaginary hood, dust off yer invisible Confederate flag -- and grab yer shorts, babe.
Trust me: It gets worse.