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— go to most recent comments26 - Temple Stark
I was mildy amused until the last line, "Seacrest out" then I was laughing out loud.
27 - Cerulean
College Town or Celebrity Mecca? Whenever someone comes on one of my threads and seriously claims to be a celebrity or associated with a celebrity, I trace their IP number and do other research. Four out of five of the "celebrity-related" posts on my threads have been from the same college town in California. It is not part of the greater Los Angeles area. It is not known for celebrities living or hanging out there. The only thing of note there is the college, and of course, college students.
The posts purported to belong to Adam Goldberg, Christina Ricci and one other person who now claims to have been at the filming of the show all come from this same college town. The email address chosen by "Adam" seems to hint that he makes a hobby of impersonating Adam Goldberg. The comments here contain various inconsistencies vis a vis their appearances on the Dinner for Five show in question.
Unless "Adam" and "Christina" contact the editor here with their representatives' names, agency names and locations, and representatives' phone numbers so I can confirm the authenticity of these postings, I will assume these are fraudulent. I would contact their agents myself now but there already seems to be a lot of reason to doubt these postings.
28 - christina ricci
that's an interesting tactic. thanks? i guess. at least i won't get in trouble with my publicist. i was starting to get a little nervous. even if we are only defending ourselves against your slanderous remarks, i'm still not supposed to air my opinions so publicly or respond to personal attacks.
icm is out of the office on weekends anyway, momo.
but, with a headline so moronically didactic, who could refuse?
and we don't have to prove a thing to you (but nice table turning) you're the one making claims with nothing to back them up, except of course you're superhuman ability to spot drug-addled behavior and jews
fraudulent-- you just keep on assuming and we'll look forward to more even less accurate posts and reports. way to go.
adam, can you pass the geometry book?
ps--i wish to god you would just respond to the point we're trying to make as opposed to assaulting us with your techie ocd.
29 - Temple Stark
Do doubt. It would be cool, but Ricci has class and is, I believe, much smarter.
30 - adam goldberg?
Hey there Stark, don't I have any class.
And apparently she's not smarter. I thought it was impressive considering she's not in fact writing from a college town. Not nice, Stark. NOw you're on the shit list too. We were fans until now.
(p.s.: Chartruse: do you honestly think I'd use a real e-mail address? Do you also honestly think you're fooling anyone with the tracing of ip addresses; for if they could be traced back to your place of
residence, we'd all be in trouble. )
"We reserve the right to delete spam comments, repeat comments, personal attacks of any kind and terms offensive to groups when used in a pejorative manner."
Hmmm...
31 - Dave Nalle
I do have to say that the Adam Goldberg comment reads an awful lot like he speaks, for what that's worth. If it's not real it's a damned fine impersonation. Can't say on the Ricci comments since I haven't really got a handle on her style from interviews and such.
BTW, the IP will probably originate at an ISP, so while the ISP may be located in nowheresville southern California for business reasons their customers could be anywhere in the region.
Dave
32 - Temple Stark
Sure I can do a profile of a web user who gets off wasting time impersonating Goldberg. Send me your e-mail.
In the meantime personal attacks on me? Comments deleted.
33 - christina ricci
stark: what, you didn't like my poem?
hey dave, we're curious and sort of analog, how does one trace an IP address anyway?
and is there anyway to post a picture with our comments?
34 - Temple Stark
Sorry but trolls who are offering nothing and then verge into personal insults isn't what this site is about - although many people like that. If there was anything in the deleted comments worth saving I would have just edited them down.
Next step is banning, so go ahead if you like. Sorry to be so harsh but you start talking about my livelihood in a public place and you are not worth keeping around.
35 - Dave Nalle
If someone has access to MT they can certainly trace your source IP, since MT does store it.
I'd love to see a picture. Might be quite revealing. You can post it like this:
You need a bit of html skill to post a picture. If you can upload it to the web somewhere, just post the web address as part of your comment and people will be able to find it.
Dave
36 - ag
now that you've deleted both your personal attack on me as well as my personal attack on you, your last comment is a bit of a contextual anomolie. Just tried to e-mail you, but intersting. doesn't seem to work. make it available and you'll get a picture of me from my camera phone wasting my time actually being adam goldberg.
furthermore, big man, if you're going to delete comments on your grand site, you might want to begin with the slanderous ones.
37 - gonzo marx
blast you Temple..you deleted my perfect prose as well!!
blargh!!!
i had offered to authenticate Ms Ricci via personal inspection..but i guess the joke is gone now...
heh
Excelsior!
38 - ag
YOUR LIVLIEHOOD?!!!!
I'm a characeter actor and maker of independent films. Life ain't as easy as you might think. Charges of drug addiction and Judaism don't help matter.s
39 - Temple Stark
sorry gonzo. Wasn't intentional. repost it?
40 - Aaman
i dp think a poster shd not be tracing commenters down et al - that's not what Blogcritics is abt
41 - christina ricci
oh my god! what's wrong with Aaman?
42 - Dave Nalle
As I pointed out in my deleted comment, the personal attack was the most telling thing I've seen to suggest that he's not actually Goldberg.
Waiting for the photos...
Dave
43 - gonzo marx
only if you think it was funny Temple..no worries, was not that good a joke
Excelsior!
44 - Eric Olsen
this is certainly interesting
45 - Temple Stark
Have you guys never heard about "Not feeding the trolls?"
Stop with the caviar and lox. They are just laughing at you.
46 - gonzo marx
but..if folks stop feeding the trolls
how will i eat?
that cruel man..just cruel, one might think you were from texas or something
Excelsior!
47 - christina ricci
is 'trolls' some kind of computer term for pranksters? help me out here, dave.
i am 5 feet tall and if it's not, i don't appreciate the comment.
48 - Aaman
On another note, we do need a pda version of bc-my computer is disabled and I am finding it hard going:)
gonzo sign me up for the fact-finding mission ;)
49 - swingingpuss
No, A, we need a second PC:)
50 - gonzo marx
"christina"...in this sense a "troll" is a person that haunts message boars or forums, mostly trying to stir up trouble
in some olde skewl senses, a "troll" can also mean just someone that has been around the boarsds for a long time, keeps an eye on them, and comments a lot
i fall into both categories, but i have a tendency to make some folks laugh , so they tolerate me
hope that helps...
and by all means, yiou can send me all the pics you like..
/drool
Excelsior!
51 - christina ricci
Eeewwww.
but, thanks for explaining.
52 - gonzo marx
heh...no problem, glad to elucidate
Excelsior!
53 - gonzo marx
yep..it's them...too funny
and hey, i have seen a physician about the whole drool thing..but there is just no helping it
unfortunarely Adam, you fall into the same category as John Stamos...meaning i don't even notice, cuz yer better half is just that much better...
i joke..i kid...i Jest
but somebody has to say when the emperor is nekkid
Excelsior!
54 - ag
hmm..quiet...too quiet...
where are all the crow eaters. please don't leave us all alone with the perverts.
55 - ag
p.s. look for I LOVE YOUR WORK this fall, released by ThinkFilm.
You might also enjoy Head Cases on Fox, 9 p.m. Wednesdays.
56 - MDE
re: "where are all the crow eaters"
trying to figure out how to (del) eat their words I suspect.
Mark
57 - gonzo marx
hey now..pervert?
geeez...
you know the difference between being kinky and being perverted?
being kinky you use a feather
being perverted, you use the whole chicken
i'm here all week kiddies..
Excelsior!
58 - Dave Nalle
>On another note, we do need a pda version of bc-my computer is disabled and I am finding it hard going:)<<
BC works fine on my PDA, although I have to scroll left and right. What kind do you have, Aaman?
Dave
59 - ag
From: Temple Stark
To: <
Date: Sat Jul 09, 2005 09:09:07 PM PDT
Subject: Crazy mofo's
Why would you send such a terrible picture?
- Temple
- Temple Stark
THIS IS THE E-MAIL YOUR SUPREME MODERATOR (achtung!) SENT.
WELL, perhaps it's less about vanity then it is about justice. Furthermore don't you all find it intersting that a defamatory comment -- an inncocuous and petulant quip on my part about his journalistc career is subject to his ediotrial iron fist---BENEATH A BANNER ON A BLOG HE PRESUMABLY ADMINISTRATES WHICH READS BOLDLY: "ACTOR ADAM GOLDBERG HAS DRUG-INDUCED MELTDOWN ON IFC."
well god bless free speech, huh stark....when it suits the salacious gossip you support, that is.
60 - Dave Nalle
What's so terrible about the picture? Inquiring minds want to know.
Dave
61 - MDE
IMO - The capricious use of the editorial delete function throughout this thread threatens BC's integrity.
Mark
62 - Aaman
a Dell axim, Dave, and I'm talking abt a lean mobile version ,like instapundit and the bbc and msnbc, etc- scrolling is one aspect
63 - Eric Olsen
We humbly accept the authenticity of Adam and Christina's identities - sorry for the assumptions, mischaracterizations and misinformation.
Please understand we get an awful lot of people claiming to be well-known personalities, who are in fact, not.
But we also get enough celebrities who are who they say they are that we should not automatically assume that people aren't who they say they are. Sorry and thanks
64 - H.W. Saxton
After I first read this post I thought it smacked a bit of racism but didn't pursue it.The victim of Ceruleans slander:"A.G.",it seems, felt the same way. I'm glad to see my intuitive sense is not off the mark by much. IMO these type of posts, filled with unfounded rumors,unprofessional speculation and harmful and untrue gossip are just plain nonsense and there isn't much use OR need for them. That's what the tabloids are for right?
65 - uao
Cerulean:
Since you are an often published magazine author, with a cover story, and even a poetry award (did you have to buy a poetry anthology to win it), you probably don't need this advice, but I offer it anyway, because train wrecks embarrass me.
I don't post news articles here, but I do post music articles. My articles aren't about anyone's private life, but about music.
I always fact check, but I make mistakes. The worst one so far was identifying the wrong guy as a band's manager (the real manager hangs out here at this site, it turned out); there was also the time when I gave the wrong title for an album, and commented a band was from the west coast when it was from Chicago.
I got caught each time. Man, was it embarrassing. I hate making mistakes, it makes me look like a boob.
The most embarrassment I had was when I spelled a musician's name wrong. He showed up right here to let me know. He was pretty pissed off at first, not just for the name, but for some other things that were off.
I apologized and fixed the info, and he was satisfied, and we "shook hands" so to speak, and that was that.
*Here's the part about you:
Spelling a name wrong is one thing. Accusing sombebody in a news item title that appears in Google search engines accusing them of drug melt-downs is entirely another.
A number of regular and trusted Blogcritics members gently tried to point out this to you (as well as the Jewish comments), and you just weren't getting it. They tried again, and you got defensive and started putting stuff in your post that makes it seem a little, well, crazy.
--Remember, this is a post that appears in Google news--
Finally, the target of your article leaves a very calm reply (were it me, I'd be screaming bloody murder)
Rather than apologizing and removing the article (the decent thing to do) you attempt to "trace" them???
Are you psycho, or what?
And I often surf using a proxy server myself. If you traced me (assuming you could; I see no IP's posted here), it might tell you I'm in Bahrain. I'm not.
I was embarrassed for you, now I'm just agog.
Sorry to ag and cr. Might be time to get someone to trace Cerulean?
--Apologies to everyone else for ranting, but I've learned a lot about how critical it is to have your facts right even on minor things when real people are involved. And if something potentially career ruining is involved, then you had better have reams of documentation. Else, save the gossip for your neighbors.
66 - Dave Nalle
With all the editing, I seem to have missed something. Apparently Eric and Gonzo both saw somethng which proved AG and Christina were the real McCoy. Fascinating stuff, but how can we lowly folks view the same evidence?
Dave
67 - gonzo marx
there was a link to a mac site that had a pic from a camera phone up on it last night, Mr Nalle
the photo was candid, and exactly as they described it was going to be...
"proof" enough for yours truly
that's all i can say on the matter
Excelsior!
68 - Dave Nalle
Hey, now that we've made contact with AG and CR - even if under such dubious circumstances - shouldn't we, in pennance, interview one or both of them for BC and do something to promote AG's forthcoming indie movie which I believe he wrote, directed and stars in?
Dave
69 - Temple Stark
We just did pennance.
Adn I guess this answers our question whether our opinion pieces show up in Google news or not.
70 - gonzo marx
oh boy..Temple got a spanking!!!
did they use a hot waffle iron?
i look forward to reading the piece, Temple...no worries , it was an easily understandable error
all feet are made of clay
Excelsior!
71 - Dave Nalle
This whole little event would make a fascinating story. If I had all the info I'd write it myself, but lacking it, I'll leave it to others. Whoever does write it should do some research on the history of the blog created to cover the filming of I Love Your Work - that is a fascinating story in and of itself.
The fact that two medium-level hollywood types would find a gossipy fan article like this and bother to respond and do so from a reasonable perspective is a reminder that hollywood folks are still real people, and that they care about their work - and image is part of it - and are willing to be proactive to promote and protect it on the web without going through lawyers, flacks or being jerks. Showing up here certainly earns them a great deal of respect in my book.
Dave
72 - Temple Stark
If they - ag or cr - are still reading, then may I offer the advice that you not send pictures that can be accessed at your site.
Why? Well I removed the link here at a very busy site because had a person followed the link - like I did - they would have also been able to access files under "Ag and the musicians" that said, "SCOTT," "for sweet pal." "jacquie:fox music" and more - almost all music files, which I assume are all unreleased music files of yours.; inlcuding what looked like 100MB files of masters for the "I Love Your Work" soundtrack.
(I can still access them, you may want to change this)
As EricO said, we get a lot of impersonators and my e-mail which you reprinted was still sent with the idea in mind that you could or could not be impersonators.
Sorry for the episode here. We are not the only ones to hold such opinions, for opinions they are and were.
Also, I didn't know any of those e-mails got through. I tried 10 different varieties and got back many error messages and you had said you did not leave your real e-mail so I was just guessing.
Guess I'm a good guesser.
73 - Aaron, Duke De Mondo
well i feel it only fair to say The Opposite Of Sex played a large (well, reasonable. not THAT embaressing) part in my late-teens.
74 - Dave Nalle
Access to all those files sure is definitive proof, though. Maybe you should explain changing directory permissions to him. It's pretty simple if he has a Mac.
Dave
75 - Dave Nalle
Don't suppose someone would forward a copy of the 'candid' picture - my daughter is desperate to see it. This is the first thing which has actually gotten her interested in BC and gotten her to stop scoffing at blogs as a whole. Someone could even email it to me at dave@diablog.us
Dave