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I know somewhere, some wise-ass will want to take issue, but it can be reasonably argued that electric guitar is the cornerstone of rock and roll.  It's not the only element and it doesn't have to be the most important element, but if you wanted to "explain" rock and roll to someone, you might just play them an electric guitar riff.

I bring that up because isn't it funny that the Beatles, arguably the greatest rock band of all time, weren't a great guitar band?  They weren't, and I say this as someone who will tell you George Harrison is his favorite Beatle without a trace of irony.  I like the "lead guitarist" of a band that didn't know what to do with a lead guitarist most of the time.  The "best" Beatles guitar solo might have been the one Eric Clapton provided on Harrison's "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," all of which suggests George was more than just a lead guitarist in the band.

I bring this up because I just got done listening to "Day Tripper," which has one of the Beatles' finest, most memorable riffs.  It's like the Beatles go metal!  Okay, so it's not.  "Revolution" gets us closer to that.  "Revolution" is loud and distorted and that's cool.  "Day Tripper" has that memorable, snarling lead that McCartney mostly mimics on bass. 

The Beatles have a lot of great songs that are great for any number of reasons.  They don't have many that are great because of their guitar work.  "Day Tripper" is one of them.

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  • http://jonsobel.com/ Jon Sobel

    Somewhat related: I always found it interesting that most of the greatest foundational rock bands had a lead singer who was just a singer. Rolling Stones, Zeppelin, the Doors, the Who, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Queen. I guess this means vocals are just as fundamental as guitar… the Beatles are actually an exception, in that sense.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Interesting point, Jon. Where would the Rolling Stones be without Mick or the Doors without Jim Morrison?

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Dire Straits might be another counterexample.

  • Kit O’Toole

    Josh, being the “Beatlesgeek,” I have to comment on this! Yes, “Daytripper” is a wonderful example of how a guitar riff can power a song. But I disagree that The Beatles aren’t known for their guitar work–just check out “Taxman” off Revolver, the “Yer Blues” jam on the White Album (an extended jam on bootleg is even better), and the fantastic guitar duel on “The End,” to name but a few examples. The closest the Beatles ever got to metal was “Helter Skelter,” which Paul McCartney wanted to make the “loudest, dirtiest” song The Beatles ever recorded, particularly since he had been listening to The Who at the time. Just my 2 cents. :-)

  • http://theglenblog.blogspot.com Glen Boyd

    Better throw Paperback Writer into this mix while were at it…

    -Glen

  • http://everythingisamess.wordpress.com Tom Johnson

    GREAT song! Way, way back when, long before I knew all that much about the Beatles, I couldn’t figure out where the hell this song came from. It wasn’t on any of the albums. Totally confused. Then, of course, I discovered Past Masters 2. And then it quickly rose to be among my very favorite Beatles releases.

    (And “Paperback Writer,” holy crap, what a killer song. I am convinced a good portion of “indie” rock couldn’t exist without this one song alone. It’s structure and style seem to have formed the basis for so much that passes for that ill-termed genre.)

  • http://everythingisamess.wordpress.com Tom Johnson

    Ha, Glen, we are sharing a brain. I was writing this, got stopped by a coworker asking some questions, and then finished up to that you beat me to the punch.

  • zingzing

    jon, i’m sure you could come up with plenty of examples that go against your argument. i guess if you’re being strict about the word “band,” as opposed to artist (in which case elvis would lead your list), you might have a point, but your list is pretty selective, and plays loose with the term “foundational.” if van halen makes the list, then so do the stooges, new york dolls, sex pistols, etc.

    then again, the velvet underground (and the beatles) had a guitar-playing lead man, so that pretty much takes care of your “foundational” argument. bam! joosta lika dat! as far as rock bands go, there aren’t any more important.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    How about The Kinks?

    And while they did have some fantastic bits, the Beatles aren’t consider a great guitar band outside of Beatles geekdom. The guitar parts rarely stood out from the arrangements. Maybe the remasters and video game will change that view.

  • http://www.confessionsofafanboy.com Josh Hathaway

    I’m not saying the band had zero good guitar moments, but guitar isn’t what they’re famous for or the first thought that comes to mind with The Beatles’ music. “Paperback” is another great, great example and one I thought about as I wrote this.

    Interesting notion, Jon. I hadn’t thought about the number of bands who had singers that were primarily and/or exclusively singers but there were many of them.

  • zingzing

    the beatles are definitely not remembered primarily for their guitars. and thank god for it. they were a much more complete band. they had a good guitarist (or three), but they never showed off just for showing off. it was their songwriting and ideas that make them so special. virtuoso guitarists are a dime a dozen. true genius is not. two geniuses, maybe a third, is once in a lifetime.

    luckily, i wasn’t around when they were, so we’ve got another one coming… when those of you that were around when they were are no longer around. so get to dying already, because i’m impatient. lalala.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    What are you? An eighteen-year old lad?

  • zingzing

    no, just born after 1970.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, then you’ve seen Beatles live.

  • http://donaldgibson.blogspot.com/Gre Donald Gibson

    A couple electric guitar-heavy favorites — as a whole ‘nother column could comprise acoustic-driven songs: “She Said, She Said,” “Birthday,” “I Want You (She’s So Heavy),” “Get Back,” and “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.”

  • http://donaldgibson.blogspot.com/Gre Donald Gibson

    In reference to Jon’s point, a few of his examples — particularly Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison, and Steven Tyler — are their respective group’s primary songwriters (certainly in the context of lyrics). So while, on stage, they often serve(d) the sole function of a lead singer, they’re primary sources of the songs themselves.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Interesting that you mention “Get Back,” Donald, because the first thing that comes to my mind with that song is the horns.

    Not sure you can make the case that the lyrics are always the primary source of the songs.

  • zingzing

    roger: “Well, then you’ve seen Beatles live.”

    i have, on tape… other than that i’m rather confused as to what you’re getting at.

    i just want my parents’ generation to die. nothing more. (smiley)

    and donald–i want you is one of my favorite beatles songs. the formal qualities of it are just so amazing. they understood what made a song a song, and how to deconstruct it. everything about that song is takes itself apart. amazing.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Shoot, zing. You’re mature for your age but you’re still a kid. I was in the graduate school when you were born. So must kind of wish it was dead too.

  • zingzing

    i’m not mature for my age. i’m 30 and still messing with college girls. total man-child. i dunno if i can handle a woman my age (because i’ve never tried). i’ll grow up one day. but life is life and music is music and i understand music. life, not so much. but i have the best music taste you’ve ever seen (if you’re me).

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, then I don’t feel too bad because I, too, am still messing with college girls when I can.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    i’m not mature for my age. i’m 30 and still messing with college girls. total man-child

    I’ll keep that in mind the next time I see one of your comments and, as my neighbor says when dismissing the remarks of her retarded daughter, “consider the source”. Not that you’re retarded, of course….

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Roger, at your age, messing with college girls might well be considered an accomplishment – or robbing the cradle….

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    What I said, Ruvy, when I can. Espeically since zing is so eager to kill off my generation, I wouldn’t want him to think I’m a fuzzy daddy.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Zing is probably eager to kill off my generation, too, Roger – especially me…. ;o))

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, I hope is just kidding.

  • zingzing

    bah. don’t want to kill of your generation.

    i’m glad that you’ll die off… but that’s nothing personal. best generation yet, except for us. some of us, anyway.

    i just want another beatles. but music is too fragmented for them to really come around again.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    I’d settle for another Monkees at this point. Harumph!

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    I’d settle for another Monkees at this point.

    O! How the mighty have fallen! Tell it not in Gaza (wait, that’s another thread…)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “best generation yet, except for us. some of us, anyway.”

    No it ain’t, zingie. You missed the Beatles and you missed the sixties.

    There’ll never be a time like that in American history. You can only imagine.

  • zingzing

    ahh, rose-colored glasses. i can only imagine? you can only recall. and if what they say is true (and it never is), you weren’t there either.

    also, i’ve probably experienced the beatles as much as you have. maybe not on the day it came out, etc, etc, but no one’s experienced that since the day it came out.

    all that said, false nostalgia for the 60s leaves a bad taste in my mouth (called the 70s).

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    You’re missing the point. You’re missing the context. Everything was in sync, music, lyrics, the times.

    And you can’t even speak of the seventies as leaving a bad taste in your mouth – you weren’t even born.

    So yes, you’ve missed it all, but I don’t hold it against you. You’re still turning out to be alright.

  • zingzing

    “You’re missing the context. Everything was in sync, music, lyrics, the times.”

    that’s the way it always is. things don’t exist outside of their context.

    “And you can’t even speak of the seventies as leaving a bad taste in your mouth – you weren’t even born.”

    well, i wasn’t being literal. the 70s are the aftertaste of the 60s, the time/place brought on by the 60s. and i think the malaise that produced the late 70s punk boom created far better music than the hippies/swinging london ever did. so i can look back to a time i didn’t exist in, note the general suckiness of it, but see something great arise from that suck, thus producing the period of music i was born into, which is obviously the best that ever was or will be. until they drop the bomb.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I didn’t mean to suggest, BTW, you can’t have a feel for the times you haven’t experienced. If such were the case, we couldn’t interpret history.

    Sixties was a mixed bag – musically and otherwise, a crucible. That’s how I see it. So yes, it gave rise to better works (and worse). But perhaps works of art should be subject to a time-table, unless they’re aspiring to be avant garde. (Does Andy Warhol’s work have the same meaning today when they did then? And if they do, is there anything that had been lost? What? The immediate identification with the times? They’re surely memorialized, but is it the same?)

    The relationship between art, popular culture, and the state of society, is an interesting one and definitely worth pursuing. You might want to look at Theodore Roszak’s work (made famous by “The Making of a Counter-Culture”), but he had written since. Also at Marshall McLuhan.

    You do seem to have good feel for music, so perhaps you might want to devote some time to making the necessary connections and write an article or two. It’d certainly be a change of pace from the kind of daily diet we’re accustomed to in the BC Politics section.

    And no – you don’t want to kill off my generation, at least me in any case. I’m here to keep you straight and free from error.

    And now, God bless you, my son.

  • Josh Hathaway

    Mental note: never write about The Beatles ever again. Feel free to continue.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Zing,

    I didn’t mean to be obtuse. If you want me to clarify, just say so.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    You know what I find interesting? I agree that rock is guitar-driven – in fact, it’s arguable that a pop song without any guitar in it isn’t rock (Eleanor Rigby?).

    Still, the primary means of identifying a band is through the singer. The voices of Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison, Robert Plant, Roger Daltrey all made their bands instantly recognisable.

    But how many rock guitarists have a sound so distinctive that you can instantly recognise who’s playing? I can only think of two: Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Good point. Perhaps in the final analysis, it has all got to the do with the lyrics – the message.

    Come to think of it, all music is dumb (if it’s bereft of the message, that is!)

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Jimi Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, David Gilmour

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Forgot about Hendrix, El B. Have to give you that one.

    Not sure about the other two.

  • zingzing

    johnny marr (at least in the smiths), prince, keith levine, kevin shields, the guys from bedhead, bernard sumner, steve albini, blixa bargeld (at least in einsturzende neubauten), doug marsch, blahblahblah…

  • zingzing

    and roger, i do get your point, but i balk at nostalgia. and i have written in the music section before. a few i’m pretty proud of, but there are a few where you can tell i’m just in fanboy mode.

  • http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=463156 JC Mosquito

    Nope – I think maybe zing’s just looking for intellligent conversation, and finds it here (most of the time). I suspect most of us are not quite old enough to be zing’s Mum or Dad, so it’s OK – it’s not like we’re talking liberation politics or rollin’ doobies in front of the kidz or anything.

    And zing, you know I often concur with your taste, except for those non-commercial gems you find laying about, just because I don’t know them. I don’t have as much time for that as I once did, but truly, I really did for the longest time. I remember hearing about but not actually hearing the Stooges, and then I bought Iggy Pop’s the Idiot, and I thought – this doesn’t sound like rock n roll at all – but it’s still cool.

    You’re all cool here on bc. We’re all cool because we ae a sinister cabal of superior writers…………… whatever that means.

  • zingzing

    jc: “Nope – I think maybe zing’s just looking for intellligent conversation, and finds it here (most of the time).”

    in the music section, that’s mostly true. although half of my time spent here is battling off the “the 60s were the greatest era for music” malarkey. so i guess i’m here more for an argument than strictly “intelligent conversation.”

    “And zing, you know I often concur with your taste, except for those non-commercial gems you find laying about, just because I don’t know them. I don’t have as much time for that as I once did, but truly, I really did for the longest time.”

    variety is the spice of life. and those gems are littering the floor. just gotta go pick one up.

    “I remember hearing about but not actually hearing the Stooges, and then I bought Iggy Pop’s the Idiot, and I thought – this doesn’t sound like rock n roll at all – but it’s still cool.”

    it’s like rock n roll put out at night to cool, then a giant slug rolls over it, leaving a smear. no sane person wants to touch it, but you gotta get it back somehow. still, you hold it delicately and far away from your face until you can wash it off.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    zing,

    I’m not for nostalgia. I’m just into today as you are, so don’t attribute false feelings to me.

    PS: Disregard my last post or two. I don’t even remember posting.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    Good point. Perhaps in the final analysis, it has all got to the do with the lyrics – the message.

    that’s crazy talk

    Come to think of it, all music is dumb (if it’s bereft of the message, that is!)

    that’s crazy talk squared!

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    But how many rock guitarists have a sound so distinctive that you can instantly recognise who’s playing? I can only think of two: Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton.

    seriously?

    Jerry Garcia
    Keith Richards
    David Gilmour
    Mark Knopfler
    Frank Zappa
    Robert Fripp
    Adrian Belew
    Ted Nugent
    Tony Iommmi
    Jeff Beck

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    You’re certainly not a classicist, Saleski, for all the musical knowledge you seem to exude. Before any music qua music, there was always a spoken voice – such as in the Greek chorus. The spoken voice, rhythm and cadedence, along with (some dancing) were the essential elements of “music.” The separation of music from voice came way, way later.

    So I suggest you had better get educated first before coming off with your snarly and immature comments.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    “music is too fragmented for them to really come around again.”

    reflection of the times, zing, that’s all.
    I’ve told you, write an article,

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    So I suggest you had better get educated first before coming off with your snarly and immature comments.

    and i suggest you get that large arthropod removed from your posterior.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    So yes, you’re just another one of those music commentators who knows it all.

    At last we’ve found out.

  • zingzing

    roger: “So I suggest you had better get educated first before coming off with your snarly and immature comments.”

    woah, boy. hold up a moment. i think you misinterpret mr. saleski’s intention.

    we’re talking about pop music here, not the music of the spheres. so don’t get up on any high horses… it’s just music. and if you were to tell me you like the grateful dead, i’d tell you that you were an idiot, but i wouldn’t really mean it. fuckin dumb band. fuck led zepplin too. gawd. such crap.

    have you ever heard of the dylanist vs. enoist argument? dylan, of course, puts lyrics above music (although that’s a reductive argument, to say the least–and it has more to do with that artist’s fans than it does the artist him/herself), while the enoist (named for brian eno, a sound wizard, who, when he did use lyrics, wrote them totally at the mercy of the music, “whatever sounds good, even if it doesn’t make sense,”) values music over lyrics.

    it’s more what you listen to first. i, for instance, am an enoist. i don’t give two shits about lyrics if the music isn’t great (although the vocal melody has a lot to do with that), and rarely even pay attention to lyrical content if the musical elements don’t pique my interest. if, after i’m on board musically, the lyrics are something grand, it’s an added attraction, to varying degrees. all that said, i don’t like a lot of purely instrumental music. even bands that have unintelligible vocals usually trump that have none for me.

    but, it’s never one way or the other–it’s not “the message” that i’m after most of the time, but to call it “dumb” (and do say that after saying “the message” is all-important…) is to miss the point. music trumps speech because it adds musical qualities to whatever message comes out. speech is a boring version of music, i guess. (and there are examples of great lyrics that are so grand that it doesn’t matter how shit the music is. although i can’t think of any right now. usually someone smart enough to write such incredible lyrics can write music as well. i wish i could write music. that would be soooooo awesome.)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Whatever. By his last comment, and the previous one as well, he showed his true colors [personal attack deleted]. Do you want me to give a fuck?

    So now, let’s talk intelligently.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I would if he were an imbecile. But if he were an imbecile, I’d treat him accordingly – which is to say, with respect. Being that he is not, but has all the requisite pretensions, I’ll say it again – fuck him.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    c’mon roger, be a man! call me an asshole. it’s ok. that you don’t get my intent and proceed to throw down this silly classicist gauntlet? sorry, you’ve missed the point.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I just did in case you missed it.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    But that’s OK, Mark. I don’t hold grudges. So I can forget this one if you will.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    gawd, as if we needed it, further proof that the bc politics section sours humanity.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Sure it does. I guess this was an unwarranted crossover.

  • zingzing

    me: “music is too fragmented for them to really come around again.”

    roger: “reflection of the times, zing, that’s all. I’ve told you, write an article.”

    and i told you i already did write an article (or 8). but not about this. this doesn’t need an article.

    think of it this way. if you’re just going to talk about rock music, think of 1954 as year zero. you have country and you have r&b/blues. they sit up top and there are two lines drawn from each that reach down and end at “rock n roll.” it pretty much sits there for a few years, with a few little micro-genres popping up.

    in the early 60s, the beatles, phil specter and beach boys come around and things start to open up. the family tree of rock starts to blossom. it breaks off in many directions during the 60s, but really explodes towards the end of the 70s. it’s exponential. hundreds of little genres show up. in the last 30 years, those have grown to thousands.

    just this year, a couple of genres that have shown up. one has been one coined “shitgaze,” referring to a lo-fi (referencing a late-80s american movement), shoegazing (referencing an early-90s british movement), girl-group (60s american, but revived 80s uk), guitar-driven pop.

    another is called “glo-fi,” referring to this sunny kind of dance music that recalls balearic (spanish/british sound from the early 90s featuring a rolling drum sound), but driven more by indie rock ideas from the us/uk, much more song-oriented than the usual dance music.

    i bring those up to point out that there is no central point in the spectrum. the beatles inhabited, and expanded, that central point. rock music has expanded to such a point that there will never be a band that can encompass it all again. to do so, you’d have to make a white album that stretched from here to the south pole. it’s just not possible to cover rock music the way they were able to anymore. it’s far too broad.

  • zingzing

    jeez, roger… mark’s a nice guy. he may have been a bit snarky, but it was just an opinion about music. i remember the time i seriously got in a fist fight based on “the who vs. led zepp.” felt like an idiot about that one for a good decade now.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Get your point, zing. But you yourself speak of “unfractured” music – a kind of longing for integration? And surely, we can’t hold pop to the same standards. Still, the idea of work of art implies a meaning, an intended meaning. Otherwise, why do it? It’s ornamental without meaning.

    So perhaps I did not discern Mark’s intent. But he had attacked the proposition outright, as though without merit.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I realize that, zing, and I believe I’m making amends. What more do you want me to do?

    I won’t kiss ass unless I look at it first. So I can’t do it online.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    Still, the idea of work of art implies a meaning, an intended meaning. Otherwise, why do it? It’s ornamental without meaning.

    so do you think the idea of a melody (or often an improvised piece of music) “telling a story” is without merit? a great example, using the human voice as the instrument, is the singing on Pink Floyd’s “The Great Gig In The Sky”.

    i bring this up because i’m really more in zing’s camp with regard to lyrics. words are sufficient for imparting meaning, but not necessary.

    i guess what i’m saying is that there’s more than one way to look at this.

  • zingzing

    roger: “Get your point, zing. But you yourself speak of “unfractured” music – a kind of longing for integration?”

    nah. it’ll never happen again. and that’s a good thing. sure, i’d love it if a band as universal as the beatles showed up, but that’s not gonna happen in any recognizable fashion.

    “Still, the idea of work of art implies a meaning, an intended meaning. Otherwise, why do it? It’s ornamental without meaning.”

    good music has its own meaning. even instrumental music, without an explicit message, can move one to tears. just because it’s so damn good. music is essential, even if it is ornamental.

    “But he had attacked the proposition outright, as though without merit.”

    that’s the way music arguments go. arguing about something that is purely subjective doesn’t have the same rules.

    “I realize that, zing, and I believe I’m making amends. What more do you want me to do?”

    just make nice. it’s no big deal. just music. even if mark says he likes led zepplin, i’ll call him a “fuckin dumb redneck piece of shit” or something, but he’ll know that i don’t really care that much. fuck led zepplin and drop the bomb on their fans. assholes.

  • zingzing

    roger: “I won’t kiss ass unless I look at it first.”

    ew, i only kiss ass with my eyes closed and my nose turned away.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Cool. How can I argue against Beethoven or Mahler? In fact, “muse,” from which the term music comes from, is the queen of the arts.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    You mean you don’t even wipe it? Just kidding.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Zing, trying to think of the last hit single, I think by Kinks but I may be wrong. Tremendous lyrics – the conservative talk-show hosts were raving about it. Some line in it about the King/s (and not standing up for tyranny). Came up about a year ago.

    Can you think of it?

  • zingzing

    the kinks? i haven’t heard anything out of them since the mid-90s. i could have missed it.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I know it’s not the Kings. Another British group by a similar, short name.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    There go my misspellings.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    PS: Disregard my last post or two. I don’t even remember posting.

    i seriously got in a fist fight based on “the who vs. led zepp.”

    and i suggest you get that large arthropod removed from your posterior.

    This thread is hiLaRiOUs!

    Freakin’ men! Ha! Thank god you were invented or women would have nothing to laugh so hard at! Now you’ll all probably buy each other a beer! (or whatever it is you drink)

    This guy has it right: “Mental note: never write about The Beatles ever again. Feel free to continue.”

  • zingzing

    cindy, the world of men is constant hilarity. but right now, i wish women had never been invented. gawd.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    OK, Cindy. When I woke up, I thought it was AM. Then I was rudely awakened.

  • zingzing

    ahh, but one text message later, and i love women again… what a difference a minute makes.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Or a second, zing, especially when it’s a climax. Although even there women have an edge – call it multiple or prolonged.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Got it, zing. It’s Uprising by Muse. And here’s the lyrics:

    Paranoia is in bloom,
    The PR transmissions will resume,
    They’ll try to push drugs that keep us all dumbed down,
    And hope that we will never see the truth around
    (So come on)
    Another promise, another scene,
    Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed,
    And all the green belts wrapped around our minds,
    And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
    (So come on)

    They will not force us,
    They will stop degrading us,
    They will not control us,
    We will be victorious
    (So come on)

    Interchanging mind control,
    Come let the revolution take it’s toll,
    If you could flick a switch and open your third eye,
    You’d see that
    We should never be afraid to die
    (So come on)

    Rise up and take the power back,
    It’s time the fat cats had a heart attack,
    You know that their time’s coming to an end,
    We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

    They will not force us,
    They will stop degrading us,
    They will not control us,
    We will be victorious

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Cindy,

    You’ll like it too.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    Muse…funny, that’s what i’m listening to and writing about at this very minute.

  • zingzing

    hrm. i know muse. don’t like them too much. bombastic stadium rock wrapped up in prog pretensions. “big” music. i have to admit i’ve not given them much of a chance. i’ll give the song a listen, but i can’t promise i’ll like it.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, it’s not as energetic as “We Are The Champions,” but I do like the lyrics.

  • http://marksaleski.com Mark Saleski

    well, just for fun, you can read my reviews of Absolution and Black Holes and Revelations

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Freakin’ men! Ha! Thank god you were invented or women would have nothing to laugh so hard at!

    Ug! Man strong! Man make war! Man hunt! Man protect village! Man impress woman by arguing over which obscure indie band make better music!

    Ug!

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Me Tarzan, You Jane.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    You’re good, Dreadful. Always an eye for the comical.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    uh oh…If I were you I’d run Dr.D….er Jane.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Cindy, Dr. D is too polite; I’m certain he doesn’t care for it. Either call him Doc or Dreadful.

    Since “Doc” is too familiar, I made that mistake once, “Dreadful” is the name. But anyways, rebellion is against stupidity – not necessarily against any generation.

  • zingzing

    doc: “Man impress woman by arguing over which obscure indie band make better music!”

    you’re damn right. try it sometime. get you a nice indie chick.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Come to think of it, Cindy, you’re right. Neither “Doc” nor “Dreadful” would be the proper form of address – for you. So “Dr. D” is perfect.

    Funny, the online protocol.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    So that’s how you’re getting all those college girls, zing. Now the truth is out.

  • zingzing

    and roger, i watched the video for that song. maybe i’m jaded. or not jaded enough. i dunno.

    as far as political agit-prop goes, i’ll take it from gang of four. go check out “i love a man in uniform.” makes fun of the whole thing while making its point.

    and if that doesn’t do it for you, crass will certainly be radical enough for you. nasty, nasty stuff there. anarchy!

  • zingzing

    nah, the college chicks are just attracted to my southun chaums. and huge genitals. yay! me! actually, it’s more because that’s all i try for, it seems… which may explain why i am unmarried. i am my own worst enemy.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Okay, Roger, if you say so. lol I am very happy to know that since I call him Dr.D, I’ve been doing the right thing. :-)

    (btw, yes, I think though I was only thinking about parents and kids there…sorry to not have told you my mind was wandering…and now my body will be wandering off to partake of the next chapter in our Spenser book on CD…nite nite)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I will. Of course, there’s a long tradition, starting with “the Revolution,” perhaps. But that’s not really the song I had in mind. There was another one, and I still think it was by the Kinks, where they message was kind of subtle but poignant nonetheless. I have it stored in my hard drive somewhere, so I’ll share it when I find it.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    OK, Cindy.

  • zingzing

    roger, if #95 was for me, you might be thinking of “revolution #1″ by the beatles, but i’d think of that message as anything but subtle. i’d think of it as confused. (but still kick ass.)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Yes, the Beatles. But that’s not the song I meant.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    But now I’m trying to think of an even bigger ass-kicker — was it “Hello Vietnam,” or something like that – it goes chu chung, chu chung. Any help, zing?

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    zing, talking about the times.

  • http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=463156 JC Mosquito

    FYI – 1994 – To the Bone – the last great Kinks’ tune.

  • http://theglenblog.blogspot.com Glen Boyd

    Either the politics section has just entered the music building, or this is an article about Neil Young….

    -Glen

  • http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=463156 JC Mosquito

    Actually, it’s about Day Tripper’s guitar riff being capitalist propaganda masquerading as a socialist tool.

  • http://mizbviewsfromthetower.blogspot.com Jeanne Browne

    I’m a Beatles fan from when they were around, and proud to be part of the generation you wish dead. To tell you the truth, I think a lot of us wish we were dead, too, but that’s not an easy thing to accomplish: where the hell is a nice, simple, 007 cyanide pill when you need one?! But I gotta tell you, when I look back over my life, in between the regrets and self-recriminations and melancholy memories there is a wellspring of true pride and joy that I got to live at a time when certain Important People lived, and many of them are musicians. Whatever else may have happened, they — the Beatles chief among them — made the daytrip worthwhile.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Quoted for truth, Jeannie.

  • zingzing

    roger: “it goes chu chung, chu chung. Any help, zing?”

    heh. chu chung? i’ll have to take my time on that one.

    and if it’s not revolution #1, maybe it’s just plain old revolution, which is the more violent single version released before the white album.

  • zingzing

    jeanne “I’m a Beatles fan from when they were around, and proud to be part of the generation you wish dead.”

    one of us has to work on our sarcasm detection.