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TV Review: House, M.D. – “Transplant”

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Several transplants are at issue in last night’s House, M.D. episode, appropriately called “Transplant.” Of course there is the set of sick lungs sitting in an ICU box awaiting diagnosis and treatment before they can be transplanted into one of Wilson’s (Robert Sean Leonard) long-time patients. A recovering alcoholic, she had a double-mastectomy years earlier, and now has come down with emphysema.

She will die within a few days without a lung transplant. The good news is that there is a set of lungs from a motorcycle accident victim. The bad news is that there is something medically wrong with them, and before they can be used by the patient—or anyone else—someone has to find out what’s wrong. The worse news is that Princeton-Plainsboro’s best diagnostician Dr. Gregory House (Hugh Laurie) is still in prison.

Time has once again jumped, and we find House two months after the “Twenty Vicodin” incident only to learn that eight months have been tacked onto his sentence. Told that he has a visitor, Princeton-Plainsboro’s dean of medicine, House initially refuses the guest. Believing that this will be his recurrent nightmare come to life: a confrontation with Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein, now seen on The Good Wife). A year after he plowed his car into her dining room, House has no desire to finally come face to face with what he’s done. But he is surprised to learn his visitor is a “he,” not a “she.”

Enter the new Dean of Medicine…Dr. Eric Foreman (Omar Epps). He has a proposition for the incarcerated Dr. House—and a “get out of jail” (but not exactly free) card. Foreman has worked out a deal with a judge that will allow House to roam free in the hospital or his apartment, but not anywhere else.

Remaining chained to a prisoner-tracking device, House is now relegated to a cell-sized new office (without even a window). His old digs have been procured by the Orthopedics Department. And his old team is dispersed to who knows where. Chase (Jesse Spencer), Taub (Peter Jacobson) and 13 (Olivia Wilde) are nowhere to be seen—and, says Dean of Medicine Foreman, the hospital can’t afford to hire them back.

As for House, he’s back, but only earning minimum wage as a consultant, and his “team” is a medical resident—the diminutive, innocent-looking Dr. Chi Park (Charlyne Yi). She seems a meek little mouse—or more appropriately, in House’s hands, a lamb for the slaughter. Except for one thing. The little lamb had the cojones to have punched out her neurology boss after he’d groped her! On the other hand, she is too terrified to tell her parents. But as House learns, Dr. Park speaks her mind, and seems unafraid of her new boss. Transplanted to House’s team, we wonder at the start whether this will take, or whether she will run screaming to the University of Chicago to pursue a residency away from Princeton-Plainsboro.

House is a fish out of water, coming back to where his troubles began, but now more than a year since he’d last been there. With no office, no team—no Wilson, his movements restricted and on a very short chain, House is pretty lost. He roams the halls in search of the creature comforts he thinks he needs to tap into his own medical mojo. All that keeps him anchored is the case, and although he is somewhat physically hampered by restrictions on his movements, he manages to finally figure out what’s wrong with the lungs.

Like the lungs awaiting treatment to make them hospitable for the dying patient, House, too, tries to find a way to fit in to a place where he’d once felt comfortable and at home. His physical surroundings are altered—but his time away, and the reason for it hang over his head as he tries to find his way. Although this part of the story is not front and center (which is good), it is there, shading all of House’s (and everyone else’s) actions during the episode.

In season three, after Cuddy rescues House from a certain prison sentence (and equally certain loss of his medical license), she reminds him in “One Day, One Room” that she “owns his ass.” Get out of line, she tells him, fail to do clinic duty, fail to help her fund raise, teach, do anything she says, and House will be outed an face jail. But House has a quick response: Cuddy had perjured herself, and to out him is only to out herself. The threat is hollow. But, she when she uses the truth that House owes her personally, if not professionally, House understands, becoming at least moderately more compliant.

In “Transplant,” Foreman essentially tells House the same thing: break the law, act like a jerk, pretty much so anything that isn’t on the up and up—and it’s back to prison. However much less House respects Foreman than he had Cuddy’s authority (which wasn’t much—most of the time), Foreman really does own House. House is only on conditional parole—and that condition is tied to staying in Foreman’s good graces.

I’m curious about how the newly altered power structure of their relationship will play out over time. I hope (and am hopeful) that Foreman does not devolve into House’s Colonel Klink (from the ‘60s sitcom Hogan’s Heroes). I think a tensely symbiotic relationship between them could be a source of a compelling thread running through the background of season eight. Cuddy liked House; Foreman, particularly at this point, does not. I’m not even sure Foreman respects him very much.

On the other hand, no one much likes House at this point. Wilson has had a year to reconsider their friendship, and at least at the beginning of the episode, seems to have moved away from his co-dependent relationship with his best friend, rejecting his bid for a renewed friendship. Wilson’s wrist may be healed, but House has a long way to go I think before this relationship is fully repaired.

Wilson is the avatar for an audience that finds what House has done to be indefensible. Not only had House destroyed Cuddy’s home with his car, he has driven her completely, and permanently away. As House is told, Cuddy has moved out of town to take another position, leaving the day after the crash.

Even the naïve Dr. Park seems to have little respect for House. When House offers his worldly advice, she is unafraid to quickly bring up how little that advice is worth, reminding him of what he’d done last spring.

In the end, after House finally solves the mystery of the broken lungs and the transplant is successful, House’s own transplant back into Princeton-Plainsboro society begins to take hold. Rejection is no longer an option. Wilson can’t quite convince himself that House is no longer his friend, extending an olive branch (well, his arm, actually, in a semi-cathartic punch to House’s jaw). Foreman rewards House for his efforts by securing (at least part of) his old private office, and his “stuff,” which had been in storage. But only his name adorns the glass door, his rank as a director in the hospital heirarchy is conspicuously absent.

I found “Transplant” to be a solid transition episode, bringing House back into his “normal” environment. After a year away, House needs to be off kilter in every way but his reasoning and genius for connecting the dots. House is somewhat jarring to me in how little remorse he seems to show; but that is House. When he feels the most, is when he seems to feel the least. He pushes back to avoid confronting the emotions that exist just beneath the surface.

One of the problems I’d had with the last two seasons is that we’d seen sometimes seen too little of that—when it seemed most necessary. In “Transplant” we were privy to House’s thoughts; we observe his discomfort in settling in, fitting in, to his new role; his is in limbo. We understand when House ultimately concludes that he is really a bird in a cage—and awaiting a new judgment about whether his own transplant would take. We see it in his eyes, his body language.

It is interesting that Wilson never really brings up the “Moving On” crash—or Cuddy’s departure. And I understand that. I’m sure that (for now) part of House is happy that he doesn’t have to face either Cuddy—or the reality of his actions. And I think Wilson is likely sensitive to the notion that House isn’t ready to deal with that still-seeping wound quite yet. So a little avoidance…maybe not such a bad thing. I’m hopeful that the impact of “Moving On” won’t disappear too soon, and will frame at least the deep background of episodes to come as House navigates his newly altered reality.

I’m slightly disappointed that Wilson is so quick to resume their friendship—or is he? We don’t know the parameters of their relationship at this point—whether it will fall back into familiar territory or be fraught with new tensions. Back in season five, it takes five episodes before Wilson resumes the bromance. And although, Wilson is ready for dinner with him, I think it will be awhile until we see their friendship completely come full circle. Equally, as House’s old colleagues return to Princeton-Plainsboro, he will have to deal with their altered dynamics as well.

“Transplant” plants some interesting seeds for season eight’s story lines, I’m looking forward with excitement (and a little anxiety) to the fruit they will bear—just as I’m sure that House is excited to be back in the game, but likely fearful of what the future will bring him.

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About Barbara Barnett

Barbara Barnett is Publisher/Executive Editor of Blogcritics, (blogcritics.org). Her Bram Stoker Award-nominated novel, called "Anne Rice meets Michael Crichton," The Apothecary's Curse The Apothecary's Curse is now out from Pyr, an imprint of Prometheus Books. Her book on the TV series House, M.D., Chasing Zebras is a quintessential guide to the themes, characters and episodes of the hit show. Barnett is an accomplished speaker, an annual favorite at MENSA's HalloWEEM convention, where she has spoken to standing room crowds on subjects as diverse as "The Byronic Hero in Pop Culture," "The Many Faces of Sherlock Holmes," "The Hidden History of Science Fiction," and "Our Passion for Disaster (Movies)."
  • HouseMDFan

    Wow, there are quite a few things I disagree with, if you don’t mind.

    1. Foreman. I think he has A LOT of respect for House. Certainly professionally – why would he risk his own position by bringing him back otherwise? – and IMO also personally. The latter wasn’t the case for a long time, but that changed at least since he witnessed House’s outbreak in “Help Me”.

    2. That “still-seeping wound” as you call it. It’s not. That was the whole point of “Moving On”, to burn it closed so to speak. Of course, facing Cuddy again might bring some things back, but at this point, I don’t think that there is this big torment underneath, more like a lot of regret, and that’s not the same.

    3. Wilson. The rift between House and Wilson wasn’t half as deep this time as the one caused by Amber’s death. And seriously, how typical that Wilson’s own feeling are worth an in-depth comment only because he doesn’t mention Cuddy. And no, he is not an avatar for the audience, finding House’s action “indefensible”. Because HE DOESN’T. He just came to the (wrong) conclusion that the amount of bad outweighs the good in his friendship with House. Which, wait for it, doesn’t have anything to do with Cuddy. Wilson is his own person, and for once he OWNED that, by hitting House and then asking him out to dinner, making his own decision about what is good for him and what he needs in his life.

  • HouseMDFan

    Oh, in case that wasn’t obvious from my comment: I loved this episode, Foreman works strangely well as the new DOM, Wilson was great, House “wandering the halls” was great, the new doc very intriguing, and the actors who played the POTW and family really good. I’m also strangely happy that they are keeping the small roles straight, like Simpson, who has been around since season one. And YAY for seeing House think.

  • Ladidah

    Great review Barbara! I think Wilson probably finds the crash as hard to talk about as House does. I wonder if resuming the friendship with House feels like a betrayal of Cuddy (who was obviously traumatised enough by the crash to leave the hospital ‘her baby’). I actually think Wilson wasn’t actually so much angry this episode, but deeply hurt (perhaps feeling a bit of guilt as well as a bit of a blow to his ego at having no idea what House was going to do). And I imagine the 3 months in a tropical paradise probably hurt him worse than the car crash. I think in a way Wilson knew he was going to take House back from the beginning of the episode – as House pointed out it was probably his prompting that got Foreman to spring House out of jail, and however much he may have told himself it was for his patient, I doubt it was the only reason.

    I think we saw House’s guilt (if not remorse) for what happened in the jerky way he say ‘don’t need the details’ after learning Cuddy left. What we see this episode I think is House the survivalist, shutting out the feelings of guilt and abandonment and desperately (and perhaps somewhat selfishly) trying to cling on to whatever scraps of security he can find – his whiteboard, his ball, his best friend. He points out to Dr Parks how useless he thinks emotional freak outs are, and how much better to just focus o the moment at hand (and enjoy not being in jail). I wonder what will happen when the guilt over Cuddy catches up with him – or will he be able to out run it?

    What did you think of the new Duckling? I liked her a lot, I think she has a lot of promise as a character, and I liked that we got a sense of how deeply attached she is to her family. It will be interesting to see how House interacts with her in the future.

  • BrokenLeg

    First of all thank you Barbara for your review and article.

    Second, Bravo for using “cojones” to define braveness of little GH assistant, is very “graphical” and well used to a small and apparently fragile woman, although I believe non Spanish speaking people really do not understand it quite well (in your article context, in Spanish is not as offensive word as web translators can make understand…)

    Third, although I’m still processing the episode, I smell slides in it. For example, how was able Foreman to find GH, while in this last year nobody contacted him, nor he contacted nobody, nor even is former friend Wilson, nor 13 (who is in some kind of debt with him because he re-hired her , and that is able to understand his jail situation because she experienced it before).

    Fourth, although I’ve expected it, it’s sad to dispatch the absence of Cuddy with only one line in the episode. Really it shows clearly the way of thinking DS , PB and lately the writers had shown to fandom in interviews, as if she , Lisa Cuddy, or the actress, LE, were the real responsible ones of the turmoil that ”Moving On” Kaboom had generated ( that, at my eyes means total lack of self critic spirit)
    You say on your article: “It is interesting that Wilson never really brings up the “Moving On” crash—or Cuddy’s departure. And I understand that. I’m sure that (for now) part of House is happy that he doesn’t have to face either Cuddy—or the reality of his actions. And I think Wilson is likely sensitive to the notion that House isn’t ready to deal with that still-seeping wound quite yet. So a little avoidance…maybe not such a bad thing. I’m hopeful that the impact of “Moving On” won’t disappear too soon, and will frame at least the deep background of episodes to come as House navigates his newly altered reality.”
    I hope so. And I believe that seven seasons Cuddy’s role deserves a better closure than that single line in Foreman’s mouth. And GH needs to process it and confront it much clear than “Transplant” had shown.

    And I agree with 1@HouseMDfan about Wilson.

    Said that, for me “Transplant” was a quite good episode, medium-high level one. But very “housian”, although I hope more and better ones in the [H] future season.

  • HouseMDFan–I called it as I saw it. My opinion and your mileage may vary. House, IMHO, is carrying a lot unsaid. I don’t think he’s carrying a torch for Cuddy at all (unlike he’d carried for Stacy), and I think Wilson will move forward, but I also think he’s right if he treads lightly for now–and I think he will. It’s not about the “who” it’s about the “what” and what House did (and knowing the guilt he always carries) will weigh on him, and affect his relationships. That’s all I was saying.

    I don’t like House for what he did. I love the show, I loved the episode, but House hasn’t quite (as a character) quite won me back–again, it’s not the who, but what he did (ramming his car into a private home intentionally).

    I understand why he did it, and why he HAD to do it. I don’t applaud it.

  • Susan

    Before I read the review I wanted to ask why it’s not in the “Welcome to the End of the Thought Process” section……

  • Nickel

    Hi Barbara, personally I was hoping that it was House that severed the relationship with Wilson. Every time Wilson states that “House is a good doctor” (never acknowledging as to whether he is a good man-Pilot and again here), makes me really realize that Wilson does not quite comprehend who House is and exactly what House does for Wilson on a more personal level. It has always been my position that House has been a better friend to Wilson (and Cuddy, for that matter) than either of them has ever been to him. Yes, Cuddy kept House out of prison in season 3, however she NEVER once acknowledges, even for a moment, that basically it was her ethical lapse which ultimately put him on the path that he is currently on. Not to mention the fact that her “helping” him avoid jail was not only conditionally, but she also played a big part in putting him in the position of having to steal the medication to ease the pain he was in.

    I get that House wants to build this illusion of him being a sociopath, but seriously, Wilson should at least by now realize that House does feel things. I never once believed for a moment that it was Vicodin that sent him to Mayfield, I always knew it was grief and his inability to process that which caused his delusions. Even a first year med student would be able to recognize that his breakdown was EMOTIONAL, NOT DRUG INDUCED. As far as I am concerned, had House not crashed his car into Cuddy’s dining room, he absolutely would have driven into traffic (thus killing himself) or just disappeared out into the world away from everything that anchored him to this world. I think his next trip to Mayfield would not have ended so well for him. So in a way, after having sacrificed every part of himself for Cuddy (Recession Proof), thankfully his rationality overtook him and he decided in that last moment to not give up everything for her. I never thought it was anger or jealousy that drove House to crash his car, but the reality that Cuddy did in fact once again prove him RIGHT. She discarded him, just as she did Lucas (and let’s face it House, and we as viewers, know just how much she cared about Lucas). The moment that House told Cuddy that it was not her fault (whether because House knew Cuddy for who she is and accepted that in her…that she could not help who she is and would therefore “screw up every relationship she ever has”, or it was his acceptance that he was just unlovable), either way, as soon as House assumed responsibility of their break-up Cuddy was then happy to move on to her next screw-up. I personally was happy to see House finally place blame at the doorstep of where it belonged. Granted quite explosively, but I do understand it. Actually, I believe this is a lesson that Cuddy desperately needed to learn….(after all Lucas could just as easily done the same thing to her for her treatment of him) she certainly taught it to House enough times…The Greater Good: HOUSE SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO MAKE OTHER PEOPLES LIVES MISERABLE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY THE CONSEQUENCES. Those were Cuddy’s words. Seems fair to me. Enough on the rant of Cuddy….I am sooo glad that she is gone.

    I will say the dynamic between House and Foreman I believe will be better for House as well as Foreman. I have never been a Foreman fan, however I will say that they do NOT have the baggage of mindgames (Cuddy/House definitely did there and could not trust eachother even when they were honest), and therefore might be able to work better together. Foreman was open and honest with House (which we all know is the only thing that House ever wants), and House did as Foreman asked-thus the give and take of respect. I was glad to see Foreman return that with House’s office and “stuff”.

    I really like Dr. Park. I was sure that I was not going to, but I do. She is the perfect lump of clay for House to mold. House has always had the air of do as I say, not as I do- and she will eventually learn that his words of wisdom greatly outweigh his deeds.

    I do hope that we have seen the last of the Neo-nazis from prison, however I have a bad feeling that we will see them again at some point. Can’t imagine that they will let House’s little rouse go unpaid. However, we did lose Moriarity to the abyss, so who knows.

    One last question-any idea what bracelet House was wearing on his right wrist?

  • Kelly

    I agree with HouseMDFan on pretty much all of it though I do like your reviews more than others.

    I believe Omar Epps said it himself in a TV guide online article that he thinks Foreman deeply respects and even likes House and feels Foreman is playing a role at helping House put his life back together.

    As far as Wilson goes, no he really doesn’t have anything to do with Cuddy as far as how he should or should not be treating House because of the crash. They had and still have a VERY independent friendship that has nothing to do with Cuddy. As far as Wilson staying angry at House longer: Why, what would the point be? As stated in HouseMDFan’s comment; the rift was not half as deep as season five and honestly, House has done things for Wilson that have been good throughout the friendship and I think in the end do out weigh the bad for Wilson. I honestly wished they would have addressed why Wilson hadn’t visited him in prison. Not because I don’t think Wilson didn’t have a right to be angry, but because they had a very strong and long term friendship that I thought would’ve been interesting to learn the feelings behind that decision.

    Liked the episode and honestly, I hope it does just move forward from here & away from the crash. Frankly, he had a yr (8mos in prison) to feel his remorse and guilt. I think it’s time we all moved on.

    Thanks for the review, insightful as always!

  • HouseMDFan

    @Barbara – TBH, I don’t quite see how what you said is an answer to anything I said. Especially this: “I think Wilson will move forward”. But he already did! Right there in front of your eyes! He hit House, and then asked him out to dinner, with a quite symbolic “I want steak.” no less. (He also thanked House, which is a once in a blue moon occurence.) I mean, what else do you need here?

  • HouseMDFan

    @Barbara, PS: Like Kelly, I do appreciate your reviews and the level of thought you put into the show, unlike a lot of other people out there, that’s why I’m here in the first place. So the disagreeing is only an expression of my own love for the show.

  • Kelly

    Great comment Nickel!! Don’t think there’s anything I disagree with as far as House’s relatonships with Wilson and Cuddy.

    As far as the bracelet goes; I saw it on him in a recent iterview so I’m wondering if it’s just a pesonal item for him that he’s choosing to wear.

  • BrokenLeg


    I can’t speak by Barbara’s mouth, but, why do you feel yourself so guilty of having a discrepant opinion from her?( at least it seems to me because your last posts).

    I believe she will enjoy and welcome all opinions while they stand inside the levels of civility. She is so generous to put this forum open to us. Discrepancy is always good. And adds as different points of views, as persons are posting. And that is always good. At least to me. I thank all of you able to post and add visions to details I forgot, or make questions I never make myself, or have points of views different to mine. Because here, all we share one thing: we are all [H ] lovers!!
    And that is the only that matters.

  • doddle

    This episode was good, better than the premiere.
    The chinese dr is interesting. I just have a conclusion : House is a lucky guy!
    He’s always ok, he has again his best friend, his job, his drugs, his office, a new boss and friend who trusts him, and soon his old team at his side!
    I never seen House as a miserable guy and now I think that we’ll have a happy ending with this serie, Hilson of course, cuddy will never be mentioned, the total destruction of huddy don’t allow a return of lisa edelstein. I can’t believe that producers wanted her to be in season 8.

  • Nate


    As always it is great to be reading your insight into my favorite show. I may be the only one, but I felt in many ways like Transplant felt like a season one episode. The introduction of Dr. Park was as organic as Chase, Foreman, and Cameron. If you remember in the pilot, we meet them talking about the way House does things. With Park, she comes with the office. And I found it a breath of fresh air. Some people will say that this show is running on fumes with Cuddy gone. Cuddy was essential to the show before the relationship. But, after it, she needed to go. Everything she said to House at the beginning of season 7 proved to be lies she told him, and herself.

    To talk about Transplant, I will say that it was fantastic. I hate watching an episode of House only to find that the majority of critics hate it. You Barbara, you are a critic that truly respects the show for what it is and understands the character. And I want to thank you for having weekly reviews. You show me that not everyone is so dense and one minded. They say things about the procedural, they say things about the lack of growth in the character, yet they seem to completely miss the point of the character. There is one reason why House and Cuddy didn’t work. Something happened to him in his childhood that has made him the man he is. Nolan scratched the surface, but never really got to the heart of the issue. If this is never dealt with, House will always be House. And I mean that in the way David Shore does: he will never change. He will try, but he won’t be able to. I think it would be fascinating for the writers to really dig into the childhood of House.

    If they don’t, then this story will end tragically. And I am fine with any ending they come up with. I will not feel cheated if the writers never have him deal in depth with his issues, because there are many people that never do. Maybe House is destined to be alone. It’s a sad thought, but it could very well be where it’s leading.

    Judging from Transplant, I think the writers are even kind of relieved to have the character of Cuddy gone. I didn’t miss her. I thought Foreman made a very good dean, and it will be interesting where that goes. Omar Epps is a very good actor, just watch euphoria part 1 and 2 and try and tell me different. In earlier seasons he was given much more to do. So I am excited to see how he handles this.

    I look forward to another season of reviews Barbara, and if this is the last season, we will have eight seasons of this amazing show to watch over and over again. I think there are polar opposites in the TV land. I am a huge Breaking Bad fan. It is the story of a pole to pole character: good to bad. Whereas House is the story of character running in place. The last seven seasons have not been for nothing. It has all been in the journey, and even though we are back at square one again, House is a character we now know better than anyone else. It almost seems like now we have lived through the “bad” Wilson talks about concerning Stacy in season 1. And now it feels like we knew him before the Pilot. The pattern of the character has been played out before our eyes. It’s fascinating to think it’s just a cycle that continues on in that world, or maybe it ends with him finally changing. Either way, this show will always be a masterpiece and one of the main things that kept me company when I had none myself. I will always love House.

  • MusicandHouse

    First, @BrokenLeg Arrest and prision records are public record. It would not have been hard at all for Foreman to find House even though he has not had visitors or contacted anyone.
    I really liked this episode and I agree, that so far Foreman works oddly well as DOM. In fact, I think i like him a little more in this role than as a team member. I agree Wilson was a little fast to resume the friendship (that punch was AWSOME) and I also agree that the friendship may not fall directly back into the old rhythm right away. However, I also think that the acceptance was sped along because we’ve already had the storyline of WIlson and House needing to mend their friendship back in season 5. We all know that Wilson will always take House back in the end, so there was no need to create an “A Story” plot about it this time.
    I like the new girl a lot. She’s incredibly akward, but in a cute way, not an annoying way (al la Zooey Dechenel on “The New Girl”). She sort of reminds me of masters but without being a totaly “know it all” and with more of an edge. I’m really interested to see how Yi and Anablle (Dr. Adams)work together and I can’t wait to see both of them integrate with the previous memebers of House’s team. We know 13 returns next week, but I am curious to know when the rest of them appear (*Mild Spoiler* If I remember correctly Jesse Spencer said he doesn’t appear until episode 5 *END SPOILER*) and, as much as I have never been a huge Taub fan, I can’t wait to see how he’s handeling two women with two babies.
    I think that,despite all the controversial shake up with the departure of Lisa E and the addition of two new characters (as well as Thirteens rumored leave which is said to happen next week but is not permanant, she may return) there are a lot of new creative posibilities to work with and, if this turns out to be the last season as many predict, it will definately still go out with a bang.
    BTW Did anyone else love the return of the while board, the bouncy ball AND the ruuben?? The writers said they were getting back to the roots of the show and last nights episode paried with those simple inclusions indicate to me that this is what they really are going to do. I just with the announcement would come already about if this season will be the last or not. Of course I don’t want it to be, but if it is I want time to prepare!

  • Nickel

    Kelly, we are definitely in the minority on those matters. I recently bought the DVDs and watched them start to finish, and I can tell you that I didn’t like Cuddy on day 1. Of course by the time I got to 3 Stories, I really hated her. Talk about ethical lapses…ugh. Every time I think about Cuddy pouncing on House at his absolute lowest point (Help Me) because she believed that she could “OWN” him when he is broken, and then having the guts to tell him that she loves him and doesn’t want him to change (after all she fell in love with who he is didn’t she???duh), I gotta tell you wow. What a skank. I know why LE left the show, she had to have hated her character-I know that I did.

    I too saw the bracelet on Hugh during the interview, however I thought he was on set at the time, so still think it has something to do with prison. No biggie.

    I just hope that House has boundaries with Wilson this time around. The first time Wilson manipulates House (for some convoluted reason to change him), I certainly hope that House returns the PUNCH IN THE FACE.

  • 2Lightworker

    Barbara, Thank you as always for your faithful and insightful assessment of House, through all the twists and turns.

    Is there an answer to #6@Susan’s question about why this isn’t headed, “Welcome to the End of the Thought Process?” I occurs to me that you tried to get this up as fast as possible and that may have slid by.

    The range of fan response over the summer has had levels of negative projection that if I hadn’t become deeply invested in the evolving story and of course in Hugh Laurie’s performance, I might have succumbed to a huge avoidance reaction.

    But you have your wise hand on the tiller, and guided this blog into Season 8, which I have much enjoyed in the first two episodes. So much so, that although I am aware this MAY well be the last season, I have non-so-secret wishes that it will not. But the best for all concerned must be my bottom line!

  • Untouchable

    Thank you for your (as always) insightful review, Barbara!

    I’m thrilled about this episode, I must say, about several points:

    House: David Shore was true to his word. House ‘feels’ like the character I knew on Season 1. Well, he’s obviously not the exact same, since a lot of things have happened since then, it’s just the feeling about the character. I really liked it!

    Dr. Park: I liked how she handled House throughout the episode. I have a feeling she’s going to be a valuable asset to PPTH. I’m curious about what is going to happen to her next week.

    Foreman as Dean: Since I’ve never been a big fan of Foreman (I disliked him during season 3) I was pleasantly surprised by his transformation this season.

    Foreman and House: For he first time, I enjoyed the dynamic between them. I was wondering how the writers would deal with it, because House was Foreman’s boss for so long. I thought Foreman was hungry for some revenge on his old boss. Thank God that didn’t happen. Still, this whole episode felt like Foreman was ‘testing’ House to see if he could trust him. At the end of the case, getting part of his office back felt like ‘positive reinforcement’ from Foreman to House.

    Wilson and House: I think these two are on a good path. No more mind games, no more manipulation, no more passive-aggressiveness. House told Wilson how he felt from his heart and Wilson responded with an equally honest punch and invitation for dinner.

    I really like where things are going. I have great hopes for this season!

  • Nickel

    Oh, yea one more thing-for all those who couldn’t understand why House would spend 3 months in a tropical paradise before turning himself in. Lets see-he just had major surgery on his leg with stitches torn out at lunch with Cuddy, so possibly he wanted to get that healed before subjecting himself to the standards of a prison doctor. (and now knowing the doctor that was there…good call House.) Not to mention in all the years that we have known House, he has never indulged in anything (other than his 2 new guitars and his motorcycle) so maybe a vacation wasn’t totally out of the question. We do know that House bought Cuddy things: perfume (Unwritten) and Beads from Thailand (Changes) just to name a few, he also bought Rachel toys (granted, in order to help her get into a school which if nothing else would teach her how to eat oatmeal with her spoon properly). So yes, let him indulged a bit.

  • doddle

    I loved Cuddy in season 1 to 4, it’s just writers who sucked in season 5 with this character. When they started something with House and Cuddy in S5, I knew that it would be the end for this character sooner or later.
    Cuddy was great as a boss, but I’m curious about Foreman, he seems not to be a crafty one.

  • Eloise

    A really good solid episode, could really feel House’s ‘out of place’ feeling. Felt sad for him with no proper office or his stuff.
    I hated ‘that song’ but now it will always be H/W’s song, that was so funny. And House bought Wilson lunch!
    The shouting of ‘prison’ was good too, typical House to tackle that sort of issue head on even though he can’t deal with his emotional ones!

    Foreman has slipped surprisingly well in the DOM position and I’m interested to see where it goes for them. I dont agree that he dislikes House, he did, but since Help me he has seemed to ‘get’ House.

    The new doctor show lots of promise, at the end I felt she has respect for House. I liked the way that she didn’t just fold when he was rude to her.

    I am really pleased at this season so far, I hope it continues in this fashion.

  • #6-Susan. The article is filed under Welcome to the End…

    HouseMDFan–what I mean by “move on” was to move back into his relationship with House. But I think that relationship will be altered. It almost has to be. This was a significant thing House did–and evidently House thinks it’s significant enough to serve time in prison for it. Wilson is a friend of both House and Cuddy. He will of course be affected by it–and affected by the reappearance of House after such a long time in prison. I’d be upset if this completely forgotten (although it could be, certainly). As always, feel free to disagree with me.

    Nickel–Agree that it was emotional issues–dealing with all that had happened over the course of that year that sent him to Mayfield.

    Wilson and Cuddy have both done him disservice over the years, agreed.

    Also, don’t forget the desk in her office 🙂

    Untouchable–I like the new straightforwardness of Wilson re: House.

    I really enjoyed the new doctor (Dr. Park). She’s quite different than anyone else House has had on the team.

    I do like where the season is headed!

  • Linnet

    I don’t understand why some viewers insist on foisting guit on House. Is it so wrong that he does not feel guilt? I am reminded of Jean-Paul Sartre’s adaptation of the Orestes story (Les Mouches). In the last scene, the hero, unlike his sister Electra, refuses to accept guilt and admit that what he did (murdering his mother) was wrong. He recognizes his actions and owns it.
    Consider House’s situation. After his breakup with Cuddy, he was living in unendurable misery. It was getting a little hard to watch. If he doesn’t do anything, he would stay like that forever. Just from a narrative point of view, that would be boring. House did what he thought he had to do at the time to break out of it. Yes, it was drastic and questionable, but I find the moral outrage of much of the audience and their supposed “alienation” from House’s character puzzling.
    Maybe I just dont’ have very good moral sense. But I’d rather have a House that resembles Sartre’s Orestes than be guilt-ridden and bogged down again.

  • 2Lightworker

    @Nickel #7 (and 16) – This is exquisite and I am grateful to you for posting it. You have stated beautifully and concisely what I have come to think about Cuddy. It is of course how the character was written, and I do wish there had been more nuance in the season 7 relationship. With the uproar over the ending of S 7 and Lisa Edelstein’s departure, your comments reflect what I saw as I reflected over the summer, and I have nothing more to add to your cogent remarks. I do find the barrage of hostile comment, leading to attacks on Hugh Laurie, to be appalling and unjustified.

    Agree with Barbara – I do not see House carrying a torch for Cuddy because the soul and spirit connection was not what was conveyed with Stacy. House alluded to that early in S 7 when he worried that they had nothing in common apart from work and sex. If they had, she could not have treated him as she did. The dialogue and actions with Stacy were on a different level of emotional depth – showing that House can love and be in a relationship, even if affected by his attitudes.

    That is not to say I did not allow myself to get caught up emotionally in the first 15 episodes of S 7, and was in shock for quite a while after the sudden and harsh break-up (mostly because the way Hugh responded broke my heart), in addition to being repelled by the more than usual sexism in the portrayal of women in Episodes 16 and 17. Very painful, but with distance, my respect remains with House, for all his character traits. Still something noble at his core, a fragile sensitivity, even with the crash, which I consider to have been very bad judgment with a cynical kick by the creative team. Looking backward, they seem to have pushed their macho games beyond most viewers’ tolerance.

    As to Foreman, whom I know viewers often dismiss as “boring,” I think Omar Epps’ range has not been used consistently, and I hope the writing will give him a chance to show the acting chops he has shown in the early seasons, most extraordinarily in “Euphoria” as someone noted above, and in an early ep just shown, “DNR.” He has a lot more to give than is possible in the usual backseat, exasperated script he’s given.

    Don’t have a sense the writers are inclined to explore House’s childhood where the origin of his issues lie, but I wish they would. It could send the show over the top.
    My hope is that the inner process he engaged in since he last stood on the beach in the fading light may have helped him make a subtle shift in how he takes on life, which doesn’t mean he has to “change.”

    Also wondered about the bracelet, seeing it on HL’s wrist in the video interview, thought maybe it was something connected to Hugh’s music tours, but now think it’s from prison or the respite paradise – and hope to find out what it represents to House – how it serves to remind him of someone or something, within or without.

    Wilson, for me, serves the show best not as an admonisher, but in the more comic scenes that provide relief from the deep and serious themes that have held me fast.

  • Jane E

    I think you hit every item on the head and I don’t have much to add. I am looking forward to this season and did feel this was an excellent transitional episode.

  • Visitkarte

    Hi Barbara
    Like always, beautiful review. What surprised me is that you overlooked one of the greatest parallel stories here:

    The (ex-) boyfriend of Wilson’s patient is a drunk, she used to share his addiction. Wilson is relieved that she quit the relationship, fearing a setback in addiction.

    Wilson is scared of getting sucked in House’s vortex of addiction and madness, so he tries to get away from him, even trying to convince House and himself that “he doesn’t like House”. As if, Denial is not just a beautiful river.

    House wouldn’t give up, he tries to save not just the lungs, but also his old friendship. So he pushed Wilson, again, to do all it takes to make his patient live. Wilson over thinks his problem and remembers how the ex-bf of his patient made her do another round of chemo, when she wanted to give up. He get’s over himself and calls her ex, and he can manage what Wilson couldn’t and his patient lives long enough to get the transplant.

    After this aha-moment Wilson has no choice but to rethink his own position. There’s of course anger and hurt left in him, so he does what it takes for him to get over himself and forgive House: he punches him so hard, that House is on the floor and Wilson almost reinjures his healed right hand.

    After that, he is ready to start again. He learned again, that he needs to take the good with the bad. House is both: destructive, reckless, jerk, but a positive force in the universe. And Wilson likes that.

  • Visitkarte

    23 – Linnet
    You put it so beautifully, I have nothing to do but bow to your insight and reasoning. I agree 100%

  • Nickel

    Hey Doddle#20, there were bits and pieces of Cuddy during seasons 1-4 that I did like Cuddy, but overall she completely lost me with her scene coming out of the elevator in the Pilot. House says he is going “home”, she replies with “too what”. First she has as much to go home to as he does, yet oddly enough he never judges her on her crappy life. Second, if Cuddy had fought for her “patient” as House does Stacy and House would still be together. Cuddy had her hand in all House’s losses. If you remember back to Need to Know, when Stacy asked Cuddy (why I don’t know) how House was when she left, her answer was harsh. Then with the snide comment “YOU LEFT HIM FOR A REASON”…wow could that be because Stacy/Cuddy completely betrayed his trust and crippled him against his wishes and he felt, oh I don’t know angry, hurt, in pain, betrayed and disrespected….possibly. I wonder how Cuddy would have felt if the tables were reversed. Have her wake up from her surgery in Bombshells to find half her leg muscle gone. Welcome to VICODIN HELL. The long painful, lingering death that Cuddy and Stacy condemned House to (vicodin will at some point trash his liver) I would not wish on anybody.

    As for Cuddy being a good boss, huh lets see: Maternity she refused to make the decision that needed to be made, instead made House decide, (this only after admonishing him for being bored), Babies and Bathwater: telling House that she got rid of vogler because of House (in front of his juniors to boot) failing to mention the fact that she did not want to be NEXT on Voglers hit list. Also forgetting that House basically did everything (except labcoat) that Vogler wanted. Oops, the speech, which thankfully Cameron say for what it was. As for unprofessional behavior on Cuddy’s part, I could go on forever. And before we start comparing rights and wrongs, here is the thing. House NEVER once judges Cuddy on her shortcomings (inability to open up…), he accepts her (and everyone else) for who they are. Cuddy judges House, belittles him for his shortcomings and doesn’t have any problem letting anyone and everyone know about them.

    I agree the writers should have improved her character, instead they turned her into this cold-calculating witch, who would rather control House than do pretty much anything else. ugh

  • Joan

    I certainly cannot say the episode was an awesome return to basics but it was a decent ‘return’ ep and Hugh was very good at showing House’ discomfort over his return and attempts to find his zone again, with his chair, etc..I did feel emotional when Foreman gave him back his office, his name on the door again.

    That said, I have to agree even more emphatically with Barbara that Wilson’s getting over it with House was so quick and frankly contrived that while I smiled over the punch and immediate dinner invite, it was extremely disappointing. I do think the writers were intending Wilson to ‘speak’ for fans who were very upset over House’s actions at the finale and if they think ‘just punch me’ and get it out of your system is all that is needed to get back to the way things were and happily move on, they are much mistaken. Wilson has plenty of reason to hold House’s actions against him, it was not just affecting Cuddy. Clearly Wilson was unhappy enof with House to not visit him in jail for a year and do his ‘we aren’t friends’ bit on seeing him again. Some of you don’t think Wilson can feel that he is morally offended by how far House went and does not want to let him off the hook for an assault on someone who was a longtime friend of both of theirs?

    For those of you who are dumping on Cuddy so much, I’m not going to waste time defending her now or even listing all the things she did and put herself out for House for, or even remind you of how many times House was a colossal selfish ass and did cruel things to her… but even if she made mistakes and hurt him (as they acknowledged in that beautiful scene in the hallway before he crashed her house) what House did was totally unacceptable — there is no moral compass that can say it was ok for House to get her out of his system by crashing a car into her house!! Boyfriends assaulting ex-girlfriends and their stuff go to jail and its no joke. The writers certainly could have given him a catharsis without that travesty. After their hallway talk, frankly I thought they were just going to move on and the car came out of left field for me. House could have just taken off and booked that vacation. Please stop defending his actions here. And even beyond the crash at her house, the fact that that drove her away from Princeton and PPTH would absolutely be a source of guilt and remorse to the House we used to know; I agree Barbara he does not show his deepest emotions and I did not expect a lot of talking it out, but that he did not cast one glance at Cuddy’s office or pause at that door he so often burst through to show us (like when Wilson said I don’t like you) that he did feel regret and more, really made the ep fall flat to me. Just that momentary acknowledgment would have been a good start to liking House again.

  • visitkarte–I completely missed that one–of course (blushes). Thanks for pointing it out.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Joan – You ever had a friend you hadn’t seen in years, and a few minutes after meeting them again, it’s like you were never apart? THAT’S why this was so quick. House and Wilson just have this kind of dynamic. They both kind of knew from the get-go that Wilson would come around, it would have made no sense to drag it out. I’m not saying that Wilson wasn’t affected by what happened to Cuddy, but it has been a year, and I don’t think that his relationship with Cuddy would actually influence his decision about his relationship with House. I’m also not saying that Wilson condones what House did, but House has been in prison for a year for it, and if Wilson didn’t drop him over the repeated forged prescriptions and over Amber, then he is not going to drop him over this. I’m also not saying that Wilson isn’t unhappy with a lot of things House says and does, it was his argument in this very episode after all – but he realizes that’s not the point. He’ll take the bad with the good, because at the end of the day, House can make him better and can make him be himself and can make him laugh. These two BELONG, and they have a connection that can turn on its axis extremely fast.

    I agree with you about the things that are dumped on Cuddy in a few comments here, it would be a waste of time pointing out the obvious.

  • Visitkarte

    @Joan 29

    Boyfriends assaulting ex-girlfriends and their stuff go to jail and it’s no joke.

    I agree. But so do you for doing surgery against patient’s wishes. Only, Cuddy got away, with not as much as a slap on her wrist. Because House wouldn’t do that to her. Of all characters on this show, somehow the “selfish jerk” is most of the times, the most generous guy. He is fast to forgive other’s failures and values his own failures more than his virtues.

    @Nickel 28

    I loved your post. Not much to add. Only, what I already stated: Doing a surgery against patient’s expressed wishes is an assault. In House’s case, a crippling assault. You go to jail and lose your medical license forever for doing such a thing. If anything, he’d own her for that. It doesn’t matter if she saved his life or not. We have no way to know. Patients have the right to refuse even life saving treatment without being suicidal. See Wilson’s patient in “Transplant”. It’s the patient’s call.

  • DebbieJ

    @Joan #29 and HouseMDFan #31 – as Hugh points out in the TV Guide interview of a few weeks ago: To the question: How’s Wilson doing?, Hugh responds in part: House must win back the true love of his life – Wilson.

    I just loved that he said that and I am by NO means a Hilson!

    The reason I think they made up by the end of Episode 2 is because Wilson being mad at and keeping distance from House for a long period of time (4 or 5 episodes) was already done after the death of Amber and I think it would’ve been redundant. We know that Wilson was angry, with every right to be (by not visiting him even once). And regarding Cuddy, he may not be angry at House for chasing her out of Princeton because he, as her friend, may feel that it was the best thing for her to do for her and Rachel’s own sake; to start anew somewhere.

    Finally, I think that Wilson knows that House “is how God made him”. He’s accepted this, time and again. Doesn’t mean he can’t be angry at him for his actions.

    One question. I know Wilson’s right hand is the one that was injured and him wincing and shaking it after he punched House in the face (thank goodness he didn’t choose House’s other suggestion!) was to show us that he still occasionally can have physical pain from House’s actions, but why would he throw a punch with his right hand if he is left handed?

  • Visitkarte

    @ 33 – DebbieJ

    I guess Wilson chose his right hand, because if he hurt it, he’d still be able to write and 2nd it was kind of a “revenge of the hurt hand”

  • DebbieJ

    @Vistkarte #34 – Ah, okay. That makes sense to me 🙂

  • 2Lightworker

    @Nickel – #28 – You are something else!

    “during seasons 1-4 that I did like Cuddy, but overall she completely lost me with her scene coming out of the elevator in the Pilot. House says he is going “home”, she replies with “too what”. First she has as much to go home to as he does, yet oddly enough he never judges her on her crappy life. Second, if Cuddy had fought for her “patient” as House does Stacy and House would still be together. Cuddy had her hand in all House’s losses.”

    When I re-view my DVD’s, this is the kind of thing I notice and feel pain, which I don’t think I did the first time around. But I will say that all of this is the work of the writers, who put forth their view of human nature.
    Since S 7, I am invested for the wind-down of an amazing character concept, but I distance myself so as not to feel as if this was a person or persons I know.
    My sense of my response is that Hugh Laurie’s charismatic and deep interpretation is beyond mesmerizing.
    What a trip for a man in mid-life!

  • ValentineBaby

    Did anybody notice that Hugh’s bald spot is not covered up as much in this episode? Did he lose his hair in prison? :o)
    Loved Dr. Park. But had difficultly hearing her (she mumbles). I’ll watch it again with captions.
    This is, and always will be, my favorite show.
    Barabara: I think your reviews and understanding of the character are great. I look forward to them every week.

  • BrokenLeg

    34 @ Visitkarte

    Nice to hear of you again! But I respectfully disagree with your thought about why Wilson uses his right hand to punch House face. Throwing a punch on someone’s face I think is always an irrational act. And irrational acts, or non meditated acts are made from your inner self. And Wilson is a left handed man. Being myself today almost a perfect ambidextrous one, as a result of being “re-educated” as a right handed person when I was a left handed little child ( yes, many years ago these horrible things still happened in my country!!), today, when I do a really, really non meditated thing I tend to use my left hand, that is,in addition, my strongest one. So, if I ever have to punch someone (I hope not), I’m almost sure I’ll use my left hand, not my right hand!!

    And as a doctor you are, one further question: This lungs in the lab are a real procedure? Can they “survive” hours “breathing”as was shown? As far as I know, in one transplant surgery, the actions done between donor and receiver are in a short sequence of time.
    Can you enlighten me?

  • Ladidah

    I think the bald spot went with the vaguely hangdog subdued post prison image they were evoking.

  • Action Kate

    Valentine Baby: Oh good, it wasn’t just me. I was really getting frustrated with not being able to understand Dr. Park! I’m not sure whether I like her yet; the jury is still out.

    The parallel with the patient and her friend wasn’t quite as obvious as some of last season’s anvils, which is a bit refreshing, to be honest.

    LOVED the punch. Loved it. Such a guy thing.
    Wilson: *resigned glare*
    House: *cautious look*
    Wilson: POW
    House: I deserved that. Feel better?
    Wilson: Yes. You?
    House: Yep.
    Wilson: Good. Now we’re friends again.

    Did anyone else notice the truly horrible lighting in the middle half of the episode? From the time House came back to PPTH up until he was in the MRI, the shadows were wrong, the contrast was off, everything was badly lit. After Wilson denies him a second time, suddenly everything’s properly lit again. It wasn’t thematic — it didn’t happen with House’s diagnosis; it was well before then. Was it just our broadcast?

  • Merkof

    @ All of you

    Ouf! It is so satisfying to find again a positive atmosphere here.
    Needless to say I loved both 20 Vicodin and Transplant.

    Great article by Barbara even though I have a few disagreements. Most of you have dealt with them (Foreman, Wilson) so I shall avoid repetitions.

    A few remarks:

    1. Wilson must have been quite bored without House. Meeting him again and feeling his vitality was a major element for the quick reconciliation. After all they have through a lot worse together (Stacy, divorces, Amber, rehab).

    2. House’s submissive reaction to Foreman seems to me only partly due to the threat of prison. Foreman states his case in such a rational way that House, who is still rebellious, seems convinced more than forced. Which finally made me realise why I never much like Cuddy, even though I wanted Huddy to happen. Cuddy laying down the hospital laws was too strident and dictatorial. (script, direction, acting? I shall not go further…)
    I am actually beginning to think that Dean Foreman might be a success!

    3. I think that House is not feeling extremely guilty; he has accepted his crime and went to prison voluntary to expiate for it.
    I also think that his hurt must have been somewhat mitigated by his lashing out in such an extreme way. However I have the impression that he still feels resentment for the rejection and the blow to his self esteem, and a feeling of emotional failure, which is probably aggravated by the situation he finds himself now.
    Dreaming of Cuddy does not come out as an expression of pain. It sounded disapproving and disagreeable.
    “My boss dumped me” to Dr Park also shows resentment.
    Of course that might be me reading what I want to, as I always felt that the H/C relationship was more based on need and familiarity than deep love as shown for Stacy.

  • Action Kate–didn’t notice that lighting thing, but I was watching on my computer (I was victim to that overtime BB game). But that would make sense–House being off kilter, the lighting being off kilter, etc.

  • bakerstreet blues

    Couldn’t help but chime in here. I have always found that my favorite people in the world are the non-judgmental ones. Having been categorized wrongly myself for most of my adult life I am continually appalled at those who jump to judge me. As for the House/Cuddy debacle I would feel much more compassion for Cuddy had she been more adult than House. While I understand her reasons for starting and stopping her relationship with House…..don’t judge him for the same weaknesses that she has. I think back to Massage Therapy at how she was concerned about letting House into Rachel’s life and what would happen if House then left it (or was thrown out). Well my answer to that question is this: What happened when she threw Lucas out of Rachel’s life?

    One of the characteristics of early season’s Cameron that I just hated was that “better than thou attitude” (Sleeping Dogs Lie, I just wanted to throttle her for judging something that was clearly not her business and definitely not medical). Someone posted that somewhere along the line Cameron and Cuddy changed bodies and I completely agree. Trust, honesty, openness and communication all go hand in hand. You cannot expect someone else to be more honest with you than you are willing to be with them and so on. Back when Wilson was still House’s friend in Out of the Chute, Wilson practically BEGGED Cuddy to talk to House, but she was just as closed as he was. Yet she had no problems judging him for the same weakness. 2 months later is really too late. (at least it would be for me). All I am saying is that as messed up as these 2 people are/were her inability to open up to House was just as apparent as his to her. Of course I never really believed that House was in love with Cuddy, he certainly never looked at her the way he always looked at Stacy. (his eyes were “soft” when he looked at Stacy). Back in The Itch, Wilson convinced House that Cuddy was perfect for him and since House always believes what Wilson tells him in matters of the heart, he trusted that. But I think these 2 really should both be on separate desert islands.

  • Visitkarte

    @Broken Leg 38

    I know, I didn’t mean his head chose the hitting hand, but his memory. He must have done hours of painful ergo therapy & physio and imagined how he’d love to use it the way he did in the end. House have him explicitly his permission, he invited him to do it. So his “hand remembered”.

    Maybe Wilson was also forced to use “his good hand” for years and got some ambidexterity. He is, after all, not so young. Boxers definitively use both fists, not equally, but they use them both.

    I know why they wrote it that way. Wilson shaking his previously hurt hand was so adorcable. And a great reminder of why he did it (among other reasons, like, jumping from the balcony, forging prescriptions etc…)

    I first thought: Lungs in a box? SciFi, maybe doable in theory. But actually, it has been made. Lungs are a pretty resilient organ, that’s why people get away with smoking so often for so long.

  • DebbieJ

    @Valentine Baby #37 – Yes, I had noticed. It must be liberating to HL to not have to spend so much time in Make Up with whatever they use (wig, spray, hair piece etc.) to cover it up. However, I do like the longer length of his hair altogether. I’ve seen in a clip of an upcoming episode (or perhaps an interview – I forget), that his hair is trimmed a bit shorter than in these first 2 episodes but it still looks better than in past seasons, IMO. Especially S6! And since we’re talking about his appearance and looks, can I say how nice he fit into those jeans while trying to move his chair out of Pinto’s office. Er, never mind. This isn’t the proper place for that kind of observation! 😉

    @Action Kate #40 – I agree. The subtle parallels ARE refreshing and are much more in tune with this series as opposed to the anvils of last season.

    I noticed the lighting, too. Perhaps it had nothing to do with setting the tone of a scene, but maybe it’s evidence of some more budget cutting 😛

  • Merkof

    43 – bakerstreet blues

    I am with you.
    One thing only: House already suspected “it”. Wilson just expressed in words the situation making it more real.

  • Nickel

    BTW, I almost hope that Wilson is addicted to Vicodin because of his hand injury. hahahahaha I LOVE IRONY.

  • Earth Orbiter

    @Visitkarte #32: Well said, except for one thing: in this country, its “battery.” “Assault” is the threat (along with the means to actually carry it out). “Battery” is the actual contact or injury. And, yes, its jail time, permanent license revocation, etc…

  • bakerstreet blues

    So let’s re-cap…House went to the nuthouse (because of a delusion involving Cuddy) and then prison. Wow, gotta love the determination. I was hoping that Cuddy would leave the hospital to be an astronaut or something. I was hoping that the writers would do something equally devastating to her character (like they did to Kutner for leaving the show with little or no notice) so she has no reason to ever come back.

  • Joan

    HouseMDFan 31 IA, I knew House and Wilson would be friends again, it just felt off to me for it to happen on day 1 if Wilson could hold onto his anger/dislike/whatever for a year while House was in prison, I don’t see jumping to dinner so fast, that felt like the writers not wanting to drag it out over more eps than something organic.

    Visitkarte 32 Your blame for Cuddy is misplaced in this case, she did nothing wrong here. The leg surgery is largely on Stacy, sorry. Stacy had a signed power of attorney to act on House’s behalf when he could not act for himself and that is legally binding on Cuddy and the hospital. Cuddy came in late to House’s case and took over, she did the long-shot treatment he told her he wanted even though it hurt and could kill him and she knew he did not want to cut off his leg but they did not discuss the middle ground surgery so she was not acting against his wishes. Stacy asked her about options and as a dr. she told her. Stacy authorized the compromise surgery and had power to do that. Stacy is the one who knew House would not want it. And then when the results were bad and House was hurting and mad she left him when she couldn’t take it anymore….hate her?

    Again for bakerstreet blues and others who seem very down on Cuddy, yes she did her share of ‘wrong’ stuff, but you are pointing to little insulting comments she made that were part of their interplay and seeming to forget how often House was a SOB. Non-judgmental? Yes, to some extent, he is not a moralist, certainly, has no problems with various odd patient behaviors, but you don’t remember the many times he made jibes to Cuddy about being a bad boss,or ‘fat’ or single,lonely,no man, pushing 40,really? They did play games, sometimes hurt each other. Neither was a saint. But he gave as good as he got and I’d say he frankly got away with a lot more than she or Wilson did to him. Also, to me from the odd abrupt breakup that the writers thought was so clear and obvious for the rest of last season I thought they were writing Cuddy as colder/harsher than prior history would suggest and it made her more unsympathetic, tho House’s extreme and nasty behavior was also very hard to swallow.

    I love House, flaws and all, tho less tolerant re late last season’s crazy behavior, but he has the writers and Hugh’s amazing talent plus those baby blues that make us as the audience side with him and make allowances and excuse him far more than I think we would do if presented the situation differently or ie. in real life. The people defending his need to crash his car are an extreme example of this point of view.

  • MaryDavis

    Loved the Episode.

    It always seemed that keeping Foreman, Chase and Cameron around (after season 3) damaged the show in some way since the core of the show in the beginning appeared to be House solving medical cases while teaching his “method”. To compound that, their replacements didn’t (other than Kutner occasionally) seem interested in learning anything from him. Watching the early seasons and seeing House’s passion/frustration/pride in his dealings with his “students” just underscores what’s been missing in the show these last years for me.

    Transplant with it’s introduction of House’s relationship with Dr. Park certainly plants the seed to take the show back to it’s roots.

    I’m glad that a show that has to solve a medical mystery and include teaching moments in 45 minutes of screen time has decided to leave the soap opera moments of various “ships” in the dust.

  • Celia

    To MsHouseMD


    I like your thought processes.

  • bigHousefan

    I loved both these episodes!

    I loved the comparison between the patient and Bobby, and Wilson and House. Wilson, like the patient, has a friend that in spite of his failings is ultimately good for him.

    I, too, think Foreman very much respects House for his abilities and also cares about him. I really liked Foreman last season and see a continuing thread.

    I loved House scouring the hospital in search of this stuff. The scene where he tries to retrieve his chair – adorable and ADORABLE!

    I thought the lungs in a glass box reflected how House must have felt. Struggling to function outside of his comfortable surroundings open to everyone’s stares.

    I love how this season started and it’s great to be back enjoying Barbara’s in sight as well as everyone’s comments!

  • doddle

    you’re right, writers sucked with her character. Lisa Edelstein should have left in season 5. It’s amazing how female characters in this show are not very well written.

    Why don’t we have an opening credits with the show this season?
    And so now you’re all happy that Foreman is the new dean? lol
    I’ve read many negative posts here about him being the boss. It was all about wilson or sam (omfg) being the new dean.

  • Visitkarte

    48 – Earth Orbiter
    Thank you for the clarification. My law English is flawed, obviously. I learn every day.
    50 – Joan
    I wanted to avoid this subject but I guess I can’t. It takes a bit long to explain the details. I’ll try to keep it as short as possible.
    Cuddy was the attending, Stacy had no knowledge of Medicine and not much knowledge about medical law (that’s why she asked Cuddy if it was her call after House went down, and Cuddy said yes. She was wrong, and I think she knew that, or she should have known that. It’s her job to know.
    A medical proxy has only than the right to make a decision if the person is not capable of making his own decisions or express their will. House, however, expressed his wish clearly and since he went down, his will stays, unless something drastically changed so his decision is not valid anymore. Nothing changed, Stacy just waited for him to go down and then went against his explicate wished, and Cuddy knew that. Cuddy is the attending, she has the responsibility. Stacy is his girlfriend, she has a conflict of interest (he’d rather not take the risk, wants to save his life, if needed, against his will), and, while she is a lawyer, she has not a medical grade and, what’s more important, she is not responsible for his treatment. She is not his attending, it’s Cuddy.
    Cuddy wouldn’t last a single hearing under these conditions. She would be doomed, and she knew that. Besides, she should have stepped aside as soon as she noticed she wasn’t being objective (she clearly had a crush on him, she wasn’t objective). She proved in Family Medicine that she never got this chapter in Ethics quite right.
    Stacy might have some moral guilt to carry, and not too little. But Cuddy had the legal and professional responsibility.

    I never tried to play down House’s legal responsibility for crashing into Cuddy’s dining room. What he did was a crime, it wasn’t attempt to physically harm the people but it was reckless (after all, worst case scenario, the house could have crushed/caught fire) and highly traumatizing.

    Please try to do the same and accept Cuddy’s legal responsibility for doing unlicensed surgery on his leg and condemning him to a lifelong pain and a life as cripple. Also accept that House might have been right, there was a chance for him to make a full or nearly full recovery. I don’t care how big this off chance was, fact is, this possibility was never given a chance. Because Cuddy went against the explicit patients wishes. Wishes of a highly skilled and best informed doctor, the same one she hired to save the patients nobody could save.

  • Visitkarte

    PS: Even if House’s condition made drastically change to the worse, they could have always woken him up and ask him what to do under the new circumstances. They never had the right to use a medical proxy, unless he became incapable of waking up and making his own decisions.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – From a purely legal POV you might be right, I don’t know. But what’s important here is the context: This is House MD, a show that NEVER actually followed medical ethics or medical law to the letter. Everybody would have been fired or in jail in the first season. It was always much more about the personal and ethical conflicts themselves, raising questions and showing many different possible perspectives. The infarction was always presented as a grey issue, never black and white. I don’t know why it’s supposed to be that now, especially since the legality has not been mentioned on the show once.
    Someone else said that if Cuddy had acted like House, he would never have lost his muscle or Stacy. IMO Stacy was quite right in “Honeymoon”, if Cuddy had acted like House, he wouldn’t even have a leg. This very episode under which we are taking this detour right now showed that he does not believe in “respecting” the patient’s wishes, but doing what it takes.

  • lobentti

    :)) From all we´d seen before, IMO only the children House treated, Rachel (Cuddy´s kid) and Arlene really understood and loved House as he was! And sure, he said much more with his body and eyes than with words – words doesn´t mather, remember? So, let´s go on.

  • lobentti

    @ Nickel –
    excelent point here, I see Cuddy the same way you do, from the very beginning, but mostly in 7th season :/

  • Joan

    HouseMDFan — IA, you hit the nail on the head, yes, they don’t really follow medical ethics or law on the show and everyone would probably be in trouble in real life! House frequently ignores patient’s explicit wishes to do what he thinks is best for them, so true! But when he saves their lives, all is forgiven. And, (my main point) when its House, many fans don’t have such a problem with that, but the same sort of thing is unforgiveable by womeone else.

    Re Cuddy, Visitkarte, I appreciate your point of view, I think it is largely the show twisting the situation and how we are interpreting it (I think we are to assume House could not be woken up to ‘ask’ him or would die and his condition is deteriorating so they would have to act) and I don’t interpret Cuddy as having a crush on him then or knowing better than Stacy what he would want. Legally, relatives with no medical knowledge and emotional ‘conflicts’ are frequently put in the position of making medical decisions in this country, so even tho drs may know best, family member/holder of poa or healthcare directive has the final say as a matter of law. But its so true that House only applies legal/medical realities when it suits the plot, so it is a moot argument. Remember when House refused to comply with the DNR for the musician — we were all rooting for him were’nt we?

  • Serena

    @ Barbara
    “I’m hopeful that the impact of “Moving On” won’t disappear too soon, and will frame at least the deep background of episodes to come as House navigates his newly altered reality”
    It certainly would be more powerful, but I think the writers are just trying to turn an embarrassing page as soon as possible. That is why they resumed quickly the H/W friendship (disappointingly quickly, as you noticed) and avoided to go too deep into House’s emotions about Cuddy’s departure. However, his reaction to the mention of Cuddy is perfectly understandable. He can’t confront her, he can’t even hear anything about her. When he hears that she gave notice the very next day after the “incident”, he has the proof his action actually affected Cuddy’s life and doesn’t want to know more because it would be too difficult for him to deal with it. He’s simply trying to remove the mess of mixed feelings he still has for her.

  • RobRow

    I saw that episode and thought, wow, he really is unrepentant and he really hasn’t changed. And then I thought, well I can live with that, and is empathy for the character beside the point? Like Lear or Falstaff, House has become something of an everyman character. He suffers but he isn’t likeable. And the Shakespeare analogy is deliberate, because he’s got that depth. I doubt David Shore imagined what the character would become when he pitched the idea for the show. If House was simply Sherlock Holmes in a (missing) medical coat I would have thought, disgusting clever-dick, and stopped watching a long time ago. I was more annoyed by Foreman as the Dean of Medicine. Really implausible considering all we know about his history. But again, I can live with it for the sake of show. It is convenient, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave up the job and rejoined the team at some point. As for Wilson, I accept all you say Barbara, but….I’m glad House and Wilson’s bromance is on again. It’s been the most enduring relationship in the show, and one of its strengths. The episode Birthmarks from season 5 was much better in the reconciation stakes (possibly my all time favourite), but for now a punch will have to do. Finally the new character, doctor Park was great. Quirky, cute, and capable of standing up to House. Maybe she’ll punch him next. I really enjoyed this episode, and despite differing on some points, this review.

  • Queen

    Barbara, It’s interesting to read all the comments and your responses to them. I particularly notice that you have not responded to one single Cuddy hate remark. Of course you want this place to be positive and you don’t want to deter people from commenting here but it can’t be attractive to everyone when the irrational hate of one character starts to seep into the comments so frequently. I don’t remember this ever being the case before and I wonder why it’s that way now. I don’t think people can come back when this hate is supported silently. The comments are mainly positive because it has been clear from the last episodes (this season and last) that only “real” fans can comfortably post here. The undercurrent of “judgment” is not gone. There is little rancor because most people with differing opinions don’t post here now.

  • Nickel

    Doddle, I originally believed that Foreman would be a crappy DoM since his track record with authority pretty much sucked. Not to mention the fact that covering up a murder would/should keep him out of the running for the position, but since the Board of Directors did not know this little bit of information….oh wait why? House covered his ass. However David Shore just proved himself WRONG-people do change. Foreman came across as adult and honest with House… traits that we never really saw before. So maybe the fact that he has been in his position a year now without having to prove his worth to the only person he ever tried to (House), he has grown up. He was a little bit a jerk, but when push came to shove he did not utter the words that I will forever associate with the Foreman character YOU’RE WRONG HOUSE, OR HOUSE YOU’RE WRONG. No matter how RIGHT he was.

    The truly endearing fact about House that I really appreciate is this: He did not sneakily perform sabotage to Cuddy’s dining room, (as Wilson and Cuddy always did their secret deeds), he did not deny his deed (Foreman with Dibala), he did not look to get absolution in some other form (Chase), he did not plea to a lesser crime (13), he did not lie about it (Taub). He walked into court like a man and accepted his punishment. That goes a long way in my book. Not to mention that all these other chumps get to point a finger at House as if they never did anything wrong. I was hoping in a lame sort of way that House would remind Foreman that people in glass houses should not throw stones, but that is completely out of character for House to do.

  • Visitkarte

    @ 60 – Joan

    You can’t have it both ways. If you want to ignore law and basic ethics and law, than House should have walked in the hospital, unscathed, without doing time.

    The show respects basic ethics and law. The main principle is, you can get away with almost everything if no one sues you.

    House didn’t sue Cuddy, House’s DNR patient didn’t sue him, Arlene withdrew her pursuit, because, basically, they were OK with what he did.

    House never amputated even a single finger tip without the consent of his patient. He would never do that. If he did, till me an example. And don’t say he girl in Detox, he got the consent of the parents, the girl seemed fine with the decision, she didn’t know better. Remember the dancer? Hannah? Heck, he even asked Andy for consent.

    He might try to browbeat his patients into consenting, he intubated the DNR patient against his alleged will, because it wasn’t really what the patient wanted. He didn’t want to suffocate slowly on the course of ALS, it doesn’t mean he wanted to die because of an anaphylactic shock. Again, he didn’t “hurt” him, no lasting damage was done, he simply made the treatment mistake undone. But he was ready to pay the price, and that’s the difference.

    I must stop now, this is getting OT.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – I’m guessing you are talking about Finding Judas, not Detox? (There wasn’t a girl in Detox.) The dancer from “Under My Skin”? He didn’t even know about the case anymore at that point. Hannah? He didn’t browbeat her because he agreed with her, until he didn’t, and apart from that, Hannah was completely special, and it’s the whole point of her that House acts differently when it comes to his leg than he does with other things.

    And of course the show doesn’t just ignore ethics and law, but the main principle is by no means “you can get away with everything if no one sues you”, the main principle is “let’s examine this ethical and personal dilemma without letting the small letters of law hinder this examination”.

    @Queen – As you can see from my comment above, I’m not happy about the Cuddy hate either, but I thought it pointless to object in depth. Hate is irrational. (I actually think NO recurring character on this show deserves hate, because they are all understandable and interesting in their complexity, but that’s me.) Disagreements are not unwelcome here though, I was the first one to emphatically disagree with Barbara after all. Disagreements that are nothing but hate against the main character or TPTB are rather pointless and poisoning, though.

  • Michele1L

    Solid first two episodes. Like Foreman as Dean of Medicine. Glad Wilson took House up on socking House in the face, rather than the other option House offered him (LOL).

    No one mentioned the creepy older lady in orthopedics who was anxious to rat on House for trying to steal back his whiteboard. I thought she was quite funny.

    All the talk about Cuddy … I agree with most of the negative comments concerning her behavior. She sent House into a tailspin — insisting she didn’t want him to change and then dumping him because he couldn’t. Ridiculous. While what he did was wildly over the top because his behavior had been escalating what he did wasn’t shocking to me. I’m not condoning it, but I get it and think he should be done feeling guilty about it and Cuddy. Cuddy set all of it in motion by lying to herself and to him in the beginning. Having said that, I would not be suprised — especially if this turns out to be the last season — if Cuddy were to return for an episode.

    On a more trivial note — glad Hugh’s hair is shorter in the next episode. Hate the longer hair, and glad they are not powdering,spraying, toupe-ing and whatever else they’ve been doing to cover his bald spot. (He’s had that bald spot forever. Long before he started “House”.) It was probably Hugh’s suggestion that the makeup people finally let it alone. On his special “Let’s Talk” on PBS he commented about how the people in Los Angeles are ‘terrified of getting old’. Obviously, he has no problem with maturing. Good for you, Hugh!

  • HouseMDFan


    Cuddy set all of it in motion by lying to herself and to him in the beginning.

    See, I don’t disagree that the results of Cuddy’s actions were bad for House. But a) they were bad for herself just as well, and b) this makes it sound like she did that on purpose. She didn’t, she loved House and she wanted to give that a chance, not seeing the “giant chasm” (House in Humpty Dumpty) that prevented that. This exact character trait has been GOOD for him at other times (“Words and Deeds” is an example).
    I also want to add that House was already in a downward spiral at the end of season 6, Cuddy saved him from that at first and then admittedly reinforced it by leaving him. But the initial spiral wasn’t all her doing.

  • Earth Orbiter

    @Joan #60: Not that we’re ganging up on you; however, with what Visitkarte described, there is nothing left to interpretation. Cuddy The Doctor and Stacy The Lawyer-Cum-Health-Care-Proxy both knew what they were doing was not only wrong, but illegal. House DID state quite clearly what his wishes were with respect to his treatment. He gave his “informed consent.” The medically-induced coma did not mitigate those wishes. Cuddy would’ve been screwed and there might even have been some professional repercussions for Stacy, too; I think someone could’ve made a pretty good “she should have known better” case against her. Both would have suffered legal consequences.

    Of course, you could take it back even farther and ask: Why would a physician consult an ENDOCRINOLOGIST for acute leg pain, and why did it take 4 DAYS to diagnose a condition that should’ve taken less than 4 hours? A blood clot is not that much of a stretch as far as diagnosing; they’re pretty common. I think Visitkarte will back me up on this one. On top of which, the blood clot in his leg could have very easily embolized and traveled to his brain, heart or lungs with much more catastrophic results. From a medical standpoint, the whole premise was ridiculous, which is ironic because this was one of the most popular episodes.

  • Visitkarte

    @ 60 – Joan

    You can’t have it both ways. If you want to ignore law and basic ethics and law, than House should have walked in the hospital, unscathed, without doing time.

    The show respects basic ethics and law. The main principle is, you can get away with almost everything if no one sues you.

    House didn’t sue Cuddy, House’s DNR patient didn’t sue him, Arlene withdrew her pursuit, because, basically, they were OK with what he did.

    House never amputated even a single finger tip without the consent of his patient. He would never do that. If he did, till me an example. And don’t say he girl in Detox, he got the consent of the parents, the girl seemed fine with the decision, she didn’t know better. Remember the dancer? Hannah? Heck, he even asked Andy for consent.

    @ 64 – Nickel

    I agree, again. House can do nasty things, but he is open and honest. Everybody lies, so does House, of course. But when it matters, he owns up, he accepts there is a price to be paid. Beautifully put.

    @ all

    I don’t hate Cuddy, just because I despise some of her behaviors. I know she is just as screwed up, delusional (she wanted to believe she was able to accept House as he was, threw all caution in the wind and claimed she didn’t want him to change… Except, she did. And she was disappointed.

    House never promised her anything he couldn’t give. He actually tried so hard, it was painful to watch. He refused to get attached long enough, and yet, he did, and he got hurt. She got hurt. And it ended in a mess.

    What I wanted to show is, if House is a criminal, Cuddy is a criminal, too. House does bad things because he feels more than he can stand, and if goaded too much, he explodes. But he is very aware of his failures. Other figures on the show aren’t. They are all so fast to assume everything is House’s failure, they come out clean. God, what a cozy fantasy world they are occupying, when there is always a willing scapegoat to blame. What I wanted to show is, while House did a terrible thing and went to jail (he served 10 months in jail, has another 10 months left, 12 for crashing in Cuddy’s dining room, 8 for saving Lupus Guy), so he will live approximately 10 months with the ankle bracelet and all restrictions. 13 euthanized her brother, pleaded down, went away with 6 months. Chase killed a man, dictator, but it was a premeditated, and went away with nothing but a divorce. Cuddy crippled House against his will, she got away with not even one bad word from House. Wilson asked House to risk his life and his sanity to save Amber, and got the right to sulk and blame House after all.

    I won’t go on and on anymore. I hope I made my point. This is my reason for rooting for House. You can love a person and still despise their deeds. Or the other was round.

  • Visitkarte

    Sorry, editing error, the post to Joan was copied in without me noticing it. My bad. I need to go to bed.

  • Queen,

    People can disagree–and I don’t agree with hate spewed at any character, but everyone takes away something different from the show. All of the characters have been victim to hate at one time or another by one part of the fandom or another. Whether or not I agree with people, they are entitled to their opinion.

    I would say that the fault for the surgery lies with Stacy. She is the one who used the medical proxy to go around House. He never stopped loving her even after she did the deed. I do not think Cuddy is to blame for it. There have been so many comments on this thread (for which I’m eternally grateful), I’ve barely had a chance to respond to even a few.

    What I objected to over last spring and summer was the personal attacks on fellow commenters.

    I hated the way Cuddy treated House as their relationship nosedived. She knew his trepidation about the relationship, his terrible fear that she would eventually leave him. And she did. She even admitted to Wilson just how unfair she was being. It was her right to be unfair and cruel. I didn’t like it. That, on the other hand, doesn’t excuse House’s behavior, although anyone who knows him would have known he’d go off the rails completely. (Wilson understood that and it’s why he appealed to Cuddy in Out of the Chute–and why he was so worried about his state of mind).

    I loved the House-Cuddy relationship. I’m sorry that Lisa Edelstein left, but that was her choice, and it was the right one for her. She’s moved on and quickly became part of another show, which is great.

    Visitkarte–You are quite right. House will browbeat and manipulate. Until he (and hence the patient) has complete information and a true answer if found. At that point, House never forces himself or his position. He gets consent, or he lets go. He’s let go of patients (Forever, for example) because after it’s all said and done, it’s their life.

  • Visitkarte

    @ 72 – Barbara Barnett


    I think we have a little misunderstanding. What you name about the illegal surgery on House is the ethical responsibility. This one goes to Stacy, of course. I would say, at least 80% of it.

    But the legal responsibility is often something entirely different. Cuddy knew they were doing the surgery against the patient’s explicit wishes, so Stacy’s guilt wouldn’t let her off the hook. I talk about her duty as a doctor. In this one, she is the expert, not Stacy.

    Thanks God this never became an issue. House never sued anybody and that’s why it’s a moot point. If he did, she would have been deep in the …

    But House is a doctor himself, and he would never sue his fellow colleague, as long as he could relate to their reasoning.

    Let’s agree to disagree on this one. I wanted only to show where I came from. It’s my medical background in the first line making me a hard judge on disrespecting informed consent.

  • HouseMDFan

    Until he (and hence the patient) has complete information and a true answer if found.
    That’s actually a good point, you are right. (He disregards the fact that for the patient, there may be more important things than “complete information”, but that’s the point of the character of course.)

  • I am looking forward to more House but I was surprised that he didn’t focus more on where Cuddy is and what she’s up to. He’s not the kind of person to not ask questions. That’s the writer’s need, the showrunner’s need… isn’t it?
    He loved Cuddy– why would he not carry a torch for her as for Stacy? I am a bit confused about that. But I’m glad people are pleased with the show and maybe it will help us get a Season 9. I’d do anything for more House. I’m a true addict.

  • Droid

    Actually, if we focused on the legal aspects of the show as much as there is focus on the blame to Cuddy for the surgery, I think we would find many greater issues. HouseMDFan said “the main principle is “let’s examine this ethical and personal dilemma without letting the small letters of law hinder this examination”.” We should keep this in mind when watching and forming our opinions. House never blamed Stacey or Cuddy. He never stated or implied any ill feelings toward either of them. If we are to take these issues and examine it in such great detail, we will find liberties in much of the medicine and the law. I think we have to allow dramatic license rather than take these points to heart and spend endless energy placing blame on anyone in any circumstances where we find discrepancies on the show. I think it’s more important to watch for the story they are telling and the ideas they want to share. If this story had been about who was responsible for his leg, then it would have been the story they told. Sometimes we can let our dislike of a character or a ship steer us away from the story being told. The story loses it’s impact when we rip it apart and assign responsibility where it distracts from the show and we miss the relevant information. I’m sure any doctor or lawyer watching the show can find many instances where good judgment in those respective fields are thrown out the window in order the enhance the story. This is the land of television where a complex story has to be told in 49 minutes, interrupted by 6 commercial breaks. It’s a miracle they can even tell a cohesive story in the short spaces they have to work in. We can use anything, out of context, to shore up our arguments but we all know that each case and interaction can’t be taken literally and real life ideas sometimes don’t apply. This was probably a moot point before it started since it was never an issue with House and the story wasn’t told to show either Stacey or Cuddy as villainous.

  • bakerstreet blues

    I completely feel like an idiot. David Shore said back to basics and he did. After watching Transplant a couple times I finally figured out why it was familiar….Honeymoon. House saved Stacy’s husbands life for her because he loved her, and he saved Wilson’s patient’s life because he loves Wilson. DUH

  • 20V

    I think it was out of character for House to not be interested in Cuddy, but that was probably the point. He said at the end of last year that things need to change, and denies her when he thinks it’s her at the prison. He probably does want to know those things, but also knows it’s better for everyone that he doesn’t. Of course, that line of thinking goes against his words of wisdom towards Park, so I’m guessing Park and I are on the same wavelength that House doesn’t practice what he preaches when it hits too close to home.

    This was a transitional episode through and through. most reviewers have been pretty fast to assume everything is back to normal. House may be back Wilson’s graces, but I don’t think they’re necessarily the good ones. And he didn’t get his whole office back, either.

  • bakerstreet blues

    20V#78 Remember House only cares about things that matter to him. Everything else he ignores. I would think the very last thing that House would want to know is “where is Cuddy now?” He is definitely not owned by her anymore.

    Keep in mind that House has NEVER practiced what he preaches….this is why his words of wisdom have always been honest and true. He does not want anyone in his orbit to walk the path that he has. Since he “cannot change, and I really hope he NEVER tries again,” this is his way of helping others off those paths. Think about all the times that he has given really good advice which he himself cannot follow. It sucks, being stuck.

  • BrokenLeg

    @Visitkarte & @ Earth Orbiter

    How do I adore always your “specialized” medical post!! And the feed back between them that improves your previous ones.

    But, although I’m not a MD, there are “something” that escapes my understanding about ethics and law, Stacy’s and Cuddy’s behaviour when House’s leg surgery

    But now I tend to disagree with you and agree with Barbara’s @ 72. Life is not black or white, is fully of greys. And if I were House, I will not regret nor Stacy nor Cuddy, as he’d done. Even if my life really become more miserable, or simply I think it become more miserable.
    And that has nothing to do with avoiding presumed informed consent….

  • om

    does anyone know what foreman said at the end, before and after: ‘found your stuff in storage’?

  • Michele1L


    I didn’t say Cuddy did any of it deliberately. I believe she loved House very much. But when we “lie” to ourselves, we are trying to convince ourselves of something we want to believe is true when deep down we know it’s not. Cuddy wanted to believe that she could accept House for the way he is — but having known him as long as she has and being who she is, she really should’ve known better. (Actually, I don’t agree AT ALL with how the whole thing panned out. I think her breaking up with him and her reasoning behind it was out of character — but that’s just me.)

    As far as his being in a downward spiral …House has been in a downward spiral from the beginning of the series, but his life was in an upswing once he got involved with Cuddy. Certainly, House’s pre-exhisting issues are not Cuddy’s fault — but she certainly knew he was a man with major issues when she convinced him to give their relationship a shot.

  • Earth Orbiter

    @Broken Leg: Visitkarte and I were presenting the argument from a purely medicolegal standpoint. Again, there are no “shades of gray” when it comes to issues of consent; the law is very clear. Just because a patient chooses not to pursue action against the health care provider (and proxy) who ignored his expressed instructions does not mean that the law has been abrogated. What Cuddy and Stacy did was illegal; House choosing not to pursue legal action against them only means that they got away with it. It doesn’t mean that what they did was right.

  • Nickel

    Did anyone notice the fact that House’s “NEW OFFICE” was the janitor’s closet? Nice going Wilson, yet another secret of House’s that mysteriously gets leaked. Does anyone have a piece of duct-tape for that blabber mouth? I so wish that House would out some of the secrets that he knows….that would really be drama.

  • Nickel

    Michele L, I agree with you to an extent. Personally I don’t understand how someone could be in love with another person for 20 years (admitting the fact that House has not changed in those 20 years), and then just NOT? It has always been my understanding (not that I am an expert on love) that when you fall in love with a person it is THAT person that you fell in love with. If you love chocolate ice cream, do you take it home and change its flavor? I just don’t get it.

    I did also make note of the fact that Cuddy did not include House in any of her HUGE decisions prior to her surgery. She did not talk to House about Rachel, she did not talk to him about her meeting with the attorney. Seems to me that she wanted to be ALONE in her moment of decision making. What was it she said to Wilson? “I DON’T WANT TO HOPE THAT I AM NOT ALONE IF THINGS GO BAD, I WANT TO KNOW IT.” Well I guess she won’t have to worry about that anymore,

  • bakerstreet blues

    Nickel85 I always wondered why House wasn’t at Cuddy’s house on the night of her return from the hospital. Seems like she would want support and help with Rachel. Since Cuddy’s sister was there I assumed that she did not want House there…huh another clue? I just think that Cuddy was looking for any reason to break up with House and this was as good a reason as she was going to get….plus it had the added bonus of being his fault to boot. However it was weird since she loves to feel guilty and all.

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  • Visitkarte

    83 – Earth Orbiter


    I am a bit tired of explaining the difference between the maters where you can disagree and facts. The flames are hot. You might disagree, but when you try to keep your finger in it, you’ll get burned.

    84 – Nickel

    Nice catch with the janitorial closet. Actually, it was another Buraku reference, intended or not. Worked excellently. House is now a Buraku, no one wants to deal with him, but when it comes to the medicine, they must listen to him, because he’s right.

  • Droid

    88 Visitkarte I am a bit tired of explaining that there are some points in the show that are there for dramatic license and are not meant to be a point of contention. We did not see every detail so it’s impossible to know everything that went on and I think we can all agree that the very few scenes we were shown in 3 Stories did not include everything that was said and done and that what you are tired of explaining is not the part of the story they were telling therefore we were only given bits and pieces. It’s not only about the medicine in this case but about the relationships and to set the scene to tell the story. I know it’s hard to let go of your House defense but really, it’s a tangent and as a doctor, you must know that you can’t make a diagnosis with incomplete information nor can you assign legal responsibility without all the facts. I think we weren’t given the proper information because the story is as much about House and how he came to have the muscle removed and his relationship with Stacey and the fact that his leg went undiagnosed for 3 days and the resulting problems rather than who was to blame and who held legal responsibility.
    If we debate legal responsibility, in House’s case, there would be many medical malpractice suits. As it is, Cuddy has said she set aside x amount of money each year for House’s legal fees, BUT, that’s not part of the story either and wasn’t meant to be. I think, although I respect your right to have this opinion, that your fight is not with the medicine or the legal responsibility but with Cuddy and only Cuddy. Remember, this fandom doesn’t exist in a vaccum…….Just a suggestion……
    #79 bakerstreet blues We all also know that the more House cares , the more he deflects and his tossing off the Cuddy explanation is very in character for him because when he cares, he cares very deeply and he feels guilty as well that he lost control. For someone like House, loss of control is a huge thing. In character for House , if he no longer cared about Cuddy, would be to ask and receive answers about her. I’m sure Cuddy would feel just as guilty and have just as much anguish as House.
    To All…Don’t worry, I won’t post here again……This site is jam packed with Cuddy hate and of course it’s everyone’s right but oddly, she’s not even on the show this season and yet the hate keeps piling up. In fact, more of the posts are about dislike and blame for Cuddy than about the new season of the show. But then again, there are a lot of posts and that’s what counts anyway. Just my opinion…..

  • Earth Orbiter

    I give up. I’m not clever or creative enough to create an imaginary backstory that would rationalize the gross medical and legal malfeasance that made up Three Stories. My final response is that, from a purely medical and legal standpoint, it was a badly-written episode.

  • Droid (and everyone): I say again. All POVs are welcome here, and there’s no need for anyone to spew hate at characters or the actors who play them.

    There is room for interpretation and backstory for anyone to create–and discuss, so let’s all be civil, eh?

  • HouseMDFan

    @Droid – I’d rather you stay and post your thoughts. Of course, I’m biased, since I happen to agree with a lot of them 🙂

    @EarthOrbiter – The point Droid tried to make is this: Yes, from a medical and legal POV, you and Visitkarte may be right. But you perfectly demonstrated the problem with this kind of reasoning: Three Stories is “a badly written episode”. You won’t find many people in House fandom agreeing with you there, and the reason is that the black and white medical and legal approach isn’t what the show does. You can’t take a show that looks at its characters and the world in shades of grey, and try to put blame on characters with a black and white grid. It just doesn’t fit and doesn’t do the story justice. It IS informative to know these facts, no doubt, but they are not useful if they are used to judge the characters, and that’s what started this debate in the first place.

    @Nickel – I have no idea what secret Wilson’s supposed to have spilled here? The Buraku story? Definitely not, as if Foreman would give House an office because of that. As for spilling secrets: Remember House decorating the whole hospital with porn posters starring Wilson, while Wilson asked Chase to keep House’s secret about his biodad?

  • ann uk

    Thanks for putting the case for House so eloquently.I find the outrage expressed by some viewers over House’s crashing into Cuddy’s house rather odd.It seems to represent Cuddy as the innocent victim of an unprovoked attack and ignores the part her own actions play in precipitating the crisis.
    Remember that when House wants her to be with him in the operating theatre because he doesn’t trust the surgeons , he says ” I trust you”.In other words , in spite of the pain her cruelly abrupt rejection has caused him , he still respects her and believes in her honesty.So when she tells him that she is not dating anyone he believes her and yet she is already considering a new and more convenient lover.A lie by ommission if not by action.
    It is clear that when House goes to her home he is intending to make peace, even to take the blame for the breakup.It is the shock of finding she has lied to him and that their relationship , which meant everything to him, appears to be so lightly discarded , that triggers an act of temporary madness.
    Similarly, Wilson’s total abandonment of House is an act of betrayal. Up to that point he has sympathised with House and , while he must of course condemn the extremity of House’s reaction,does that mean he must deny their friendship altogether ?
    In his better moments Wilson acknowledges that House is a good friend. It was House who baled him out of jail,who not only saved him from making a disastrous speech but took the risk of making it for him and, above all , it was House who risked his sanity and his life to try to save Amber.

    Cate Milton ( Frozen) who is very perceptive of House, is also very sceptical of Wilson’s ” goodness”.Wilson says of himself,”My whole life is one big compromise. I tiptoe around everyone like they’re made of china. I spend all my time analyzing, ” What will the effect be if I say this ?”Then there’s you. Your a reality junkie.You’d smack me over the head with it.Let’s not change that ”

    In other words, Wilson’s ever ready sympathy is not a spontaneous expression of natural empathy, but as much a disguise as House’s misanthropy.What binds him to House is House’s authenticity – at bottom ,in spite of all his real faults, House is a fundamentally good person and a good friend.

  • Visitkarte

    @Earth Orbither @all

    I don’t think “Three Stories” was anything but brilliant writing. I was just using an example trying to show that all characters are flawed, that, in fact, more than one has done things that deserve jail & losing the medical licence. Cuddy of all people, badly so, Stacy, too, and, to go on and on, every single one of them (Chase/Dibala, Foreman/Cameron – he stabbed her with an infested needle to force her to go in the potentially lethal flat, all of them for braking/entering) and so on.

    It doesn’t mean they should be prosecuted, from the dramatic POW, it only means, if they were, they would be deep in trouble. Only when I mention that Cuddy of all people, did something highly punishable, people start to disagree. It must be an irrational reason, because I don’t know how someone can try to argue against the facts.

    2. The catch about the janitorial closet was brilliant. The conclusion, Wilson must have spilled the beans, less so. Nobody’s perfect. I felt alone the small “office” with no windows, with nothing but a desk and two chairs, was depressing enough; The fact it was the janitorial closed, somehow, gives this scene e very special, rather upbeat touch. Like: The Buraku is back again, and boy, he will shot them all!

  • Visitkarte

    @ann uk

    THIS. Thank you. Nothing to add.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – If it’s just about all of the characters having done something objectionable at times and being “flawed”, then this simple statement is quite mundane.
    But if you start comparing the Cuddy/Stacy/leg situation with the Chase/Dibala incident, with the Foreman/Cameron action, with House’s deed in Moving On or House’s prescription forgery, then I can only say: You are comparing apples with oranges. All of these things might be “illegal” in some way or other, but this label says nothing about the ethical and personal problems involved, about the stories that are told and about the very different circumstances of each of these.

    @Ann – Wilson’s total abandonment of House is an act of betrayal.

    Aha. And House forging Wilson’s name again after Tritter and abandoning an injured Wilson to flee the country is what? House is a man of action, not declarations, so what about these actions suggested to Wilson that House was still his friend?

  • Visitkarte

    96 – HouseMDFan
    Sorry, I seem to be too stupid to make a difference between apples and oranges. I am too stupid to see how a murder is worse than a lasting physical injury, and permanent physical damage because of battery is on the crime scale higher than damaging someone’s property, spectacular or not.

    Since I am so stupid, and everyone else has a master degree in Medicine AND in law, I’ll drop the subject. Everyone else must know better.

  • HouseMDFan

    Okay, in short: I conceded the principal legal side of the infarction to you days ago (since I indeed do not have professional knowledge there), but what you can’t seem to understand in my argument is that IT IS NOT ABOUT MEDICINE OR LAW. I can shout if from the rooftops if you want. It makes no sense to even put all of these things on a “crime scale”, because that’s not the point of the story. (Also, do you know what a strawman argument is? If not, you should look it up.)

  • DebbieJ

    Okay, maybe it’s a bit too early and the coffee hasn’t entered my blood stream yet, but can someone explain the significance of the janitor’s closet, please?

  • HouseMDFan

    @Debbie – House’s Buraku story in “Son of Coma Guy”. The Buraku was a doctor disguised as a janitor because of his social position, and now House has picked up the trash in the first episode and got a janitor’s closet as a new office in the second – thus literally becoming this Buraku. Very cool symbolism.

  • Visitkarte

    98 – HouseMDFan

    Law system doesn’t exisit in a social vacuum. The reason why something is higher in the criminal punishment scala then others: It’s because it has a worse impact on the society and on the individuals. So law matters, even if it isn’t about to be executed.

  • DebbieJ

    @HouseMDFan #100 – Thank you. Yes, I remember his story of the Japanese janitor/doctor in SOACG. These are the types of things I love when the writers get it right and you can connect the dots from one episode or season to another.

    Continuity and symbolism. Very cool. Just wish I caught it myself instead of it having to be explained to me. C’mon coffee, kick in already! 🙂

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – The point is that you were defending House, relativizing what he did, by inculpating everyone else (“if House is a criminal, then Cuddy is too”), even stating that Chase and Cuddy are worse criminals than he is from a legal POV, and you did so by applying a black and white legal POV that is not inherent in the show’s narrative. My point is that these things aren’t comparable, that what Cuddy and Chase did or didn’t do has no bearing on what House did and how he gets treated for it, and that the black and white legal POV doesn’t do any of the incidents (including House’s!!) justice and ignores the context and the show’s way of telling stories. Clear enough now?

  • Nickel

    Well if you want some real symbolism, lets look even deeper. 2 sick lungs in a box? House in a BOX, he looked like he was still in solitary confinement when Foreman got him out. They basically both had 12 hours to live. It was my understanding when Foreman told House that “I need you to solve this case and to do it without making it look like I can’t control you, for BOTH of our sakes” either House solved this case or went back to prison. So yea, those HOUSE WRITERS rock.

  • Nickel

    HouseMDfan103….I think the point here is that “PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES”. Of course this show is full of judgmental characters so I guess that quote doesn’t really work.

  • Nickel

    Joan#50 In all 7 seasons of House MD there were 2 times that House treated a patient “against their wishes”. First was Stacy’s husband, and that was because he couldn’t allow Stacy to feel the loss that he himself felt and the 2nd was Ezra Powell. House treated Powell EXACTLY in the fashion that Powell would have expected to be treated. He himself never quit on a problem until he had an answer (noted by House in the cardio lab while speaking with Chase and Foreman). Both of these instances were the greater good in the fact that the answer was achieved and therefore could be dealt with in perspective. I do not count Arlene Cuddy’s treatment since House did that against HIS OWN WILL. So lets not dwell too much on who’s wrongs are bigger.

    I gotta tell you, I would have not only sued the crap out of PPTH, Stacy and Cuddy, but would have owned that hospital had surgery been done against my will only to leave me in WORSE condition than I was prior to the coma. I found the comparison in Humpty Dumpty interesting. Cuddy did not want to cut her handyman’s hand off because he would no longer be able to work….oddly enough it was no problem for her to operate on House since his work was intellectual. I wonder how quickly she would have crippled him if he was a profession athlete? The emotional response in Stacy and Cuddy’s decision is what caused the problems for me. Cuddy had no problems fighting for the life of the unborn child in Fetal Position (be damned if the real patient dies, that is unimportant to her). Cuddy’s medical decisions are almost always personally based. I also found it interesting that in Help Me, when House presented the exact same case to Cuddy in fighting for his patients life (leg) she immediately assumed his argument was person against her. Odd. These two arguments are almost identical in text, yet House is a jerk and she is always right? And oddly enough as we all know…House was right and should not have amputated her leg.

  • Visitkarte

    @103 – HouseMDFan @all

    I am very well capable of deep analysis of the characters and their actions. I just don’t think I have the right to assume my POW is anymore valid than someone else’s. Because this is a drama show, so everyone is allowed their own opinion.

    I am, however, allowed to argue about facts.

    Now I will drop the facts, because, if anyone didn’t get what I was trying to show until now, he won’t, no matter what I say.

    House did a terrible thing, and I never hid that I wanted to see him doing time for that, even if he technically could have gotten out of it. Luckily, the character is the hardest judge of his own actions, and he got himself in jail for far more than any judge would have sentenced him. If you don’t believe me, than at least believe the writers, who spoke out of the mouth from Dr. Adams.

    Why I still think House is, for all his flaws, every often the morally superior figure to many other characters of the show is, that he owns up to his failures, he gives them more weight than to his undeniable successes.

    He managed to stay almost two years off Vicodin, while still suffering chronic pain. In Europe no doctor would try and force chronic pain sufferer to go without opiates, if the non opiate treatment isn’t enough. The patient decides what he is willing to take and when too much is too much.

    Anyway, he managed that. And then he relapsed, in a very dire situation. Did you hear him make excuses for him, denying when directly asked? No, he owned up, and I think he was honest when he said he took one pill.

    When House does things he thinks are wrong, he owns up. He won’t go running to offer every self incrimination voluntarily, but he owns up, especially to people who deserve honesty (of course he pledged his fifth with Tritter, he would be insane not to).

    Fact is, he owns up. He is not trying to cover up like Chase, play with the colleague not to rat him out like Foreman did with Cameron, and he won’t go behind their back like Wilson does (his multiple manipulations, especially with Detox and Meaning).

    I never heard Cuddy apologize for her part in House’s debridement surgery. If she felt guilty, I never saw her tell him that. What isn’t shown on the show, I guess never happened. I assume Stacy told him what he did and felt sorry, and first he tried to stay with her, but then, for various reasons, he wouldn’t or he couldn’t.

    So, despicable actions and less than appropriate behavior, House is for me still the one person with very deep ingrained moral standards, with a sense of compassion and guilt he’d be mortified to let anyone know. He still shows us glimpses of that (I have hurt you before, and I will hurt you again. I am the most screwed up person in the world). A real sociopath would never do that, a really selfish person would never act like House does.

    On the other side, the other characters on the show are very fast to assume everything is House’s fault, and hardly anything their own. It’s often House who gets them to rise to the challenge. Just like he did with Dr. Park, helping her admit what he did to her parents. She will be surely far better off than without his influence, without her call.

    Embrace your inner bitch. No, House wouldn’t advocate for her to get more and more violent. But what he wants to say is, be honest with yourself. Admit that you are this person, with this boundary issues, with this aggression potential. When you finally do that, you have the chance to try and control this character trait you have. As long as you keep on making excuses (I did it because he grabbed my behind) and leave it like that, you have no chance to see your own part in the mess and you will repeat the same thing every time, with no chance to try and exebit any kind of control.

    Cuddy never faced her failures. She always made excuses for them. How she fled the city. But he can’t flee her own problems, and no matter where she goes, her insanely high standards are staying, and her chaser mentality will stay, and she will always drop her boyfriend as soon as she feels that she has got his undying love, and start looking for greener pastures. She dropped her Husband Nr. 1 short after the marriage, she dumped Lucas who was everything she claims she needs, she dumped House as soon as he declared their relationship more important than his medical gift.

    Everyone is allowed different opinion on these points. I am only trying to explain mine.

  • Earth Orbiter

    Rock on, Visitkarte.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – Agreed to disagree and drop our previous argument.

    Since you were talking about facts, though:

    she will always drop her boyfriend as soon as she feels that she has got his undying love, and start looking for greener pastures. She dropped her Husband Nr. 1 short after the marriage, she dumped Lucas who was everything she claims she needs, she dumped House as soon as he declared their relationship more important than his medical gift

    We don’t know that about Husband #1 and she never claimed Lucas was all she needed. The reason she dropped House is solely your own interpretation. You are entitled to that, but I don’t see it supported by canon, I actually believe the reason she gave in Bombshells, because I find it to be very plausible. She also DID admit that it was her fault and that she was being unfair in Out Of The Chute.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Nickel – House wasn’t in solitary confinement anymore, and it’s not quite clear if the initial release was only for this case or indefinite.

    As for judgmentalism, I’m not denying that House is certainly the least judgemental of them all a lot of times, but I thought it was actually rather noteworthy that most people in this episode weren’t very judgmental towards him! Foreman certainly wasn’t, and he does have quite an arrogant streak at times, so that was nice. Wilson wasn’t either, because his rejection had nothing to do with moral judgements, but was grounded in a good/bad ratio. Park made that quip about violence and driving her car into her parent’s house, but that wasn’t very judgemental, and finally Simpson and the others tried to ignore the issue altogether.

    House only going against patient wishes TWO TIMES? Nope. Open disregard for the patient’s wishes can be found at least in DNR, Insensitive, Living The Dream, The Itch and House Divided. And this doesn’t count cases that are very hard on the border between disregard and manipulation, like Poison or Unwritten.

    Cuddy had no problems fighting for the life of the unborn child in Fetal Position (be damned if the real patient dies, that is unimportant to her). – Nope, Cuddy did what the patient wanted, who was just as hell-bent to save her kid’s life as Cuddy was. (Which is not to say that Cuddy didn’t have personal reasons, but she did NOT ignore the patient, on the contrary.)
    Cuddy’s medical decisions are almost always personally based. – That’s because we got to see Cuddy being a doctor almost only in very special circumstances, those circumstances being that the case mattered to her. All the other times weren’t on the show.

    And oddly enough as we all know…House was right and should not have amputated her leg.
    That is very open to interpretation, she might have died without the amputation just as well. House himself was convinced he made the right decision: “I did everything right. She died anyway. Why the hell do you think that would make me feel any better?” I think this way the episode and its tragedy is much more powerful.

  • Maria-Eleni

    @Visitkarte and also @Nickel and @all other House defenders who finally reappeared.

    Thank you!
    I got so tired of the anti-House comments these past months, I decided not to comment on anymore, but you are expressing my views and more….

    I love this conversation even the anti-House opinions.
    Keep it on!

  • Visitkarte

    @ 109 – HouseMDFan

    Nope. These examples you mentioned are not just facts, they are open to interpretation, since we have no way of knowing that part. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on these parts. I saw a pattern there, you didn’t. It’s good thing we are all different.

    @ 111 – Maria-Eleni

    I agree on this: I also enjoy (almost) every post, the House critical arguments as well. House has so many critic-worthy streaks, I am glad to read them and try to say why I see some parts differently, because I see redeeming qualities where others don’t. That’s why discussions are fun.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Maria-Eleni – I just want to say that I’m in no way anti-House. I realize it may look like it at times, but it’s the opposite actually. I usually end up defending House, only here am I ever prompted to point out that no, the other characters aren’t actually bad and House isn’t actually the poor misunderstood guy. It’s just that glorifying him and blaming everyone else gets on my last nerve, especially because I love the character so much and hate people patronizing him, oftentimes ignoring his own statements along the way.

  • Droid

    Visitkarte #97 #101 and #107 OK I have to comment even though I said I wouldn’t. First, no need to be passive aggressive here. No one is accusing you of being ignorant. We are having a discussion and we don’t agree but I also say, you can’t have it both ways. It’s either your point of view about the actions on the show OR you are giving the legal and medical point of view as it relates to the story. You said and I quote “I just don’t think I have the right to assume my POW is anymore valid than someone else’s.” Yet you have pointed out twice that you have a law degree and a medical degree which makes it appear that you are indeed not just giving your opinion as a viewer of the show but giving your professional opinion as well with the implicit expectation that everyone should take what you said being more important than what others are saying,(as was implicit in the following comment), “Since I am so stupid, and everyone else has a master degree in Medicine AND in law, I’ll drop the subject. Everyone else must know better.” So, from this comment, it doesn’t appear you were just sharing your opinion but were pointing out that because you have a degree in medicine and in law and no one else does, then your point carries more weight.
    I don’t think HouseMDFan is trying to say that you aren’t capable of having a deep analysis of characters and their actions but that you are not responding to the point of the discussion. This is what is meant by the strawman, which you are no doubt aware of with a law degree. The idea is that you are not addressing what was being discussed but creating another discussion which is different from the comment made and then using that point to argue against instead of what was being discussed. It seems that you are using other peoples transgressions to compare with House in order to make them look like the villain while making House appear to be the one who was mistreated in each instance. THIS IS NOT THE POINT WE ARE DISCUSSING. It does not matter. Real life laws and medicine often do not have relevance in story telling where the story weavers are making an entirely different point that has nothing to do with either law or medicine. The story, told from House’s point of view is a way of telling stories. It’s called the unreliable narrator. It doesn’t mean that House is lying but that he is telling the events from the way he remembers them or the way he wants to remember them. This is suggested in the way the other stories are told as well and since no one relates exactly what happens and the facts are slightly changed to detract from the actual facts, to distract the listener and to hide a few little important things (like the farmer telling his doctor that he was bitten by a snake when in reality it was his dog). Surely these stories were told as parallels to House’s story for a reason. I think we are meant to understand that what is being said is a bit of a trope in that the facts and the telling are unreliable but yet there is truth hidden somewhere in the facts presented. This is not to make House look like the villain but is simply a way of telling a story so that the listener realizes that they are hearing a collection of facts but not necessarily THE facts and in THE order as they relate EXACTLY to the story being told. I believe this is one of the things that make Three Stories such an outstanding episode, that made it an award winning story, the reason that it is still one of the all time fan favorite episodes and that it continues to be Shore’s favorite as well. It was cleverly written and in such a way that we are never sure of the exact facts but are entwined in the story and in House’s history and that we feel incredible love and empathy for this unreliable narrator. The point was never who was to blame. It was never intended as a literal story and in fact, I think it was written in such a way as to make the audience THINK and WONDER, not find a set of truths with which to judge either House or the other characters. You can’t apply logic where non exists. Telling this kind of story is an art and is very difficult to pull off. In this instance, David Shore was crazy successful, probably beyond even his wildest dreams. I really didn’t want to go here but I think this discussion has gotten to the point where it can’t be avoided. It’s not about you and your point of view. It’s about the fact that you are offering a strawman argument to a situation where there shouldn’t even be an argument because there is nothing to argue! This is not a literal story. There are facts but the facts are not the kind that can be offered in a court of law or in the boardroom or in the operating room. I really can’t explain this any better and I hope what I’ve said is clear because it’s driving me crazy to hear arguments about facts gathered from this kind of story telling where the story is not meant to be about the facts.

  • Maria-Eleni

    113 – HouseMDFan

    Oh! I recognise from your previous posts that you are not anti-House. That’s why I mention “anti-House opinions”. It’s the reason why I appreciate this give and take as I do not perceive empathy but different outlooks.

    As for glorifying House I do not think that is the case. What I see is that after a continuous – but not universal- backlash against the character, the new Se8 episodes, which are rather excellent, give the opportunity to defend the better qualities of the character who was lately depicted as a cold blooded would-be murder and domestic terrorist.

    Anyway, [H]ouse greatness lies in the fact that almost everything is left to the viewers perception and judgement. Which is probably why it is so much appreciated. As viewers we are left with a kind of “freewill”, we are not brainwashed. However, it also results in controversy; but is that bad? After all discussing differences on critical opinions sharpens our minds and leads to better understanding, always considering that others’ opinions can be accepted even if not in agreement.

    In [H]ouse, details, strict observance to reality, real time, laws, economics and logistics are taking second place to the main character’s journey though pain -physical and emotional-, failures and successes, his way of reacting to humans, their characters/problems, his outlook to socio/philosophical issues, his anarchy and general social ineptitude etc, etc.
    45 minutes is too short, and the show is already densely presenting all the above. So, for me at least, the fact that some more “mundane” realities that are dispensed with does not distract from the quality. After all it is not a documentary on rare medical cases.
    But then I am not american which might account for not being very interested in hospital legalities and such.

  • Droid

    116 – Droid
    Oct 15, 2011 at 5:27 pm (or soon after)

    Is seems apparent that being pro House means never ever saying he was wrong. OK, This is an over statement but really you guys. If someone says one word that House was culpable for any reason, then that person is considered anti House. One doesn’t have to blame each and every other character and always support House in order to be pro House but it seems that this is what has resulted since the finale. If a reviewer says anything negative about the show then they are considered a hater and told they shouldn’t even review the show. If there is only praise and understanding and good words for a show, then we aren’t usually getting an honest opinion because nothing is that perfect! As I said before, Cuddy hate abounds here. Is there a fear that if House isn’t perfect then all our love for him is misplaced? It’s so very unhealthy to be devoted to a person, real or fictitious, to the extent that we avoid just criticism and feel the need to blame others and to create culpability in order to prove the object of adoration is worthy. Why can’t House be loved as the very flawed character that he is? Why can’t the people (flawed as they are) whom he loves, be loved because he loves them. Neither House, Cuddy nor Wilson is without extreme personality flaws. They aren’t even really the best for each other at times BUT they are friends! They are long time friends who love each other in spite of each others flaws and foibles. NO, they don’t always show it in the best way nor are they always reliable friends. Sometimes they are selfish. Sometimes they do terrible things to each other but THIS is the story we are being told. They are all screwed up people with BIG issues yet the story we are told is that they, in the end, love and trust each other more than anyone else in the world. I have no idea how the fandom got to the point where you were either for House and House ONLY or you were against him. We can’t make this story fit real life expectations because it doesn’t and I don’t believe Shore ever intended it to mimic real life yet people not only judge all the other characters as unworthy of House but also judge all the fans in their love and dedication to this character and most seem to come out lacking. You know what? This is ridiculous! Judgment was never meant to be the premise with which to watch the show. Just as there are so many differing opinions in this world, there are also different ways to love this show and the character. The words “real fans” has been bandied about with impunity b y so many as they judge fellow fans and it is considered a “mortal sin” to have an opinion that differs from “House is G-D”! THIS hurts the fandom but more important, it hurts the show and it hurts the show SO much more than any criticism might! Think about it

  • Visitkarte

    @ 114 Droid

    What I wanted to explain is that everyone seems to understand politics better than a politician, everyone knows about coaching sports better than the coach, and everyone seems to understand medicine better than a doctor. I didn’t imply I were a constitutional lawyer, although my habilitation was about the subject of Informed Consent. That’s why I am a bit overly passionate about this, both professionally and privately. If you like it other way, fine, tell it to your doctor when he/she decides to cut out your limb or kidney or uterus or prostate or whatever without asking for your permission.

  • Maria-Eleni

    116 – Droid
    You should read the comments following previous articles of Barbara Barnett.
    This is the first time in months that “pro-House” comments outnumber the ‘pro-Cuddy”.

    I would like also to remark that I do not find uncritical adulation in the “pro-House” comments. Most of us acknowledge his faults and shortcomings.
    But there is certainly a lot of EMPATHY for House. After all why spend so much time watching and commenting on the show if we did not feel that for the central character?

    To be honest, I find stranger the adoration and idealization given to the peripheral characters resulting in antipathy bordering to hate for the title character and the creators of the show who after all offered us several years of enjoyment.

  • ruthinor

    You guys should go to the “polite dissent” website. The folks there are funnier and don’t take themselves as seriously. Glad I left this “black and white” swamp for places easier on the soul. I’ve never seen so many people so sure of themselves….kind of reminds me of House! I lost all hope for this series long ago, but now that they’ve turned Wilson into a complete ass-licking wuss, I watch, delete, and go on with my life. Adios, suckers!

  • HouseMDFan

    @Visitkarte – It is a FACT that Cuddy did not dump House directly after the events of Recession Proof but after the events of Bombshells, and it is a FACT that Cuddy said “It was my fault, I should have known” about her relationship with House. If you want to interpret her behaviour as dumping House because he finally loved her, “never facing her failures” and being a “chaser”, go ahead, but you will have to come up with actual arguments for it. Or not of course, but then that’s naturally the end of any discussion.

    And @Droid – I don’t think HouseMDFan is trying to say that you aren’t capable of having a deep analysis of characters and their actions but that you are not responding to the point of the discussion.
    Yes, that is what I was saying, and VK’s reaction to your post shows that she still doesn’t want to do it, though I think that my point of discussion with VK was a different one than yours (explained it in 103). But as I said above, I’m dropping the discussion since I don’t see it going anywhere.

    Why can’t the people (flawed as they are) whom he loves, be loved because he loves them.
    Judgment was never meant to be the premise with which to watch the show.

    I don’t agree with everything you said, but I love you for these two sentences. There is a reason House loves these people, and while you don’t have to love them as well, I’ve never understood how putting them in a bad light is supposed to put House in a good one.

    @ruthinor – Well, you are certainly taking yourself serious enough to call other people names who were going about their business and not talking to you in any way.

  • ruthinor

    I guess you just don’t know serious when you see it, HouseMDfan!!

  • HouseMDFan

    @Maria-Eleni – Just ignore the haters and enjoy the love! (Which you were doing I realize.) 😉

    BTW! My Heart Will Go On. Was that a great song choice or what? Most over the top thing ever, completely not serious at all – and of course that’s why it WAS serious in House speak. Did you see the genius that was RSL there, Wilson *almost* succeding in hiding his grin? And I heard that this was the very first scene Charlyne had to do as Park, opposite HL and RSL and with a lot of medical speech. Not intimidating at all.

  • Droid

    Visitkarte #117 There is no need to keep pushing your credentials. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE LAW OR MEDICINE. Please try to understand that no one is arguing against your knowledge of medicine or law or your specialty and no one is trying to undermine your knowledge of said law or medicine! I appreciate your passion!
    Did you look up the strawman argument? How about the unreliable story teller? It would really help if you understand those two things. Then maybe you wouldn’t be focused on something we are not discussing and we can actually communicate. Your arguments are not relevant to the discussion. It is NOT about the law. It is NOT about medicine.
    Remember the apples and oranges application? We are speaking about apples. You are speaking about oranges and refuting what has been said about apples with an argument about oranges. They are not the same. They are two completely different things. You may be the worlds expert on oranges, BUT, we are NOT talking about oranges! I’m frustrated because there is no communication here so we can’t have a discussion when you insist on discussing something that is not the topic.
    There is no need to be rude about my lack of medical knowledge. It’s NOT the point but trust me, if I need an expert in informed consent or in medicine, I won’t go looking on an internet discussion board to find it.
    I’m sorry.I’ve tried but I can’t talk with you when you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the topic and continue to discuss something completely different. I know you are smart so I have to assume that, for whatever reason, you are doing this deliberately to avoid the real discussion. No matter. Let’s just agree to disagree about the topic of discussion and let’s not go near the argument itself.

  • Droid

    #118 – Maria-Eleni I agree there shouldn’t be hate for any characters. I couldn’t care less about pro House or pro Cuddy comments and don’t see why they should be mutually exclusive. That they apparently are, splits the fandom and causes ill will which, imo, is the worst of all!

  • Droid

    120 – HouseMDFan It would be no fun if we agreed with every single comment. As for the discussion/argument, I’m also finished and for the same reason. I think I should have followed my original plan but, hey, it was stimulating, til it wasn’t. Sorry.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Droid – Understand and share your frustration, but hey, that’s the internet. Just letting it go. And I’m glad you came back because: I couldn’t care less about pro House or pro Cuddy comments and don’t see why they should be mutually exclusive. Rock on my friend. 🙂

  • Nickel

    Visitkarte…..you rock. WILL YOU MARRY ME? Boy do we see eye to eye. I am female and am completely appalled at the behavior of women who “pounce on men”. The real moment that I fell in love with Greg House was in Joy. He went to Cuddy’s home to try and comfort her after seeing how much she truly wanted that child in the delivery room. Told her what he truly thought (by way of not looking directly at her), in his heart to help her feel better, she responded angry (understandable since she always believes he is a shit) and then kissed her. HE DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER WHILE SHE WAS VULNERABLE. Cuddy on the other hand swooped down on House at his absolute lowest and then tricked him into believing that she really loved him. During “Now What” I immediately noticed some things that concerned me greatly for House’s sake. Other than the fact that she thought it more appropriate for Wilson to think that House was crazy (by her hiding in the closet…yea real brave) HER TERMS!!! Trip to France? Her terms. My absolute favorite was the sneaky way in which she snatched up his Vicodin (after 5 hrs earlier telling him that it was his choice if he wanted to go back on drugs). I also acknowledge the fact that she dumped Lucas prior to coming to House’s apartment, so she was not leaving without a relationship with House.

    I always thought that if these 2 characters really had a chance at a relationship it should have started at Braveheart. She truly looked pleased at the fact that House revealed to her that she made him feel “funny”. Big of her to not relate to him then that there was no chance. She certainly had no problems telling him that in Top Secret…..get over me. HER TERMS!!!!

  • Nickel

    HouseMDFan….House in Help Me did EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, yes he did tell Foreman that he did everything “right” and she died anyway. What he DID NOT SAY WAS “HE DID THE RIGHT THING”. He knew the risks of amputation, but did it anyway because he believed Cuddy when she told him all those really positive things ending with SCREW YOU. Wow. So yea. I also believe when he got in that ambulance and looked at Cuddy he told her “goodbye” right then. He was not in anguish on his bathroom floor because of Cuddy…..remember who he saw in the mirror???? It was not Cuddy, it was HANNAH. She trusted him and he felt like he let her down. That is why the Vicodin…..not Cuddy.

  • Droid

    126 – HouseMDFan Same to you…….(so I’m a little dramatic) :-/

  • bakerstreet blues

    housemdfan I think the office that nickel was making note of was the one that Dr. Park was sitting in. You know the one that Cameron and Chase were having sex in….THE JANITORS CLOSET. I think Foreman giving House HIS office back was the payment of the contract of the fact that House did as Foreman asked: solved the case w/o making Foreman look bad. Very classy Foreman. Glad to see Foreman has finally grown up. Course Foreman was in a great win/win position: had Cuddy not quit he probably would have gotten House’s job.

  • bakerstreet blues

    I do find it odd that Chase, Taub and 13 all quit. I guess Foreman did not keep them on in House’s absence as Cuddy did.

  • I would never want to see everyone on my comment threads in lock step agreement with me, the show or anyone else.

    It’s great to see civil (mostly) discussion, debate and even disagreement. And the article still has managed to get 130+comments 🙂

  • Earth Orbiter

    A righteous cyber-smackdown: The Intellectuals v. The Sentimentalists.

    One question: What the frak are you people arguing about? The last time I checked in, we were “discussing” medical ethics and the law. Visitkarte, clearly an Intellectual, was defining “House” from a position of fact, and Droid, clearly a Sentimental-type person, was defining “House” from an emotional position. And now we’ve regressed into hyperbolic, drama queen-esque, verbal bitch-slapping and seemed to have strayed off-topic. If you cannot even agree on the issue being debated, then you certainly cannot come to a meeting of the minds of any sort.

    However, if you want something REALLY contentious into which to sink your teeth, check out:

    I am interested in your various interpretations of this article, especially you, RUTHINOR, who has provided me with endless entertainment and amusement over on Polite Dissent and the AV Club.

  • HouseMDFan

    @Nickel – I have no real hopes, but hey, I’m on a roll:

    (understandable since she always believes he is a shit)
    Or maybe, it was because he had been harassing her about her abilities to be a mother during the whole episode, openly ignoring her request for help. She probably also remembered his “Good thing you didn’t become a mother because you suck at it” comment, which she never called him out for in season three, even though she was completely crushed and crying afterwards.

    then tricked him into believing that she really loved him
    She did not trick him, she just told her heart and let him decide. And boy, this whole statement is seriously misogynistic, the evil woman tricking the helpless man. *shudder*

    Other than the fact that she thought it more appropriate for Wilson to think that House was crazy (by her hiding in the closet…yea real brave)
    You just talked about Cuddy tricking and pushing him into a relationship and then you turn around and take another piece of evidence for the fact that she wanted to let HIM decide if he was ready and turn it into something to make him look bad?

    Trip to France? Her terms.
    I call that compromise, since she didn’t want to do it at all initially. It’s not like she had a hospital or a kid.

    sneaky way in which she snatched up his Vicodin
    Funny enough, if you look at the original script, the scene was longer and they actually talked about the vicodin, that was cut afterwards. I rather liked that they cut it, since I liked the symbolism of it being the not-talked-about-but-threatening presence in the background.

    You do realize that by putting Cuddy down like that, you are making House look like a man who can’t decide a thing for himself and is completely helpless, gullible and stupid?
    Finally, “did everything right”/”right thing” is actually an interesting point, I’ll keep that in mind. It’s still not Cuddy’s fault, though, see my previous sentence.

  • Nickel

    Earth Orbiter…I just read that LE interview with TV Guide and yea wow. I made note earlier that every person that I saw interviewed about the loss of Lisa had great, sentimental things to say about her and how they really were going to miss her. Hugh Laurie’s statements were truly kind…(course he is a great actor so who knows?). What I have noticed is the silent scream that Lisa E has made. Not a single word about her co-workers on House. Nothing about how much she misses them. Odd. I always guessed that she ended an ugly affair with Nurse Jeffery and couldn’t handle working with him anymore…hahahaha..just joshing. Honestly I wish she was more congenial about the people that she left behind on House.

  • Nickel

    HouseMDFan, I do take into consideration that House is an 8 year old child, and can be completely manipulated by Wilson and Cuddy. And as for Cuddy, I always thought she defined herself by the fact that she alone is the only one who can control House. As for House being helpless, gullible and stupid?….well yeah. In matters of the heart House is all those things and more. Look how easily he believed Wilson, Cuddy, Cameron, Foreman and Chase in Meaning. The scene of him sitting in his office believing everything that these people told him about how screwed up he was made my heart break. So yea he is completely gullible.

  • HouseMDFan

    Ahahaha, now I’m beginning to wonder if you are actually a really elaborate troll… If so, kudos. LOL.

  • Maria-Eleni

    134 – HouseMDFan
    136 – Nickel

    Sorry, but I cannot refrain any longer. I am going to butt in your dialogue as I both agree and disagree with you.

    “Good thing you didn’t become a mother because you suck at it”. She does not call him out as she acknowledges the state he is in because of the Vicodin withdrawal. What crushes her is knowing he is right. And frankly, subsequent events proved that she is not the greatest mother.

    “then tricked him into believing that she really loved him”

    She is sincere. She loves him and tried hard for years not to get involved with him. The intense and tragic circumstances in “Help me” left her defenseless. A bit melodramatic but plausible.

    The closet:
    She did not hide to make Wilson think House was crazy, but neither did she hide to let House decide. She hid because she was less ready than House to face Wilson. I found that she was procrastinating finalising their affair(delaying the trip) and it shows in Se7x02 when she prohibits House to talk about them before going to the committee – a non-emotional procedure.

    “making House look like a man who can’t decide a thing for himself and is completely helpless, gullible and stupid?”

    He does behave more or less this way vis-avis to Cuddy. And, let’s face it, addicts when in need of their fix become “helpless, gullible and stupid”.
    I think his determination to win her is connected to his psychotic breakdown in Se5. In his hallucination, after detoxing with her help, he wins her.
    In fact Cuddy is a Vicodin replacement for House.
    He has become dependent on her as after the infraction she employed him and also created a great cocoon of an environment to protect him from his worse characteristics. But she also prevented him from leaving that milieu as in “Soft Side”
    Cuddy being his Vicodin he is able to function only with ibuprofen in Se7. In Se6 when he fears he is losing her he starts drinking heavily to compensate.

  • Droid

    Barbara…… You see…… As soon as any attempt at rational (and I use the word rational lightly because there is little discussion that isn’t based in who is to blame for House’s behavior, usually Cuddy) discussion ended, the Cuddy blame and hate begins anew and it gets nastier than before. Of course, in between, we have people who feel the need to call other posters names and be perfectly nasty to someone they were not even in a discussion with and to be aggressive with others. Then the Lisa E. hate starts, but yeah, great that there are so many posts. THIS is why I was reluctant to come here, why others tried to dissuade me and why I regret doing so now. Whatever your position, your site is riddled with Cuddy and LE hate and blame. It is also personal and not just story related. It’s a real shame.

    Sorry, @HouseMDFan, I guess I lied. It does matter!

  • Earth Orbiter

    @Nickel #135: “Ended an ugly affair with Nurse Jeffrey.” I like it; funny!

  • Shane

    Visitkarte and fellow droids:

    Thank you for reminding me why I don’t come to this site anymore. Your venom, hate and disrespect has reached monumental levels and could only rival the attitudes of the middle eastern terrorist. Bravo for diminishing the value and respect of this fandom. And thank you Barbara for providing the outlet. Please continue with this brainwashing and delusional training. Surely the grand finale will be an implosion.

  • Earth Orbiter

    Thanks for the cyber-spaking, Shane. Are you also into water sports?

  • Visitkarte

    @ 128 – Nickel

    LOL! Damn, I’m already taken

    @ 141 – Shane

    My ears are ringing

    @ 135 – Nickel

    I noticed something in that interview that made me smile. All these times, every single time I said Cuddy was a repressed control freak, I was bitch slapped for that. I am so happy the bith slappers have got another target now.

  • ParadoxHugh

    Reading along here and disturbed that discussion always breaks down like this into Cuddy/LE diatribes. Can we ever get away from this? Why continue to place focus on this? Cuddy is for sure the catalyst for where House is now and she matters as subtext to what he may be feeling. His reaction to rejection, his self punishment and how thick his walls may have become is the story now. That is really what I want to focus on for the rest of this season. This circling back to old agendas needs to stop if anything of a House community can ever be revived.

    So can we get back to the show or to Barbara’s review? She references One Day One Room and owning House’s ass being echoed by Foreman. That is not the only echo from the past. DS said he was going back to basics. By using these little homages to the past, we are reattached to the familiar even though House is clearly in transition and out of place. We also had House bullying a donor family member ala Greg Grunberg in Sex Kills. And they went right to the pilot in Wilson saying that House is not necessarily good but a good doctor. And we had a patient who is cancelling treatment and giving up hope. So there were these echos to tether us back to the past and make all this change a little more palatable.

    Barbara’s review said this too:

    —–He roams the halls in search of the creature comforts he thinks he needs to tap into his own medical mojo—–

    And one of those things is his chair from Pinto’s office. As metaphors go, having it stuck in the door is down right beautiful. He can’t have things the way they have always been. No matter how much he believes he has repaired his friendship with Wilson and no matter if he gets his team back or if he is surrounded by his things all perfectly in order, things are different now. And there is lots of unresolved stuff still “stuck in the door.” He can’t have his life back exactly as it was. Pieces are missing and evidently they will stay missing. Will the season be about removing the blockages or will it be about having House stuck in the same emotional space that he began with – fresh from hurt, rejection and pain. If these echos are an indication, we have taken steps backwards. And that is where my head is at now. We are starting over and I am trying hard to remember why I liked this guy in the first place. I’ll not forget that relationship as it has to matter just as Amber, Kutner and Mayfield matter as epic events that shape House’s perceptions.

    House lost something that mattered to HIM regardless of fan interpretation of that relationship. He paid a steep price for a false perception that she had lied to him about seeing another man. He was wrong with his assumption and wrong for his action. He hates being wrong and he hates failure. DS stated that House just can’t believe he failed so badly. So I choose to believe that the whole “incident” does eat at him on that level if not others.

    The whole feel of Transplant with everything being off and House not being able to go home again metaphorically,played perfectly for me. Despite his grin at the end, has he abandoned that thought he told the inmate,that he believes he does not belong amongst the “nice, normal people?”

    It just seems to me that there is lots more to these concepts of “moving on” and “transplantation” to discuss. And that can’t be done when the mere mention of Cuddy’s name inspires these off topic
    devisive rants. The two shows we have gotten so far have been better than expected for me. I am going to try to stick to the positives this year. I am simply battle weary and exhausted.

  • Screams

    Really, Barbara. So now people who disagree with someone on your site are called bitch slappers? Can we go any lower in the range of disrespect for fellow fans than to start name calling? Bitch slappers? Seriously? And I see you thanked this person on Twitter for her posts here. It’s really good to know how far this fandom has fallen. Not just name calling but crassness at its worst.

  • HouseMDFan

    @ParadoxHugh – I believe that House’s “failure” is not just the crash, but that he sees the whole relationship and his attempt to have a “normal” life as a failure. That theme surfaced in “Baggage” already, when he got himself beaten up for that reason, and when he was just incredibly angry about that, mainly at himself and at Nolan for giving him hope he could do it.
    So I don’t think that anything has changed about his statement that he doesn’t think he belongs to the “nice, normal people”, but that maybe he is okay with having his place among them if he doesn’t try to be like them. Also, the “nice, normal people” speech was before he conceded that no, he was not going to quit humanity and medicine completely. He is actually unable to divorce himself from humanity because he can’t change his gift and his desire to uncover the truth in medicine as well as people’s contradictions.
    The bodyless lung is actually a very nice metaphor for that, House’s perfect patient which ends up in a real human being, enhancing their life. House’s isolation, and then ending up in the middle of life again. I also like the symbolism of Wilson here, who cares for the patient as long as House is occupied by the lung, and then the two spheres connect again, Wilson being one of House’s bridges to humanity, therefore the significance of his words: “Wilson [not the patient] needs those lungs”.

  • Visitkarte

    “Wilson needs those lungs”

    What a sad and yet beautiful statement!

    Back in “TB or not TB” House stated, you can’t care about the countless people out there, dying. It’s just not compatible with the human nature. We are hardwired to care about our next. We can’t extend the number of “our next” as much as we want. House even less than an average person.

    He also said once (paraphrasing, it was in “Frozen”): “So I failed to see (the broken toe) because I cared too much. If this is what caring is, I don’t want to have anything to do with it”.

    He is sure, caring about people makes us less objective, makes him a worse doctor (see his discussion with the student in “Three Stories”).

    This time, he refuses to think about Wilson’s patient as the organ recipient; Wilson’s patient is not his patient, the lungs are. The only way he can manage to care about Wilson’s patient is, because the patient matters to his friend. Nothing wrong with that in my book. I can’t care for all my patients on a personal level, either, it would overwhelm me. I must try and find a distance, to stay professional. Compassion is OK, hurting with the patient isn’t. House seems incapable of compassion without getting too involved, so he will try and avoid involvement.

    The transplant in the box (by the way, the procedure is real, it has been done!) is a perfect metaphor for House. He is out of jail, but he is stuck. Like his favorite chair in the door. He must leave his past behind if he wants to get unstuck.

    It’s also funny and sad how he never cared if and how much he would earn by his new/old job. His only comment after he was told he was earning only a minimum wage: “I do? ” House is still punishing himself.

    He is trying to come to terms with the changes, but as we know, he is very attached to his things and to his team. He wrecked mayhem when his carpet was changed, until he got his old carpet back. He turned everything upside down to regain his old team at the beginning of Season 6. He hired a PD to get Wilson back once, now he vowed him back.

    I am happy to see his diagnostic chops back. And I am happy that he came to acknowledge that he needs to do diagnostic medicine, and he can completely remove himself from the “nice, normal people” because he has this one gift. That’s who he is, that’s who everyone else needs him to be.

    And as long there is even one single person out there to share some of his free time, he will be content.

  • ann uk

    I don’t think at that point House is thinking about his friendship with Wilson – in fact I don’t think he is thinking at all.
    My point is that House’s actions then don’t justify Wilson in abandoning someone who has been a true friend to him and who is in great distress.I can understand that he would be immediately shocked and angry , but to maintain it for over a year knowing how House must be suffering?
    Perhaps the real question is why House still values their friendship so much when Wilson has so signally failed him and he clearly feels it – remember that throw away line something like ” we’ll pass over the lack of visits “( I can’t recall the exact words.)
    And why does Wilson renew their friendship so promptly ? Is he being incredibly magnanimous, or can he not maintain his self – righteous condemnation faced with the real House in all his good and bad reality?
    They both have much to thank each other for and much to forgive – but that’s friendship for you.

  • Visitkarte

    Correcting: He CAN’T remove himself from the “nice, normal people” because he has this one gift.

    BTW; I loved the giant “white board window”.

    House refusing other relationships is not a bad thing in my book, I have seen many happy single people and many unhappy people in a relationship. Wilson as a friend might be all he needs.

  • Shane

    Thank you ParadoxHugh! A voice of calm and reason, disillusion but not giving in to the venemoushate and personal agendas. Barabara should be thanking YOU. These are the discussions to be enjoyed.

  • Eloise

    Any hate toward LE is because of the fans of her will jump to her defense no matter what she does but will allow bashing of Hugh and the other members of cast and tptb.
    Cuddy is of course separate from LE one is a character, one an actress, but the fact that some wanted their own vision to take place in S7 and now feel betrayed. It seems that LE leaving and the disappointment of the finale have become rolled into one.
    This is a tv show and imo the best on tv now even in its 8th season, but it isn’t real life.
    I don’t hate either actress or character but like lots of pple hate the double standards that seem to be going on all over the net.

  • Muna

    Barbara, I am concerned when you are happy with the nuber of comments for your blog when so many of the comments are not insightful discussions of the show but instead hate-related posts with regards to one character and actress. This is really quite shameful. You had credibility with me – as a viewer and writer – but allowing and encouraging hateful posts – not professional if you ask me. Posts about LE and her reasons for leaving when they are unknown to the poster – those should not be allowed at all. Your little blurb about personal attacks not being allowed needs to be enforced. If you are going to open your blog for posts – you have some responsibility to manage them. Slander should not be allowed. I am pretty sure you would not alllow posters to say these things about HL, or RSL. What I see instead is antifeminism flourishing here. For whatever reason, it is a woman being attacked – in some cases, I fear these attacks come from women because they are threatened by her strength – afterall – is she now allowed to make a decision for herself or her future? Is Cuddy the character also not allowed to make a decision for her own emotional well-being and her daughter’s? If it were Cuddy who had taken House back upon his return to PPTH there would be an uproar – she is so weak, etc., but when Wilson does it it is a celebrated friendship. The gender lines this show has made evident for me scare the heck out of me. We have not come far at all from the 50s. The character stuff is fine,unfortunate but fine, but Barbara, you have a responsibiity to stop the LE hate posts. This is really alarming and unacceptable. I hadn’t been on your site for a long time – and I am shocked at what it has become.

  • Shane

    Muna –

    You are correct. Although there has been concerning negative comments on other sites, we are on this one and dealing with a singularly focused Lisa Edelstein bashing. It’s disturbing and unprofessional to allow. Anyone trying to defend this behavior based on comment regarding Hugh Laurie or Robert Sean Leonard on other sites should remember: Two wrongs do not make a right. You are participating in the hate if you bash ANY of them and it’s unnecessary. This site needs stronger moderators.

  • BrokenLeg

    I’ve been out for only two days . I left this thread in a very civilized discussion about ethics and law aspects of one of the past greatest and most wonderful [H]episodes ever ( but curiously not discussing THIS season “Transplant”).
    I remember mostly enjoying Visitkarte and Earth Orbiter pure medical points of view posts, but many, many times, personally respectfully disagreeing with them both,they tending to view things too much rationally as only black or white , and with me being a part of the “shades of grey” team with some others.

    I’ve just returned to a full of hate thread, plenty of disrespectful posts, plenty of “ships”: “anti-Cuddy’s” that are mostly “anti-LE’s”, “pro-House’s” ones, supposed to be exactly by that reason “anti-Cuddy’s” ones (¿¿!!??)…Many posts with a tone more than insulting to others. Fully of rage. Some bashing an actress who left. What has happened? Moderator’s vacation?

    Or is all a consequence of ( I prefer to think unconsciously ) dividing the fandom from “the other part of the screen”, with a bad seven season ending for a great part of the fandom, a big “kaboom” showing GH out of character to many viewers, Cuddy’s role emptied of any lasting meaning to others, after a whole season in which it was re-written by TPTB as convenient to fulfill the break-up, and added to that, LE deciding not to return back to a show she always promoted generously, her reasons remaining secret, but not receiving a public support word in months from her former fellows? Still too much angry to be released by too many people!!
    All that I know now is that a new season is beginning, probably the last one, maybe it will not be the better one, nor the one everyone of us have desired. But, regretting many things that have happened, and maybe a bit disillusioned, I’m a [H] addict as all of you. That is what we all have in common. That is what gathered people from very distant places all over the world, of different countries, cultures, languages and points of view. And that is really the great important thing. Disagreeing is always good, if wise done improves other points of view, but only if done with respect to the others. This forum was a civilized one. Can we return to be that way again?

    And thank you , ParadoxHugh for your post. It is really a big relief to this forum.

  • ruthinor

    Earth Orbiter: Thanks, I think! I’ve never posted on the AV club site, and I don’t post under “ruthinor” on Polite Dissent. I’ve just skimmed through some of the latest posts and I think a lot of you are in serious need of therapy. I just don’t get blaming the actors for anything on the show. They are playing the roles written for them, not themselves in real life. Many of you seem to be very confused about that. If you don’t like a character, blame the WRITERS!!

    Someone mentioned LE’s TV guide interview. What’s the problem? What she said was that the role of Cuddy, as written, was, after 7 years too confining for her. It was not the person she wished to portray on screen anymore. What’s the big deal? It’s her choice, and IMO, a good one. The writers made a hash of her character and there didn’t appear to be any interesting future for her. As for her NOT praising her coworkers…many of you have very short memories. For 7 years LE has promoted the show and HL in particular. She was the one who always did the interviews that HL and RSL shunned. I’ve never heard HL say anything publicly about LE until he was asked about her leaving, when he couldn’t avoid it. Gotta go, this site is toxic.

  • Sunny

    Barbara. I am really concerned that the disrespectful posts concerning Lisa Edelstein are being allowed to stay here. Just offering the TV Guide article as a contentious piece is one thing but making fun of why Lisa left and suggesting she was sleeping with Nurse Jeffery is just mean and is not, in my opinion, joke worthy. (this could easily become an internet rumor with it’s origins right here at blogcritics). Don’t you think this is going too far? I know you have previously stated here that you think her leaving the show coupled with the fans disappointment with the finale has created a toxic fandom but to blame her and to allow others to suggest contentious things about her is, I believe, causing more problems. This kind of hate toward actors and toward fans (fans calling other fans here bitch slappers because they disagree with points made) can’t contribute to a more positive fandom nor will it offer any hope of lessening the toxicity that exists already. Of course I don’t believe that Lisa can be blamed for her choice nor should she be. I just find this kind of hostility disturbing on what was once, in my opinion, a well respected site.

  • Earth Orbiter

    @Sunny #156: Clearly, your remarks should have been directed at me. My response, therefore, is: Regarding the TV Guide interview, please read Ruthinor #155. Also, you need to lighten up. This is the most interesting this blog site has been for a very long time. Progress is made by disparate ideas. When everyone agrees, life becomes stagnant. And boring. As for people “making fun” of Lisa Edelstein, she’s a big girl and I think she can take it. Besides which, according to the TV guide interview in question, “House” is foundering in her wake; she left it behind months ago and is beyond caring what anyone thinks of “Cuddy.” And Nurse Jeffrey is ALWAYS funny.

    @Ruthinor: Sorry, but I would’ve sworn I’ve read you on other blog sites. Also regarding the TV guide interview with LE, I thought it was interesting that she remarked that the atmosphere at TGW was much “lighter” than that at House. With everything I’ve read over the years about behind the scenes, I figured House was an on-going giggle-fest in between takes. So its not surprising that she wasn’t too broken up about leaving. That’s what I found most interesting about that article.

    And lay off of Barbara, people. I almost never agree with her reviews; I think she’s too emotionally invested in the show, in Hugh Laurie and in Huddy, and I’ve criticized her for that in the past. However, she’s been sitting back and letting everyone have their say and without censure, especially since this is her site and she’s entitled to do as she damn well pleases. And right now, it pleases her to allow us to express ourselves, even those of you who chose to contempt over tolerance.

  • Cindy

    I`m sorry i can`t find any LE hate. Where is the problem here? Everything what was written before the LE defenders started to post allthough there was nothing to defend here were very reasonable, rational and thoughtful discussions with exception of this ass-licking Wilson post. I don`t understand the fuss here. Come on people! Don´t be so supersensible!!

    I pretty much enjoyed the first two episodes of the new house season and i hope the show stays on this level. i love the Dr.Park with her little aggresion problem and i think Charlyne portrayed her character very believable and exciting.

    Thanks Barbara for the review!

  • Paradox: Thank you, thank you. Please let’s get back to talking about the episode!
    I’ve been away from my computer for most of the last couple of days, so I’ve not seen any of the recent comments.

    Discussing a character (love or hate or in between) is fair game (remember, if 13 or Foreman disdain is OK, so is dislike of any character, including House). But please refrain from discussing actors personally, whether Hugh or Lisa–or anyone else.

    I do not see any “hate” for Lisa Edelstein, and no personal attack. That is something I wouldn’t stand for here from anyone about anyone!

  • ParadoxHugh


    Loved your metaphor explanations. I am glad the show is being written like this again where we can get crazy overthinking the meanings. That is the fun for me. I liked this alot:

    — I also like the symbolism of Wilson here, who cares for the patient as long as House is occupied by the lung, and then the two spheres connect again, Wilson being one of House’s bridges to humanity, therefore the significance of his words: “Wilson [not the patient] needs those lungs”.—

    Wilson is a bridge to showing us House’s humanity and that is the part of this show that interests me the most. It may not be the dominant part of his personality and it can be hard to find sometimes but I have to believe he has some. So I’ll always be looking for those little glimmers like the cricket last week and his words and actions with Wilson this week.

  • Paradox–yes!

    There was much significance in the “Wilson needs those lungs.” It was as if by giving Wilson this gift, it would begin to repair their friendship. No matter what Wilson said to him, this friendship means everything to House. He’s lost a lot (some of it his own darn fault), and he’s starting over after a year away from PPTH. This is going to be hard for him if he has no perceived allies. Wilson is his only anchor now.

  • HouseMDFan


    I don’t think the show ever stopped being written like that, but yes, I have fun with it, too.

    Wilson is a bridge to showing us House’s humanity and that is the part of this show that interests me the most.

    I actually didn’t mean my words about Wilson as House’s bridge quite in that way. This makes it sound as if Wilson is just a passive being, something that the show and House “use” to show his humanity. But the thing is, Wilson himself through is actions makes House see things differently, makes him consider perspectives he hadn’t thought about, however much House might mock him for that at times. Remember the scene where he is honestly taken aback because Wilson is offended by his “It will definitely pay off, no matter if your patient dies or not”? Sometimes House is so caught up in his own way of thinking that he needs someone to cut through that. Wilson can connect House to the “normal” social sphere sometimes, and House can connect Wilson to himself beyond his social persona.

  • As much as have disliked Foreman lo these many years (he simply has never seen House for who he is, although that changed significantly after “Help Me”), I love the fact that he dug up House’s belongings, procured his old office, etc. And more importantly must have personally placed his “stuff” painstakingly back on his desk.

    To me that is a huge vote of confidence (albeit with deep reservations, still) that House can come back and they can manage together. I think Foreman will have to keep using the “it’s better for both of us” card for awhile until House redeems himself completely.

  • Merkof

    @163 – Barbara Barnett

    The “it’s better for both of us” card worked because it was rational, and House needs that.

    I also loved the way Foreman put House’s “stuff” “together again”.
    Actually I found Foreman a pleasant surprise in the way he confronted House: He was dispassionate, clear, disapproving but not condescending and so avoided provoking House’s worse behavior.
    I believe that there was an additional motive – apart from the vote of confidence – for putting back the office together: If Foreman wants to use House’s capabilities in full he must have a House capable of functioning in full. He realises that House needs his ‘toys”. And Foreman would definitely not want House roaming the hospital, disrupting everyone by trying to retreat his “stuff” (a metaphor for “normality” or his old life), writing on glass panes and generally stepping on hostile toes.
    It is possible that by now Foreman is the one with the best understanding of how House operates.

    Of course House still came out with irreverent comments but there was a change. Instead of gleefully observing how his comments affected personally the recipients, this time he is trying to gauge their reaction in connection to himself, how much accepted he might be. It is almost a if he is asking “Is it OK for me to be my usual jerkish self?” (e.g. “prison”, bracelet talk with Foreman….)
    Foreman seems to have made it clear that it is not OK. Whether it sticks for either of them remains to be seen.

  • Paulac45

    Great review of a transitional episode that I thought was great and, like so many episodes, got better on subsequent viewings. Think Foreman as DOM could prove interesting as can imagine a few House/Foreman tussles of will down the road. the ‘punchline’ at the end was great and such a surprise it actually made me jump! From your review, and all the previous posts, I seem to be the only one who found the new doctor thoroughly aggravating in terms of how she is being played – as a cross between a Chinese cartoon character whose name I simply cannot remember, and Mr Magoo. don’t know if the ‘Mr Magoo’ look with the boring stereotypical hair and ‘kow towing’ type stance is deliberate, but definitely don’t like it – but the worst aspect is her high pitched irritating voice. The actress certainly played her character with more confidence than OA did hers in 20V, but I found her look and voice so irritating it was spoiling the scenes with HL. Hopefully when all the rest of the team are back on board she will fade into the background a bit! However, all that rant aside, the first two episodes of the season have been terrific – so well written, and beautifully played by HL. House at its Best!

  • HouseMDFan

    @Merkof – Nice observation. Foreman has worked with House very closely for the longest time, and he does indeed know that House needs some things to function in the long run. Just as he knows by now how House says thanks (“Well, this sucks.” “You’re welcome, House.”) and how House pays people compliments (by invading their privacy). I LOVED these things.
    Also agree with you about the fact that Foreman took a very rational approach to House, which worked quite well. House knows that Foreman is taking quite a leap for his sake, and Foreman’s “for both our sakes” speech echoes positively what House says negatively in the very first scene: “You think this is a good idea for either of us?”


    he simply has never seen House for who he is

    There is nothing “simple” about this, because who has? There are people closer to him than others, having seen and learned more over time, but basically every character has his/her own idea of House, including House, and isn’t that the point of the whole show? To examine and challenge and at times change those ideas, have them shed light on the characters themselves in return and see how they affect them? Every fan has his/her own idea of House, and almost everybody continues to judge him or the other characters based on that idea.

    Also, I don’t know what a “completely redeemed” House is supposed to even look like. In whose eyes? Maybe you are projecting the need to see him redeemed after the crash on a story-telling level on the characters’ reactions, first Wilson as an avatar for the audience and now Foreman waiting for House to redeem himself?

  • ParadoxHugh


    —-Wilson can connect House to the “normal” social sphere sometimes, and House can connect Wilson to himself beyond his social persona.—–

    Completely agree. There is a sort of symbiosis there. What did you think of Wilson saying “Another interaction in which I get nothing? Wilson perhaps just blowing off steam there or has he forgotten some of the things House has done for him like preventing career suicide at the conference?
    He said that the bad outweighed the good and maybe for the last year he became focused on that while he was alone. It reminded me of Chase saying in You Must Remember This that people should not keep score like that in a numerical sense. One amazingly good act can outwiegh many small slights. Anyway we will see more tonight whether things are back to normal or if there is still some unresolved business between the two.

  • HouseMDFan


    “Another” interaction doesn’t mean there were no interactions in which Wilson got something in return. And yes, definitely blowing off steam, he was completely unhappy with the situation he was in, with his patient as well as with House. Be that as it may, I think the point was – as Wilson realized at the end – that the whole “numerical” approach is inadequate.

  • MamaBear

    First off, want to say that this is not a flame – just making an observation. Articles are coming through with many an error in spelling, grammar, syntax. A once over after writing, perhaps?

  • MHM

    #141 Shane, that about sums it up (well, i don’t agree with the terrorist part, though. sorry. the rest, yes.)

    Popped my head in here for the first time in a long time, genuinely curious as to how people who are sticking with the show were reacting to S8.

    Too many things about, surrounding, and related to the show seem to have imploded, and I really have to disagree with people who think that the show is on par with what it once was.

    Well, if you’re happy, ….

    It really was the best show on television for a long time. Best of luck to all involved with the show and invested in the show after the final curtain call ends.

  • Elorea

    I agree it was a very good transitional episode. I’m glad to see Cuddy gone and see a little of the first House back again. Cuddy was a distraction. As for Foreman taking her job. Yuck. Foreman has always been an egotistical a$$ now he has an excuse to be an even bigger one. It may work though, two egos fighting each other.

  • C

    OK, weird. First comment rejected. Probably because of the link in it. Anyway, as I was trying to say, the bracelet that House wears on his wrist is a double chain friendship bracelet with three strands of brown and three strands of tan or cream (autumn colours) embroidery floss. You separate the strands by colour and make alternating forward and backward “4” knots, which are really just a long series of half hitches.

  • housefriend

    Again this episode was a vehicle for getting House back to the hospital and an exploration of the House/Wilson relationship.House is not pining for Cuddy because he never really wanted her to begin with,She was a substitite for the real love of his life-Wilson, This episode centered on Wilsons co dependency and devotion to House.Lots going on with Wilson and he is as much a main character as House-his friendship and devotion to his friend have met with some bumpy roads but it always wins out in the end.

  • Sam

    The bracelet that House was wearing on his right wrist is a black and white yarns which
    symbolize the (Yin and Yang) and it’s a Chinese philosophy,

  • Lucas

    First of all, thank you very much Barbara for this deep thought about the whole episode.
    I have to say that I like it, and I think it was better than the premiere. Better than many episodes from season seven. I didn’t like so much the fact that now Thirteen, Chase and Taub are gone. They are an essential part of the team. There’s no team without them. The introduction of the new team member, Dr. Chi Park, was cool. She seems to be afraid, at first, of House. But, like Barbara you said, she had the cojones to punch her boss. It was funny imagining the whole scene. Park seemed to me, that she had to work a lot to make herself exceptional, to prove it to House. She reminded me a bit of Masters. They were similar in personality. Well, after this episode, I was hoping that next episodes would be funny, and interesting, two things that HOUSE MD has shown to us for a long time.