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I have to say, I have been quite taken aback by the way Sarah Palin has been treated in some ways these past few days.

Almost as soon as she was introduced, there was the nasty rumor that she was never really pregnant, and was instead covering for her daughter. Aside from the fact that the story was demonstrably false, it is sad to see that people were willing to engage in such malicious rumor mongering. It is sadder still, that the Daily Kos chose to give the story such prominence when there was no proof at the time.

Then there was an incredible feeding frenzy surrounding the pregnancy of Palin’s teenage daughter. As Barack Obama rightly noted, “people’s families are off-limits, and people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics.” I feel bad for Bristol Palin that she has to go through such a trying time under the spotlight of the media glare. There is simply no reason to make Bristol Palin, who isn’t running for President, into a public spectacle.

I was also disappointed when some commentators asked how Sarah Palin was going to simultaneously run for Vice President and be a good mother. No one ever asks men how they will run for office and take care of their children. Seen in this light, it is really unfair to ask that question of Palin. It’s also sexist.

None of this is to say that the media isn’t right to ask hard questions. The media and Democrats should scrutinize her record. And no one should fear being called sexist for criticizing her record, or for exploring past statements and actions which don’t cast a positive light on Palin. There’s no shortage of things to go after. Contrary to her image as a maverick, she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, and she employed a lobbying firm to get federal earmarks as mayor of Wasilla.

It’s fair to ask if her views on abortion—like banning it even in cases of rape—is in the mainstream. It is fair too, to wonder if after two years as Governor of Alaska, one of our most sparsely populated states, and several years as mayor of Wasillia, she’s ready to become President at a moment’s notice. After all, the McCain campaign has said that a man who spent eight years as a state senator, and more than three as a US Senator is not ready to be President. There’s a lot we have yet to find out about Palin, and we deserve to thoroughly vet the woman who will be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

So the McCain campaign should not make her into a victim every time she gets asked a tough question. It won’t do for example, to make Joe Biden out to be a bully if he presses her in their Vice Presidential debate. However, Palin also has a right not to have her family’s privacy abused, and not to be asked questions that wouldn’t be asked of a man.

I do have to admit that I am astonished at how quickly some conservatives have become attuned to the double standards women face. Maybe John McCain will reconsider supporting the Ledbetter fair pay act, which he opposed because it might create extra litigation. But whatever McCain’s record on equal pay issues, can there be any doubt that his running mate deserves to be treated respectfully and fairly?

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  • http://www.conservativemusiconline.com Lance Morrison

    Hey, I am just a garden variety police officer with a few guitars, a bass, etc, so I wrote my response to The Left in song (‘North to Alaska’)

  • Arch Conservative

    The left in this country is so used to telling women what to think and what to believe in. Now Sarah Palin has come along and given a public voice to the millions of American women that hold conservative and por life views and the left doesn’t know how to deal with it so they’ve resulted to attacking her 17 year old daughter nad making horrible claims that Sarah Palin’s Dwon’s Syndrom child is not her own. This kid of ugliness can only serve to backfire.

    The left is absolutely terrified of Palin. Not only because she may beomce VP but because she is a woman that has become extremely popular while touting her conservative values. Sarah Palin has basically stood up and said “I’m a woman too and I don’t need Hillary Clinton, Gloria Steinam, NOW, PLanned Parenthood or any other left wing group telling me what I think.” It’s very refereshing. The left is also scared that she will become VP. They’re so used to telling everyone that the only strong capable owmen are liberal women and it galls them that there hero, Hillary, a woman that got where she is in life by riding the coattails of a cheating husband, has been cast aside.

    The writing is on the wall. The mean spirited, vaccuos lefties will contiunue to throw all kind sof mud at this woman hoping some of it will stick which will result in the GOP ticket getting a boost from sympathy voters. Barry Obama and Joe “I’m the smartest man in the Universe” Biden are going to lose this fall.

  • http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com Roschelle

    This whole thing is so bizarre to me. It’s like being in a bad dream and not being able to wake up. Palin was virtually unknown outside of Alaska just ONE week ago. A woman, who in her own words “wondered what it is a Vice President does all day”. A woman who wants to deny women the right to terminate a pregnancy even if conception occurs as a result of rape or incest. Now, she’s more popular than Obama or McCain. What does that say about the mindset of voters in this country. I’ve heard people express how much they love her, her kids, even her parents…who’ve only been shown on TV once at the RNC and have never uttered a word (as far as an interview goes) So what is it about her that has endeared her to so many people. The scandalous baggage that accompanies her nomination is as lengthy as the Bering Strait…yet she’s almost revered by every woman and some men that have been interviewed since the announcement by McCain that she would be his running mate.

    The “maverick” is looking more and more like a sidekick…merely going along with the powers that be…he says and does whatever he thinks his champions want to hear. Just like calling lobbyists ‘birds of prey’ which is a total contradiction to what his true ties with these unnecessary evils in Washington are.

    Come on America…are we so shallow that a pretty face is all it takes to win us over? Gov. Palin hasn’t given not ONE interview outlining her plans for this country as VP since McCain picked her….only pre-written rhetoric aimed at tearing down the Democratic nominee and his party. Even after her acceptance speech, I still don’t know who she is..

  • http://zardozz.com/zz/ ZZ Bachman

    “Come on America…are we so shallow that a pretty face is all it takes to win us over? Gov. Palin hasn’t given not ONE interview outlining her plans for this country as VP since McCain picked her….only pre-written rhetoric aimed at tearing down the Democratic nominee and his party. Even after her acceptance speech, I still don’t know who she is..”

    I understand your shock. But all I would ask is that the SAME LEVEL of scrutiny that will be placed upon Sarah Palin by the media be also placed upon Barack Obama. The playing field is at a 45 degree angle when it comes to the love fest the MSM has over the possibility of seeing history made on their watch. They have totaly abdicated their responsibilities as “journalists” — Many issues still surround Obama’s associations yet they have been glossed over by the MSM. Associations with Ayers, Wright, Rezco, Farakan, and his voting for a bill that was tantamount to infanticide. You can bet that the same approach won’t be taken with Palin.

    She is more than a pretty face, it’s her spirit and grass roots reforming attitude that is capturing the hearts of the moderate vote. A vote for the McCain / Palin ticket is a vote against the status quo given the track record and RESULTS and ACTIONS of these two individuals. Actions in the end DO speak louder than words, but only when the media gives a fair and balanced accounting of those actions.

  • Arch Conservative

    If the media were fair they shut thier mouths about Palin’s family life and investigate troopergate, her past position on the bridge to nowhere, her record of spending vs. taxes in Alaska while also investigating Barack Obama’s ties to the group Acorn which has been convicted of voter fraud and donated money to his campaign, Obama’s tax plan balanced against the spending he’s promised and his switching positions on offshore drilling and the oil reserve.

  • Jordan Richardson

    When Sarah Palin trots her family out member by member and discusses them during her speech with the purpose of using them as showpieces, there’s no good reason for the media to ignore her family life. The Republicans want the media to give her family life a positive spin, whereas the media doesn’t want to play ball.

    That’s what this is really all about.

    If the coverage was about how great her son was for going to Iraq, nobody would be making a peep.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    Please read, all of you, the below, before you take Palin to heart, and swalling the line that she has been treated unfairly. In fact, she has not been examined nearly closely enough.

    Her speech was full of falsehoods and outright lies. A speech is a speech and it was written for her (before she was even the nominee, in fact it was written for whomever was the VP candidate) by a McCain speechwriter. All she did was deliver talking points.

    I would like to see her go on Meet the Press, as Biden did today. She has been offered an invitation, but I seriously doubt she will take it, as McCain is keeping her away from one-on-one’s with the media, but rather, grooming her so that she can try and hold her own during debates with someone who is obviously so much more skilled and experienced in foreign policy. That should prove very interesting!

    Should the press have fallen all over itself to report on her child’s pregnancy? Perhaps not. But McCain DID use her “experience” as a mother when introducing her to the nation. So it was, in a sense, fair game. And she made great mention of her son, Track’s going to Iraq, made a big deal of it, when, you might wish to know, Biden’s son is also off to Iraq, and he made no mention of it at all, nor did Biden himself. Interesting, yes? They felt no need to blow their horns about their “patriotism.”

    Before you yell and scream that Biden’s son is going to be a lawyer there, know that Palin’s son has gotten guarding dignitaries as his duty. You can check it out.

    Anyway, read the below before you canonize Ms. Palin.

    here

    and here

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    The media is only reacting to what we crave. We crave Enquirer type journalism, they provide. We want to hear the scandals and misfortunes of those in the limelight, they provide. We want Wal-Mart quality journalism: substandard, low cost, quick gratification and poor quality. And, folks, our wish is journalism’s command.

    Insofar as Gov. Palin goes, the left can’t have it both ways. They scream for pro-choice and guess what? Sarah Palin made a choice. She chose to give birth to her 5th child. The Palin family rallied around their 17 year old daughter. She made the choice to have this baby. The point is that in cultures of old, Gov. Palin’s baby upon birth would have been sacrificed because of imperfection. In other rigid religion-based cultures, her daughter would be stoned to death for having sex before marriage. In this free society they made a choice. Isn’t that the whole message behind the pro-choice movement? The left has allowed the right to morph the term “pro-choice” into a buzz word for murder. In order for an individual to be truly pro-life they MUST be pro-choice and vice versa. Do the decisions the Palins have made have a place in the debate? Yes, they do provided that the points debated are done in a reasonable, civil forum. Remember that when all is said and done, Levi and Bristol have a baby to raise and would any one of us be so willing to be thrust into the national spotlight at such a young age? I think not.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    …know that Palin’s son has gotten guarding dignitaries as his duty…

    Lisa? Is this statement a subtle implication that Ms. Palin’s son’s service to this country is somehow less honorable? That’s how I’m reading it. What you failed to reveal is that he is also assigned to one of the most dangerous hot spots in Iraq. Regardless of Sara Palin’s politics, she still has a child going into the theater of war. She deserves some respect. And before you get rabid, Joe Biden deserves the same respect as a father who is sending his son off to war. Over 404,000 United States soldiers died in service to this nation in World War 2. That’s over 800,000 mothers and fathers who lost a piece of themselves for a cause greater than themselves. To lose sight of that tragedy just shows how cold, heartless and unfeeling the fringes of both sides of the aisle have become.

    You can attack Sarah Palin for her record in public service. You can criticize Joe Biden for his role in an ineffective Congress. But to make light of their respective son’s service to this country? That’s crossing a moral line. Oh, but I forgot, either side will say anything to make the other look like Satan.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    “Acorn” has NOT been convicted of anything. A small # of individuals were charged and convicted of voter fraud after they took it upon themselves to falsify registration rolls in order to earn a bonus.

    Acorn has worked assiduously in several urban communities to help minorities register to vote. Of course right wingers consider that a “pinko commie” bad thing because the great majority of those minorities support the Democrats.

    Obama’s “associations” have been looked at quite thoroughly. Republicans promote the notion of “guilt by association,” without proof of any wrong doing on the part of Obama.

    The notion that Obama has been treated with favor by the media is a matter of tainted perception. I have watched any number of interviews of Obama and others supporting the Democratic ticket over the past several months which were every bit as hard hitting as any McCain and the Republicans have received. I have read several articles, on-line, in magazines and newspapers which have been highly critical of Obama, some coming from the left. He is, despite some people’s perception, NOT getting a pass.

    Conversely, anytime a tough question comes McCain’s way, all his ardent supporters cry foul, saying that you musn’t challenge him because he’s a fucking war hero. McCain is milking that to enth degree.

    And Palin? Get over it. The moment she threw her hat in the ring, she opened both herself and her family up to scrutiny. It goes with the territory. The same was true of Obama who has been raked over the coals constantly with slander, lies and half truths since he declared his candidacy. Just look at Jerome Corsi’s totally stupid book. How anyone could lend credence to anything that man writes is a total mystery to me.

    As to her meteoric rise in popularity, I wonder how high Palin’s star would be in the heavens if she had a greater resemblence to, say, Janet Reno than to a “Tundra Barbie?” The heavy thinkers who have jumped on her band wagon are flooding the market wanting to buy glasses like hers, or have their hair done like hers. Perhaps, Palin could get an endorsement deal with Mattel for a “Mukluk Sarah” doll.

    Millions of women may in fact support her right-wing social positions regarding abortion, gay marriage, etc., but millions more do not. Some conservative pundits have claimed that Palin is a “true” feminist. Palin is NO feminist. She has no positions in common with feminist interests.

    In the end, this whole affair is totally out of balance. The glow surrounding Palin will fade in the ensuing weeks. Hopefully, the focus will return where it should, on the presidential candidates and the issues that face this country. If Palin/McCain wind up winning because right wingers have a collective hard on for “Babe Sarah,” then shame on them.

    B

  • MARLOWE

    You want the big bad – no doubt “liberal” media to “be nice” to Palin?

    Let’s start with the “liberal” media. Nearly ALL of the “media” in this country is owned by a scant seven or eight MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS. They are most CERTAINLY NOT “liberal”.

    Silas mentioned we enjoy “Enquirer” style news. Well, again, who OWNS these news stations? Who DESIGNS the info-tanment we are swamped with each day? Major corporations… And what is the bottom line for corporations? The BOTTOM LINE.

    So you get your “news” each night in 22 terribly in depth MINUTES because you’ve been dumbed down to that point. How exhausting it must be for those few who watch Frontline, which lasts for an entire HOUR without… WITHOUT commercial breaks!! Gaahh! When do I get to run to the kitchen to slobber down a Dove Bar??!?!?!

    Ms. Palin WILL be protected, don’t you worry. The McCain machine, such as it is, will make SURE she NEVER has to face any real journalist who might, GASP! Ask her some hard, penetrating questions.

    And really why should we expect her to answer the hard questions? Who says her being governor of Alaska for a scant 20 months and prior to that a mayor of a small town that she wrecked financially doesn’t qualify her to be a HEARTBEAT away from having her finger, (twitchy as it will likely be after all those months of not getting to go out and fire off a few dozen clips of her AK47 at some wolf pup) on the big RED BUTTON which reads ARMAGEDDON. But that’s OK, ARMAGEDDON fits right in with her LIFE PHILOSOPHY (if you can call following along mindlessly after men who crave and cry out for world destruction) a philosophy….

    Yes, for God’s sake as well as HUMANITY’S lets not be “mean” (read seriously concerned over her qualifications) to Ms. Palin…

    Marlowe

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    For once there are good candidates on both sides where we Americans have an opportunity to debate real issues. We’re not in a position this time of electing the lesser of two evils. As I have said before, either man in the White House is not going to accomplish a thing until we shake up Congress. Oh but that takes work, commitment and an interest on what goes on in Washington. Just as we do with our kids, we say ‘not my Congressman’. Oh no, it’s always somebody else’s Congressperson or Senator, never our own. Our waves of grain will flourish next year, folks. We’ve got an over abundance of bullshit flying and it’ll keep the cost of a loaf of bread down at your local Super WalMart.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Remember: The Bridge to Nowhere? – Palin was “for it before she was against it.”

    What’s that? Is there an echo in here?

    Also, she did NOT return the money. It was simply redirected to other projects.

    Palin may be a hard assed moose killer, but she is in the end supportive of male dominated evangelical christianity, most versions of which are on record as insisting upon the subservience of women who in their view should be seen and not heard; who should defer in all things to their male counterparts who are assumed to be naturally superior to women in their god’s eyes.

    Sarah! You go girl!

    B

  • Arch Conservative

    When Sarah Palin trots her family out member by member and discusses them during her speech with the purpose of using them as showpieces, there’s no good reason for the media to ignore her family life. The Republicans want the media to give her family life a positive spin, whereas the media doesn’t want to play ball.

    That’s what this is really all about.

    That’s a load of horsehit Jordan. Palin didn’t “trot her family out” as you claim until almost a week of the media spreading rumors and lies about her family. Her having her family on stage with her was a reaction to the media’s lies and attempts to smear her family.

    I agree with Lisa who said Palin has not been examined closely enough. She hasn’t. If the media wants to look into troopergate, her actions on the birdsge to nowhere, her record as governor, her stances on abortion and abstinence only………….hey all of those things are fair game and you’ll get no argument from me. But when the media repeat rumors like her down’s syndrome son really isn’t hers or start calling her an unfit mom because her daughter is pregnant or because she will not have time to take care of her kids if she’s pregant then people are going to call the media on this unfair bullshit treatment.

    Numerous members of Acorn have been convicted of voter fraud in multiple state Baritone. Many others have been indicted and are currently facing charges. Last week it was revealed that a number of Acorn members in Milwaukee likely submitted falsified voter registration cards and the authorities are investigating it.

    Voter fraud is a systemic practice at Acorn and all the spin you want to throw at us on this thread doesn’t change that reality B-tone.

    Also it is a fact that Obama was once employed by them, has been taking money from them and still maintaisn ties with them.

    But hey if you’d rather talk about Palin’s daughter being pregannt than Obama having ties to and taking money from an organization which has members that have been convicted of voter fraud and a number of other members in a host of different states currently facing charges for voter fraud taht’s your perogative B-tone.

    As for me I am not going to buy the spin coming form the Obama campaign and Acorn.

    If you feel the need to fruther argue this isssue though Baritone don’t come to me. Take your case for Acorn to the courts in Colorado, Wisoncin and Pennsylvania where members of the group were found guily of voter fraud or to the officials in a number of other states where Acorn members are currently either being investigated or facing charges for voter fraud.

  • Arch Conservative

    “Some conservative pundits have claimed that Palin is a “true” feminist. Palin is NO feminist. She has no positions in common with feminist interests.”

    Jeebus B-tone…..don’t beat around the bush, just come out and say it.

    Only liberals, left wing women may call themselves feminists. Any woman that does not toe the leftist line on every issue is nothing but a hapless dupe of the evil right winfg conspiracy that does not know what is in her own best interests and therefore must be subjected to the the most brutal and unforgiving scorn from the true feminists..the Gloria Steinams, Hillary Clintons, NOW’s, Feminist majorites of the world…….

    Just fucking say what you really mean B-tone!

  • Jordan Richardson

    That’s a load of horsehit Jordan. Palin didn’t “trot her family out” as you claim until almost a week of the media spreading rumors and lies about her family. Her havign her family on stage with her was a reaction to the media’s lies and attemots to smear her family.

    Nonsense. Sarah Palin runs on a platform of family values, using her kids and husband and “blue collar values” as the substance of her character. She did before she was the veep pick, too. A simple look at her career and her website displays this fact boldly. Only an ignorant fool wouldn’t be able to see the connection between Palin’s use of her family to promote her agenda. Every politician does it. Barack Obama does it too.

    When the media investigates the families of these politicians and when the political game uses the concept of family to get points from an ignorant public, the rules of engagement no longer apply. Truth is important and I think the media got this right. A few liberal bloggers aside, I don’t blame the MSM for picking up on what people were talking about. BC had tonnes of articles regarding Palin and very few regarding McCain, so that demonstrates what people are discussing.

    Why would the media not jump into the fray? And if campaigns in politics in America are about getting to know a candidate, why wouldn’t the media investigate the candidate? And people are welcome to call “bullshit” on the media. That’s the point. At this point and time, however, I find it hypocrisy of the highest order to both fellate and slap the media all at once. And that’s what the Republicans are doing.

  • Arch Conservative

    Hey Jordan how come the media isn’t suggesting that Obama’s a bad dad becaue he wants to run for pres the way they’re suggesting running as VP makes Palin a bad mom?

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    No, Silas, I was just saying that I knew where both guys where going before someone jumped in by talking about Biden’s “posh” assignment….. I think they both are being somewhat protected because they are the sons of possible veeps, which is possible. I have no idea. There was an article about it yesterday. I have no idea as to the protocol or how assignments are given out. I certainly know that anyone going over there risks his or her life, including journalists and people doing NGO work. I am not making light of it at all….I was just anticipating inpleasant remarks. You can hardly blame me, Silas:)

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Lisa, these were your words: Before you yell and scream that Biden’s son is going to be a lawyer there, know that Palin’s son has gotten guarding dignitaries as his duty. You can check it out.

    Explain to me how I should not have come to the conclusion that you view Track Palin’s service as so matter-of-fact? I have given praise to both Biden and Palin. My heart goes out to them as parents of children in service. We don’t give enough credit to those who raise our children to go off and fight a senseless war. Can’t folks on both sides of the aisle think about that for one fleeting moment? Hate Sarah Palin. Hate Joe Biden. Admire their personal sacrifice.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    And you are correct. I can hardly blame you. Any Far Righters who dismiss Joe Biden’s son in service to our country don’t deserve to wear the badge of Conservatism as far as I am concerned. At that point they become nothing more than a cheap imitation of a special interest group.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    That’s a load of horsehit Jordan. Palin didn’t “trot her family out” as you claim until almost a week of the media spreading rumors and lies about her family.

    Wrong. Palin brought them into the mix the second she was chosen. Just about the first thing she did in her speech at the Dayton rally was to introduce her husband and children.

    Now that may be customary in American politics, or it may not. I don’t know. But you can’t claim she made any attempt to separate her public and private lives.

    how come the media isn’t suggesting that Obama’s a bad dad becaue he wants to run for pres the way they’re suggesting running as VP makes Palin a bad mom?

    Perhaps because neither of Obama’s two daughters is pregnant or suffering from a serious genetic disorder.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Perhaps because neither of Obama’s two daughters is pregnant or suffering from a serious genetic disorder.

    Precisely. Plus Obama only has two kids, not five with one newborn. The idea that this may be an issue should be considered and explored by any responsible media group.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Serious genetic disorder? Whoa, there. Hold on for a second. There are millions of productive adults in this society who have Down’s Syndrome. Yes they require extra attention because of their special needs. But in this age, many go on to lead wonderful, productive lives and give back to their communities. Theirs is a simpler take on the world around them and it is from that perspective we could learn so much.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Trig isn’t a productive adult, he’s a baby. And I’m not judgin’, just making a point as to why it’s an issue for Palin.

  • Arch Conservative

    “Perhaps because neither of Obama’s two daughters is pregnant or suffering from a serious genetic disorder.”

    Oh I didn’t know that the media got to dictate who is a good parent and who is a bad parent based on some abitrary set of conditons that takes into account the numebr of children, their health etc etc… But thanks for the info dread.

    I’m sure the next time you have to make a decision regarding one of your children you will defer to Chris Matthews, Sally Quinn, Wolf Blitzer or some other personality before your own judgement or your wife.

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    Connie: “Oh I didn’t know that the media got to dictate who is a good parent and who is a bad parent ”

    No that’s your job to judge everyone Connie

  • Arch Conservative

    Judge everyone? I haven’t said a word about Obama’s parenting skills unlike the msm that feels as if they can tell the nation how good of a parent Palin is to her children when they obviously don’t know a damn thing about it.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Oh I didn’t know that the media got to dictate who is a good parent and who is a bad parent based on some abitrary set of conditons that takes into account the numebr of children, their health etc etc…

    Like it or not, Arch, THEY DO.

    And like it nor not, the media is far more likely to ask questions about whether a candidate with five children – one of whom is pregnant at 17 and another of whom is disabled – is the best person to give a national executive position his or her best attention.

    For the record, I personally don’t think it matters that much -especially not in the case of the vice-presidency, the value of which office was so eloquently summed up by one of FDR’s unfortunate veeps, John Nance Garner. But I don’t think you’ve got much of a case to be snivelling ‘NO FAIR!’ either.

  • Arch Conservative

    So having two young children as Obama has does not require his attention but having five children as Palin does means that they require so much attention that it dq’s from being VP.

    C’mon Dreaed….we all know that if Palin had a D next to her name the msm would be praising her for having a career and being a supermom. The msm is in the tank for Obama and this is just a manifestation of that.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    C’mon Dreaed….we all know that if Palin had a D next to her name the msm would be praising her for having a career and being a supermom.

    No, we DON’T all know that, and we won’t until a female Democrat with five sprogs takes a tilt at the White House.

  • Arch Conservative

    Yes we do. Those of us that have been sipping ole Barry’s Kool aid do at least.

  • http://jetsnewsviews.blogspot.com/ Jet

    To paraphrase Churchill Doc, Arch stumbled over the political truth once, but he quickly picked himself up, brushed himself off, and scurried away as if nothing had happened.

  • Baronius

    Dread, you’re completely wrong. The press has been sweet to Nancy Pelosi, supermom and supergrandmom. I seem to remember Brian Williams praising her as the new Mom of the House of Representitives. She took the oath of office with a grandchild on her lap, and I don’t remember any digging into the lives of her children, or saying that she was using her grandchildren as props.

    She’s two steps away from the presidency. Actually, I think that Pelosi has five kids, so the situations are almost identical.

  • Jordan Richardson

    From what I know of the term, what is meant by mainstream media is that it is a form of media that reaches a large audience. In other words, when somebody is talking about the MSM (mainstream media), they’re actually referencing the mass media.

    So the mass media, by and large, serves the cultural elite and generally the middle-to-upper classes. Mass media exists to make money, generate revenue, and what have you. When somebody cites bias on Us Magazine covers, for instance, the real story ought to be that what is on those covers exists to generate revenue. So it stands to reason that Us Magazine should appeal to its “base,” that is those with money to buy magazines and subscriptions. Market research reveals the “who” and “what” of it all, which causes magazines like Playboy to appeal to a slightly-right-wing crowd while a magazine like Esquire appeals to a slightly-left-wing crowd. I’ve had subscriptions to both.

    In my view, then, we crow and bitch about mass media but fail to realize that each avenue of the MSM has its targets. By definition, FOX News and News Corporation are very large and they appeal to an enormous audience. They are also considered to lean to the right. In fact, News Corporation is one of the largest MSM outlets in the world. With a host of holdings that range from HarperCollins books, a host of international newspapers, film studios, and plenty of television stations, I don’t think anyone could safely assert that the News Corporation is not a key part of the mainstream media. If anything, News Corporation is the biggest component in the MSM.

    Keeping in mind that the mass media exists to primarily generate income and that the task of mass media to educate and inform the public has become secondary, should any of us be surprised at what occurs? Time Warner panders to its base much in the same way that News Corporation companies do. Market research demonstrates who a particular audience is and the product (media output) moves to reflect that.

    The conclusion here is that we ultimately are left with a media that doesn’t serve the public trust. It’s not about whether there is a bias towards the left or the right, whether the media attacked Palin or Obama, and whether the media attacks one side more than another or offers more coverage to left issues vs. right issues. Instead, it’s about the fact that agendas to generate profit supersede any other agenda.

    I think that’s the bigger issue here. Nobody would, in their right mind, deny the presence of a media bias. But I think it is a complete waste of time to bicker and debate which side receives more levity and which side receives more patience. It is, in the end, about what sells and not about the direction it leans.

    In my opinion, media needs to serve the public trust at all costs. It should be generated by the public with regulations in place to ensure that alternative views are aired and discussed. All ideas should be on the table as the public has a right to know what’s out there. That’s what makes the internet such a great resource and the same principles should be applied to all media outlets. The generation of profit has become the only thing that matters and, as such, completely undermines the notion of a “free press.”

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Many of us Dems would be perfectly satisfied to keep the discussion to national issues. Palin is more conservative than the average independent voter. This should be made clear. And whether she can or can’t hold her own in a discussion of foreign policy should be made clear too. Nothing unfair about it.

    Keeping her sheltered from the press during a national election is shameful and I hope it backfires.

    Conservatives accuse Dems of being “scared to death” of Palin. More accurately, both sides are nervous about this election and the quick-tempered on both sides have said things better left unsaid.

    But that shouldn’t let Palin [or Obama, or Biden, or McCain] off the hook. The press should have free access to all, and should be allowed to grill them on the issues.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    know that Palin’s son has gotten guarding dignitaries as his duty.

    Guarding dignitaries in Iraq or Afghanistan is one of the highest personal risk jobs in that theater of operations.

    Dave

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    The press has been sweet to Nancy Pelosi, supermom and supergrandmom. …I don’t remember any digging into the lives of her children, or saying that she was using her grandchildren as props.

    She’s two steps away from the presidency. Actually, I think that Pelosi has five kids, so the situations are almost identical.

    Whether the press is soft on Pelosi is arguable [and the right and left on here will never agree on the answer], but this argument is off base anyway.

    Pelosi was not an unknown running for elective office when she became Speaker. And she was 66, and her kids are grown.

    It’s not just loudmouth leftist activists questioning whether it makes sense for a woman with a special needs infant and 4 other kids including a pregnant teenager to take on a job that could lead to her being president. And it’s certainly not just men asking.

    I have a friend whose Republican mom [now nearly 90] raised a Down syndrome child and finds it flabbergastingly selfish that Palin would accept the nomination. Not saying I agree, but it’s not all about left/right or sexist-when-convenient.

  • Arch Conservative

    How’s Pelosi’s book doing by the way?

  • Clavos

    When Sarah Palin trots her family out member by member and discusses them during her speech with the purpose of using them as showpieces, there’s no good reason for the media to ignore her family life.

    Palin’s and her family’s entire lives should be minutely scrutinized, and every detail, from birth to the present, of all of them (including her grandparents, parents, cousins – anyone who has a familial relationship with her, including her husband, his grandparents and parents and cousins all should have every tiny detail of their lives, past and present, exposed.

    And the same should be done to everyone who presents themselves as a candidate for public office, no matter how inconsequential.

    It’s irrelevant and doesn’t mean shit as far as their ability to serve in the office for which they aspire is concerned , but think of what fun it would be, to expose them all, while gossiping about them around the water cooler, online, or at your kids’ sporting events.

    What fun!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Palin’s and her family’s entire lives should be minutely scrutinized, and every detail, from birth to the present, of all of them (including her grandparents, parents, cousins – anyone who has a familial relationship with her, including her husband, his grandparents and parents and cousins all should have every tiny detail of their lives, past and present, exposed.

    Yes. One of them might have been at a party or spent some time with someone who might be a terrorist. The public has a right to know who their leaders associate with and what their habits are. If the question “Did you inhale?” has relevance to voters, surely other equally frivolous questions ought to be fair.

    And the same should be done to everyone who presents themselves as a candidate for public office, no matter how inconsequential.

    Dirt is dirt, fair is fair.

    It’s irrelevant and doesn’t mean shit as far as their ability to serve in the office for which they aspire is concerned , but think of what fun it would be, to expose them all, while gossiping about them around the water cooler, online, or at your kids’ sporting events.

    The state of politics is disturbing in your country, but I advocate fairness. If it matters that Barack Obama attended a certain church or had some brushes with Islam or has a wife who may not be rabidly patriotic, the same information should be pertinent on the right-hand side of things as well. And this is especially pertinent when the family is utilized as glorified props in a campaign for election.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Pelosi’s book is ranked around 42,000 on Amazon and has a reader rating of 1.5 out of 5, as compared to Palin’s book which is ranked at #12 overall, #5 in nonfiction and has a reader rating of 4 out of 5. But all hope is not lost. In the category of biograpies/memoirs of Karl Marx Pelosi’s book is ranked #2. I’m not kidding.

    Amusing though it is, it’s not a fair comparison since Pelosi’s book has been out for several weeks longer than Palin, plus she’s not running for office and is the most hated woman in America.

    A more fair comparison would be Palin’s book to Mike’s Election Guide by Michael Moore, which was released the same week and is now at #33, 21 spots behind Palin.

    I’d offer a comparison to Pelosi, but there’s no one with a book out recently who’s comparable in personal unpopularity.

    Dave

  • Jordan Richardson

    While we’re on the topic of media bias and fairness, this is an especially interesting article.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    As with those who give Congress a low performance rating, I suspect that most of those who tell pollsters that they don’t like Nancy Pelosi would be hard-pressed to tell you why.

    (Don’t bother, Arch, I know you wouldn’t have that difficulty!)

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    What’s to like, Dr. D? Well, she was hot as hell 40 years ago during her brief career as a go-go girl and/or failed model.

    But to be fair, I think that her book’s 1.5 rating on Amazon and the 150+ incredibly hostile reviews of the book and the fact that people gratuitously keyworded the book into Karl Marx bios, is more of a sign of the intensity of the hatred people have for her than the pervasiveness of the hatred.

    Dave

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Want to know why I don’t like Nancy Pelosi? One word. Taken from an Obama staffer about Gov. Palin but more applicable to the Shrieker of the House: shrill. Only subtract the “r”. Nancy Pelosi is as plastic as her botox-infested complexion.

  • Clavos

    Plug-ugly, too…

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I hear Palin moisturizes with polar bear fat.

    Dave

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    The only reason the lefties are taking Palin to task is that if they didn’t all you right wing wackos would have her deified by now. What’s sad is that there are so few Republicans who even have a personality, let alone even a smattering of charisma, that all it takes is a reasonably attractive 44 year old who can deliver a one liner to send them all into spasms of glee.

    The McCain campaign won’t let the media near her – and perhaps, never will, because she knows nothing about anything outside of Alaska and presumably, junior hockey leagues – oh, and shooting and gutting moose.

    Five colleges, 6 years, one undergraduate degree in journalism. Stellar!

    She is now enrolled in International Relations 101 and Government 100 – a general survey course for non-majors at McCain community college.

    “Voter fraud is a systemic practice at Acorn…” No, Connie, it’s not.

    And I will say it again if you like. Palin has nothing to offer feminists. Nothing. She is the polar opposite.

    B

  • Franco

    #3 — Roschelle

    “Even after her acceptance speech, I still don’t know who she is.”

    Even after Obama’s 18 month campaign of speeches of flip flop back and forth, I still don’t know who he is.

    In contrast to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama has not been vetted, not even by Democrats. Even today he is largely an unknown to all but a small handful of dogged political professionals and a concentrated core of political junkies who inhabit Internet blogs.

    As far as Sarah Palin is concerned, we will all get to she her answer all the questions and she will be fully vetted. Let’s hope the question are worthy of asking. Otherwise the MSM and the incestuous self feeding and self deluding DialyKos kids will be the circle jerk loosers.

    Now as far as who the hell Obama is, Jerome R. Corsi and his New York Times best sell book starts finally at long last with 2 month left to go gives us information the MSM and the Obama campaign have been trying desperately to keep under wraps, even using there lawyers to threaten stations.

    Who is Jerome R. Corsi and what political slant dose he take?

    In his own words from the bood: “My intent in writing this book is to fully document all arguments and contentions I make, extensively footnoting all references, so readers can determine for themselves the truth and validity of the factual claims.

    I have never been a registered member of the Republican or Democratic Party, unless voting in some particular state primary over the past forty years necessitated that result. The only political party I ever consciously joined is the Constitution Party, of which I am a registered member in the state of New Jersey, where I currently reside. Let me also clearly state that I am writing this book strictly to examine and oppose Barack Obama, not to support Senator John McCain or any other Republican Party or third-party candidate for the presidency.

    Finally, let me clearly state that this book has been written solely on my initiative. There has been no attempt made, nor will there be any attempt made, to communicate the shape or contents of this book with anyone in the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Constitution Party, or in any third party with a candidate running for the presidency. “

    For a closer look at The Obama Nation author see the New York Times

  • Franco

    #6 —Jordan Richardson

    “The Republicans want the media to give her family life a positive spin, whereas the media doesn’t want to play ball. That’s what this is really all about.”

    Not it at all really! Palin can hold her own without the MSM which Obama surly can not, and it is going to irk their ass’s something fierce.

    But thanks for admitting the liberal bias in the MSM.

  • Bennett

    “Guarding dignitaries in Iraq or Afghanistan is one of the highest personal risk jobs in that theater of operations.”

    Bullshit.

    Think about it, and then ask someone who’s been there.

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    SARAH PALIN IS HOT

    Little known fact: Sarah Palin won her governor’s seat by shooting her opponent the incumbent with a bow and arrow, and serving him up to constituents cooked up with a delicious moose stew recipe. Later, she staked his head on a post in the Aleutian Islands as a message to the Russians.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Think about it, and then ask someone who’s been there.

    I have, Bennett. I wouldn’t say something like that if it wasn’t true. A friend guarded dignitaries and reporters in Afghanistan and said it was much more dangerous than anything he did during the invasion or in occupied Iraq.

    And Franco, Jerome Corsi is a terrible source to use for anything. He’s a hardcore right-winger – so far right that he isn’t a Republican because he thinks Republicans are too far to the left. He also thinks the Bush administration blew up the WTC. He’s a dangerous nut.

    Dave

  • Clavos

    Brother Barger, that web site is great!

    What a hoot!

    Some personal favorite Sarah Palin “facts:”

    Sarah Palin isn’t allowed to wield the gavel at the convention because they’re afraid she’ll use it to kill liberals.

    Sarah Palin eats bald eagles because they’re tastier than spotted owls.

    Sarah Palin’s finishing move in the VP debate will be pulling Biden’s still-beating heart from his chest and taking a bite.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Corsi lost me when he claimed that he wasn’t swiftboating Obama because none of the Swift Boat Veterans had anything to do with the new book.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    I can’t believe ANYONE would give credence to, or cite Corsi as a source for ANY supposed facts. A large number of Corsi’s footnotes refer back to his own previous writing. Dr. Corsi has been repeatedly discredited as an out and out liar, smear monger and a conspiracy theorist bordering on lunacy. That his publisher is Threshold Editions an arm of Simon and Schuster whose chief editor is none other than rabid conservative Mary Matelin is no surprise.

    And Corsi, just to appear “fair and balanced,” has claimed that McCain’s campaign is being largely financed by Al Qaida, and that Bush is actively working toward globalization and the formation of a North American Union.

    Corsi also is a proponent of “abiotic oil” – the notion that crude oil is produced naturally beneath the earth, but not as the result of converting biological material.

    Corsi is a solid source of “truth.”

    B

  • Clavos

    Bush is actively working toward globalization and the formation of a North American Union.

    I agree; that’s why I voted for him.

    Bring on the New World Order!

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    North American Union? I’d doubt it, Canadians and Mexicans are educated, they know better.

  • Franco

    #10 —Baritone

    “The notion that Obama has been treated with favor by the media is a matter of tainted perception.”

    Ya, yours, and man you got it bad!

    “Obama has been raked over the coals constantly with slander, lies and half truths since he declared his candidacy. Just look at Jerome Corsi’s totally stupid book. How anyone could lend credence to anything that man writes is a total mystery to me.”

    We know it is a mystery to you. But that does not change the fact that in contrast to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama has not been vetted at all, not even by Democrats.

    Even today Obama is largely an unknown to all Americans with the exception of a small handful of dogged political professionals, and what the hell is their agenda. Big expensive government! They are despert the get him in the oval office so Pelosi and Reed can push all their radial socialist visions of European grandeur.

    Well I got news for you fella, the elite’s in the Democratic party may fantasize about being Europeans, but the American people don’t.

    Obama campaign of Smoke and Mirrors and lots of flash without any substance is getting nauseating. His speeches, along with your posts are full of empty rhetoric, and his attacks, like yours, on his opponents are cowardly smoke and mirror side step cover-ups.

    Just the latest case in point:

    In an interview on CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Obama was asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate compares to Palin’s executive experience running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

    Obama said…..”My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. Our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the past couple of years.”

    Notice that Anderson Cooper’s question concerns Sarah Palins experience as both Governor and Mayor. Look at how smoothly Obama sidesteps that answer by first calling her Governor, and then belittles it by associating that experience with her hometown when she was mayor.

    Obama didn’t answer the question, and he set up a straw man argument in response to Cooper.

    Obama blithely pretends that she’s still the mayor of “Wasilly” in order to boost himself. However, running for office isn’t executive experience, for one good reason: Obama isn’t the campaign manager. He has a CEO actually running the campaign, handling the budget, and managing the people while Obama makes the speeches.

    Here are the facts that Obama is trying to smoke and mirror out of the way so he dose not have to answer honestly because the truth would hurt way too much.

    Sarah Palin is Governor of a state with hundreds of thousands of people, close to 700,000 to be exact, which has a 10 billion dollar budget, manages the country’s 7th largest economy, and runs a government that employs 25,000 people and the Americans in that fine State support here dearly.

    For Barack Obama to lower himself to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and it’s very disturbing. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as superior to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees.”

    If this is Obama’s best response on the experience question, then Americans should be asking themselves harder questions and taking a closer look for themselves because the MSM will not be doing it for them.

    From the ‘The Obama Nation’ By JEROME R. CORSI

    “My intent in writing this book is to fully document all arguments and contentions I make, extensively footnoting all references, so readers can determine for themselves the truth and validity of the factual claims”.

    “I have never been a registered member of the Republican or Democratic Party, unless voting in some particular state primary over the past forty years necessitated that result. The only political party I ever consciously joined is the Constitution Party, of which I am a registered member in the state of New Jersey, where I currently reside. Let me also clearly state that I am writing this book strictly to examine and oppose Barack Obama, not to support Senator John McCain or any other Republican Party or third-party candidate for the presidency.”

    “Finally, let me clearly state that this book has been written solely on my initiative. There has been no attempt made, nor will there be any attempt made, to communicate the shape or contents of this book with anyone in the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Constitution Party, or in any third party with a candidate running for the presidency.”

    It dose not get anymore politically unbiased then that. And because the MSM will not lift a finger to help Americans understand Obama better, thank goodness this book sits near the top of the New York Times best seller list”.

    “Conversely, anytime a tough question comes McCain’s way, all his ardent supporters cry foul, saying that you musn’t challenge him because he’s a fucking war hero. McCain is milking that to enth degree.”

    They don’t’ pull punches on McCain bonehead. But you got the fucking war hero right. It really irks your ass, and why, because it’s 110% hardcore truth. Milk it McCain, milk it, if for no other reason then to try and get back 1% of something for what you had to go through!

    “Some conservative pundits have claimed that Palin is a “true” feminist. Palin is NO feminist. She has no positions in common with feminist interests.”

    If your talking about the likes of the wife of Bill Ayerse, Bernardine Dohrn, and there home were Obama launched his campaign, then your right, Palin has nothing in common with those types of women. But as a truly liberated women, daughter, mother, wife, Governor, and VP contender, those types can’t hold a candle to her.

    “If Palin/McCain wind up winning because right wingers have a collective hard on for “Babe Sarah,” then shame on them.”

    God, you’re pathetic. If McCain/Palin wind up winning it will be because we never knew who Obama was or what he stood for with all his flip flops back and forth. Flash and slick talk are not cutting it!

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    Thanks Clavos. Sarah Palin is an instant folk hero character, a Paul Bunyon, Chuck Norris, or Bill Braski.

    Here’s another little known Sarah Palin fact that I made up:

    Sarah Palin once won a beauty contest talent competition by killing and skinning a caribou in front of the judges, and making a dress from the pelt, wearing which she proceeded to win the evening gown competition.

  • Clavos

    Silas,

    North American Union? I’d doubt it, Canadians and Mexicans are educated, they know better.

    Canadians, maybe. But not us Mexicans…

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Is that my sweet little teddy bear daddy I see?

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    Beyond the presidential race, probably the best issue the Republicans have is “drill, drill, drill.” Sarah Palin is obviously the #1 most absolutely perfect possible spokesman for this. As governor of Alaska and head of a big state oil commission before that, she very much has working knowledge of the business. She’s pro-drilling, but has smacked the oil companies around some. In short, she seems to like to squeeze money out of the oil companies – but recognizes that they have to be able to drill to provide the nation’s energy needs as well as to have any money for her to squeeze.

    Then there’s Todd Palin, the very physical embodiment of the practicality of energy policy, and the basic good union jobs involved with increasing oil production. A Steelworker’s Union member working night shift on a North Slope oil rig. Perfect.

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    Brother Silas! Hello, buddy.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Al, it’s a sight for sore eyes to see you! Anyway, I agree on Palin and her role in energy especially since I didn’t realize just how much acreage they were talking about in comparison to the entirety of the reserve. I think we should drill in Alaska and before Sarah Palin I was opposed. The reality is that before we can break the addiction to oil we need to find an energy methadone.

    We’ve got plenty of technologies at our disposal and should come up with a comprehensive 20 year plan to convert to solar, wind, nuclear and mass transit using magnetic technologies. We need to develop a green plan for urban areas like the one testing in Chicago at this very moment using helix wind turbines and new flat roofing technologies.

    I know we can do it. It will require the assistance of every American. Perhaps a World War II-like call to arms proclaimed by a coalition of political parties and labor unions. As Kennedy made the call to go to the moon by the end of the 60’s, I want a President who will point us in the direction of energy independence from foreign sources by 2025. I believe it is possible but to accomplish such a gargantuan task invokes inspiration – not only of adults but of children.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    P.S. And I want a Congress to support such a bold initiative. But to accomplish this requires overhaul of the campaign finance system to take energy PACs out of the equation.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Franco,

    Hey fella!(Fella!!! – Are you shitting me?)

    Are we to believe that little, sweet unassuming Ms. Palin does all that governor stuff by herself? Do the 24000 people in the state’s employ just sit with their thumbs up their asses watching in awe as Super Sarah runs the fucking state single handedly?

    [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor] all you see is what’s convenient for you to see. You know nothing. You speak of how blinded we Obama backers are, yet you are more than willing to ignore the fact that McCain is a lying, self-serving shit who sold his soul to Bush and the Republican party inner circle so he could run for president. He is little more than the ghost of the man who ran for the presidency in 2000, and no longer remotely resembles the war hero he once was. He has dissolved into a despicable mash. “Maverick” my ass!

    Since he really has no definitive plans, and no particular “executive” experience himself – he has NEVER held a real job – he repeatedly reminds us all of his POW status. Never mind how that doesn’t qualify him for anything but, perhaps, being a prisoner.

    Republicans lost any right they have to run the government via their gross mismanagement and the death of thousands of Americans and many thousands more Iraqis and Afghanis, and simply their gross stupidity during the past 7 plus years. Own it, it’s yours. All fucking yours!

    Obama holds the ONLY hope this country has from turning absolutely and completely to shit.

    That you go back to citing Corsi reveals your total ignorance and destroys any and all credibility you may have had. Corsi is a smear mongering ass who wouldn’t know a fact if it bit him in the ass, yet apparently you lap it up like a dog.

    Palin a liberated woman? That is patently absurd? I know, it’s because she packs heat and kills moose. What a woman! Maybe McCain will let her hang a few carcasses in the East Room, because if he wins, it will be because she saved his ass with her “Tundra Barbie” smile.

    Palin’s devotees are the truly pathetic ones.

    B

  • Jordan Richardson

    But thanks for admitting the liberal bias in the MSM.

    Franco, are you really this dense? Check out #34 for my thoughts on media. And citing Corsi on anything is reason enough for even the most uninformed among us (me) to heap scorn and mockery upon you.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Since he really has no definitive plans, and no particular “executive” experience himself – he has NEVER held a real job – he repeatedly reminds us all of his POW status. Never mind how that doesn’t qualify him for anything but, perhaps, being a prisoner.

    McCain has 2 years of executive experience as commander of an Airforce squadron, plus 4 years as Navy liason to Congress, which is another real job. All of this prior to running for office.

    And come on. Obama is now claiming his time campainging for office as executive eperience. Give me a break.

    Dave

  • Pablo

    Baritone RE 67

    [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor] all you see is what’s convenient for you to see. You know nothing.”

    Although I agree in part to your above comment Baritone particularly about McCain, the attack I find even more interesting. As I could have a fucking field day if given the latitude you are in the personal attack department. Or maybe there is a bit of a double standard going on. I do know that I have been censored on this site numerous times for saying things far less offensive than example here.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    In the event of a major catastrophic attack on our land I feel that all who remain will be the immigrants who came here over the last 20 years who have survived the most deplorable of conditions from all around the globe. Conservatives and liberals, especially the fringes, would all but be exterminated because they didn’t take enough time to shut up and take a look at what’s happening around us.

    My significant other has been here 12 years and hails from Armenia with a hint of Azerbaijan. He was one of the survivors of the devastating earthquake in Armenia. He watched a six story building collapse before his eyes with several family members crushed to their deaths. He’s talked many times about how mismanaged and corrupt the Russian and Armenian authorities were when it came to delivery of emergency supplies from other countries. We’ve talked about his family’s forced repatriation to Moscow for two years so authorities could clean up the mess in his and surrounding villages which leads to a host of questions as to why the Soviets wanted the villages cleared out. He’s seen war (especially with the Turks who have yet to be held accountable for the unspoken holocaust). He’s seen mother nature’s wrath. And he’s seen the rise and fall of the Soviet regime.

    The bottom line is at least 75% of our friends come from the Middle East and Eurasia. This experience has exposed me to many different views which makes me ever so grateful because I’m honestly able to see other points of view from cultures that are considered Third World. Politics, of course, is one of our main objects of discussion. Those of our friends who have become citizens take elections seriously and have no respect for we “native” Americans who don’t exercise our right to vote. To them it’s not an inconvenience, it’s a moral obligation.

    This all leads to my point. This article calls for fair treatment of Sarah Palin. In our round table tonight, the common theme expressed by many was that Americans don’t understand what’s really at stake here. We’re not a free people until we free ourselves from foreign energy. We’ve got to find a way to get our federal debt under control. We’ve got to overhaul our education System. And last, but certainly not least, we need to overhaul our campaign finance laws which include:

    • A national primary day when all states participate in one fell swoop
    • Change Election Day to Sunday, with polls across America opening at 7:00 AM Eastern Time and remaining open for 18 hours.
    • Comprehensive reform of soft moneys by diverting them from private political campaign coffers into public election financing which encourage expansion of alternative political parties.
    • Reducing the Election Cycle to a set period of weeks as opposed to dragging out a national debate for two years which pretty much causes Congress to do nothing.

    But we can’t accomplish these changes without applying rules of fair play all across the board. The Obama supporters are passionate. So are the McCain supporters. Then we have the fringes on both sides who will inject every sensational piece of trash they can dig up on the opposition. McCain says that he’d rather lose and election than lose a war. I’ll take him at his word. Personally, I’d prefer two Presidential campaigns who tell their staffs to shut up and stop stirring the flames of divisiveness. I want two leaders who will step up to the plate and create their own level playing field so this country can have some reasoned political debate.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Silas,

    Your proposals are all salutary so far as they go if only they were not 40 years too late (yes, I’ve read proposals like yours since before 1968, and made some of them myself as a youth.

    It’s good that your partner comes from the Caucasus. You’re getting good picture of the world without the bullshit American media spin on it. One wishes that Dave Nalle would have preserved some of that world world perspective he ought to have gotten as a kid. But maybe we are seeing what comes of a kid educated in English speaking schools in the Middle East. There is one such place in Israel: the Anglican School in Jerusalem. Maybe he is an example of what such schools turn out.

    If you read the comments on Blogcritics for the last several days, you would barely be aware that anything other than Sarah Palin’s vagina exists. And that is really what all these articles about Sarah Palin is about – a fear, spoken or unspoken, of what that vagina represents. The “leftist” (really anti-G-d) folks tremble at what this young woman might do with real power. Her nomination has opened up a whole new chapter of the “Vagina Monologues” – and the anti-G-d folks folks fear it something terrible.

    Finally, McCain has managed to recast this race brilliantly – now it is Palin vs. Obama. This arrogant shadow of an American with an “elite” education and great speech-writers has to deal with a working girl who rose above the 9-5 routine and succeeded in kicking out a lot of Alaska’s Republicans out of nice cushy jobs. McCain, who is uninspiring and tired at best, has put the race on fire. And I don’t think Obama quite knows what to do about it.

    It’s fun to watch.

    But there are other issues at work, issues which far outweigh the existence of the young woman from Wasila, AK. She may have a role to play in these issues, but at present at least, those issues themselves far outweigh Governor Palin or her candidacy.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Some interesting suggestions there, but a couple of them just won’t work.

    You can’t put elections on Sunday unless you want to disenfranchise a portion of the more rabid Christian population. Same thing for Jews and Muslims on Friday and Saturday. The best solution is to make election day a national holiday and put it on a Wednesday.

    And if you try to divert private soft money into a general public fund then that private soft money will cease to exist. Why on earth would those groups put up with letting their money go to anyone that they don’t support? Better not to give money at all.

    Public funding of elections is so vulnerable to abuse and favoritism that it has to be avoided at all cost. It’s an abuse of the taxpayer’s right not to pay for candidates he doesn’t support and it would inevitably be used to play favorites. Even if you required that money be spent for third parties, the moment you start giving peoples’ tax money to the nazis or some more mainstream equivalent like Britains BNP you’re just inviting chaos and lawsuits and endless protest marches.

    There are only a couple of viable answers for election reform. One is to lift ALL restrictions on spending. Let anyone spend any amount of money on behalf of candidates or give candidates as much as they want. Make sure the information is very public so that if elected candidates can be held accountable for who financed them. Perhaps even require them to recuse themselves from working on or voting on any legislation which has a direct effect on their contributors. This would require some sort of campaign finance ethics oversight organization.

    The alternative is to limit all contributions to no more than X amount per individual taxpayer, split up any way they like between any candidates or PACs or other issue groups. Unions or companies could pool money from their constituent groups, but would have to be able to identify the contributors and how much money they got from them, and that would count against the individual contribution limit. I’d set the contribution limit at about $1000 per person. With this approach there’s still the problem of the news media, whose influence would be even greater and any bias could have serious repercussions. I can’t see any way to control their influence without violating the first amendment, so I think the first option is really the only way to go.

    Dave

  • Arch Conservative

    I see only one person wanted to discuss Obama’s connections to Acorn and their penchant for committing voter fraud.

    Gee there’s a big surprise.

  • Jordan Richardson

    I see only one person wanted to discuss Obama’s connections to Acorn and their penchant for committing voter fraud.

    ACORN, to my knowledge, is a community organization comprised of low (or middle) income families that addresses social issues. They’re against predatory lending practices (so am I), they uphold the idea of living wages (so do I), they’ve advocated for education reform (yep), they’ve helped out with Katrina relief, and they have some gun control initiatives on the table.

    It came out of the civil rights movement and helped people on welfare achieve their basic needs. It’s an organization that the right has described as “Far Left” and “socialist,” all the while continuing to once again tip off anyone with a brain that most people on the right haven’t the foggiest fucking idea what socialism is or why we should be so afraid of helping others.

    In terms of voter fraud, from what I can tell, a good number of ACORN employees submitted false voter registration forms instead of obtaining eligible voting registrations.

    There’s no doubt about it that those on the right, Palin and Rudy G. especially, want Americans to think that a community organizer is a laughable calling and that helping the poor and forgotten on American streets is a dirty job that should be left to the churches and charity organizations (all the while laughing at those organizations). But the right’s insistence that groups like ACORN are Far Left Hotbeds of Socialism and Red Army Evil is just lame.

    So Arch, let’s discussion Obama and ACORN. Whadda ya got that should present a problem for Obama? The voter fraud? Did Obama have anything to do with it? Or do you have some links to some right-wing editorializing on the group? I’ve read some of those and they are far from convincing. Maybe you’ve got some other information. I dunno, but if you’ve got something on the topic you’re dying to discuss, let’s have it.

  • Cannonshop

    Arch, don’t you know?? It’s only voter fraud if you can pin it on the GOP.

  • Arch Conservative

    Obama has taken money form them during this campaign. He has to know that they have been provent o have committed voter fraud in numerous states, yet he’s taken money from them.

    But I guess Sarah Palin is a bad mom becaus her daugter is pregnant is more of an issue than A candidate taing money form a group that has committed voter fraud huh Jordan?

  • Jordan Richardson

    Arch, is it at all possible for you to discuss an issue without defensiveness or anger? I’m trying to be fair here and learn about this connection.

    Now you say Obama took money from ACORN during his campaign. I think I read Michelle Malkin saying something about this and trying to say that Obama had been fudging the books (or that his campaign had been) in order to cover up his link to this “Far Left Commie” group of do-gooders and voter frauds. I also read Malkin disparaging the work of the group, claiming that it is “anti-capitalist” and against self-reliance. Yeah, those poor people…those fuckers.

    Isn’t voter fraud relatively common, first of all? Yes, I’d assume it’s a problem, but isn’t it something that occurs all the time? And we’re talking about voter fraud in 2004. Wasn’t there a much bigger case of voter fraud in 2004 that was worth looking into?

    But there’s no question about it: Obama and ACORN ought to be thoroughly examined and discussed. Every detail. I agree 100% with that.

    And if we’re looking into Obama and ACORN, a connection which seems to be more a result of right-wing opposition to any group it deems troublesome (ACORN is a “radical group?” Puh-lease!), then we ought to be questioning McCain’s link with Keating. Or his relationship with crime boss Joe Bonano. Or his switch from Episcopalian to Baptist upon entering Baptist territory in South Carolina. And so on.

    Fair is fair. Why are your questions not as pointed towards McCain? If you are interested in fairness (you’re not, you’ve said as much), then why not look at the arguably more dangerous links involving the other candidate in the race? Oh right, Arch. It’s because you hate Barack Obama and have what is essentially a childish personal vendetta against the man and his alleged “socialist” ideals that will ruin your life.

    Well, that makes sense…

  • Arch Conservative

    claiming that it is “anti-capitalist” and against self-reliance. Yeah, those poor people…those fuckers.

    Ummm…it is anti capitalist.

    Look there is nothing wrong with helping those that are truly poor and needy. It’s quite a noble endeavor.

    However that is just the guise that Acorn uses as a front for their real agenda which is to turn this nationa into a socialist state where the federal government controls everything and the free market system is but a fleeting memory.

    Obama has a long history of hanging out with left wing extremists. McCain, while an idiot to be sure, does not have a long history of hanging out with right wing extremists.

    I don’t like McCain but he is much more representative of the traditional, conservative American values that I believe in than Obama. Obama’s cultists can try to spin him into a moderate all day long but they’re not fooling anyone. I think I’ll believe my lyin eyes rather than them.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Ummm…it is anti capitalist.

    First question: in what way? Second question: so fucking what?

    However that is just the guise that Acorn uses as a front for their real agenda which is to turn this nationa into a socialist state where the federal government controls everything and the free market system is but a fleeting memory.

    Proof? And Michelle “O’Reilly’s Nuts On My Chin” Malkin is not a source.

    So basically, you have no problem overlooking the obvious problems in McCain’s closet because he’s more in line with your personal beliefs. But when it comes time to look at “the other guy,” you’re willing to down just about any path to discredit him.

    I will say this, Arch: you’re honest about being prickish.

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    “However that is just the guise that Acorn uses as a front for their real agenda which is to turn this nationa into a socialist state where the federal government controls everything and the free market system is but a fleeting memory.

    Yes, please. Cite your sources on this. Anything remotely impartial will do.

    B

  • http://www.indyboomer46.blogspot.com Baritone

    Again. ACORN has NOT been found guilty or even charged with voter fraud. A small number of either over-zealous and/or greedy individuals who padded their registration lists were brought to court and found guilty.

    B

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    I was also disappointed when some commentators asked how Sarah Palin was going to simultaneously run for Vice President and be a good mother. No one ever asks men how they will run for office and take care of their children. Seen in this light, it is really unfair to ask that question of Palin. It’s also sexist.

    No it’s not. I can’t think of the last male president with a pregnant TEENAGE daughter. Generally pregnant 17 year olds need slightly more support than your typically 35 year old pregnant housewife.

    That leaves one example of sexism and bias. And it wasn’t exactly a mainstream story.

    You’ve got to have more than one mediocre example to make a story.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Just because you’re being told by the McCain campaign and some members of the media that sexism and bias have been at play attacking Sarah Palin, doesn’t mean it’s true. Coverage of bias against her has now taken on far greater proportions than any of the so called sexist/biased criticism of her ever did.

  • Franco

    #53 —Dave Nalle

    “And Franco, Jerome Corsi is a terrible source to use for anything. He’s a hardcore right-winger – so far right that he isn’t a Republican because he thinks Republicans are too far to the left. He also thinks the Bush administration blew up the WTC. He’s a dangerous nut.”

    Dave, I grant you all of that. It was a cheap shot. But I stand by my point that Obama has not been vetted even by the Democrats.

    If throwing out even the likes of Corsi could at least get people to start a vetting process of Obama, which has not occurred despite what the far left is saying, I thought with only 2 months left then what the heck why not. If was a bad and lazy call on my part in substitution for legitimate facts and research, and thank you for pointing it out.

    I have now taken the time to acceptably address my concerns with the following legitimate facts and research. Most of what is stated here comes from the work of a Republican and Democretic who are sourced as follows.

    Republican source: Stanley Kurtz, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, is a Harvard-educated social anthropologist and frequent contributor to National Review, among other publications. He is widely respected for his meticulous research and measured commentary. For months, he has been doing the job the mainstream media refuses to do: examining the background and public record of Barack Obama, the first-term senator Democrats are about to make their nominee for president despite the shallowness of his experience and achievement and there little knowledge of how radically far left he really is.

    Demarcate source: Steve Diamond is a Political Scientist and Law Professor and maintains a blogsite called Global Labor and Politics. He is a liberal Democrat involved in the labor movement and other leftist activisum. He has spent several months working on the Obama/Ayers connections which he maintains on his site because he is highly concerned that the Maxist/Lennists authoritarian instincts of a Bill Ayers would have had such a close politcal relationship with a possible further president.

    FACT: When Obama was asked about his relationship to Bill Ayers (who is married to Bernardine Dohrn), he denied having any association with him and stated “he is just a guy that lives in the neighborhood”.

    FACT: The recent discovery of the Bill Ayers Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) records, a large cache of documents housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), , the public university where Ayers teachesit That document cache contains the internal files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The records in question are extensive, consisting of 132 boxes, containing 947 file folders, a total of about 70 linear feet of material.

    So fare they have reveled that Obama has worked closely with Bill Ayers as far back as 1986 and on up through 2001. This is not to say Obama shares all of Bill Ayers views, but is dose factually evidence a long and close political working relationship between Ayers/Obama.

    So the question is why did Obama deny knowing him?

    Additionally we now know that Obama also launched his political career from the home of Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn.

    Now that all this information is starting to finally come to light, there have been some highly questionable actions taking place with the Obamedia machine sending out its brown shirts in full swing to keep it quite. And that is making the news in and of itself.

    The following factual information is taken for a National Review editorial recently published at the time of the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

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    While the Obama coronation proceeds apace in Denver, it is in Chicago that Americans are getting a disturbing demonstration of his thuggish methods of stifling criticism.

    Obama supporters risibly complain that shining a light on the Obama/Ayers relationship is a “smear” and smacks of “guilt by association.” (We have all seen Baritone say this exact same thing)

    A presidential candidate’s choice to associate himself with an unrepentant Marxist/Leninist terrorist would be highly relevant in any event — does anyone think the Obamedia would keep mum if John McCain had a long-standing relationship with David Duke or an abortion-clinic bomber?

    But we are talking about more than then just mere association between Bill Ayers and Obama, we are talking about a close working political alliance gong on for years.

    Bluntly, Obama has lied about his relationship with Ayers, whom he tries to dismisse as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood.” Ayers and Obama have made joint appearances together; they have argued together for “reforms” of the criminal justice system to make it more criminal-friendly; which are also the main efforts of Ayers wife, Bernardine Dohrn, former leader of the 1969–1980 radical Marxist/Leninist Weather Underground responacable for bombing a San Francisco Police Station killing one officer and blinding another.

    Obama gushed with praise for Ayers’ 1997 polemical book on the Chicago courts; and they sat together for three years on the board of the Woods Fund, a left-wing enterprise that distributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to their ideological extreme left allies. Most significant, they worked closely together on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC).

    By the time the CAC’s operations were wound down in 2001 it had doled out more than $100 million in grants but had failed to achieve any improvement in the Chicago schools. What little is known about the grants Obama oversaw is troubling. As Diamond relates, one of the first CAC awards in 1995 was $175,000 for the “Small Schools Workshop,” which had been founded by Ayers and was then headed by Mike Klonsky.who is an American educator and political activist, and a current leader of the New Communist Movement. It was only the beginning of the CAC’s generous funding of Klonsky who had been an Ayers comrade in the radical Students for a Democratic Society (the forerunner of Ayers’ Weatherman terrorist organization), and who hosted a “social justice” blog on the Obama campaign website until his writings were hastily purged in June after Steve Diamond called attention to them.

    The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) records, said to comprise 70 linear feet of files, have long been maintained at the library of the UIC, the public university where Ayers teaches. This summer, Kurtz made an appointment to review them and, after being assured access, was blocked from seeing them by library administrators, who stammered about needing permission from the “donor” — whom they declined to identify. Kurtz energetically raised public awareness to the stonewalling, and the library finally relented this week. That is, as Barack Obama prepares to accept the Democrats’ nomination tonight, the records of his only significant executive experience just became available for review on Tuesday.

    Kurtz began his review, and on Wednesday was invited on Milt Rosenberg’s radio program to discuss it. Rosenberg is a Chicago institution. His program, “Extension 720,” has aired for more than 30 years — a civil forum where knowledgeable guests from across the political spectrum discuss important issues in revealing two-hour interviews. What happened Wednesday night was stunning, as even the normally unflappable Rosenberg observed.

    Note: Now before I go on with what happens next, please keep in mind what John Peter Zenger once said.

    “No nation, ancient or modern, ever lost the liberty of speaking freely, writing, or publishing their sentiments, but forthwith lost their liberty in general and became slaves”. John Peter Zenger (1736)

    The Obama campaign — which has emissaries appearing everywhere — declined Rosenberg’s invitation to have a representative appear on the program and respond to Kurtz’s factual assertions. The campaign did, however, issue an “Obama Action Wire” that encouraged supporters to contact the program (telephone information was provided) and use scripted “talking points” to disrupt Kurtz’s appearance, which it deemed “unacceptable.”

    Other than denigrating Kurtz for being conservative, Obama’s operatives have provided no response to the substance of his claims. In their only pretense of engaging him, they accuse him of telling “a flat out lie” that Ayers recruited Obama for the CAC. Though it is a reasonable inference that Ayers recruited Obama, the careful Kurtz has stopped short of making it — observing only that Obama offers no explanation of how he was recruited if not through Ayers, his friend and the CAC’s driving force.

    The Milt Rosenberg radio program station, WGN, has made an mp3 stream of the broadcast available online, here, and it has to be heard to be believed. It’s perhaps the most important radio show you will listen to this year. Obama’s robotic legions dutifully jammed the station’s phone lines and inundated the program with emails, attacking Kurtz personally. Pressed by Rosenberg to specify what inaccuracies Kurtz was guilty of, caller after caller demurred, mulishly railing that “we just want it to stop,” and that criticism of Obama was “just not what we want to hear as Americans.” Remarkably, as Obama sympathizers raced through their script, they echoed the campaign’s insistence that it was Rosenberg who was “lowering the standards of political discourse” by having Kurtz on, rather than the campaign by shouting him down.

    Kurtz has clearly hit a nerve. It is the same nerve hit by the American Issues Project, whose television ad calling for examination of the Obama/Ayers relationship has prompted the Obama campaign lawyers to demand that the Justice Department begin a criminal investigation. Obama fancies himself as “post-partisan.” He is that only in the sense that he apparently brooks no criticism. This episode could be an alarming preview of what life will be like for the media should the party of the Fairness Doctrine gain unified control of the federal government next year.

    End of National Review Editorial notes. Editorial link

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    With these newly reviewed records this is starting to become too big of a question for the MSM not to pick up on. Has Kuntz notes in the broadcasst, CNN, The New York Times and others were all at the UIC libray when he went to conduct his review of the CAC fils. Obama will have to explain why he lied and why he is allowing his campain to call the libray recoreds lies and using Kuntz as the scape goat. At this point I dont think Obama can admit to it and win the exlection, so his campaign is going to contiue to stiffle free speach on it for the next 2 months. I don’t think thy can get away with it but they are probaly past the half way point in being able to stop trying.

    It must be remembered also that no matter how the Obama campaign, or the MSM try and soft peddle Bill Ayers it won’t hold water. Bill Ayers is a hardcore leftist Marxist/Leninist idealest who doled out publicly funded charter education grant funds that he received at the CAC to the likes of his close friends Mike Klonsky the leader of the New Communist Movement in the United States, and Ayers is more interested in the governmental workings of Hugo Chavez then he is in genuinely democratic politics. He recently went to Venezuela and gave speeches praising and glorifying Hugo Chavez and denouncing free market enterprise.

    Those facts the MSM can not spin away even though they have tried. Can you imagine what life would be like today without the intenet and having to completely rely on the MSM?

    Here is how the MSM has been soft peddling Willaim “Bill” Ayers so far earlier this year. “The former Weatherman, William Ayers, now holds the position of distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago.”

    I ask you, do you see any mention of Bill Ayers and his CAC chater grant funding of the likes of Mike Klonsky the leader of the New Communist Movement in the US, or of Ayers trips to Venezuela making public speeches lauding Hugo Chavez and denounces free market economics. I guess the MSM dose not see a close political relationship with Obama as the board chairmen of Ayers CAC and the funding of Marxist/Leninist organization all in the name of “better charter school education” as important information for American voters.

    Now Obama just stated today that he wants to double spending on Charter Schools. Charter schools are elementary or secondary schools in the United States that receive public money but have been freed from some of the rules, regulations, and statutes of public schools. Most charter schools are founded by activists who feel restricted by traditional public schools The money is publicly funded as opposed to public schools which are supported by taxes.

    The CAC’s successful charter grant application was written in 1993 by Bill Ayers. The CAC’s operations were closed in 2001, and subsumed into those of the Annenberg Institute for Social Reform.

    Seeing that Ayers and his now debunked Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) went through more then $110,000,000 in education grants and used the money for the likes of his radial friends Mike Klonsky and others, and failed to raise the Charter school educational standards, how does that fit in with the fact that Obama was the acting chair of the broad of CAC. Not only are the actions of the CAC questionable, they failed to meet there requriements. This bring to light a lot of questions concerning Obama’s ablitites to manage and he should be vetted in answering if he wants our trust to become the next president.

    A listening of Stanley Kurtz’s appearance on the Milt Rosenberg radio program in Chicago the other night provided an unsettling look into the authoritarian tactics being employed by the Obama campaign to stifle and intimidate this new found information.

    The experience was surreal, amusing, and chilling. In a matter of hours, the Obama national campaign had called on its legions to bully a radio show out of airing an interview with a legitimate scholar asking legitimate political questions.

    This is the “Action Wire” that the main office of the Obama Campaign office in Chicago (1/4 of a mile down that street for the radio show) sent out after the Obama campain manager was telephoned and invited to have anyone from the Obama campaign onto the WGN radio show to refute Kuntz factual clames.

    ————————————

    From the Obama Campaign “Action Wire”:

    [Name] —

    In the next few hours, we have a crucial opportunity to fight one of the most cynical and offensive smears ever launched against Barack.

    Tonight, WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears. He’s currently scheduled to spend a solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. pushing lies, distortions, and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois professor William Ayers.

    Tell WGN that by providing Kurtz with airtime, they are legitimizing baseless attacks from a smear-merchant and lowering the standards of
    political discourse.

    Call into the “Extension 720″ show with Milt Rosenberg at (312) 591-7200

    (Show airs from 9:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. tonight)
    ———————————-

    Here is another “Action Wire” also sent out.
    ———————————–

    Action Wire Aleart!

    Kurtz has been using his absurd TV appearances in an awkward and dishonest attempt to play the terrorism card. His current ploy is to
    embellish the relationship between Barack and Ayers.

    Just last night on Fox News, Kurtz drastically exaggerated Barack’s connection with Ayers by claiming Ayers had recruited Barack to the
    board of the Annenberg Challenge. That is completely false and has been disproved in numerous press accounts.

    It is absolutely unacceptable that WGN would give a slimy character assassin like Kurtz time for his divisive, destructive ranting on our public airwaves. At the very least, they should offer sane, honest rebuttal to every one of Kurtz’s lies.

    Calling will only take a minute, and it will make a huge difference if we nip this smear in the bud. Confront Kurtz tonight before this goes
    any further:

    Please forward this email to everyone you know who can make a call tonight.

    Keep fighting the good fight,

    Obama Action Wire
    ———————————

    It’s the Obama campaign and their thug-zombies who are “lowering the standards of political discourse.” And I have to repeat–the Obama campaign was invited to send a member of their staff to appear on the show. They said no, and instead they chose a more intimidating way to respond.

    The thing that is so important to note here is when you listen to the recorded live WGN radio broadcast Kuntz was only asking legitimate questions based on information he has found in the UIC library. And the Obama Action Wire sent out in place of the Obama campaign excepting an invitation to apear on the show with Kuntz clearly shows the Obama supporters calling in where the ones pushing baseless, fear-mongering smears, lies, distortions, and manipulations while Kuntz and Rosenberg both remained calm and focued and showed sane honest arguments that no one could rebuttal and which no one could on BC after listening to the recorded WGN radio broadcast.

    Kurtz and Rosenberg were great–and deserve medals for keeping their composure and remaining calm in last night’s sea of insanity–a.k.a. Hurricane Barack.

    When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago Defender and the Hyde Park Herald featured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force.

    This then leads to the legitimate question as to why Obama lied to the nation concerning his relationship to Ayers. The information that Kuntz found also proves that the Bill Ayers Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) was more interested in pushing funds into radial ideology groups over actually improving education. What does Candidate Obama have to say about that especially since he wants to double spending on charter schools if they are e operated by the likes of Ayers CAC charter?

    These are fair and honest questions, and it is painfully obvious that Obama’s National Campaign managers do not want him to have to answer them.

    And finally, Barack Obama is on record of opposing the the return of the ludicrously named “Fairness Doctrine” which would limit free speech and would have made Wednesday night’s Extensiion 720 show an impossibility. However, Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi favors bringing the Fairness Doctrine back, and a President Obama could flip-flop (He does that, you know) and sign it into law.

    First they came for the talk radio hosts, but I said nothing because I was not one. Then they came for the the cable TV hosts, but I said nothing because I was not one.

    Then they came for the bloggers.

    Obama has not been vetted.

    But I think this new information coming to light out of the UIC library is getting too big of an issue for the Omaha shirts to intimidate away now.

    Do any of the following googles:

    Kuntz+Rosenberg
    Rosenberg+Obama
    Rosenberg+Kuntz
    Obama+Kunts
    Mike Klonsky+Ayers
    Kuntz+Obama
    Steve Diamond+Obama

    There, I have done the homework and listed the facts in paying my redemption for my failing to do so before by lazily throwing out Jerome Corsi in an less the honorable effort to get the Obama vetting process rolling for this great nation.

    Forgive me BC, for I have sinned.

    There Dave, it took me awhile but I would like to hear your comments on the radio shows mp3 link of the live broadcast.

    Baritone, I would also like to here from you if you really listen to the mp3 link above and see if you can legitimately refute Kuntz’s evidence from newly released UIC library files, or if you are going to continue to sound off like all the Obama brown shirt callers did on the WGN Roesenberg radio talk show.

  • Jordan Richardson

    I only skimmed your alarmingly long post, Franco, but I can already tell you that any Google search with “Kuntz” as a term is going to be…interesting.

  • Franco

    Now lets turn the coin over. In utter contrast to what the Obama campaign tries to stop, and how they go about it, take a look at the extremes they go to in finding anything they can against their opponents.

    City slickers invade Wasilla
    September 9, 2008

    Democrats understand Sarah Palin is a formidable political force who has upset the Obama victory plan. The latest Washington Post/ABC Poll shows John McCain taking a 12-point lead over Barack Obama among white women, a reversal of Mr. Obama’s eight-point lead last month.

    It’s no surprise, then, that Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage, the state capital Juneau and Mrs. Palin’s hometown of Wasilla to dig into her record and background. Sources report the first wave arrived in Anchorage less than 24 hours after John McCain selected her on August 29.

    THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

  • Franco

    Jordan

    Yes it is. But I am not sure Palin will show up yet on such a search.

    Kurtz

    I am dyslexic, and suffer zomething terabell wit spellidg, I do the very best I can.

  • Franco

    Jordon

    I know it is a long post, but given the subject matter is should be fully developed. If I could have used more then 3 links I could have cut it by 70% to achive the same archimedean point

    But I also got my ass in hot water for dragging out Jerome Corsi and needed to make redemption.

    Such is the life of a right-wing Christian fundamentalist/zygote.

    Naturally, this infuriates the Dawkinsian atheists, who, for all their talk of applying reason to religion, want in fact to abolish it and extinguish its memory except as something with which to frighten children.

    If you find it too long to fully review how about just linking to the recored WGN radio mp3 under the link named “here”.

    It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on that.

  • Clavos

    Very thoroughly researched and presented, Franco.

    Of course, the Obama supporters will attack you shortly.

    If you don’t like the message, shoot the messenger…

  • Franco

    “Of course, the Obama supporters will attack you shortly.”

    It would not have been worth doing if that did not happen.

    Thanks Clavos.