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The Republicans Lost? It’s Quiz Day!

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I happened to tune into the Sean Hannity Show on our local conservative talk station. I expected him to be saying something about the election or about Republican strategy going forward. Instead, Hannity was conducting one of those annoying faux "man on the street" interviews, where the point is to prove how stupid the general population is, and enforce the audience's feeling of superiority. The "Jaywalking" segments on the Jay Leno Show are of the same type.

Hannity had obviously planted callers in advance, because they were set up with a list of pictures; the same four pictures for each participant: of Donald Rumsfeld, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Britney Spears. Predictably, the people he had selected to respond could identify Britney Spears but not the other three. The horror!

One woman self-identified as a Democrat and could not identify Reid or Pelosi. She was appropriately chastized. Another woman also identified as a Democrat. She identified Reid and Pelosi, but Hannity pressed the point, asking the woman to name one thing that Pelosi had done in office. The answer is not much, other than oppose all the stuff that the Republicans were doing. I can't really think of much that Pelosi has done; she's hardly been a maverick as minority leader.

Hannity is obviously handling the loss by ignoring the real cause — that is, massive dissatisfaction with Republican foreign policy — and explaining to the Republican base that people who vote for Democrats are stupid and uninformed. Well, whatever makes him feel better.

More generally the spin among conservative talk hosts has been that the loss is actually good for the party, weeding out moderates and 'big government conservatives' who have violated the party orthodoxy in the interest of winning elections.

"I feel liberated, and I'm going to tell you as plainly as I can why," said Rush Limbaugh, "I no longer am going to carry the water for people who I don't think deserve having their water carried."

But it's not really possible for Limbaugh to "carry water", since he doesn't engage in independent critical thinking. It was rather impolitic of him to tell his audience flat out that he doesn't represent his own honest opinions.

O'Reilly tried to wish the Iraq situation out of existence, saying, "I don't ever want to hear Shiia and Sunni again."

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  • Arch Conservative

    I don’t get it……….. For the past 6 or so years those on the left have been calling anyone who supported Bush or the GOP “neocons” saying that they are not real conservatives.

    But now that many on the right are saying that the GOP lost because they’re supporters felt the party wasn’t practicing real conservative values we’re just making excuses?

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    “Hannity had obviously planted callers in advance, because they were set up with a list of pictures; the same four pictures for each participant: of Donald Rumsfeld, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Britney Spears. Predictably, the people he had selected to respond could identify Britney Spears but not the other three. The horror!”

    I doubt he needed to “plant” anybody to get that result. Honestly, most people who don’t follow politics as close as we do (and we make up maybe 10% of the population) simply don’t have a clue. They only know what the headline is on the USA Today and what the “lead story” is on the local evening news. And that’s about it.

    Seriously, try this at work tomorrow. Ask ten of your co-workers what city Nancy Pelosi represents as a member of the House of Representatives. This is something that anyone who follows politics at all should know. But I bet no more than two or three can correctly answer that one.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    By the way, I really admire you for being interested in politics at such a relatively young age (as high school student). Way to go! :)

  • Arch Conservative

    “Seriously, try this at work tomorrow. Ask ten of your co-workers what city Nancy Pelosi represents as a member of the House of Representatives”

    But they obviously know what they’re talking baout if they say any of the following:

    1. the botoxed bitch from San Fransisco
    2. Bela Pelosi
    3. San Fran Nan

  • http://lowether.blogspot.com Sam Jack

    I’m dazzled by your wit, Arch.

  • MCH

    “It was rather impolitic of him (Limbaugh) to tell his audience flat out that he doesn’t represent his own honest opinions.”

    Keep in my mind Sam, this is the same hypocrite who, when Bill Clinton was in office, used to spew rhetoric like “Never trust a draft dodger!”, referring to Clinton’s student deferments from the Vietnam War.

    And where was Limbaugh during Vietnam? He missed it, too, with a medical deferment granted by his family physician due to a pilonidal cyst (an ingrown hair) on his ass.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    “And where was Limbaugh during Vietnam? He missed it, too, with a medical deferment granted by his family physician due to a pilonidal cyst (an ingrown hair) on his ass.”

    Methinks you take Al Franken a bit too seriously.

    From here:

    A pilonidal cyst […] is a blanket term for any type of skin infection near the tailbone. These are normally quite painful […]

    The condition was widespread in United States Army during World War II. More than eighty thousand soldiers had the condition requiring hospitalization. […]

    Often the cyst is lanced, and surgery is a method that has met with some success for curing pilonidal cysts. […] [emphasis mine]

    Bill Clinton, on the other hand, wrote a letter to an ROTC Colonel claiming that he and many other young people were “loathing the military” and that he didn’t want to join. See here:

    First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft … I came to believe that the draft system itself is illegitimate…

    One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity…

    I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress…

    ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid… Vietnam… after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board… so many fine people have come to find themselves… loathing the military… it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    The point is, Rush Limbaugh had a legitimate medical reason for not being drafted, whereas Bill Clinton only had a grovelling letter to an ROTC decision-maker that kept him out of the draft.

  • Clavos

    BTW, Editors:

    IMO, the new font’s “bold” isn’t very. That’s why I’ve started underlining what I want to emphasize.
    Can it be made darker/thicker?

    Hm?

  • http://alienboysworld.blogspot.com Christopher Rose

    Guys, I’ve sorted out the code errors for you. RJ – you had several and not for the first time ;-)

    Also, as far as I know, it is er, unusual to put ellipses in brackets so I took them out.

    And I think the bold is plenty bold enough…

  • Clavos

    And I think the bold is plenty bold enough…

    I wonder what Eric thinks?

  • MCH

    “The point is, Rush Limbaugh had a legitimate medical reason for not being drafted…”

    If it was “legitimate,” why has he lied about it? THE RUSH LIMBAUGH STORY by Paul Colford, Chapter 2, “Beating the Draft,” documents at least three different lies by Limbaugh regarding his deferment:
    1) Limbaugh originally stated publicly that his derement was for a “football knee,” which Colford’s research, through interviews with his high school coach and a teammate, found out to be spurious;
    2) Limbaugh had publicly claimed that he received the deferment prior to the 1970 draft, which was also disproved by Colford;
    3) Limbaugh has stated that he wouldn’t have been drafted anyway, since he had a “high draft number”…another lie, as Colford’s research discovered that his number was actually 152, well below the cut-off of 195 for the summer of 1970.

    Regarding the seriousness of the pimple on his ass, Limbaugh has even said that he “didn’t even know he had it,” before the physical (wow, what a malady!) and that his own father had the same thing and lied about so he could serve in World War II.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    I think it’s fair to say that Rush could have served if he really wanted to, but he clearly didn’t. It’s also quite obvious that BJ Clinton could have served had he wanted to, but instead went to great lengths to avoid the draft. And he didn’t even have the “pimple-on-his-ass” excuse going for him… :-/

  • MCH

    I’ve never disagreed that Clinton was a draft dodger. My point is that Limbaugh’s a phoney and hypocrite for attacking him as such, in addition to his labeling anyone opposed to the invasion of Iraq “weak-kneed” or “spineless”, considering Limbaugh’s own cowardice during Vietnam.

    “BJ Clinton could have served had he wanted to, but instead went to great lengths to avoid the draft.”
    – RJ Elliott

    So did he go through any greater lengths than your avoidance of service in the Iraq War?

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    Dude, where’s the Draft? The Draft ended several years before I was even born!

    And as I’ve said before, I believe we need a Draft right now, in the War On Terror. I would not dodge the Draft if I was called up. I doubt they would even take me, but if they did I would not flee to Canada or write grovelling letters in an effort to avoid service to my nation.

    I was hoping the personal attacks would end at some point. I guess I was mistaken… :-/

  • MCH

    “I would not…if they did…I would not…yadda, yadda yadda…”

    Until you act on your words, you haven’t done anything yet, except type an endless string of empty rhetoric on a blog.

    And re the “personal attacks,” methinks thou doth whine too much. (hint: look in the mirror)

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