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I admit, I have been mooning about lately, so perhaps my present list of the moment – the current top songs on my own list, which I compile periodically – is not to be completely trusted.

That said, I can’t imagine why anyone wouldn’t at least try some of these songs. Unless they are way out of your genre (so far that you couldn’t crawl home), then I think, why not give it a shot?

Without any more stalling, here is my list of the moment:

“Je Reviens” by Autour de Lucie – This song just flows through the lips. It has an ever-present French pout about it, and a slight whispering quality that makes this glide out of the speakers soft as baby powder hitting your face. It’s like a very gentle breath blown by a lover on the ear. This song seems perfect for anyone having or wishing to have an affair, for the newly involved or for those lucky few who remain in love despite the many years that go by. Suffice to say, I think this an incredibly romantic, but also sexual/sensual song. See if you can find it and give it a quick listen.

“Ne Me Quitte Pas” by Sting – This is a great cover of a truly romantic song. One not need understand the words to understand that the song is a heartfelt plea (the title, “Ne Me Quitte Pas,” means “Don’t Leave Me” in French). Many versions of this song are available for download, but this one is the best – and who can beat Sir Sting?

“Desert Rose” (Arabic Remix) by Sting – I admit to liking the original, and yes, I know this isn’t a new song, in fact, not many on this list are new. But the List of the Moment is simply what I am listening to most. The Arabic Remix features more of Cheb Khalid, who is doing the Arabic singing, and it’s just beautiful. Like the original, but better. I can practically hear camel bells in the distance.

“Heroin” by Lou Reed - What can I say? Old though it is, this 1974 song still has incredible guts and amazing lines (“it’s my life and it’s my wife…”) and so many other great lines, too many to list. What’s more, it’s honest, probably the most honest song I’ve ever heard about addiction. “Heroin” is completely unapologetic, which in this case is good. Reminds me of Kurt Cobain’s “Lithium” in some ways.

“She’s in Fashion” by Suede – This is like the new version of the Pet Shop Boys’ “West End Girls” (which I also love). This song has such great style. It sounds like what they are singing about, which is quite a cool trick. I highly recommend you find a copy of this song.

“Thirteen” by Big Star – Why did I ever put that CD aside? I just heard a cover of this tune by the late Elliott Smith and so wanted to hear the original again (Big Star are just a generally amazing band). I listened to the whole album, but this song always sticks. Sweet, a backward glance. And I’ll throw in here “Alex Chilton” by the Replacements, which makes reference to Big Star and is also an amazing song.

“Why’d Ya Do It” by Marianne Faithfull – I have never heard an angrier song about infidelity; for this reason, it makes the list. If you don’t know it, find it. The song is vicious and so worthwhile – it says everything I would say in that situation were I in it. That’s saying a lot – it’s pretty serious. Try a sample if you can’t find it to download, or just trust me and go buy the album Broken English.

“All My Life” by Evan Dando – Ah, one of my favorite artists! Dando also did the song “Hard Drive,” which made another of my lists. “All My Life” is as good as “Hard Drive,” if not better. It’s a sad song, no question, because all the things he thought he wanted he didn’t want at all. You can probably listen to a clip of this at Amazon. It’s from the album, Baby, I’m Bored.

“Hallellujah” by Jeff Buckley – I’ve heard various renditions of this song, even one by Bob Dylan that I absolutely loved. Of course, there’s the orginal by Leonard Cohen, which nobody can really beat, but Jeff Buckley’s version is especially poignant. It’s ethereal and dreamy as if it were sung under water. Eerily enough, Buckley recorded “Hallelujah” for his 1994 LP Grace, which turned out to be his last studio album before his drowning death in 1997. Regardless of that sad fact, this version could make angels weep – it’s that beautiful and that mournful. I know that doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement – rush out and buy a depressing piece of music! – but trust me, this is a beautiful, beautiful song, as is “Everybody Here Wants You” from the same album. Check out both of these list-makers.

“Harley David (Son of a Bitch)” by Serge Gainsbourg – A Frenchman singing “Eh, qu’est c’que tu fais sur ma Harley…” is pretty hard to beat. It’s funny, especially given that it’s coming from Gainsbourg. who is usually so self-serious. Maybe he intended this to be serious too. The joke is on someone, though I’m not sure who. Better than “Je t’aime moi non plus,” which is good, but gets tiring after several plays.

“Cigarettes Will Kill You” by Ben Lee – Great lyrics and a great piano key. The main refrain, “And I want a TV embrace…” Me too. A perfect song. It’s that simple.

“See a Little Light” by Bob Mould – Reminiscent in some ways of his ’80s band Hüsker Dü, but still all Mould’s own. Uplifting and harder, but still right on the money. This is a good one. If you haven’t heard it yet – do.

“Heaven” by the Rolling Stones - Flowing and perfect. I would even say it’s one of my favorites, but then, there are so many.

“Answering Bell” by Ryan Adams – I love this song. It has a great ringing quality to it and is so different from the album that followed (Heartbreaker, though there is much to love on there, especially “To Be Young”). “Answering Bell” features great lyrics and it’s memorable. When a song stays in your head that long, or comes back, it has some special something or it’s really annoying. I don’t find this one annoying. I find it pretty great.

And of course, we can’t have a list without Bob Dylan – so the song of the moment for the Bob count is:

“Can’t Leave Her Behind” - This hard-to-find work-in-progress was never released officially by Dylan, was only available as a bootleg until recently. Not sure exactly how I came to have a copy, but you can hear it on Martin Scorsese’s acclaimed Dylan documentary No Direction Home. This unfinished song is a beautiful work; that it was recorded in a hotel room (back in 1966) takes nothing away from it. I can’t imagine why he didn’t release it.

So that’s the list of the moment of the songs I’ve been listening to. It may not be contemporary, but it’s where my head is.

This collection, like anything, is so changeable that I update the List of the Moment pretty regularly. Next installment to follow when things change.

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About Sadi Ranson-Polizzotti

  • http://gratefuldread.net Natalie Davis

    I trust your list, Ms. Ranson-Polizzotti. Knowing most of these songs extremely well (and fortunately enough, having most of these LPs and the Dylan doc), I have heard and loved them for a long time. My particular faves are the Marianne Faithfull rant, Lou Reed’s “Heroin” and Jeff Buckley’s soaring “Hallelujah.” (And I’ll be pulling out Hüsker Dü shortly – thanks for the inspiration.) These are great recommendations, and I hope people will try out your selections. Can’t wait for the next installment!

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hi Natalie D. – Yes, most of these songs are older but they’re just very present in my mind at the moment, hence they made the cut. Thanks for the comment about great recommendations… i too hope people will check out some of the lesser known stuff, and the old stuff if they don’t know it, and get on board. Husker Du and Bob Mould (remember Sweet?) are amazing and “See A Little Light” is one of the best songs I know…. really.

    thanks for all,

    sadi

  • http://www.evandando.co.uk Roo Simpson

    Good to see Evan Dando featured on the list.
    Don’t know if Amazon does have clips or not, but you can hear clips of both the songs mentioned at http://www.evandando.co.uk

  • http://www.livejournal.com/users/cmpwrite/ Connie Phillips

    Sadi,
    What an interesting and wonderful list of songs. Thank you for sharing your choices as well as your insight. There are several I know, and a few I’m going to just have to check out based on how much I like the rest of your list.

  • http://indemnification.blogspot.com -E

    I’m in agreement that your list of the moment is made of some great songs. Thanks for sharing and for describing them all so well :)

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    thanks all, my list is just what strikes me at a particular time and this month, this is it. i try to do this monthly as it is mutable, changable, so keep an eye out. Hopefully, i can turn people onto some new stuff as well as remind them of the good older stuff that is out there.

    I’m also very into Lou Reed’s Heroin right now, which is just a freakin’ great great song… and Nina Simone (my baby just cares for me). Also great.

    thanks for reading!

    s.

  • chantal stone

    I haven’t heard Sting sing Ne me Quitte Pas…but I LOVE LOVE LOVE Nina Simone singing it…….great list, Sadi.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hey Chantal – Nina Simone is amazing but do download Sting singing “Ne Me Quitte Pas” because it’s just incredible. It’s the live version, and just out of this world. I think you could be a convert…. but then again, Nina Simone is pretty damn great. Still, i recomend trying it… always try new things, right?

    thanks for chiming in,

    s.

  • http://gohah.blogspot.com Gordon GoHah Mellencamp Hauptfleisch

    Good stuff–glad to see Bob Mould get a nod–if you haven’t heard Sugar, his group in and out of his solo releases, you may want to check that out: uplifting and harder, too, but also blistering and infectious at times. Always good to see Big Star on anyone’s list, too

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    heya: yup, i know Sugar v. well and am a big fan, as well as the earlier incarnation of Husker Du.

    Big Star/Alex Chilton/The Replacements just can’t be beat. Paul Westerberg has gotten better and better (now that he stopped drinking and drugs), tho i admit, seeing the Replacements drunk was always fun because they did these awful covers of songs and would forget all of the words…. pretty funny, but sorta sad.

    Never got to see Husker Du, alas, but have seen some great people in my time, though this dates me: Echo and the Bunnymen, New Order, Thompson Twins, Iggy Pop, David Bowie, Billy Idol, Kula Shaker, Everything But the Girl, Elliott Smith…. so many others…. some hardcore, like Black Flag and others totally off the map like Pete and Lou Berryman who are just too weird and to funny for words.

    Speaking of live shows, i used to follow the Butthole Surfers around the country; that was pretty amazing – always a great show. I’ll never forget seeing them in Boston (i’m epileptic) and having a seizure right there in the mosh pit. It was a bitch, apparently, to get me out of there for the EMTs. I don’t remember anything of course, but i’m sorry i missedhalf hte show…. alas….

    i usually do my List of the Moment every month since it’s changable, so keep an eye out if you like….

    Rock on and thanks for reading,

    sade

  • Gordon GoHah Mellencamp Hauptfleisch

    a seizure in the mosh pit? (good title for a book). also saw Replacements when Westerberg was in one of his non-sober moments lying flat on the stage singing “Yummy, Yummy, Yummy I got love in my tummy …” And Iggy Pop in one of his more contentious and bloody moods. Would’ve loved to have seen Elliot Smith. I’ll definitely keep an eye out for your “List of the Moment” (good idea)–Gordon

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Dear G – oh, you’re right, it is a good title for a book. My current book is called Grand Mal, but i like your idea better, though it sorta doesn’t apply to this book, alas.

    Westerberg was a nightmare when drunk. Ugh about Iggy: i couldn’t have handled that stuff… thank god i missed that.

    Elliott Smith was freakin’ AMAZING as was Bob Dylan when i saw him. I’ll be seeing him again this year, pray pray. But Smith was great and ended the show by singing “Thirteen” by Big Star. You can find it in download, or, if you can find a way to get me your address, i’ll send you the MP3 of it if you’re interested. I have lots of Elliott Smith bootlegs that are live and of good quality. Let me know. I’m sure Eric O. could hook us up.

    Glad you’ll look for next list. Probably in three weeks or so, or a month. Depends on how much my music list changes sincei listen to music all day when i work…

    thanks again, and glad you like this idea. = rock on. s.

  • mike

    sadi, do you mean Cheb Mami (rather than Khaled).

    If you like Mami’s voice on that track see if you can track down a free listen to him singing one of his own songs, ‘Douha Alia’. Mellow and exquisite. He has some excellent albums, especially the early ones if you like Rai music. The same for Khaled. If you like Khaled’s later, more World-y stuff stuff it’s worth the effort to track down earlier albums like “Hada Raykoum” when he was still using the title ‘cheb’ in front of his name.

    I lost my copy of Broken English about 20 years ago. Shame, ‘Why d’ya do it’ was the stand out track for me on it.

    French pop is wonderful too, quite overlooked. It would be a great tool in schools. What better way to pick up reasonable French than listening to popular music. even kids who think they aren’t the slightest bit interested in French might perk their ears up at MC Solaar.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hey Mike, I have Khaled, but maybe that’s wrong. That’s the name i was given with the song, so i assume it’s right. it’s on the “Arabic Remix” version of Desert Rose. Regardless, i will still check out the other name you note and see what i can find.

    Yes, Broken English the best track is Why’d Ya Do It, which is just scathing and brutal and everything we feel but are afraid to say, so it’s cathartic.

    I love MC Solaar and almost put them on this list with Solaar Pleure, but decided against it since it’s better for my next list i think. Right now i’m really into Autour de Lucie and Je Reviens which i can’t get enough of, as well as Charlelie Couture and his song, “Commme une avoin sans aile” which is a great great song and i recommend downloading it if you can. It’s excellent. It should be under his name… or the song name perhaps.

    I don’t think I know Cheb Mami; is that who supposedly sings on Desert Rose? if so, please do tell me… i need to know for an upcoming gift…. it would be helpful… weird to have the wrong name.

    Essentially, any signing that sounds like it does on Desert Rose would appeal to me a great deal. I’m taking recommendations.

    I speak French and learn a great deal from listenig to French pop… you can at least pick up a great accent…..

    thanks for your help!!! :) et bonsoir!

  • mike

    There’s a lo-fi (21 kbps) download here (640 kb) of Douha Alia should you be interested.

    and about 100 other Mami downloads here

  • mike

    Sadi, salut, our messages crossed. Yes it’s Mami with Sting. Desert Rose is also on that download site I put above.

    After Khaled I think Cheb Mami is perhaps the best known of the Algerian Rai musicians and is also popular in France of course.

    I’ll hunt down Je Reviens.

    Are you a fan of the film ‘La Haine’ too?

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    hey Mike:

    just downloaded both: yes, it is Ched Mami on the one with Sting, not Cheb Khaled, as i was told. Ahhhh, misinformation. thanks for all of your help. Best download site is http://www.safeshare.com where you pay a one time fee and then download all you want. excellent place. you can Google the name SafeShare and you’ll find it. Am now listening to the Habibi mix …. in shal’a’hah, habibi….

    s.

  • mike

    PS – BTW, the background hiss on the (very lo) lo-fi download is a nuisance but the track gives you an idea of the quality of his voice. The original track is quality hi-fi of course.

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    Some marvelous stuff on here. I do want to hear the original version of “Thirteen” because I love Elliott Smith’s version (as far as I am concerned, Elliott Smith could do no wrong).

    Buckley’s version of “Hallelujah” is devastating. I love Ryan Adams’ Heartbreaker album (for some reason the Wife to Whom I Am Married and I both love “Come Pick Me Up.” It’s a great song but not one you would think couples would like).

    Some terrific choices. I will have to do my homework on some of these others.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Smith’s version is more poignant in some ways, i think, though the original Big Star version is always worth the time and you should certainly hear it.

    Too bad Smith didn’t agree that he could do no wrong…. he’s suicide left a huge gaping hole; if only he knew how big it would be…

    Thanks for chiming in… rock on. — sade

  • Gordon GoHah Mellencamp Hauptfleisch

    regarding Elliot Smith’s death–there was speculation that it may have been a homicide and that was being followed-up, but I haven’t heard any updates.(?)

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hi Gordon – last i heard it was a clear-cut suicide, no questions. It seemed pretty clear to me and knowing what i do know about Smith, it makes perfect sense (esp. if his music was at all autobiographical, as i suspect, then it really adds up). Also the album he was recording at the time of his death is pretty dark, so it does make sense.

    I hadn’t heard of this murder theory until you said it…. who on earth would have done this and why in that manner. Wasn’t it a knife through the heart (i hate to be grisly here, but for the conversation it’s necessary)…. i thought that said it all. Amen. and as he would say “What a fucking joke….”

  • http://gohah.blogspot.com Gordon GoHah Mellencamp Hauptfleisch

    Sadi–yeah, not too long after Smith’s death they found the usual array of inconsistencies, etc. with suspicion centering on his girlfriend. In fact I’ve since come across a BC post here from Marty Dodge January 12, 2004 (“Smith’s Girlfriend Speak”) that deals with it, in addition to newspaper accounts, Rolling Stone, Spin, etc. at the time.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Gordon – wow…. i hadn’t heard any of this. Do you think there’s any truth in it, or do you think it’s more myth/legend because of the way he died and the fact of his fame. People do like to talk….perhaps his girlfriend did kill him though, though it’s hard t fathom, when i had accepted this as a suicide for so long, but still… that’s rather mindblowing…

    rock on. s.

  • zingzing

    i looked at the comments briefly, and didn’t see the point i wish to make… but if you like reed’s ’74 version of heroin, go check out the original on “velvet underground and nico” from 1967. it’s a sunuvabitch.

    then, just for fun, pick up big star’s “third/sisterlovers”

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    have the 67 version, Zing Zing, and it’s totally insane, if it’s the version i downloaded which i believe it is (says it is). Will check out Big Star rec. I love Big Star so anything worth looking at i will… is that a song title? if not, any song title suggestions from that album?

    question for you = who would you say is the American equivalent of John Cale, if anyone? I’ve been having this conversation w/ a friend and we can’t sort it out. Obvious answer is Lou Reed, but they are so different. I say Tom Verlaine.

    You?

    All thoughts welcome….

    cheers,

    s.

  • http://gohah.blogspot.com Gordon Hauptfleisch

    Sadi–more on Smith: this is from Wikipedia, and there are also details in Smoking Gun site

    He died in the Silver Lake neighborhood of Los Angeles, California at age 34, from two stab wounds to the chest [4]. While the death was originally reported as a suicide, the official autopsy report released in late December 2003 left the question open:

    While his history of depression is compatible with suicide, and the location and direction of the stab wound is consistent with self-infliction, several aspects of the circumstances (as are known at this time) are atypical of suicide and raise the possibility of homicide. These include the absence of hesitation wounds, stabbing through clothing, and the presence of small incised wounds on the right arm and left hand (possible defensive wounds). Additionally, the girlfriend’s [Jennifer Chiba’s] reported removal of the knife and subsequent refusal to speak with detectives are all of concern.

    According to the coroner’s report, the alleged suicide note, written on a Post-it, read, “I’m so sorry – love, Elliot. God forgive me.” The misspelling of “Elliott” was later acknowledged as a mistake on the part of the coroner.

    His death has not been officially declared a suicide and the investigation of his death continues.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    wow! That’s all just too distressting. I knew how he died. I thought he took a steak knife of some kind and stuck it through his chest (or someone stuffed it in there for him)… pretty awful. If he was murdered, what is going on with this woman and why isn’t she in jail yet? it sounds like there is plenty of evidence…. though all of it circumstantial. …. an interesting story to follow. i’m a bit Smith fan, or was, whatever… still, justice should be served.

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    I read the actual coroner/police report. The Smoking Gun posted it. I felt very ghoulish but I was looking for some answers, being a pretty avid Smith fan. I didn’t get any.

    I think there are some oddities in the outline of events but the end of the day the things the police and coroner’s office are hung up on suggesting homicide rather than suicide seemed pretty thin to me. Did he take his own life? Was he murdered? I don’t know. To me, there is no credible, definitive answer to the question.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hey DJ:

    I never saw the coroner’s report and like you, am an avid Smith fan. I took it at face value that he committed suicide for a variety of reasons – most of all his very disposition and the nature of his lyrics etc, which all seemed to point in one direction. Sort of like Ian Curtis of Joy Division. You could feel it, or see it, coming and there wasn’t a damn thing you could do about it.

    Whether he was murdered or not at the end of the day, makes little difference in the final outcome. Don’t get me wrong – there ought be justice to be sure, but nothing will ever bring back the talent that he offered up, and that is the saddest part of all. The whole thing reminds me of Nick Drake — another great loss in a similar genre in some ways and another favorite of mine….

    Reminds us how final death is and how it leaves no room for answer or reply.

    s.

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    S, you took the next logical step and I agree with you. At the end of the day it really doesn’t matter whether he left or was taken. He’s gone. It is sad to think of all the great songs he took to the grave with him.

    You’re right, too, that listening to his music and lyrics you just had a feeling he wasn’t going to have a happy ending. In a perverse way that may have added to the attraction because it made the listening experience that much more real. Some artists can write songs of painful emotion yet I get a sense they still have a basically happy or normal life. It’s not that they are being fake per se. They just have a balance in their life of good and bad and joy and sorrow. I never got that sense with Elliott. I always had a feeling that his was a life on the edge and whether a particular song was actually about him or not there was something disquieting.

    I remember the day it happened. I was filled with emotions. Surprise wasn’t one of them and that hurt, too.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    DJ – Yes, i too remember when it happened, and same as you, surprise was not one of hte emotions and yes, that did hurt too. I was fortunate to see Elliott Smith several times, but i always had the sense that he was somehow disappointed in our reaction to him… that it was never enough, no matter how much love there was for him.

    I heard that his next album or one of them was to be called Grand Mal, have you heard anything about that…? If so, that in itself would be very telling. Let me know if you know… i remember hearing something about it on e-bay at the time of his death, but maybe it was a bootleg. Either way, it’s a telling title, because if he was epileptic with TLE as i often suspected, then it would up his suicide rate (that’s just a fact). Doesn’t mean he was “fated” or that anyone else is, only that it would naturally change things and he would be more predisposed to depression, etc etc etc.

    It was all there in his songs…..as he said, and i reiterate from before, “what a fuckin’ joke….”

    nice to know kindred spirit….

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    The power of Google.

    According to this Elliott interview XO was at one point going to called Grand Mal. Interesting.

    I never got to see him perform. I started listening to Elliott only a few months before he died, maybe a year. I had all of his albums and a few import singles before he passed. A co-worker of mine turned me on to him. From what I understand from him and others, Elliott could be an erratic live performer. The inference I drew from the different stories I heard/read is that he was incredibly shy and sometimes it was through chemicals he ‘came out of his shell.’ The trouble with that was it wasn’t always the best parts of him that emerged in addition to whatever the other effects of those chemicals might have been. Add the intense nature of his songs to his shyness and I think the discomfort you saw in him was probably very real. Maybe he didn’t know what to expect from the reactions. It’s hard to imagine people cheering after you’ve sang a harrowing song about addiction demons or memories of childhood abuse.

    I am envious of you having gotten to see him.

  • zingzing

    sadi–“third/sister lovers” is the last big star album, made in 1974, but never really finished. it was released “as is” in 1978, and has been released in several different versions since. in the early 90’s sometime, rykodisc released a version which contains most everything recorded during the sessions and has a decent running order. that’s the version to get.

    “third” is a pop masterpiece. it’s dark and it’s difficult at times (“holocaust”/”kanga roo”) but it’s also got some power pop along the lines of their first two albums. the production (by jim dickinson) is awe-inspiring. the distance that alex chilton travelled from “radio city” to “third” is about the same that he travelled from “#1 record” to “radio city.” it’s sloppier, darker, more ambitious.

    i think i like “radio city” about as much as i do “third,” but it’s pretty damn obvious to me that “third” is big star’s major statement. it’s on a level with “revolver” or “pet sounds” (more like “smile” in many ways). search it out.

    if you like the sloppiness of “third,” go check out alex chilton’s solo “like flies on sherbert,” which is just ridiculous. i love it.

    the american john cale? hrm. depends on if you mean vu john cale or solo john cale, and then it depends on whether you mean angry solo john cale or happy solo john cale. let’s assume you mean vu john cale, and then, i’d have to say that lee ranaldo or jim o’rourke or john zorn are interesting parallels. not sure if i spelled that right.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    DJ – I mention Grand Mal because i always had a theory that Elliott was epileptic with TLE (the same kind i have). He had so many of hte symptoms that it made sense to me and so the title, Grand Mal,, would make sense as well.

    Too bad you listened to him so late in the time — but at least you found him.

    Live, he was amazing. I saw him in small venues (the best always) and he ended several times with “Thirteen” by Big Star and also “Give Me Love, Give Me Peace On Earth” by George Harrison…. it was pretty amazing to hear him sing these songs that half of the audience were too young to know. It made me kinda sad, just as i’m sure it made him. And yes, it is weird that people would cheer for child abuse and addiction, but at the same time,one wants to cheer his gumption and elan for having the nerve to sing about it at all…. That’s pretty damn brave… To my mind, he likely committed suicide, but who knows…Just my opinion. Either way, i’m glad to meet you and know there’s another die-hard Elliott fan out there…

    Zing Zing — heya! Must get the latest Big Star album then, because i don’t have that, and maybe i can download some stuff from it…. I also adore Alex Chilton (duh) and The Replacements (there’s a line drawn there, but i’m not sure how….but there is…)

    John Cale – i’m into solo John Cale and also VU John Cale, so both. Right now (and this changes) i’m into solo John Cale (Paris 1919 stuff, which i think is great, esp. back to back with Nick Drake on a CD that you burn is an amazing combo)…. John Zorn… Interesting choice… I don’t see the Lou Reed thing, though I know the VU connection, but i still can’t see him as the American John Cale. I’m still into the Tom Verlain school of thought and think he’s the American version of John Cale, though admittedly they come from totally diffeent schools of music, they for some reason remind me of each other in some bizarre way….

    So nice to talk music w/ two knowledgable and thoughtful people….

    rock on — s.

  • zingzing

    nononono sadi, it’s not that new peice of crap. icky.

    go to http://www.allmusic.com, search for “big star,” click on “discography” and “third/sister lovers.” or go to amazon and look it up. don’t want to get the wrong one…

  • zingzing

    oh, let me draw you a line. replacements did an album called “pleased to meet me,” produced by jim dickinson (producer of “third” and “like flies…”), with a song called “alex chilton” on it, which mentions both alex and big star by name. it’s a song about loving big star. which is a great reason to write a great song. alex chilton also played guitars on “can’t hardly wait,” which sounds just like a big star song (and is just as good as “september gurls”). “pleased to meet me” is the best big star album of the 80’s, a decade when lots of people tried to be big star.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Zing Zing – thanks for Big Star album.

    I know the song Alex Chilton well – i’m a huge replacements fan as well. Right now listening to Waitress in the Sky (even tho mother is a flight attendant, she’d have my arse…)…. Thanks for the info. though. Turned out i knew it… smarter than i thought… :)

  • zingzing

    hope you enjoy that album. it’s an album that’s out of time. doesn’t fit into the 70’s at all. like all their stuff, it sounds like it could come from the 60’s, but not really. it could come from the 80’s, but that wouldn’t sound right either. it seems to come out of nowhere. if someone had no clue, they probably would assume it was brand new.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    i agree with you – there stuff seems to come from no time period… it could fit into the now or the then, which is the great thing about Big Star. I’ll probably just order the album from Amazon if it’s that good…. I also need to order Evan Dando (i’ve been downloading and can’t get everything) and also Neutral Milk Hotel, which i’m just now getting into….

    do you know them?

    (it’s getting time for a new List of the Moment….)

  • zingzing

    in an aeroplane over the sea, yeah? interesting album, although i rarely listen to it anymore. it is comparable to big star in many ways. very pop, yet quite personal. it’s a strange mix: to want, and attempt to attain, popular understanding of some very private musings.

    evan dando was that guy from the lemonheads, right? never really listened to them much.

    right now, i’m only really listening to a couple of bands: excepter (nyc improv noise group, mostly using electronics… yet still coming off quite human and warm, even if they are mysterious and difficult) and the clash (who are the clash).

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    The Clash – Joe Strummer and John Mellor (founder), British punk rock band… met with Mick Jones (London, SS & Big Audio Dynamite – great group) .

    Strummer agreed to join just as the group was breaking up, but he decided to stick around and formed a new band with Jones, bassist Paul Simonon, drummer Terry Chimes and guitarist Keith Levene. The band was named The Clash by Simonon and made their debut on August 29, 1976, opening for The Sex Pistols in Sheffield, England.

    You can find out more online, if the spirit moves you. The album that was debut, i believe was London Calling. You could download some music to get a taste… very early punk and moved by The Sex Pistols.

    Evan Dando – not sure if he was part of the Lemonheads or not. Could be… anyone know? I just know him as himself and love him on his own…

    hope this helps clarify some….:)

    s.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Sorry, missed the part about In An Aeroplane over the Sea — which i love. Big Neutral Milk fan, but also for personal reasons, which i can’t really write about here… long story… nice to know i’m not the only fan. i’m sure there are many others, i just never hear about them….
    Also very into Moby just now… esp New Cool Hive and Extreme Ways (though i love all of 18) Also, Enigma “Memory Bliss”, w/ PM Dawn, which is an amazing version that starts with Gregorian Chants, goes into French talking, then into the Memory Bliss song…. rare, hard to find, but well worth the trouble…

    s.

  • zingzing

    oh, i know who the clash are. the debut was self-titled. london calling was their third album. it’s my least favorite of the three i have. the self-titled is just the best straight up punk album from ’77, and sandanista is amazing. london calling is… kind of dull. it’s almost too perfect. the later parts of it sound more like bruce springsteen than the clash (i love the boss, but not when the clash sound like him). i don’t have their second album, but i know that the guy who produced blue oyster cult produced it, and that puts it at the bottom of my clash to-get list.

    interstingly enough, keith levine was booted from the band (for doing too many drugs, i guess,) and later popped up in public image, ltd, johnny rotten’s group after the sex pistols. i’d say levine is the most interesting post-punk guitarist, and there are shitloads of interesting post-punk guitarists.

    ha! enigma… i got the urge to listen to their big hit recently. my roommate has it on his computer… 13 minutes of heavy breathing and silly chants. glorious. although i think it will be another 10 years before i listen to it again.

    i haven’t listened to moby in years either. i think i own only one album by him anymore… and i think it is called everything is wrong. decent album. i think 18 is a little over-reliant on the samples, but i haven’t listened to it with an open mind in years.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Blue Oyster Cult – Don’t Fear the Reaper?

    Ever hear Elliott Smith’s version of that (we’re back to Elliott and have come full circle)…

    Don’t Fear the Reaper is one of my favorite songs of all time… amazing song.

    Yes, agree with what you say about the Clash… Do you like Big Audio Dynamite?

  • zingzing

    i’ve got a bit of b.a.d. on tape. maybe two albums. they are interesting, but i rarely listen to it. maybe i will look around for it tonight, pop it in. sounds like fun.

    i like don’t fear the reaper… actually, i like every song i’ve ever heard by blue oyster cult. i don’t think they are great songs… but i like them. i’m a shithead that way.

    never heard smith’s version… but i am imagining it right now. hrm. sounds good.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Smith’s version is amazing.

    Big Audio Dynamite are amazing, esp. Medicine Show, which i love. Also, like XTC…

  • [MR]Chip

    Jacques Brel M*****F******s!

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    jacques Brel is great… did someone say he wasn’t?

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    I bought London Calling last night for another project I have in the works. I have listened all the way through it and it is every bit as great as legend suggests.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    hey, do think either me or sadi would have steered you wrong? (ok….maybe i would have…)

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    No, I don’t think either of you would have steered me wrong. You’re a Springsteen guy and she’s an Elliott fan (even got to see him live!!) as well as being more Dylan knowledgable than I will likely ever be.

    Funny thing is, I like LC better than any of the ‘more famous’ US singles like “Rock the Casbah” or “Should I Stay or Should I Go.”

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    yea, London Calling is a different thing from Combat Rock, most of which i like better than the Casbah single.

    Sandinista is great too…even though it’s a great big sprawling mess of a record.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    heya DJ and Mark:

    Right, i would never steer you wrong, and i did see Elliott live, lucky me, but i go to a lot of shows, so it was the luck of thd draw. I only go to shows at small venues though (though i admit, i did go to see Kiss at a large venue 0 who could resist the camp factor? An amazing show to boot. I was standing on my chair screaming “i was made for loving you baby” — with some, uh, help…. you get the drift. Was pretty damn coo. Also followed the Butthole Surfers around the country for a while (which was great fun) and saw some terrifc bands. Ah, the good ole days…. glad you got London Calling… nice choice…

    cheers and rock on… :)

    s.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    i got to see The Clash live…Combat Rock tour.

    do i get points for that?

    ;-)

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Sandanista i don’t know as well as the others. These days, i’m really into PUblic Image (PIL) and The jam… go figure. Kicking up the traces of my youth (laughs)… it’s time for me to post the new list of the moment. Better get on it today since it’s weekly….

    s.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    dang, the only PIL i have is “Album”. never got the metal box thing which i’m told is the one to have.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    of course! the Clash are always good, for the most part. My one regret is that i never saw The Minutemen… that is a real bummer… I did, howver, see Paul Weller a bunch of times…

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    That’s a cool feature. Did you ever see the cover for the Spiritualized album (the group is Spiritualized”=) one wiht the song, “Ladies and Gentlemen we rae floating in space”) Amazing cover art – done like it’s medicine or something… pretty damn cool…

  • http://gohah.blogspot.com Gordon Hauptfleisch

    saw the Clash live, too, for those points–also the Combat Rock tour–opening by Englsih Beat.