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Okay, so I’ll get the Dylan out of the way and start with two Dylan songs that perhaps you don’t know and then we can move on to other stuff that perhaps you don’t know, or if you do, you have some thoughts on it. Here, is the List of the Moment, Volume 6. I warn you, there are themes here and two artists are mentioned twice, but hey, they’re on the list and we must be honest, if nothing else, for what would we be if not honest here… s.r.p.

“It’s All Over Now Baby Blue” by Bob Dylan – Seems appropriate to the moment, especially if you have the live bootleg version in which he talks about “modern-day Goliaths.” The lyrics bear out the message and the mournful tune of the song seems to bear out a warning to us.

The carpet too is moving under you…
but it’s all over now, baby blue

Whether or not the song was intended as a political piece or not, Dylan would likely deny it and he ought to know, the song still rings with the political and from Dylan’s preface at this one show, it would seem to bear out what he says originally.

All that said… – I have it on good authority that the song is primarily about, on the surface, a break up, and more than that, about the end of a phase of Dylan’s own life, both of which make good sense. And, more, Dylan is notoriously apolitical and the lyrics also bear out what my sources tell me – that this is about moving from one phase to another. However you interpret, listen and check it out because it’s one of his finest ever. To me, this song is most likely about the end of a phase in Dylan’s life but hey, that’s my own interpretation and I think there are so many interpretations of Dylan’s songs that it’s hard to say which is right or wrong. Personally, I (perhaps foolishly) trust Dylan when he says that this song is not political… but this could be just my own naivte.

“One More Weekend” by Bob Dylan – How can you not love this song? It’s obvious what it’s about, or it is to me anyway, and you’d have to be rather thick to not ‘get it’ but who knows. It could just be my filthy mind. Either way, here is one of Dylan’s best songs (but aren’t they all – I mean, how in god’s name do you choose a favorite Dylan song? I have so many. I can’t choose and I pretty much know them all quite well. Still, this one ranks and if you think Dylan is “just a folk singer” then you need to revise that and listen to some of his other work, especially his more recent work.

Comin’ and goin’ like a rabbit in the wood
I’m happy just to see you darlin’ lookin’ so good
One more weekend… one more weekend with you.

“Why’d Ya Do It” by Marianne Faithful – I put this on for my dear friend who had never heard this song before (a sin in itself). And yes, it’s an embittered and nasty song, but who hasn’t been there? I mean, haven’t we all had that not so great break-up and while some are amicable or end in the final account amicably, they often go through a tough period. But this song is more about infidelity and it sounds like, staying together, which is interesting in itself. Not many can do such a thing, and if she did manage to pull it off, then I’m not sure if I should say “bully for her” or “oh, shit.” Either way, I’ve never heard a revenge song done so well. So if you’re in the midst of an evil break-up and happen to be a woman, then check this one out. It’s on Broken English, I believe, which is a pretty good album.

“Bled White” by Elliott Smith – What a sin that he committed suicide, or the rumor, or investigation, or whatever that it may have been a murder. (I heard this recently and am no longer sure what to believe – it’s thrown me off balance). To my mind, Smith committed suicide, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. I love this song for it’s contradictions in some ways. It starts in an almost uplifting way and then proceeds into a “don’t you dare disturb me… don’t complicate my piece of mind” and “But I’m not fucked not quite…” leaving us to wonder what the song is really about. I think I know, but then I change my mind. Okay, so a theme going here in this week’s list, i admit, two Dylan and two Elliott Smiths — Sorry about that, but they’re on the list!!

“Say Yes” by Elliot Smith – how can you say No when listening to this song? All I want to do is say Yes Yes Yes, to whatever the question may be. Maybe it’s my maternal instinct coming out. Maybe it’s just a love of any man who would so pleadingly and earnestly, or seemingly earnestly, ask the question or plead “Say yes…” – it makes me want to say “yes” as if there is so much more depending on this than what may seem obvious or on the surface and in this way, I want to just say yes because it would offer some kind of sanctuary or salvation – or so it would seem and so it feels to me.

“In a Funny Way” by Mercury Rev – Talk about love and optimism and a bit of confusion, which is what love is, after all, then this song has to be about those things. I can’t decide if it’s about friendship, admiration, love, or what. It seems to be a fair amount about fascination and that to me is fascinating in and of itself. I like that the singer is able to put into words what he finds so fascinating about this woman, and in a way that is so beautiful. The fact that Laurel Canyon used it didn’t hurt because it helped me visualize it more and I actually liked this film. All in all a good group and a good song.

“Kiss Me On The Bus” by The Replacements – Have i put this on the List before? I don’t think so, though it’s a favorite and is on this week’s list. I can’t think of many songs that are so full of such raw sexual desire, so absolutely unhidden, and just totally out there. But then, we are talking about The Replacements, not known for their subtlety. All in all, a great group, who I’ve made no secret of loving (and Alex Chilton and Big Star and Paul Westerberg.)

But this song appeals, as I said, because of it’s raw desire and maybe that’s just how we’ve all felt at some time with someone we do not know – “kiss me, on the bus…” with someone we don’t know. I dunno. I can’t speak for anyone else. I think so many people have felt this way – I’ve heard as much: that people pass in the street and see each other as “potential” so why not then “on the bus?”

If you know how I felt now
you wouldn’t ask so adult now
hurry hurry, here comes my stop…

It may be juvenile but hey, what’s wrong with that. In fact, I see everything right with that.

“We Walk the Same Line” by Everything but the Girl – An uplifting song and one that, during a certain time in my life, I certainly needed to hear. I remember a good friend of mine had been hit by a car, was in a coma, and not recoverable in any way that was going to be (according to our sources) meaningful. And what I remember is going to the hospital almost every day, going to work the next day, being dead tired, getting up and starting all over again. And then I remember my friend, Melissa, who had a key to my place and who had not heard from me, came up to check on me and found me passed out. I was asleep on my bed in my suit with my computer next to me, just out from fatigue. She put this song on the boom box, and it meant the world to me. It meant someone understood as much as they could and sometimes that’s all you need. So if you ask me what that song is about, to me, it’s about someone understanding in ways that are curious and odd yet still understanding regardless. I can think of few things better than that in this life. Everything on this album is worth having and the album is Amplified Heart.

Another curious list, I do know, and perhaps gentler (a kinder gentler list?), but one that is, as ever, honest and heartfelt.

Looking forward to your comments and thoughts.

Thanks for listening.

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About Sadi Ranson-Polizzotti

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    “We Walk the Same Line” is the best Fleetwood Mac song not recorded by Fleetwood Mac. It sounds so Lindsey/Christine to me.

    Naturally you know I love the Elliott inclusions. XO is still my favorite album with Either/Or a close second.

    Nice choices with the Dylan, too.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hey DJ I suppose i have a sentimental attachment to that song (walk the same line) but i can totally see what you’re saying – makes perfect sense to me…

    XO is a truly great album and i would agree, either/or runs a close second. i do like Say Yes a great deal though… a big favorite of mine for some reasons listed above.

    The Dylan songs are two of my faves, esp. “One More Weekend” which i think is just a terrific and fun song… “Baby Blue” is just so much about change in his life, to me is seems, that it had to be noted for so many reasons right now… ya know…

    I love your comment on “Walk the Same Line…”

    Made me laugh… : )

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    Oh, and just in case… I wasn’t putting down “We Walk the Same Line” at all. I love that song and have for awhile in part because it reminds me of Fleetwood Mac. I think Amplified Heart is quite an underrated album.

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    you Elliott Smith people worry me. ;-)

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    Gent bent, Saleski. =)

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    DJ – not at all. was just a funny comment and yes, i agree, Amplifed Heart is one of the best albums about in its genre, i would say…

    Hey Mark === worry you!!! heavens!!! why?? Elliot can be great. We ain’t all gonna go out the way he did… he may at times be a downer but then again, aren’t we all? I rather like E.S. for myriad reasons, but i’m not about to off myself – ya know… was that your worry : )

    s.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    (laughs with DJ, sorry Mark — ; )

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    sadi, that was more a little dig at the dj, who i must say handled it better than usual.

    we have a little history with the Smith argument, which i won’t hijack the thread with.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    that’s okay — i understand… never any worries here ;) this thread always takes an interesting turn and i’ll be curious to see where it goes this week. last week;s was interesting but we’ll see about this week. I put totally different songs on this week… so it all depends on what people are connecting with … and what i’m connecting with on a given week or day…. time to start working on next weeks and to get some rest (really sick w/ nightmare flu… ugh)…. rock on… :)

  • Steve

    Well, Sadi, the only thing I can connect with on your list is Everything But The Girl.
    I have a ‘best of’ of theirs called “When The Deserts Miss The Rain” (2002) which has some great tunes on it, like their worldwide hit “Missing” (which this album is named after part of the lyric for this song) and “Wrong”, among others.
    Do you have the 1994 original, more acoustic version of “Amplified Heart” or the later remixed version??
    I prefer their later, dancier stuff to their earlier folksy jazz stuff, though they did do a good version of “I Don’t Want To Talk About It” from 1988, which is perhaps most famously done by Rod Stewart (1975).

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    Steve, I have the original version of Amplified Heart and it has a bonus remix of “Missing.”

    I really liked the following album, Walking Wounded and in fact might like it slightly more than Amplified Heart. Those two albums are very much favorites of mine. Temperamental has one song I love, but the rest of the album is more middling for me.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Hey both Steven and DJ – Walking Wounded is an excellent album and one that should still get play; i was just listening to this the other day…. It is also my fave over Amplified Heart – tho i do like both for different reasons….

    Rod Stewart – Steve – you bring back some memories, wow… i actually (blushes) went to see Rod Stewart ages ago; it was pretty amazing. We made these t-shirts that said “Rod is God” and wore them around. People wanted to buy them but we only made like five of them for our group so we couldn’t….

    was pretty funny… funny you should bring him up.

    I think you’ll like next week’s list more. This week’s list was perhaps even more idiosyncratic than usual and i think next weeks will be a good blend also but will have more cohesiveness; i know this because i’m already compiling it from my playlist so we’ll see… it’s hard to remember what i put on these darn things so i really need to start a list of the list kinda thing so i don’t repeat….

    ugh…

    cheers — s.

  • http://www.djradiohead.com DJRadiohead

    Now you’ve forced me to queue up the EBTG on my iPod.

    “No Difference” from Temperamental is perhaps my favorite song by them ever. I don’t know why.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    lol – that’s alright, now i’m listening to Rollercoaster…. it’s like a disease that is spreading…. — laughs ;)

  • Steve

    Well, Sadi, Rod does claim Scotland as his homeland (though I think he was actually born in London…anyway…his dad was a Scot, I believe), so not surprised you were a fan of his lol.

    My mother had his UK 1975 No. 1 “Sailing” as a vinyl single (remember them? lol). Though I understand folks who don’t like his raspy voice, I guess because I grew up listening to him from such a young age, I can overlook that!

    I have a few of his later albums, as well as his epic “Storyteller” 4 CD box set. He’s had alot of good stuff over the years IMO, though he’s been a bit risque for my tastes at times.

    He’s had quite a few I really love…”Every Beat Of My Heart”, “Broken Arrow”, “Downtown Train”, “Forever Young”, “Young Turks”…oh my, I could go on and on!!!

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Steve OH my God!! We like the same Rod songs!! Downtown Train is great, though of course I prefer Dylan’s original of that one… Young Turks is Great , all of them — Tonight’s The Night is a Classic and I adore “Broken Arrow” and “If We Fall in Love…”

    It’s funny how we can have such ecelectic tastes, i also like Nirvana and Black Flag the Minutemen so go figure… doesn’t make any sense at all but there you have it.

    Have you heard EBTG doing “Downtown Train”? It’s beautiful. Forget which album but someone on here would likely know… it eludes me at the moment…

    Speaking or thinking of odder music that i love love love, i’ve been really into Jane’s Addiction and The Velvet Underground lately – they make the List of the Moment No. 7 for next week to be sure… unless there’s an earthquake or something and i lose my playlist but i imagine both will make my list barring any new songs… just discovered a new “sadi” song… called “sweet sadie” by The Spinners. Am adding it to my Sadi/Sadie/Sarah songlist (since i’m all three depending on who is doing the talking or writing, lol).. Sadi is the nickname so most people call me that, Sarah my given name (pronounced SEHrah) and Sadi often spelled Sadie which is fine too… off on a tangent again….

    if you know any other Sadi/Sarah songs shoot em over. I believe i know most but am keeping a list and burning a disc as a joke for a friend…. :)

    rock on,

    sade

  • http://www.markiscranky.org Mark Saleski

    though of course I prefer Dylan’s original of that one

    Tom Waits.

  • Steve

    Wow, we sure do have some major similarities musically, Sadi!

    I love “Tonight’s the Night” too…
    Now, according to my notes, Downtown Train was originally written and performed by Tom Waits in 1983, when was Dylan’s version??
    I had no idea EBTG had done that song, would love to know which album that was on.

    I must confess, though, I have never liked Nirvana and it was the whole grunge movement that put me off Top 40 music for the first time in the first half of the 90’s frankly.
    Came back to it around the late 90’s, though I’m finding the current hip hop and punk stuff is keeping me at arm’s length from the newer stuff these days.

    Hmmm, Sarah songs…well, these are the only ones I have, some with different spelling lol –
    “Letter To Sarah” by Michael W. Smith – (instrumental)
    “Sara” by Starship,
    “Sara Smile” by Hall & Oates,
    “Welcome To The Room…Sara” by Fleetwood Mac.

    Funny, the only person I can recall with the name Sadie was a fictional character in a book about the troubles in N. Ireland, she was ummm…a Catholic teen and her boyfriend was a Protestant (or maybe vice versa…this goes back to my high school English class days 20 years ago lol). Alas, I have forgotten the name of the book!!

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Steve, – yep, i had a feeling we had some similar musical tastes here – i’m all over the map. i still like Don’t Fear the Reaper and find to be one of the best all time songs but then i can love Travis or Suede etc etc and McSolaar and Charlelie Couture etc etc. so i’m everywhere.

    thx for all the Sadie songs – i can’t keep track of them all but i find it amusing. I like Sarah but most people say SAHra which is differnt , so in this country i’d rather stick with Sadi or best or good friends just call me “sade” – easy enough…

    Tonights the Night is great song and always has been … ah be to young and infatuated again… (*sigh*).

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    Tom Waits? Really? Never heard but will download.. thanks for tip Mark… :)

    cheers

    sade

  • http://www.rodneywelch.blogspot.com/ Rodney Welch

    The Marianne Faithful song is an odd poem. It starts with a male speaker, who seems to be somewhat drunkenly explaining his latest affair to the girlfriend who has caught him out:

    When I stole a twig from our little nest
    And gave it to a bird with nothing in her beak,
    I had my balls and my brains put into a vice
    And twisted around for a whole fucking week.

    Then the girlfriend takes over for almost the length of the song, lashing out at him in language obscene, violent, and darkly funny.

    Why’d ya do it, she said, when you know it makes me sore,
    ‘Cause she had cobwebs up her fanny and I believe in giving to the poor.
    Why’d ya do it, she said, why’d you spit on my snatch ?
    Are we out of love now, is this just a bad patch ?

    We think of that song as a raging, purgative tirade, but actually Faithful keeps her distance, as you notice from all those she saids, and in the last verses she returns to the stance of cool narrator:

    The whole room was swirling,
    Her lips were still curling.

    The woman is worn out; physically exhausted by a rage that has not been completely spent. But who is delivering the brilliant images in the song’s eerie last verse:

    Oh, big grey mother, I love you forever
    With your barbed wire pussy and your good and bad weather.

    Is it the boyfriend? Funny way of making up if it is. Is it the girlfriend, the narrator or both? Have they merged together? And who is this big grey mother she’s addressing? Is it womanhood itself? Mother Nature? Why is she “grey”? There’s something Irish about it, I think — those lines make me think of Yeats and Joyce and the connection between motherhood and the sea.

  • Steve

    Yeah, my tastes are fairly eclectic too, Sadi.
    I have tunes in all the 16 main genres –
    Rock e.g. Marillion
    Pop e.g. Kylie Minogue
    Jazz e.g Glenn Miller
    Blues e.g. Chris Rea
    Country e.g. LeAnn Rimes
    Folk e.g. The Corrs
    Classical e.g. James Galway
    World e.g. Youssou N’Dour
    Hip Hop e.g. PM Dawn
    Dance e.g. Basement Jaxx
    Reggae e.g. UB40
    Soul/R&B e.g. Lionel Richie
    Gospel e.g. Steven Curtis Chapman
    Electronic e.g. Jean Michel Jarre
    Film Music e.g. John Williams
    Easy Listening e.g. Shirley Bassey

    I know SAHra would be a popular pronunciation in England. That would grate on my nerves too lol, sounds kinda ‘posh’ (as they say in the UK), huh?

    Thanks for the tip re. EBTG’s albums, DJ.

  • http://www.morethings.com/log Al Barger

    Ah, “Why’d Ya Do It” That one’s just beautifully brutal, isn’t it?

  • http://gohah.blogspot.com Gordon Hauptfleisch

    okay, here’s my theory about “It’s All Over Now Baby Blue”: Bob Dylan is writing about the also-mentioned Marianne Faithful. Small world? You be the judge: “the carpet too is moving under you” refers to the time she was arrested in a drug bust with the Rolling Stones while wrapped up in a carpet (this was in her “As Tears Go By” days). “And Why’d Ya Do It’s” complete title of course is “Why’d Ya Do It–Why’d Ya Write A Song About Me Dressed Up In Only A Carpet?”

    Just a theory, mind you.

  • Rodney Welch

    I’ve always wondered if all those kiss-off songs weren’t all about Edie Sedgwick.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Why’d ya do it is just beautifully poetic, yes Al… d’accord!!! A tried and true revenge song… so, question to others – is that really a guy speakig throughout ethe song? Where has my head been *don’t answer that please* all these years b/c i never knew that part

    *

    Rodney- you and i are on the same page – I often wondered if that song was about Edie, but Edie was really overfeatured, from what i’ve read, in Dylan’s life… she just wasn’t that big of a deal to him or so i’m told– i always though she was and even thought that Like A Rolling Stone could well be about her, but hey, i’ve been known to be utterly and totally wrong (but i do try to be right, i’ll say that…)

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    Most of the *kiss off * songs in the real “fuck you kiss of sense were, oddly initially about Suze Rotolo (sp?) (the chick on Freewheelin) who was his girlfriend for a while before he became too too famous. He soon dumped her and then eventually people thought and rightly that he ws involved with Joan Baez and then they thought the song was about HER, so you never know… Dylan is always moving, always dodging us, never allowing us to pin him down, He’s like an elusive butterfly you can’t get into your net and pin down… Nabokov would have hated him….

    Most of the revenge songs, to my mind and others, have to do with Sarah, his wife, sa you know, and for some of the really nasty ones he has publicly apologized or let it be known that he is sorry….

    the worst one of all though, was written for Suze Rotolos sister (Iwhom he blamed in part for their breakup) and is called Ballad In Plain D.

    Cheers all for sharing lists and such great comments – more relatable work next week or sooner I’m cruisining on the LIst of the Moment (note, not Lists of the Week but of the Moment so it can be anytime- even a day later. Eyes and ears alert — And, as eve, in the words of Timothy Leary

    “you must turn on, tune in, and drop out.”

    thanks all… see you soon.

    sade

  • Rodney Welch

    “Rolling Stone” just has to be about Edie; it all fits so PERFECTLY. The diplomat who carried on his shoulder a Chinese cat and wasn’t really where it’s at and took from her everything he could steal — how could this NOT be Andy Warhol, who used up Edie and tossed her away, more or less?

    I’d hate to learn Edie isn’t the inspiration. Like they say in the John Ford movie, print the legend, not the truth.

  • Mike

    Another interesting list Sadi.

    Lines before their time in modern music, i think, from Why D’ya do it. Was this the first use of the word cunt to make the album charts, I wonder?

    Why d’ya do it she screamed, after all we’ve said.
    Every time I see your dick, I see her cunt in my bed.

    I hear the song as the man relating the story of his confession to her and then him relating how she replied to him. He also notes her selfish angst that she’s not only pissed off at the physical and emotional betrayal because he let “that trash get a hold of your cock” but that he also let her “get stoned on my hash” A lot of people get writing or composing credits for the track, including Heathcote Williams, so I wonder who did what exactly.

    For me it’s the best song on the album, though I like Lucy Jordan too and her take on Lennon’s Working Class Hero which I like to think (though I’m sure i’m wrong) is in part a slap at Lennon himself for being a guy who keeps a room refrigerated to keep his fur coats in good nick yet still has the chutzpah to write a song like that.

    EBTG have made some wonderful stuff, both together and in their own projects. I love Tracy Thorn’s vocal work with Massive Attack. And to return to what we said on the last list about links between these artists you’ve discussed, Tracy also did backing vocals with Paul Weller on some Style Council stuff. Iused to see her and Ben pushing the kids around Hampstead a while back but I haven’t spotted them in a while.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Rodney – see, you and i are in total agreement about this… but i know so many Dylan fans who are not and have a totally different take on it but yes, the whole thing about Warhol and the diplomat makes perfecet sense to me, but hey, i just follow his music, run a site, read what i can get my hands on, but what do i know , eh? (you and i are right, btw)

    **

    Mark — Maybe it was the first song wtih the word Cunt in it that was banned. Conme to think of it, are there other songs with the wored cunt (besides rap songs) i can’t think of any off the top of my head.. would be curious if you or anyone else can think of any…

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    I can’t get over the Why’d Ya Do It info. I need some time to process this… as i need to recalibrate year of thought, lol…

    *

    EBTG – still great but i know wht you mean. I didn’t realize she worked w/ Weller (who i’e known for a while – christ, i don’t want to date myself) but yes, Weller == amazinng artist…. Style Council were great group . I believe, though am not sure sure sure, that he’s gone solo again…

    rock on….sade

  • Rodney Welch

    The Rickie Lee Jones song “Living it Up” — from the great disc Pirates, circa 1981 or so — makes a reference to someone named “Cunt-finger Louie.” A few years after Faithful, who may have blazed this particular trail.

  • Mike

    The floodgates are truly opened now and the word is no longer taboo, though I’m not sure whether it’s possible to get US airplay with any songs containing it. Over here it doesn’t seem a problem.

    Pete Doherty, (Kate Moss’s recent-ex) now of Babyshambles (and constantly in court for getting nicked with drugds) but formerly of The Libertines sang this lyric

    There’s tears coming out from everywhere
    The city’s hard, the city’s fair
    Get back inside you’ve got nothing on
    No you mind yer bleedin own you two bob cunt

    which recurs throughout The Libertines’ song What a waster Odd link fact time again re former lists of yours. The song was produced by Bernard Butler of Suede, and The Libertines first album was produced by Mick Jones, formerly of BAD.

    John Lydon made sure everyone heard cunt too of course with Pretty Vacant.

  • Rodney Welch

    Good point about “Pretty Vacant.” Also the Police used it in “Rehumanize Yourself” on Ghost in the Machine, also 1981 or 1982.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    ahhh, the things we learn here on Blogcritics.org., lol – but seriously, this is part of our culture and development of language and i fnd that interesting.

    Personally, i never found the word “cunt” a particulary disturbing word. I suppose b/c in the UK it didn’t pack as much of wallop as it seems to in the US, or at least not in my neighborhood – it was not woman-related it was more like just “oh shit i’m having a cunt of a day.” (eds: please pardon language – necessary to make the point)… But you see what i mean, so it’s all context.

    Thanks for the list of songs, btw…Anyone here know where i can find the Fuck You song by Dean and the Weanies? (again, sorry, but it’s the name of the song -) I’ve been searching., (If anyone has it as an MP3 file could you contact me thru my site and i’ll shoot you my email — we can swap music. I desperatey need that song back and can’t find it anywhere…

    sade

    Mick Jones has been everywhere – sheesh… a total music slut! love it.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    The Police? Sir Sting Stang Stung himself? Lord Stingster? which song…

    wow!

    s.

  • johnny

    the story about modern day goliaths was introducing the song “When the Ship Comes in” , not “It’s all over now Baby Blue,” at least that’s the only goliath story i’ve heard. I think the song is political and that Baby Blue refers to the United States. It’s about the country’s loss of innocence, or at least the self-image of virtue and innocence.

  • Rodney Welch

    Huh. Then who’s the lover who just walked out the door and took the blankets from the floor?

  • Mike

    Apparently ou can still get Fuck You on the Mondo NY soundtrack, if you want the whole album. It’s a rarity though so will be expensive.

  • Steve

    Wow, this conversation is going above my head! As far as I know (and I could be wrong as I don’t listen too closely to lyrics) but I don’t know if I have any songs with lyrics that you are talking about (if I do, they must be on my 1 or 2 star list out of 5, probably hip hop baloney). Anyway, all I know is, I don’t have any albums with a parental advisory sticker on them lol.
    Never heard of Dean & the Weenies myself.

    And yes, Sadi, Paul Weller has been solo now for about 15 years or so, very successful career (especially on the album chart), he just won an ‘outstanding contribution to music’ award at The Brits this year. I saw the show actually, it was colorful, but musically not all that groundbreaking, though they sure have a high energy show.

    Re. the Police, I only have their ‘very best of’ album, can’t help you there. Only liked a few Police tunes, felt they were a little overrated.

    Re. the Leary phrase that was mentioned, it reminded me of the 1994 Freak Power tune, “Turn On, Tune In and Cop Out”, which was a pretty funky tune.

    Re. your ‘meaning of lyrics’ controversies, that’s exactly why I gave up paying too much attention to them, they can usually mean alot of things!!

    Re. EBTG, aren’t they overdue for a new album???

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    MikeWow, Mike – thanks – i’ll try to find the Dean and the Weanies song right away – been lookig for that forever…

    next weeks list is looking very good so far…

    cheers and thx for the tip on this and all of yoru info, everyone – truly truly… always an intereting get together. next time, who’s bringing the coffee?

  • Steve

    Well, Sadi, always interesting, looking forward to your next list. If you have any questions, I’ll be back here from time to time over the weekend.

  • zingzing

    if you haven’t heard it, and you are an EBTG fan, you should hear massive attack’s “protection.” whateverhernameis sings it. quite nice. great love song.

    Rock e.g. the fall
    Pop e.g. unicorns
    Jazz e.g masada
    Blues e.g. tommy johnson
    Country e.g. dwight yoakam
    Folk e.g. palace
    Classical e.g. steve reich
    World e.g. soweto
    Hip Hop e.g. eric b and rakim
    Dance e.g. new order
    Reggae e.g. singers & players
    Soul/R&B e.g. prince
    Gospel e.g. blind willie johnson
    Electronic e.g. autechre
    Film Music e.g. dimitri tiomkin
    Easy Listening e.g. 101 string orchestra

    you forgot:
    Avant-Garde e.g. john oswald

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    yes, zing, your point taken…. and in this easier but in other lists not quite so simple to categorize

    thanks for hte tip on EBTG i’ll have to check that out… would be interesting to hear. Will see if it’s downloadable.

    Steve, next week’s list may go up earlier and it may become biweekly only b/c there are just so many good songs that fit…

    thanks for this – your comments always so welcome… cheers – s.

  • Steve

    Yes, zing, re. Protection, I actually have a 4 min 48 sec version on a multi artist compilation and a 7 min 48 sec version on their “When The Deserts Miss The Rain” compilation. It is a good song for sure.
    I also enjoy New Order and Prince, zing.
    I have “Paid In Full” by Eric B as well.
    Re. avant garde, zing, yes I have noticed some music web sites include that category, alas I did not know that as far as music genres are concerned, they have not all been standardised (much to my surprise) and so I took my categories from Billboard, ignorantly thinking that would be all there is to it, but I guess there is more to genres than meets the eye lol.

    A bi-weekly list would be great Sadi!

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    hey Steve I can try and do a biweekly deal and see how it goes… it should be okay so let me try this week or next week and see what happens.. we don’t want it to slip in the charts, lol…

    thing about categories, i find them to be so subjective for the most part; i mean where do you rank or place someone like

    sia or
    Autour de Lucie

    i can think of a thousand groups like this that are poppy, hip, alternative, new wave, semipunk (ie the Minutemen, what the hell are they? What are Husker Du now? I know what they used to be but for the purposes of our categorization here, then it’s tough and i need to include as broad a range as possible to cover everything w.out being absurd….

    ideas? i know what i would do – you need not tell me who is what; for the most part, the most obvious cases are clear, but again, what is Paul Weller? The Style Council, The Jam? Are they all the same? i mean, this could go on and on… and i have no idea how you’d place them or what criterion we are using,w which is part of the problem….

    ya know..
    well anyway… will sort it out…

    s.

  • Mike

    Yes you really must check out Tracy Thorn from EBTG doing wonderful vocals on Protection and Better Things on Massive Attack’s second album “Protection” and if you’re a dub fan check out the dub remixes of those tracks on the Massive Attack v Mad Professor album. All of Massive Attack’s albums are worth a listen, especially (imo) the first three Blue Lines, Protection, and Mezzanine.

    They have had some top vocalists guesting with them, Shara Nelson on the first album, Tracy Thorn on the second, Liz Fraser (of the Cocteau Twins) on the third. Tricky was also in the line-up for the first album before he went off to do his own darker but not dissimilar things.

    Massive Attack are about the coolest thing to come out of Bristol in about 50 years, lots of different people nod to them as an influence. To paraphrase your Leary put them on the stereo and “skin up, light up, listen up, mellow out”

  • Mike

    Protection downloads. The site doesn’t work in the UK but should work in the US.

  • Steve

    Thanks for the tips re. Massive Attack, Mike. If you are really into them, Mike, you might want to check out their version of “Nature Boy” with David Bowie on vocals, which is featured on the “Moulin Rouge” soundtrack from 2001. Pretty trippy stuff.

    Re. genres, Sadi, the problem I have with this topic is, you need to be able to read music in order to understand the Billboard system of doing genres, which I don’t know how to do.

    So re. Paul Weller, The Jam, and the Style Council, I can only refer to my Billboard book which says –
    The Jam = British Punk under Rock, also Mod, New Wave under Pop.
    Style Council = New Wave under Pop
    Paul Weller = 90’s singer-songwriter, Britpop under Pop, also Alternative-Indie Rock under of course Rock.

    Re. Husker Du –
    US Underground & Garage Rock, American Punk, both under Rock of course (bear in mind, this book was published in 2003, that may not be demonstrative of their sound on their newest albums).

    Though I have 12,000 songs in my collection, if you added up songs according to genre, the total number is larger (approx. 19,000) because many artists fit into more than one genre, so some songs count more than once.

    Alas, I’ve never heard of Sia or Auteur De Lucie, Sadi, so can’t help you there.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    Massive Attack sounds amazing – so far, i know all of the lead singers that you’ve listed, or that they’ve had (one at time, right or wrong?) regardless, i’m going to hve tro check this out because they sound amazing…

    thx for the tip – and thx for teh link

    also

    why aer all these comments coming out in bold or has that stopped now?

    hmmmm curious… because they’re sooo important — lol…

    will chekc out massive attack…. :)

  • Steve

    Mike, Liz Fraser was also on the first two “Lord Of The Rings” soundtracks with one song on each.

    I also have a solo Shara Nelson tune from 1994 called “Uptight”.

    Not sure why our font is bold now, Sadi. Good question lol!

  • Mike

    Steve, never saw LOTR, the books defeated me half way through the second one. I’ll look out for the soundtrack songs from Liz. I know the track with Bowie. I saw the video in a shop for £3 the other day but I passed on it. I wish I hadn’t now.

    Another nice piece of theirs is their remix of the late great qawwali singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan’s song Musst Musst. Unlike some of the people who’ve remixed Khan’s stuff they added to it rather than made a mess of it.

  • Steve

    Well, Mike, you did better with the books than I did, didn’t get past page 20 of book 1 lol. However, I did see all three movies and they were pretty well done IMO. Easier to let the actors pronounce all the names than try to read them yourself lol.

    Re. Nature Boy, the soundtrack had two different tracks, one with Bowie singing it with Massive Attack and one without, which I thought was unusual, the one without was more orchestral, the one with them was full of moody synths. I think it’s a great soundtrack anyway, fantastic production values, though some songs are better than others. The duets with McGregor & Kidman are the best, amazingly, both being actors by profession…if you like ballads at least.

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    All List of the Moment Volume 8 is up

  • Steve

    Sadi, could you link your new list, can’t seem to find it anywhere!
    Thanks,
    Steve

  • Steve

    If anyone is interested in finding out what popular British artists from the 1980’s are doing now, try this site –

    http://www.remembertheeighties.com/index2.html

  • http://www.tantmieux.squarespace.com sadi ranson-polizzotti

    i’m interested… sounds good to me…..

    go check out List of the MOment number 8 (filed wrongly under Culture, i think, mea culpa, unless it’s not up yet…. but hopefully the ed. will catch that error (mea culpa again) and then you can check out the new list…

    i aim to please…

    s.