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Just the other day, I received a phone call from the Dove D-O-V-E Foundation. That’s the way the caller announced himself. “Hi. I’m calling from the Dove D-O-V-E foundation. May I speak with the lady of the house?” After confirming that he was not calling to sell something or steal my identity, I refused to identify myself as the lady of anything. He finally got to the point: Do I think television programming is a problem? Do I agree it is an even larger problem that parents can’t do anything about it? I agreed that television programming is embarrassingly pathetic, but I most certainly did not think that parents are powerless to do anything about it. After all, it’s their choice to have television in their homes and to subscribe to cable, or satellite, or whatever. For example, I don’t like TV, so I don’t have TV in my home. How simple is that? It’s a choice…and just as I paused for a quick breath, he thanked me and hung up.

I wish he wouldn’t have done that.

Of course, as an advocate of quantum theory, I know that all possible realities exist simultaneously, each in it’s own dimension.

This pleases me.

And not because I just made it up. It pleases me because it means that our conversation did indeed continue in an alternate reality. In fact, in an unseen parallel dimension, the Dove D-O-V-E Foundation is even interested in diverse opinions.

No doubt, there is even a dimension in which I called the Dove Foundation to share my diverse opinion, and, rather than them shut me down, I shut them up. It went something like this:

Tammy: Hey. Is this the Dove Foundation? As in lovey-dovey lovey-dovey all the tiiiiiiime……ooooh baby……gonna show you a good time…..

Dove:

Tammy: I see from the Dove Foundation website that you review movies and videos according to Judeo-Christian family values. What exactly are Judeo-Christian family values?

Dove:

Tammy: That’s what I thought. The interpretation of the Bible and its translation into family values is really quite relative, isn’t it? Wouldn’t you agree that it depends on who’s doing the interpreting and translating? I mean, I look at the Bible and see a whole lot of begetting interspersed with a few crucifixions, some betrayal, and a significant amount of murder and adultery. Since the Bible is a family book, doesn’t everything in it represent a Judeo-Christian family value?

Dove:

Tammy: Why the focus on Judeo-Christian families? Are Jews and Christians the most in need of your guidance, or the most gullible? Why does the Dove Foundation discriminate against Muslim, Sikh, Sufi, Shinto, Buddhist, Taoist, Confucian, Hindu, Krishna, Baha’i, Animistic, and Atheist families? Couldn’t they also benefit from the Dove Foundation telling them what to think?

Dove:

Tammy: Your mission statement says that the Dove Foundation hopes to “encourage and promote the creation, production and distribution of wholesome family entertainment.” Again, what exactly constitutes “wholesome family entertainment,” and who decides what it is? What exactly are the guidelines for review and approval?

Dove:

Tammy: You asked me about television programming. Does the Dove Foundation plan to start rating television programs, too?

Dove:

Tammy: Aren’t there some studies that suggest a link between children who watch TV and those who are diagnosed with ADD? Television viewing and obesity? And violence? Television viewing and the reinforcement of gender and racial stereotypes? If you really cared about families, wouldn’t it make sense to encourage families to not watch TV, regardless of whether it’s television programming or videos? Shouldn’t children be playing, or reading, or something, rather than staring zombie-like at the stupid box?

Dove:

Tammy: Dove, it seems you don’t really care that much about families. Disappointing. And fascinating. What is it you’re really doing, if not protecting the family?

Dove:

Tammy: Surely you must realize that your censorship of films, videos, and soon television, is not really going to change anything. When Tipper Gore and her cronies forced music CDs to be labeled, music went underground on the internet. Kids can now get any song they want for free and without parental interference. Thanks, Tipper! When Bill Maher became too politically incorrect for network television, he moved to HBO where he is more politically incorrect than ever – and commercial free! Even the notorious Howard Stern cannot be stopped by the FCC and has been picked up by satellite radio, an increasingly popular alternative to the FCC-monitored traditional radio station.

Dove:

Tammy: People will always pursue freedom of speech and creative expression. Institutions like you just help it happen better, faster, and without commercials. Thanks, Dove, and buh-bye.

Ed: RJ

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  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    Tammy: Is entertaining.

    thanks for the smiles.
    T-E-M-P-L-E

  • Carrie

    I also received a telephone call from the DOVE FOUNDATION. I agreed to take their survey, and as soon as I disagreed with their position, I heard a “CLICK”.

    I went to their website, their survey results boast an amazing 93% of those polled agree with them. How incredible is that? I wonder if they have numbers like that BECAUSE THEY HANG UP ON THE PEOPLE WHO DON’T AGREE WITH THEM!

    The DOVE FOUNDATION is such a rediculous waste of time and energy, someone should really tell these people that their televisions come with an off switch. Perhaps instead of wasting time with rude phone calls, these people could read their children a book. Just a thought.

  • http://www.TammySerata.com Tammy Serata

    Thanks, Temple. Glad you enjoyed the article.

    Carrie, you have a point about their stats! That’s very funny – and pretty pathetic. I really do think the Dove Foundation has an alternative reason for existing, a point to which I alluded. I wonder if Dove is just another tedious front for the religious right. Maybe they’re aiming for the folks who aren’t quite religious enough to feel a part of the far right, but who will buy in when it looks like it’s to save their kids.

  • Brett

    I received the Dove Foundation call too. It seems to be an automated but relatively convincing bot. If you ask it if it is a real person, it will giggle and say “Do I sound that bad?”

  • http://www.untulis.org/blog Jason Untulis

    Another vote for bot. And not a good one. I said I didn’t have children earlier in the call. Later the bot asked for my name. When I said I didn’t want to give them my name, it asked the ages of my children. When i asked it this was recorded, it said it was with a live operator, but it wasn’t convincing.

  • http://www.HalcyonScribe.net Tammy Serata

    It’s possible that it was a bot. I really don’t know, so I can’t comment on it.

  • anon

    I thought it was a bot too. I got angry and hung up when it started to tell me “TV is controlled by Hollywood and their values are not family values.”
    News flash: people in the entertainment industry are not actually grown from pods; they’re pretty much like anyone else.

  • anon7

    Did you ever stop to seriously consider that YOU are the one who really wants to tell people what to think? (And just DID.)

  • http://www.TammySerata.com Tammy Serata

    I wouldn’t say that I am trying to tell people what to think. Sometimes I write to express what I think, other times to entertain or provoke thought. I’m pretty up front with what I’m doing, though, and do not wrap my ideas in the cloak of moral superiority in order to sell them. In addition, I’m not forcing my thoughts on you or any reader by phoning or emailing them into your home.

    Thanks for your comments.

  • Lady of the House

    I just received a call from the Dove Foundation this weekend, just as I was trying to “get amorous” with my husband. I answered the phone because we were expecting company later in the day. I alos agreed that the quality of television and films is extremely poor in general. When I was asked if I was concerned about my “children and grandchildren” I revealed that I dion’t have any children. The caller stumbled. no Children?! Surely I mjst be concerend about SOME children, somewhere. I assured her I was. Although I do not have children, I am fully aware that they exist, and yes, I like them. But when she began to invoke phrases such as “family values” I began to get suspicious. I stopped her mid sentence and said, “I’ve got a family values issue right now. I am trying to have sex with my huisband, so I am hanging up now.”

  • Bret

    I also receaved a call from DOVE that went something like this,
    Dove: Is this Bret?
    Me: Yes what can I do for you?
    Dove: (sudenly realizing that Bret is a male) Well is the lady of the house in?
    Me: No she is not, what can I do for you?
    Dove: Nothing this is a not for profit goodbye.
    Me: wait who is this?
    Dove: this is DOVE D-O-V-E and we are a not for profit group.
    Me: And what is this call pertaining to?
    Dove: We’ll try back later. (click)

    So, after I had to Google DOVE to see who they are, I can only conclude that DOVE thinks Mothers are the only ones capable of understanding their vision of “family Values” what ever that may be. She was wise to hang up on me. Teresa and I can’t wait for their next call.

  • Sun-one

    ER, How Interesting…..Seeing as how I received a phone call tonight while I was making dinner and DIDNT wish to be BOTHERED, by the Dove Foundation.
    WOW, they didnt give out their name until I was Livid and asked. Seeing as how my husband and I are on a DO NOT CALL LIST, which I mentioned, I was told that since they ARE NOT FOR PROFIT, that they WOULD and COULD CONTINUE to CALL ME. Newsflash……NOT QUITE. The world doesnt work like that actually, and I know it for a FACT.
    Oh, I was also told that the Dove Foundation had gotten my info from a source close to myself…..UNHUH, that one I will find out for sure seeing as how NO ONE upon me calling back could nor would answer that Question. I was told that my Attorney would have to find that one out. Sound like a SCAM??????? Yup a huge one. BTW, Please go and check the Dove reputaion online seeing as how they made over half a Million this year…..WOW their employees are paid mighty well from all of that not for profit$$$$
    UM as far as myself, I am married and I have NO Children, and I am NOT a Grandparent…..So, WHY CALL ME???????????
    I didnt let the conversation go that far, I had to find that out upon reading all about this ER Not for Profit company.
    I will definately be taking this up further with several sources!
    People on a Do not call list are on it for a reason…..They dont wish to have places like That contact them.

  • Elvira Flagg

    I just got the same call and became furious with the assumptions the caller was making, but then she hung up on me too. What a rude group! I’d like them to stop the b-s-.

  • Dove Investigator

    I am writing this for the benefit of anyone in Law Enforcment looking to take down Dove Foundation of Grand Rapids, MI and Feature Films For Families, Inc. of Murray, Utah, and for those consumers who are trying to figure out why these phone calls from the Dove Foundation just don’t “smell right.” Speciically, those robotic phone calls that seem to have started in November, 2005.

    I turned in the Dove Foundation to the Michigan Attorney General’s office for calling me after I told them to stop. The reply from Dove’s lawyer was from one of at least four lawyers that are locatd at 5282 South Commerce Drive, Suite D-292, Murray, Utah 84107. I found four lawyers listed with this address on the Utah Bar Association’s web site. They are Melvin S. Martin, Matthew G. Cooper, Russell C. Harris, and Edward T. Wells. Utah? For a Michigan non profit organization? Well, if you go into an online phone directory, Feature Films for Families is listed at 5286 Commerce Drive, Murray, Utah 84107. This is the same Feature Films for Families that is mentioned in the Missouri Attorney General’s press release of March 27th, 2006. ago.mo.gov.

    Why Missouri? Well, there is another Dove Foundation in Missouri, DOVEMIDWEST dot ORG. I would not be surprised if the fine people in St. Charles, MO complained to their AG. Even the people in Missouri must have found those robotic calls from Michigan-based Dove Foundation obnoxious.

    The Missouri AG asserts there is a connection between Dove Foundation of Grand Rapids, MI and Feature Films For Families of Murray, Utah. Feature Films For Families is a for-profit operation. Claiming FFF can telemarket in violation of the Do Not Call law because of their “agreement” with the Dove Foundation does not pass the “ha-ha” test. Now law enforcement just has to establish who owns the call center employed, who owns the “Rob” robot, etc. to see if they can get a conviction.

  • Chuck

    Same phone call.

    I thought I was being clever by telling them that I did not believe we were powerless to control what our children watched. Shortly after that they politely said good bye and hung up.

    I had the same thoughts about statistics and hit their website. Oddly they recommended X-men as family approved. Perhaps their not as one sided as I thought when talking to their rep

  • Z

    Glad to read your article–and know from all the comments that I am not the only one who got this call and was infuriated by it. I was enjoying a relaxing lunch break when I revied their call. It so riled me up that it put me off my turkey sandwich. After fuming a few minutes, I had the idea that I would call THEM back and let them know how deplorable they are–and some other choice bits I thought of after I hung up. Well, when I called the number that had shown up on my caller ID it just rang and rang. Turns out THEY don’t answer THEIR phone. One question remains: How do you get a robot to sound that SELF-RIGHTEOUS???

  • http://www.TammySerata.com Tammy Serata

    WOW to all the amazing comments. The link between Dove and FFF is surprising and I look forward to hearing more about that. I was also surprised by some of Dove’s approved movies. Z – a word of advice: Never let anyone ruin a good turkey sandwich.

    I still think there is more to Dove than Dove. I’d like to know who is supporting this organization.

    I’ve moved recently, have a new phone number, and am waiting patiently – armed and ready – for my next call. Stay tuned.

  • Introoder

    It IS a bot. “Camy” called wanting to speak with my 4-years-ago deceased mother who never lived at my phone number.

    Me: Is this a computer?
    Dove: Do I sound that bad?
    Me: Yes you sure do.
    Dove:No, but I’m working with a computer.
    Me: Where do you live?
    Dove: D-O-V-E
    Me: Do you live on the streets? Does Dove employ street people?
    Dove: yes
    Me: Are you a hooker?
    Dove: yes
    Me: dove employs prostitutes?!?!
    Dove: yes yes yes yes…

    So, either Dove lies, or they really do employ prostitutes.

  • Introoder

    Check them out on give.org. They don’t meet the BBB’s standards for a non-profit.

  • linda

    I’d like to know how they got my #. Its unlisted. I find it objectionable that they think they have the right to contact me (frankly I think they got # from dish family!

  • http://www.mightyvinyl.com Mikel in Seattle

    These weasels called me and it was hard to get a word in edgewise with them. Although they ostensibly called me to “get my opinion” it was pretty hard to get them to listen to anything I had to say. I was particularly pissed since they called me on my cell phone, and I insisted they remove me from their list – the repeatedly said that they were NOT soliciting but I believe that is their real intent in these calls as they certainly didn’t give a rat’s butt about my opinion! Is it possible to have them sued for violating the terms of the National Do Not Call Registry? Another poster mentions that they don’t meet the BBB’s standards for a non-profit, that should make it easier.

  • http://www.mightyvinyl.com Mikel in Seattle

    The number they called me from on my caller ID was 1-800-679-0336. I called back and the phone number was answered every time. First time, I told them I was calling from the International Church of Satan and had an informational survey I’d like to go over with them, and upon asking for their name and the names of their children they hung up. I called back a second time and got a recorded message which gave me the option to leave my phone number if I wanted to be removed from their call list. Third time I spoke to an operator and told her I needed information for my attorney as we were going to serve them with a subpoena for violating the National Do Not Call Registry rules. (Obviously I’m not an attorney and only have a tenuous grasp of legal terminology!) She said that D-O-V-E’s Executive Director is Dave Lukens, and he can be reached at 245 S. State Street SE, Suite 104, Grand Rapids MI 49503. I actually thanked her as she was so helpful!

  • CRS

    If you want to call someone up and vent, I suggest the chairman of Dove, whose home phone is listed in the phone book (Dick Rolfe, (616) 681-0578). You can find a whole list of the directors on the financial form on the web site. I called him and he was super polite, but I guess that’s part of his job: The bit about this being a front for getting around do-not-call and doing marketing for FFF is apparently true. (see the Missouri attorney general’s web site for a press release on that.) And so I suppose he’s making enough money on this to make it worth getting these phone calls.

  • J-rod

    hey i worked for feature films for families and we did the survay for the Dove Foundation,and i was one of many who gave the survay. basicliy yes it is an automated voice but there are live employee’s listing to the conversation. we used a computer to talk to you people on a touch screen computer. and how they get your # is simple they just call different combination of #s all over the U.S. and automaticlly your name comes up or whoever lives or has lived there. and the only reason i worked at FFFF and did the survay is because i was makin some good money just to push buttons,the work was easy just put some headphones on and sit down at a touch screen computer,there were 24 set of buttons each button said a different response to your yes or no ?s or comments and if the person who was taking the survay said “how old are you” or “can i talk to a real person?” then the call is transferred to a customer service rep. there station was set up was like a regular computer set up. They had headphones too and on their keyboard every key was a response more varity than a touch screen. they also could go live to talk. yup i hope that answers some questions. and yeah i did all that touch screen/customer service. but yeah i did’nt really support them or Feature Films For Families i just did for the money to party yeah!!!!!!!!! so i laugh at all haha

  • J-rod

    The Dove Fountation and FFFF dont really want to control or censor entertainment they just want people to view there movies and see what you think. and support good family films and there family values are based upon helpnig, careing ect. and NO there not affiliated with any religon or political parties and when they talk about entertainment t.v. and movies they’re just asking if you agree about it getting worse or graphic, so if you say yes they just want to call you back to sell you good films too teach children good things and they have movies for all ages. i own a few of them i dont watch them but i have seen them there quite funny and not that bad. but who cares i dont work for FFFF no more.

    AND IF YOU DONT WANT A CALL BACK JUST SAY “PUT ME ON YOUR DO NOT CALL LIST” OR “IM NOT INTERESTED” OTHERWISE IF YOU JUST HANG UP THEY’LL CALL BACK AGAIN OR IF YOU JUST KEEP IGNORING THE CALL THEY’LL JUST KEEP CALLIN

    ANOTHER THING DONT SAY ” OH SHE/HE DOSENT LIVE HERE AND EXPECT NO MORE CALLS. NO MATTER WHAT THEY’LL KEEP CALLIN CUZ IF YOU SAY “IM NOT INTERESTED” OR “SAY THAT PERSON DIED” OR PLEASE DONT CALL BACK” EVENTUALLY THEY WILL CALL YOU BACK IN 10 TO 15 YEARS. HA HA

  • J-rod

    AND JUST BECAUSE YOUR ON THE DO NOT CALL LIST DOSENT MEAN YOU WONT GET ANY SOLICITING CALLS. DUH FOLKS THE GOVERNMENT GAVE THE DO NOT CALL LIST TO US PEOPLE IS BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT UNWANTED CALLS THEY DID THAT TO SHUT UP THE PEOPLE. THEY GAVE THE DO NOT CALL LIST TO US TO SHUT US UP IT DOSENT WORK SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU’LL GET CALLS DEAL WITH IT. IM ALL FOR AMERICA BUT F*** THE GOVERNMENT SCREW BUSH TOO

  • Dove Investigator

    J-Rod’s comments are interesting because he lets drop the information that the calls were conducted by employees of FFF and not by the Dove Foundation or a third party telemarketing firm. I am really surprised to learn there was a live person listening to the calls. I think there are fully computerized systems today that could do just as well. Just look at some of those telephone directory assistance systems. They get my number for me about 60% of the time. Now, no offense to J-Rod, but if I had a job like that to make money for partying, I wouldn’t put a lot of effort into the job. After all, it was party time from the get-go! If I came in with half a bag on, I might not bother taking people off the their calling list if asked (which is actionable by law.) The description of the call center seems to indicate why Introoder (post of July 17th) had that interesting call with the Dove Foundation.

  • Kathe X

    I received a call this morning at 8:15 am. Yessss! I thought I had been scammed. I researched snopes.com, the fcc website and even called the FCC to find out if people were being scammed. Because, I too, could not get a word in edgewise after I told them my name.

    I emailed them and told them to contact me at work and I had a list of question for them. Including, how did they get my number?; Why did the person not let me ask a questions? (Now I know its a Bot)

    I then googled DOVE foundation and viola…. I say the website w/ the Donate Now! on top.

    Further on the google search I see the Blogcritics link and I find the ‘fortunate’ many who encounter these calls from these bots.

    Interesting how they get our numbers and interesting the people they hire.

    No offense J-rod, but your values were not in line with those of the Dove Foundation or the FFFF. Not that they will never be in line but you just a partying type of guy now and you probably enjoy all types of movies not just family movies.

    Further, at least they paid you a lot of money!!! I wonder if I can get my four year old a job there to push buttons. She is really good at that. How much did you say they paid?

  • Tricia

    THE PHONE RANG, AND MY MOTHER AND I PICKED UP SIMUTANIOUSLY. AFTER A QUICK INTRO,DOVE GOT RIGHT DOWN TO IT. MY ELDERLY MOM REPLIED YES,MOST OF THE SELECTIONS/MOVIES ARE DISTASTEFUL FOR CHILDREN. DOVE(FROM RETURN CALL SERVICE #800-679-0336) PROCEEDED ON, HOWEVER MY MOTHER INTERJECTED, INFORMING THE WOMAN (DOVE) ON THE OTHER END OF THE LINE SHE (MOM) HAS NO CHILDREN/GRANDCHILDREN AND THEREFORE WOULD LIKE TO END THE SURVEY…AND HUNG UP. I ON THE OTHER HAND SPOKE UP ANSWERING DOVES REMAING QUESTION..I TOLD HER KIDS NOW ADAYS HAVE A GREAT SELECTION OF MOVIES TO CHOOSE FROM, I THINK THE RATING SYSTEM IS CLEARLY UNDERSTANDABLE, AND AT HOME ITS UP TO THE PARENT/GUARDIAN TO USE THE SENSORSHIP-BLOCKERS-PASSWORD CONTROLLED FEATURES AS THEY SEE FIT FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. SHE(DOVE) SAID OUT OF HOLLYWOODS LAST NEWLY RELEASED MOVIES TWELVE (12) WERE RATED “R”. I TOLD HER I’M 40YRS. OLD AND TWO OF THE LAST FIVE MOVIES I SAW WERE RATED G AND I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. I THEN REMINDED HER GROWING UP HAVING TO SIT ON THE END OF THE COUCH TO REACH THE CHANNEL CHANGER BECAUSE I AS A KID DIDNT HAVE THE “CLICKER” (REMOTE CONTROL) OR CABLE TV.(NICKELODEON, WALT DISNEY, FAMILY,OR CARTOON CHANNELS) SHE WAS REFERRING TO KIDS NOT HAVING ENOUGH GOOD FAMILY VALUES INTERTAINMENT. GIVE ME A BREAK! THEY HAVE TONS, AND PARENTS NOW HAVE HELP CONTROLLING WHAT THE CHILDREN ARE EXPOSED TO BY USE OF NEW TECHNOLOGY…TV TIMERS, CHANNELS & PROGRAM BLOCKERS. AND ALL THESE AIDS APPLY IN THE SAME WAY TO COMPUTERS TOO. ALLOW THE FAMILY VALUES, BLOCK THE “DISTASTEFUL” DOVE(THE LADY- LISTENING TO MY LAST ANSWER TO HER LAST QUESTION) SAID, “THANK YOU” AND HUNG UP.

  • Hans

    Just back from vacation (camping) so did not get chance to post this earlier: The Missouri AG‘s office got a settlement agreement with Dove And FFFF. The “fine” is $70,000 and, in Missouri at least, they will have to abide by the “Do Not Call” list.

    It would be nice to see how many people in Missouri receive calls from Dove due to “server hacked”, “database corruption”, “DDOS Attacks”, “clerical mistakes”, etc.

    I hope a few Assistant District Attorneys read this blog. Low hanging fruit.

  • Hans

    For those of you who feel there should be a law against these types of robotic phone calls, there is:
    TITLE 47–TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS
    CHAPTER 5–WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION
    SUBCHAPTER II–COMMON CARRIERS
    Part I–Common Carrier Regulation
    Sec. 227. Restrictions on use of telephone equipment

    You can read the code on the GPO‘s website.

    Now this is one of those laws that is just not enforced very strictly. Lord knows the FCC has a huge challenge on their hands just shutting down the pirates on the FM radio band, with their limited funding. I was wondering from the comments above why Dove Foundation or FFFF was using people to make the calls. I now see that if it were fully automated, they would run afoul of this law. So they skirt the issue and cut costs by having an operator handle more than one call at once. But, have you ever tried to carry on a conversation with several persons at the same time?

    Note this law does not talk about for profit versus non profit. It just outlaws what we all know: that this technology is a nuisance. Note the Congressional Statement of Findings at the bottom of the regulation.

  • http://charityreports.give.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=1359 me
  • Me

    I had gotten a call from this company today. Luckily, I was not available to answer it. I attempted to pull the number that had shown on caller I.D [800-679-0336] on anywho.com/reverse look-up, but it not listed.

    I found really interesting information on wikipedia about it,though. If you have not read it yet, it verifies everything [negative] stated above.

  • PO’d

    Dove has been harassing me for weeks now. I have asked them (6 times now)to take me off their call list and not call me anymore. Every other day they call again. Today I threatened them with reporting them to the police for phone harassment. We’ll see if that stops them- I doubt it. A note on the “lady of the house”. When I demanded to speak with a supervisor- 3 times before they let me- I was interrupted with a very rude “Is the MAN of the house there?”. Obviously they do not recognize the fact that a “lady” can make a decision for herself, and felt it necessary to check in with a man before doing anything. The supervisor ended up being a man who barked “Who is this?” and then proceeded to record my instructions not to call again lest they would like to be reported for phone harassment. Seems like a “nonprofit” out to make a profit at the expense of “ladies” who don’t know how to stand up for themselves. Sick.

  • Joni

    I, like many of you, have gotten that call from “Dove..D-O-V-E”. I answered the phone last night only because it keeps showing up on the Caller ID and wanted it to stop. Why are they targeting the “Lady of the House”? I guess we are the main caregivers but get with the times! Anyway, when I said I disagreed with what they said, they kept stumbling and only asking about my Judeo-Christian family values. I said I didn’t know how they could determine I was Christian over the phone but I am an American and I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I also love film, especially independent films and yes, I agree most tv/movies out of the Hollywood cookie cutter are crap. But it is my choice to not to view them. I don’t believe in censorship.
    When I commented I don’t let my children watch more than 1 hour of tv a day because I believe in expanding their minds through reading, playing and in general being kids, they hang up on me. So much for freedom of speech.

  • http://www.TammySerata.com Tammy Serata

    These comments are incredible.

    It is good news to read that there is some positive (meaning anti-Dove) activity from some of the state AG Offices.

    What do you all think this is really about? What possible reason could people have for forming such an organization? I figure their calls must be worthwhile if they are still continuing a year later. Are they getting donations from these calls? It would be interesting to know what they do with their money – other than hire poor J-rod and others like him/her. (Personally, if I had that job to support my partying I’d give up partying and the job, too.) Are they making political donations? Is someone collecting a fat paycheck?

  • Dove Investigator

    What do I think this is really about? A few people in Michigan who are a few bricks short of a load. It reminds me of a guy named Anthony Conrad, who was chairman of the old RCA Corporation in the mid 70’s. He resigned after admitting not filing income tax returns for six years. It came out that RCA took out more witholding that Conrad had to pay in taxes. Before the fines, anyway.

    As Deep Throat said, follow the money. They must be getting an income stream from either lining up customers for Feature Films for Families, getting called persons to donate, or have some rich person giving them money. However, we need an insider to get this information.

    Only one state, Missouri, has so far gone after them (successfully) publicly. I was never able to find out what caused the Missouri AG to go after Dove. I suspect the Do Not Call law just does not get a high priority from most states. And, Utah, where FFFF is located, does not seem to have a reputation for forceful consumer protection. Reports to the Do Not Call complaint centers are no doubt processed by telephone-company type software. These systems rely heavily on statical principles and are notorious for being unable to catch the really difficult problems. By Dove blowing that non-profit smoke, they are helping avoiding prosecution.

    But even if Dove was not doing what the Missouri AG nailed them for, they still call people back even after being ordered not to, and as reports on the whocalled.us website indicate, the call center initiates many calls to people, only to abort them. Thus, these are nuisance calls. I paraphrase a saying I have had for years: to get results, you have to go after the people reading those Do Not Call complaint readouts with a meat cleaver and make them manually analyze how get Dove Foundation to stop making these nuisance calls.

  • Leslie Riggs

    I am fortunate in that I am deaf, so I do not immediately answer calls on our telephone. I have Caller ID, and I do return calls on occasion using a relay service, but folks at the “Dove, D-O-V-E, Foundation” are incredibly obtuse. I have been called numerous times. I never, ever call back. I never, ever pick up the phone when their name and number show up on the Caller ID. I have no interest in encouraging any one group to censor entertainment media. People can make those decisions for themselves. How? They can get up out of their seats and leave the theaters, change the TV channel (Or even turn the thing off! What a concept!), change the radio station, etc. etc. Ordinary people are incredibly powerful all by themselves. Wonder why D-O-V-E folks don’t get it?

  • Hollywood MoD

    My experience this morning was the first I’d heard of this organization. Glad I found this blog to get better informed. The whole stepford wife voice was just plain creepy. When I disagreeed with every point, Cammy did a fast, “well I don’t want to take up anymore of your time”, to which I kept saying (like 5 times), “Who are you with?”, but Cammy just hung up. My husband came out of the bathroom saying, “Who was that?, to which I answered, “The Stepford-wife Christian Society, telling me that they feel Hollywood isn’t making enough good movies for kids!” I live in LA, husband’s in the industry & have kids too. In my opinion there ARE more veiwing choices for children than ever today! Like Tammy, I feel like the technologies available put the power in the hands of the parents, if they choose to use it. Truthfully, most are just too lazy or unwilling to take the responsiblity for themselves. It’s easier to pass the buck to “Hollywood”. I think Tammy’s idea is great! Throw out the TV!

    BTW-when I called back to ask them who they are affiliated with, I got the same creepy voice telling me that they were a non-profit with no other affiliations. Yah-right! So am I the only one who hears the Neo-Con catch-phrase, “Family Values?” I can bet that some of thier funds come from Neo-Con sources, the great distructors of our constitutional rights & advocates for censorship of just about everything-including the internet. Also, remember that “Family Values” means anything that isn’t the Nuclear family is to be snuffed out & regarded as “anti-family”. Homophobics & single mom haters is what they represent!

    I also said that I had been hung up on when asking who the were. The bot told me it was not their intention to hang up on people, but the prissy, patronizing voice said, “The survey is intended for people who have children in the home” I was so outraged! I told “it” I not only have children, but work with children. Just because I don’t agree on their positions, doesn’t mean I have no children!

    Lastly, I told “it” I was on the DoNoCall registry & I wanted to be removed from the list. They said they would remove it. I reported them anyway, after finding out on the BBB that they don’t qualify as a non-profit. If enough of us do, the FCC will have to respond at some point with more fines, which could result in a change.

    On a side note, whoever was listening & responding might just be doing a job, as J-rod says he did, but if your gonna work for someone, you should be aware of your contribution to this farce. You do have some responsibility whether you believe it or not, even if your a party boy.

  • XXODLDSA

    I to work for Feature Films..
    “it” is US.. We moniter the calls. We press the buttons and listen to what you say.. Its not just a “Robot” its a script.. Yes it’s pre recorded.. WHO CARES?!
    Why make a big deal out of that.. ha..
    Just ask for a “live agent” when they call..

  • http://www.mysinglesurvey.com CloudyOne

    Personally i think the lot of you are a bunch of morons.

    Tammy, makes many unfactual “points” by twisting words of the DOVE foundation, all of this based off of ONE call. Good job sherlock.

    A few of you stated that you don’t know how they got your number…did you not read their a “nonprofit” organization? That means they can call WHOEVER they want, and being it’s an automated dialing system, they call EVERY number at random. Which means, they Didn’t get your number from ANYONE.

    Their system, as criticized as it might be, is one of the intelligible systems out there. They can contact over 200,000 homes in a matter of minutes. And fortunately for everyone else, they’ve used that ability for things like warning about hurricanes and Amber alerts.

    Now a little tidbit that might help ease the mind of all you low iq’d nitwits who continue to complain about anything, even a non profit organization has to put you on their do not call list if you ask. So INSTEAD of asking “how’d you get my number” or “do you realize your violating the DNC?” try saying “put me on YOUR DNC”.

    Unless..your one of those retarded “sue happy” americans who use your DNC status as a way to get a quick buck. And if you are one of those people, shame on you.

  • k

    they keep leaving that annoying message on my machine. It looks like the only thing they will understand is the same annoyance. find pcplus or procomm bbs software and set it up to dial their 1 800 number (be sure you have unlimited calling – don’t do it at work) and set it for 1 sec repeat (999 times default). “set it and forget it” while you step out, for each time they call.

  • cold called

    i got called yesterday and guess what the persons name was — tammie or tammy ha

  • http://www.TammySerata.com Tammy Serata

    Okay, I admit it. The article is a farce. I am really an undercover D-O-V-E agent trying to pick your brains. If we can better understand how our enemies resist us, we can do a better job in the future at brainwashing our prey.
    Resistance is futile.
    You WILL be assimilated.

    Signed,
    3349
    (aka Tammy)

  • Garry

    I jsut told the woman on the other end of the line that I hoped her children were gang raped while she was made to watch and that calls like this are the reason planes were flown into the WTC, it’s a national holiday fr christ sakes piss off, how’s that for family values? and hing up in her

  • banana

    i’ve been getting these calls almost every other day for the past few weeks. i’ve just emailed the dove foundation asking them to remove me from their call list and let them know that if i receive another phonecall, i will file official complaints with the Attorney General, FCC, Do Not Call Registry, and in Canada, the CRTC and Phonebusters.

    i urge everyone to contact the company and do the same. each of our actions will add up and make a difference. please take a moment to do this! thanks!

    1) Attorney General of Michigan (Dove is a Michigan organization based in Grand Rapids)

    2) FCC

    3) Do Not Call Registry
    “The National Do Not Call Registry applies to any plan, program, or campaign to sell goods or services through interstate phone calls. This includes telemarketers who solicit consumers, often on behalf of third party sellers.”

    4) CRTC

    5) Phonebusters

  • banana

    update on july 19/07 comment:

    since my email to dove requesting removal from their telemarketing call list, i have not received one call from them!