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The Curious Case of Sarah Palin

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Driving to an appointment on Friday, I caught the tail end of a radio news report.

“It’s going to be difficult to get a transition team going in two weeks. It’s a lot to ask of an incoming governor.”

My ears perked up. Was it our own Michigan’s Governor Jen leaving for greener pastures? (When you live in Michigan, every pasture is greener, even the ones in the desert. Even the ones in Toledo.) Was it the beleaguered South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford? (It’s one thing for a public figure to have an affair but when you rub the words “soul mate” into the marital wound during a press conference, you show little sense and tact and should quit.)

No, it was neither. In a bombshell rivaling those going off overhead on July Fourth, it was Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who decided to step down from her post effective at the end of the month.

Like everything else Governor Palin does, her move set off a nuclear blast of media.

So she’s not going for another term and doesn’t want to waste the taxpayer dollars. So she wants to concentrate on her family. So she claims she is answering a higher calling. So she’s dogged by lawsuits that are draining her finances.

So?

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. What were you thinking?

Although I’m not a Republican and don’t agree with much of her philosophical leanings, I liked her. I read President Obama’s book and liked him too.

Sure she came from a state so far removed from the rest of the United States that most people think of it as backwoods. Sure, she was green, a virtual tenderfoot in the rough-and-tumble world of politics. She was the quintessential anti-politician, which is why many people found her appealing. There are many of us who can barely keep our lunches down when we meet a politician. Most are obviously phony and spew rhetoric while dodging the issues. Say what you want about Sarah Palin, she seemed like a genuine human being first and an accidental politician second. Her anti-politician stance made her few friends in the McCain camp and they were supposedly on the same side.

Let’s face it. She was the energizing fresh face on the side of the right, just as Barack Obama was the fresh face on the side of the left. For all their disagreements, the two candidates had a lot in common. Both had little experience and both were the flavor of the week.

Her ticket lost, and it’s no wonder. Someone should write a book on the insights and backstabbing of the McCain campaign. Everyone expected her to go back to Alaska and continue as governor. There she could gain experience, perhaps a little study, some travel, maybe some writing. Sarah Palin could have used these next two years to lay a more solid platform and develop more credibility than she had eleven months ago.

Platform, my friends, is everything.

And she was doing that, attending conferences, giving speeches, continuing as governor. Of course, she was slammed all along the way. The recent dustup with David Letterman was just the last of the fallout that trailed her no matter what she did.

Then, out of the blue, she quits?

Where’s the pit bull in lipstick? Where’s the no-nonsense woman trying to break through the glass ceiling? She should know that as a woman (a minus) and a Republican (a huge minus) she will have to work harder, better and faster to get any recognition at all. There’s a part of me that sees quitting in the face of adversity (if that’s what this is) as only admitting defeat to your opposition. Unless there’s a super-secret strategy behind this move, I’d have to say it’s risky at best.

Calculated move? Or political suicide?

I’m still trying to figure it out.

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  • Righteous Fury

    A genuine human being? The human beings I know are warm, and have had a few more civics classes than her, to be certain. This woman was not only vacuous, she was snarky as well. She was brought into McCain’s political camp as a foil for Hillary Clinton. Because, when you looked at the Democrats they had a woman and an African American as contenders for the presidency. When you looked at the Republican camp they had a bunch of old white men. How symbolic of how sad they’ve grown (or not grown) as a political party.

  • Clavos

    This woman was not only vacuous, she was snarky as well.

    Was? She’s not dead, much as you obviously would like her to be.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “she seemed like a genuine human being first and an accidental politician second.”

    Then it appears she fooled you.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    How else can you grab attention away from Iran and Michael Jackson? Abruptly resign for no reason.

    Her future? I’m going to say talk radio show, or perhaps U.S. senator. Either way it’ll get people in Washington talking about her again.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    You haven’t seen the last of Sarah Palin, folks. That’s a gut feeling. She is one of the very few American politicians who might actually have an honest willingness to back Israel – even more than her own traitorous regime is willing to back her.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    I was actually thinking a surprise anchor gig with Fox would make some sense for Palin.

    Clearly she realizes that governor of Alaska is not enough of a resume to run for President.

    I’m thinking she might be taking a leaf from the Teddy Roosevelt play manual. Roosevelt went through a series of high-prominence jobs in a relatively short period of time building up his credentials. I doubt that Palin can start a war and then form her own military unit to go fight in it, but a job in the media and then maybe a job heading up a prominent political organization would be a good start.

    How about a show on Fox and then taking over Charlton Heston’s old job as spokesman for the NRA?

    DAve

  • Baronius

    As I’ve written elsewhere on this site, I believe that if her goal is the presidency, this was a bad move. I like her, but I have always considered her to be insufficient in experience. She won’t be any more experienced in 2012 than she is today.

    On the other hand, if she wants to take a few years off to raise her family, then come back and serve in government for a decade or so then run for the presidency, I’d be happy to support her. So this decision doesn’t permanently disqualify her in my eyes.

    One thing does trouble me. A lot of us hated the length of the last campaign. By talking about Palin’s possible strategy, aren’t we accepting a three-and-a-half-year campaign for 2012?

  • http://richardtgarner.blogspot.com Rick Garner

    Latest blog post: Palin Keeps ’em Guessin’.

  • Arch Conservative

    Despite the fact that Palin is very popular among Republicans/Conservatives I can’t help but find her annoying.

    Anyway it’s all about Mitt Romney in 2012. He is gainign momentum and popularity with each billion King Barry wastes.

    If we’re even able to have an election in 2012 I am going to look forward to watching Romney crush Barry like the slimy little cockraoch he is.

    1-20-13 Our long national nightmare is over

  • zedd

    Did you people listen to the same speech that I heard?

    She sounded wacky, disjointed, perhaps high, certainly weird. She seemed to have lost her grip. Oh and that weird sports analogy about herself…. cringe city.

    News anchor?

    What’s going on around here?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    You may be right about Romney/GOP/2012, Arch. It’s becoming abundantly clear that he’s about the only prominent Republican left standing who could find his own ass with both hands.

    Being able to beat Obama, though, that’s another story. It’s going to take a bit more than Having Nice Hair and Looking Good In A Suit.

  • Baronius

    Why, Doctor D, you’re so right, the Republicans might as well just give up now! (I was going for the verbiage of a side-show shill. I hope that came out ok.)

    This far out, we don’t really know who either party’s 2012 nominee is going to be, or what will be the dominant issues. And sometimes, showing up in a nice suit is enough to beat an incumbant. So I don’t see any reason to play the horserace game.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    This far out, Obama for the Dems is safe bet. When was the last time a party turned out its own member as President? I know from watching “John Adams” (shameless review plug) it’s happened, but that was a while ago.

  • m ark

    Nalle for Pres 2012.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Yeah, maybe just a little premature, referring to the first Obama term as a ‘long national nightmare’ less than 6 months in.

    It’s all about the economy. And no one on any part of the political spectrum seems to have done such a great job predicting the last 18 months. So predicting the next 3 years might prove a bit challenging. No doubt there are several BC commenters happy to give it a try.

    If the economy still looks awful next summer, it’s bad news for the Dems in Congress. And if it still looks bad 3 years from now, the political consequences may be secondary. We may all be jobless and homeless.

    My own fearless crystal ball says the economy will be ambiguous next year, some good and some bad signs, so no definitive political outcome. And by 2012 the cycle should be on its way up again. [The economy has dropped out of first place as the Biggest Issue on Americans’ Minds in some recent polls.]

    I’d love to be rid of Palin. I think she brings the general political discourse down to her own level, which is to say cringe-worthy. If a large enough percentage of voters are just Sick of Everybody, she might have a shot in 2012.

    I believe that is a very long shot indeed.

  • Lumpy

    Handyguy’s crystal ball is broken or has been taken over by the MSM propaganda machine.

    I always lAugh when leftists try to tell republicans who their presidential candidate Just has to be. Mitt Romney is a waste of a dollar worth of otherwise useful chemicals. He’s a gold ticket to four more years of Obama.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Didn’t realize Arch was a leftist, Lumpy. Thanks for the insightful clarification.

  • Arch Conservative

    The fact is that Romney has forgotten more about economics and business than Obama will ever now.

    Unless you’re still drinking the koolaid, which many are, it’s obvious that Obama is in way over his head. His ONLY solution to EVERY problem is more spending and government control and yet his whackadoo followers still gripe when he’s called a socialist.

    My crystal ball says that regardless of who the GOP runs in 2012 most people will, much before then, grow very tiresome of Barry’s arrogance and penchant to condescend to the American public as he tries to exert ever more control over our lives and steal more money from us.

    His poll numbers are already plumetting. Despite the fact that the NYT times has released a couple of rugged polls most AMericans do not support either cap and trade nor government run healthcare. Colin Powell is second guessing him. Helen Thomas is getting lippy with Herr Goebels at the White House press conferences. And through it all Barry has been his smug self. He still hasn’t gotten the memo saying he’s not the messiah I guess.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    The fact is that Romney has forgotten more about economics and business than Obama will ever now.

    If he’s forgotten it, how do you know what he knew? :-)

    His ONLY solution to EVERY problem is more spending and government control…

    His only solution? Knowing your views, Arch, I realize that this is like lighting the blue touch paper, but does this one, for instance, really represent increased government spending and control…?

    My crystal ball says that regardless of who the GOP runs in 2012 most people will, much before then, grow very tiresome of Barry’s arrogance…

    And those of us BCers who know and love you are very familiar with your scintillating record when it comes to political predictions…

    Despite the fact that the NYT times has released a couple of rugged polls most AMericans do not support either cap and trade nor government run healthcare.

    Well, at least the NYT has polls to support its argument. What do you have to support yours?

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    is that the same crystal ball that told you the Repubs would hold both houses in 2006?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    And the one that told him Mitt Romney would be President right now.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Arch’s predictions last year included: Giuliani will beat that ‘c–t’ Hillary; Mitt will beat that ‘asshole’ McCain; and no way that empty suit Obama could ever win in the fall. And some various observations about illegal immigration being obviously the top issue on voters’ minds.

    So maybe Mitt should be worried about 2012.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if some lesser known figure came ‘from nowhere’ to take the GOP nomination. That is usually a Dem pattern [Carter, Clinton, Obama were all but unknown 3 years ahead of their elections], but the current GOP field is very meager and the right fresh face could do it.

  • http://www.futonreport.net/ Matthew T. Sussman

    So, who’s going to win the World Series in 2012? My money’s on Tel Aviv.

    (SERIOUSLY, people.)

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I dunno about Obama being unknown 3 years ago, Handy. He wowed the 2004 Democratic Convention with his keynote speech, proceeded to be the only Democrat to win a Republican seat that November in a year that was, in all other respects, a complete train wreck for the party.

    He was most assuredly marked as one to watch even then, although I don’t think many people thought he’d rise so far, so fast.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    DD,

    He wowed the 2004 Democratic Convention with his keynote speech, proceeded to be the only Democrat to win a Republican seat that November in a year that was, in all other respects, a complete train wreck for the party

    A rabbi made a similar point about Obama duering last year’s campaign – putting it in a religious framework. Obama’s keynote speech was delivered to the Democratic convention on Tish’a b’Av, traditionally a day of disaster for the Jewish poeple – and also a day marking the “birth of the messiah” – in other words a finger pointing at a source of messianic Redemption.

    Obviously Obama is no messiah for us; he surrounds himself with haters of Israel and pursues daily a policy of weakening this nation. But it may just from this policy that the events which bring that Redemption will arise. I certainly think so.

    And yes, he seemed marked then as someone to watch; though his rise to power has been phenomenally fast, his fall may be equally phenomenally fast.

  • Arch Conservative

    “though his rise to power has been phenomenally fast, his fall may be equally phenomenally fast.”

    I’ve got my fingers crossed. I hope the fall kills him (that’s meant figuratively for all of you Obama nuthugging whackadoos) It amazes me how people can still support him or justify their support by blaming Bush. Ageneration ago they had to endure Carter to get to Reagan so I guess we now have to endure Barry to get to Mitt.

  • Baronius

    I still can’t believe that George Allen isn’t president. It should have been so simple.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    I still can’t believe that George Allen isn’t president. It should have been so simple.

    Say, goodnight, Gracy.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    It amazes me how people can still support him

    I guess not everybody sees the world in the same peculiar one-dimensional way you do, Arch.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I still can’t believe that George Allen isn’t president. It should have been so simple.

    Making jokes involving monkeys is never a shrewd political move.

    Pigs, though, are OK. Especially if someone else starts it and applies lipstick.

  • http://spacehotel.com/ DW

    This is one of the most mysterious things I’ve seen.

  • Baronius

    Dread, I don’t believe that Allen deliberately used an obscure Belgian Congolese racial slur. What he did do was riff off the funny-named Indian guy at a campaign stop in Appalachia. Different crime, equal severity, same sentence.

    He also taught us a valuable lesson about politics in the technological age. To succeed these days, you can’t be prone to racially insensitive remarks, or gaffes of any kind, which is why a guy like Joe Biden will never become vice-president.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    How did he know the guy had a funny name? Of course, the fact that his mother spent time in Tunisia was likely just an odd coincidence.

  • http://pwinn.tumblr.com/ Phillip Winn

    In today’s political world, everything is “gotcha” politics and plausible deniability.

    Good thing I’m not a politician.

  • Baronius

    EB, the guy said his name, which Allen apparently took to be funny and foreign. As for the proximity of Tunisia to the Belgian Congo, let’s wait for Zedd to weigh in.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Macaca does sound funny, though.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Thanks to the ever-invaluable Wonkette, I found this list of Sarah Palin’s contributions to American ‘idiocracy.’ Many are quite funny and nearly all are appalling. I only count 50, but maybe that’s part of the joke?

    my resumeThe Queen of Idiocracy

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    What you’re saying, Handy, she’s a female version of Dan Quayle. (You’re not gonna earn brownie points with this one.)

  • Cannonshop

    Amazingly, the woman quits, and the Democrats can’t find anyone else to talk about STILL.

    Amazing…If anything is true, then the pettiness of the American left, their absolute obsession with destroying people is their defining characteristic.

    Handy, the woman LEFT THE BUILDING. You can find someone else now, okay? It isn’t like she had a chance after being tied to McCain’s campaign in the first place (McCain was Dole, the token party sacrifice in a year they knew they would lose. Palin was put on the ticket mostly to fill a hole nobody else-at least, nobody with any actual chance of a future in national politics, wanted.)

    I know there are a few folks who still don’t like Kerry on the right-but the Kerry jokes (and Dukakis jokes, and even the Clinton Jokes) ended when the candidate was no longer running for or holding office. YOU folks just can’t leave it alone, though. What is it, can you not function if you don’t have a viable enemy, so you make one up??

    Are things really going so badly for your party that you have to obsess about enemies you no longer have to worry about, in hopes of hiding your own failures, or is it that you want to make a point that any opposition to your chosen messiah will be ground down AFTER being defeated, that you will continue to run the attacks AFTER you’ve won, because you want to make certain nobody dares oppose you again?

    Meh. Petty. just f’in petty, guys. Show some F’in class.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Cannonshop,

    In Israel, the people on what is called the “left” here, the peaceniks, the Labor Party, Meretz, etc., are known not merely for petty hatred, but for the long-lastingness of that hatred. And they are not s nice bunch, continually shouting down any opposition, grabbing microphones at meeings – all the traits the “infantile left” and Arab sympathisers have become known for in the States. I wonder who learnt from whom? Or was it a trait inborn to both?

    Of course, Cannonshop, I would not want to eay anything uncharitable about fellow commenters on BC – it’s against the comments policy! So, I won’t….

  • http://marksaleski.com MarkSaleski

    show some class? so if a dem resigned and filled the “exit speech” with a half a metric ton of lies and silly half-truths…the “classy” thing to do would be to ignore it?

    riiiight.

  • sid (not the kid)

    Boo f*ing hoo. if anything is true it’s the ignorance of the american right. if she left the building she wouldn’t still be conducting interviews and continuing to lie while she walks out the door. you really think people aren’t going to call her out? and where do you live that people have gotten over clinton?

  • Baronius

    I don’t recall people singing derisively as Clinton left office. And if Gore had been in a wheelchair, we wouldn’t have laughed about it.

  • sid (not the kid)

    You don’t recall the mark rich pardon? How old are you? And spare the hypotheticals, nostadamus. You can’t make any claims about what others would have done.

  • Baronius

    I remember the pardons, the Clintons stealing furniture, the staff trashing White House offices. What about it? The transfer of power was handled with class by the Bush people on the way in, and on the way out. The Democrats showed themselves to be bad losers in 2000, and bad winners in 2008.

  • sid (not the kid)

    You just disproved your point about what people said about clinton when he left.are you schizophhrenic or no short term memory? I wouldn’t want to make fun of someone with mental illness. Funny that you don’t remember the crap about the offices being trashed and w’s being removed from pcs was false. When did lying become classy?

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    Some may be amused by this, some not. I thought it rather clever.

    Dan(Miller)

  • sid (not the kid)

    You just disproved your point about what people said about clinton when he left.are you schizophhrenic or no short term memory? I wouldn’t want to make fun of someone with mental illness. Funny that you don’t remember the crap about the offices being trashed and w’s being removed from pcs was false. When did lying become classy?

  • Baronius

    Sid, my point was not that Bill Clinton was respected as he left office. He wasn’t. My point was that he wasn’t heckled the way Bush and Cheney were.

    With regard to the offices being trashed, the initial stories were exaggerated, like the one about the W’s being removed (which is why I didn’t bring it up). But there was some frathouse-mentality trashing of the offices.

    PS – They run a pretty tight ship around here. Check out the comment policy.

  • Bliffle

    Clinto was the most conservative pres in 30 years. More conservative than RR, he left office with budget surpluses. and surpluses projected far enough into the future that Alan Greenspan thought they were ‘dangerous’, (what a nitwit Greenspan was!).

    Clinton also championed and signed the welfare Reform bill, which I daresay nobody else had a chance at.

    I guess the neo-republicans didn’t like him diddling everything in skirts ( although nowadays after all the neo-rep heroes have been brought low they may change their minds).

    As for pardons, Clinton claimed that by pardoning Marc Rich he recovered $150million for the IRS which otherwise would’ve escaped. I bet he also got some off of Richs Ex, a toothsome piece if I ever saw one. Just proves that a randy southern governor doesn’t have to go to Argentina to have some fun.

  • zedd

    Cannonshop,

    The point is not that she quit. I think you kinda missed it. What Sara Palin does would really not be too shocking. Yes its entertaining and contributes to the delicious rubber necking that we all are engaged in, watching the train wreck that the Republican party has become. But no, the real issue is not about her per se.

    I do however have to ask, did you actually listen to her speech? Were you not confused and pained through it all. Was it not almost a tad too cringe-some? Did you not feel awkward and were you not left with the sense that this ain’t gonna end well; that there’s more to this fiasco a’commin?

    However there is a much bigger point. She (the person who maid that wackadoodle speech… strange sports analogy of herself and all) was submitted by your party as the person who is second most qualified to be President. This is worth talking about. This says a lot not necessarily about her (because she’s just a precious individual, bless her heart)but about a large percentage of people in our country. It speaks volumes about our acumen and who we believe is wise enough to lead us. It says a lot about party loyalty before rationale (if we have rationale).

    You lecture on about how she was a sacrificial lamb…. You cant really be serious. Hmmmm let’s see…. A war hero who against a Black guy for President of the United States… Hmmmm? Who was a sure bet?

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Zedd,

    If there’s to be any pain to be felt about good old Sarah, it has only got to do with the diminishing acumen of the average American who would take her seriously.

    I think that’s your point in a nutshell.

    Come back to me!

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    The transfer of power was handled with class by the Bush people on the way in, and on the way out. The Democrats showed themselves to be bad losers in 2000, and bad winners in 2008.

    Further evidence that you live in some alternate universe, perhaps one invented by Lewis Carroll.

  • Dan

    Bush far out classed Obama. One example of many is Obama’s perpetual blame shifting.

    Cringe worthy is his use of the word “inherited” every chance he gets.

    Bush inherited a recession. He never cried about it like Obama. He just fixed it through tax cuts. When that worked like it always does he didn’t take any credit, not that the MSM was offering any.

    Obama is a fool, voted in by fools. Many who are unsalvagable. As this symbiotic relationship born of ignorance, envy, and sloth begins to rot, as it must, Sarah Palins star will only become brighter.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    He just fixed it through tax cuts. When that worked like it always does he didn’t take any credit, not that the MSM was offering any.

    I believe you really believe this. But honestly, it has as much relation to reality as Through the Looking Glass.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    To speak of Bush outclassing anyone (one word, by the way) is already a misnomer. And to follow it up by speaking of Sarah Palin’s star is to add insult to injury. Zedd indeed was right when in #51 she alluded to the diminishing acumen of the average American.

    One would think, of course, that the BC community is a cut above. Fat chance.

  • Cannonshop

    #51
    You lecture on about how she was a sacrificial lamb…. You cant really be serious. Hmmmm let’s see…. A war hero who against a Black guy for President of the United States… Hmmmm? Who was a sure bet?

    The Black guy-he’s a Democrat, and didn’t have a record to attack. (But, unlike the Republicans, he had a competent publicist.)

    After all, the “War Hero” gig didn’t work against the Frat Boy when Kerry tried it, did it? (and GW was an EASIER target-no pop culture skin-color armour, and a record that COULD be attacked.)

    As for Palin…I called it months ago-as in after the election: She will never be a viable candidate. She finally *(apparently) figured it out.

    Unfortunately, her newly-minted enemies still can’t work out the math on that, so we get the wall-to-wall coverage of her resignation.

    She’s still a better choice than the man who’s president of fifty-SEVEN states, and far easier to handle guilt-wise than watching the Iranians string up people for wanting a clean election…

    Maybe we can send ACORN to Iran to help Ahmedenijad cover his tracks a little better.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Below standard, Cannon, and you know it. Indeed, even above average Americans apparently suffer from diminished acumen. That’s the worst I’ve seen from you yet.

  • Clavos

    One would think, of course, that the BC community is a cut above. Fat chance.

    That would, of course, include you, right Roger?

    No need to reply.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    But I shall, Clav. I was speaking selectively. And to refer to a class doesn’t necessarily refer to each and every member.

  • Baronius

    Why would one expect the BC community to be a cut above? I think the quality of discourse on this site is amazing, but for the life of me I can’t imagine why it hasn’t been overwhelmed by the usual internet crowd: the Hinckley wannabes, the Klan dropouts, the single-issue “libertarians” who don’t know anything about the Founding Fathers except for the fact that George Washington grew hemp, the larval hippies who think that wearing a bandana at OSU is “speaking truth to power”, the eco-emos burning hundreds of kilowatt-hours blogging about energy efficiency, the equality bullies, and every public school graduate who thinks that lol is a full sentence and only ever uses the shift key to type strings of exclamation points.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dan #54 – Bush ‘out-classed’ Obama? If you’ll do the research, you’ll find Bush did NOT inherit two wars and the worst economic situation since the Depression…and 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch.

    I’ve always given credit to Reagan for winning the Cold War, because the victory happened on his watch. By the same token, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch (and he WAS warned), so he gets the credit for that, too.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    That’s eloquent, Baronius. Like a stream of consciousness.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    When the discourse on a forum or blog is a cut above the rest, the credit goes to the editors. I’m not kissing their butts by saying so, because they’re both on the wrong side of the political spectrum (as are you). But the credit goes to Dave and Clavos.

    That said, the REAL reason why the level of discourse on BC is higher is…ME! ME ME ME ME ME! That’s just how good I am and how right progressives like myself always are, so there!

    Sorry – couldn’t resist. The credit does go to Dave and Clavos.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “Bush inherited a recession. He never cried about it like Obama.”

    Right. Bush was running around like Chicken Little talking about the upcoming recession, which contributed to it. Plus he had his people constantly blaming Bin Laden on Clinton. You appear to be in no position to declare who the fool is.

    Good luck with Palin in 2012. Hope she doesn’t quit on you in the primaries when the full court press in on.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Correct, Glenn, insofar as the published articles are concerned. But that’s got nothing to do with the threads. And I’d like to take another exception to what you said.
    It’s not “You You You!” but ME!

    Now, I fixed that for you.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I don’t think she’ll make it to primaries but will self-destruct instead. Unless of course the Republicans are bigger fools than we give them credit for.

  • Bliffle

    I’ll second Glenn on #64.

    Thanks, editors.

  • Dan

    Liberals are driving the Sara Palin phenomenon.

    A lot of us Conservs would only like her peripheraly if Libs wouldn’t lose all pretense of sanity in their obsession with her.

    I understand why they do.

    I’ve said before that Libs will need to match their enthusiasm for trashing her with some substantive behaviour on her part.

    15 frivoulous and ironically labled, “ethics” charges have been cancelled. Critics of Palin should step away from their kool-aid and do a little self examination.

    But I hope they don’t, because it’s fascinating to watch.

  • Bliffle

    Another useful metaphorical diversion bites the dust (as it were):

    “…step away from their kool-aid and do a little self examination.”

    A recent memoir by a Jonestown survivor says that the True Believers weren’t killed by poisoned Kool-Ade but by machine-gunning guards.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    On Sarah, I think David Horsey nailed the issue (no pun intended) with his political cartoon.

    Come to think of it, here’s one of his others that came after Sarah indicated that small-town rural white-bread America was the ‘real’ America.

    And let this be a brazen shill for David Horsey – he’s won two Pulitzers and is IMO the best political cartoonist in America.

  • Baronius

    Bliffle, as I understand it, people died both ways, along with the ones who were forced to drink the kool-aid at gunpoint. I’ve always found the kool-aid analogy appalling.

  • Zedd

    Dan,

    The Libs didn’t make that crazy speech. Dude, it was bad. That speech was confusing and she sounded nuts or high. No one prompted her to make it. Does it really escape you that its shocking that THAT woman was presented as a potential for the Presidency?. Im not nec a Liberal but I vote Dem or than Rep. I am baffled by people like you who cant recognize stupid. I’m amazed that your party loyalty is so strong that you’d be willing to have what seems to be an imbecile run the nation ANGAIN just to say you won. You guys don’t even evaluate your principles to see if they make sense under the specific circumstance. You just spout this stupid stuff that has no real meaning….

    “I’m pro states rights”. What does that really mean? What does that do?

    “I hate big government”. What does that mean? Big how? Why do you hate it really?

    “I am for family values” What the heck does that mean?

    I may be shallow and simply don’t get it. Could you answer these questions and then tell us all what Sara Palin was really saying in that speech. Why did she resign?

  • Zedd

    Roger,

    @52 We are in agreement.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I knew you would. Forget about #73. It’s no use.

  • Franco

    Joanne Huspek

    I enjoyed reading that. And your right, Sarah Palin was is the quintessential anti-politician. A genuine human being first and an accidental politician second.

    “Calculated move? Or political suicide? I’m still trying to figure it out”

    One thing is for certain though, the unrelenting and trigger happy critics of Palin keep their full court press on at all times and can not give it a moments rest even as you read this. This speaks volumes to the fact of how much political power potential they know she still holds. Because clearly if she did not have the power, they would not be giving her the time of day. I like that the most!

  • Cannonshop

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    58 – roger nowosielski
    Jul 10, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Below standard, Cannon, and you know it. Indeed, even above average Americans apparently suffer from diminished acumen. That’s the worst I’ve seen from you yet.

    I know, I know… my real problem is that I can’t believe anyone is still taking her seriously enough to watch her speeches in hopes of getting zingers.

    Seriously. Palin was a state-grade politician tossed in to fill a hole the GOP didn’t want to fill with someone they thought had talent. I admit, I fell for her too-but then, that was only because the idea of a Chicago Politician and Joe Biden as No.1 and 2 respectively creeped me out that much.

    Still does, matter of fact…Palin cracked up-who wouldn’t-at least, who that isn’t a sociopathic droid wouldn’t? At least she had the brains to step down and out before she became another media vampire like so many others.

    I just wish the Democrats could find someone INTERESTING now-what’s next, full-hour critiques on prime time about her elementary-school-years arguments? Rattled ex-boyfreinds? Bigfoot? what??

  • Glenn Contrarian

    C-shop –

    You’re looking for someone interesting? Personally, I think that’s one of the biggest differences between liberals and conservatives. You look for ‘interesting’ high-flying rhetoric, and we look for pragmatism, that which makes our lives collectively better.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Well, Cannon, I misunderstood your comment then. Yours is one of the more reasonable voices from the right, and it just didn’t jibe. Sorry.

  • Clavos

    that which makes our lives collectively better.

    There’s the real difference: that word, “collectively.”

  • Bliffle

    As I said when Palin was chosen for the republican ticket: she’s an insubstantial lightweight and was blown away by the first gust of political winds.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    It’s interesting to me that relatively few voices on here are standing up for the governor, considering how much excitement and saliva she aroused on these pages last September.

    I’ve never understood her appeal, but I don’t deny its existence. Mary Matalin reported that she was in a Wal-Mart in Virginia when the resignation story hit cable news, and other shoppers responded with a ‘yee-hah’ supportive of Palin. [Maybe Ms. Matalin — the multi-millionaire pundit in a Wal-Mart!? — misinterpreted the intent of the happy yelling. Maybe they were happy to see her go.]

    My heart sank when I saw that Frank Rich was devoting his entire column, “She Broke the G.O.P. and Now She Owns It,” to Palin today. Enough already! But his point may well be valid: there is a substantial amount of inchoate rage out there, largely among white rural voters. They feel disenfranchised and alienated. And the right candidate could latch onto that and build a campaign around it. [Probably a losing campaign, but still.]

    And these folks do like Palin. So do Republicans nationally: 71% of Republicans polled after the resignation announcement said they’d vote for her for president. That may not be the most meaningful of statistics, but it’s not an indicator of a pariah or a has-been.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Read that article, too, Handy, and frankly, I was also surprised. Frank Rich may have something there, but I really doubt whether the “disenfranchised rural voters” can carry the nation. If anything, it’s a reflection on the deteriorated quality of conservative thought – just a tad above the Christian Right.

    When will we see the end of ignorance?

  • zedd

    Roger,

    Well put.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    About comments 83 and 84 – what disgusting arrogance!

  • Cannonshop

    #78 No, Glenn, you misunderstand. Liberals are generally boring because they repeat the same shit that has failed over and over again, but with the Mantra “This time it will be DIFFERENT.” The Great Society and War on Poverty didn’t fix anything-they just generated permanent votes from a captive class kept just comfortable enough to remain a captive class.

    The Inner City is the Democrat “Vote Plantation”, and the self-appointed “Elites” on the left are the Plantation Masters, complete with the same Paternalistic attitude and similar exploitive behaviours (only without the open and honest brutality, instead it’s replaced with a system of encouraging dependence and self-pity.)

    Palin WAS interesting-up until she cracked. She was interesting because she broke the Republican machine in Alaska and put corrupt pols from both parties out of office…something dems don’t do. It was the main source of her appeal, and to an extent, still is-but she has all the chance of a fart in a whirlwind of being effective at ANYTHING now-other than retirement from public life.

    Your “Pragmatism” is the “Pragmatism” of a true-believer in the church of Karl Marx, it’s about as pragmatic as Radical Islam, and about as effective at fixing REAL problems…So far, your side’s “Solutions” have a zero percent success rate in the United States, even when they’re entrenched for decades and rendered untouchable.

    FNMA, FDMC, CRA, SSI, these and thousands of other programmes have only served to get innocent people into deep shit, or in encouraging apathy and an “Entitled” mentality-one that is right down at the bottom of the mess we’re in as a country right now (financially AND economically). Massaged numbers to hide unemployment don’t help fix the problem, buying GM and Chrysler isn’t fixing the problem, Buying Banks isn’t fixing the problem, handing out cheques isn’t going to fix it either. Nor is funnelling money to slush-funds and half-disguised party organs like ACORN.

    The PROBLEM is good intentions gone rampant combined with a deliberate ignorance of both prior experiences, and current results of prior attempts.

    “Comfortable in Poverty” is NOT the same as “Getting OUT OF POVERTY.” It’s not even CLOSE.

    By the way: when ARE Democrats going to start paying their (badword) Taxes?

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    #85,

    Spoken like a true champion of humility.

  • badger

    Remember Obama had less experience than Palin. He won due to his race, deceitful actions with acorn (fraudulent registrations, college students voting twice, thugs strategically placed outside polling booths, Tables for Obama actually set up INSIDE of voting places. So actually Obama won not because of his credentials but because he cheated. I guess he could not be elected for his skills. No candidate has ever gone that far. Like any good casino that recognizes a cheater we will be ready to counteract all of the deceit. With CNN ratings falling as fast as Obamas, I don’t think the bought and sold media will be much help to him this time.

    So if Palin goes against him she WILL have a great chance. She has as much experince as him (actually a little more than he did before being elected) and she has two things he doesn’t. Honesty and a love of country. Obama’s Acorn tree has rotting roots that will send it plumeting by 2012 and he will be riding it all the way down.

  • Telus

    “Both had little experience and both were the flavor of the week.”

    Think you’re talking about Sarah and HILLARY here! Being the ‘better half’ of some president does not qualify you to run for office as a senator or a president any more than being Miss RunnerUp in a beauty contest, just as running for senator as a stepping stone to a run for the presidency is no less egregious than running for governor as a stepping stone to national media fame and fortune.

    Both of these ladies used their political offices for personal aggrandizement in the most callous way, and the invectives and slurs they used to claw and paw their way to those power positions should be forever branded in scarlet letters on their chests.

  • Telus

    Cannonshop … “they repeat the same sh-t that has failed over and over again…”

    Ahh-ha-ha-ha-ha! I thought you were talking about NAM and GWOT! When are we going to dismantle the charade ‘Defense’ that for all the $Ts we pumped into it, not only failed to *defend* our shores at Pearl Harbor and at WTC, but they failed egregiously, failed deliberately, PNAC’s ‘Mein Kampf’ was to ‘start a small war’, and now we are sacrificing our economy and our health care to what, carpet bomb goat herders. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!?

    Palin was interesting because she ratted out her own *mentor*, which shows just how far you can trust that broad behind your back, and poof, sure enough, six months later she walks away from a state she has bankrupted, for a fat $Ms book deal, with 28 indictments against her, but Palin is just Paris in a pants suit, the ReThugs in power will manipulate the media to make sure she dances on air until 2012, then they’ll discard her like a streetwalker.

    Good job, men!

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