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The Approaching Civil War in Israel – Sleepwalking into a Nightmare

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Warnings from Politicians

I picked up this little item from Arutz Sheva Thursday morning (26 November 2009). Ynetnews carefully avoided mentioning MK Danny Danon's (Likud) warning that Barak and Netanyahu are leading us to civil war in its coverage of a meeting of leaders from Judea and Samaria.

Later that day, MK Tzipora Hotobeli (Likud) amplified this point, saying that Prime Minister Netanyahu had made a mistake in strategically separating Judea and Samaria from Jerusalem in dealing with the United States and its little "Palestinian" puppet Mahmoud Abbas.

Not all of our soldiers are happy with being used as goons to kick out fellow Jews from their homes, when it is obvious to them (and any sane individual) that instead of ruining the lives of Jews (and fellow Israeli citizens), they should be protecting them from depradations of terrorists bent on murdering them.

But Security MInister Ehud Barak (Labor), just the day before (25 November 2009), had warned recruits that soldiers' protests against the illegal use of force against Jewish residents in Judea and Samaria would be met with an iron fist.

And Binyamin Netanyahu is determined to bow to the setting sun of the Americans, as did the evil priests in the days immediately before the destruction of the Temple of Solomon, who defecated in front of the Altar of G-d as they faced the sun worshipping it.

Events of the last several weeks or months here in Israel lead inescapably to this conclusion: the day that Jewish residents will have to fire on Jewish policemen and soldiers to protect their homes is approaching rapidly.

The Double Standard of the Hiloní Establishment in Israel

First, let's look at the viciousness of the Border Guards and Israel Police in dealing with Jews here in Judea and Samaria, and the double standard applied in law here, where Arabs are given a nearly free pass, and Jews are treated like trash. It was this kind of evil that brought upon us the Holocaust in Europe – Jews persecuting Jews.

Two days ago, a member of mishmár hag'vúl, the Border Guards who are paramilitary police, was indicted for beating up a national camp demonstrator.

According to Arutz Sheva, this all took place last July. "The police originally claimed they were the ones who were attacked, but authorities accepted a video as evidence that police officer Tal Yemini was the instigator."

The victim, a youth at MaHané Horón, a Samarian community, was shown in the video with Yemini shoving his fist in his nose and eyes, though the boy did not display any aggressive behavior. Nevertheless, the police arrested the youth on charges of "attacking a policeman."

This incident was newsworthy because it was more in the "man bites dog" category than "dog bites man". Members of the Border Guard routinely incite national camp demonstrators and attack them, and then arrest them for "attacking police officers". According to Arutz Sheva, spokesmen for the Civil Rights Organization of Judea and Samaria also charged that Border Police discriminate against Jews by arresting them often without evidence, while routinely releasing Arabs immediately after arrest.

The pigs are the same the world over, telling the same lies, and getting pliable or bought-off judges to go along with their fraud. The instances where the judge does not go along with the fraud and lies are the newsworthy ones.

An example of this is this case where a cop was sued by his victim over how he treated him during the expulsion at 'Amóna, four years ago. Arutz Sheva also reported on this nine days ago on 17 November. According to the article, shotér (Patrolman) David Atia will pay almost NIS 60,000 to David Ladvin, whom he attacked at the protest against demolitions at 'Amona in 2005. Atia was filmed butting Ladvin, his head in his helmet. Nevertheless, note carefully: the judge in the case, Judge Karmi Mosek of the the Jerusalem Magistrates' Court, set aside a criminal conviction of Atia for assault so that he could continue serving on the police – and continue attacking other demonstrators. There may well be other issues involved as well. By setting aside the criminal conviction of shotér Atia, the judge did not interfere with the pazá"m, the system of promoting cops and soldiers according to time served rather than merit or passing of exams. So David Atia will likely wear some kind of rank, and get better pay. Beating up religious Jews pays in the Israel Police.

About Ruvy

Hi!! Thanks for coming to my article! I was raised in Brooklyn, was graduated from the City University of New York in 1978 with a BA in political science and public administration there. I lived in Minnesota for a number of years. There I managed restaurants and wrote stories. We moved with our children family to Israel where we now reside. My work can be found at Ruvy's Roost, Jewish Indy,, and on Facebook under my full name, Reuven Kossover
  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Maybe the difference is that your story is fiction, Roger. The warriors are all ‘noble’.* My warrior as well as the Ruvy from Samaria warrior are real and can be mean.

    Sometimes the warrior and the medic, in my story, seem to take the same exact action–just from a different motivation, I think. The answer is coming clearer, for me all the time. I think it may have to do with keeping a certain idea at the forefront of my thoughts…you ready?

    We will all die. Do the right thing.

    *Had to find a word to replace ‘gypped’ the other day…now here is ‘noble’ and it’s implication that the dominators are the good guys–gotta watch my language. ;-)

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    I see it too as a kind of inner struggle within one personality – mitigated on on side by outrage and another one, when the cooler head prevails, but the more contemplative aspect of a person in his more (self) reflective, understanding, loving mode. All along, I believe that’s what Irene had in mind when she introduced the dichotomy.

    I like that description: that is what I think of the warrior–as outraged.

    I would have to check with Irene, but I can see how she (and you…and probably Mark–as he used the word ‘ethic’ rather than analogy) would be using that sort of characterization.

    But, like with Ruvy, my warrior is real. I’m just describing my own feelings. And they have not always been ‘noble’, sensitive, or loving. I do see though that my own character is becoming tamer and more like the one you have described. Perhaps you are farther along in the story than me. Either that or you character does not need redemption. Mine may be more flawed. :-)

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    The Castaneda’s idea of warrior was that he/she were impeccable – to mean as close to “perfect” as possible.

    Don Quixote was noble.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    And to complicate the concept – “warrior” also means “against the self.”

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    I love Don Quixote…he is my kind of hero. And just like in real life…they stopped him from being idealistic…so he became realistic…and was never happy again.

    154 – that works for my usage…

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    The human lot.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Is the non-violence movement necessarily pacifist and non-confrontational? One could argue it’s more confrontational than a typical kind of conflict.

    Is a pacifist necessarily non-confrontational?

    Some warriors are warriors in different spheres. Same with medics. (Irene)

    Words, words, words… Sometimes all the explanation seem true, though they say a whole bunch of different things… it just seems to depend on how one is looking at them… makes me delirious. Maybe we should have some subscript numbering scheme. :-)

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    145 – Mark,

    I don’t believe you.

    lol…that is what they all say :-)

    Okay, what does Roger mean by this?

    #123 – Roger writes, in regard to your #121, which says: (That’s not to say that the whole power/dominator narrative doesn’t run the risk of essentialism.)

    “Correct, and some aspects of Arendt’s views provide a kind of remedy. I believe that was your main concern about taking Foucault too seriously.”

    That means you are dissing Foucault, doesn’t it? lol

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    I was just experimenting, seeing how far one could stretch the usual definitions.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Not entirely, but Mr. F goes overboard at times and needs to be read in a more constructive fashion once the therapy is over.

  • Ruvy

    I’m presently working on another article on this general topic. It doesn’t deal with Arabs per se. A detailed article on that topic will come out (with G-d’s help) when a friend of mine, Lowell Gallin, releases his forthcoming book, Cracking the Qur’an Code: Volume I [Root & Branch Association, Ltd]

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    160, Okay, Roger. Thanks. I am still wondering wondering what Mark thinks.

  • Irene Wagner

    Maybe Mark is still wondering what he’s wondering. I’m still wondering what I’m wondering.
    Roger #150, yes partly. You and Cindy described the internal struggle between two aspects of the same personality, the one “having its mind made up already” and overpowering, the other merciful, seeking to understand and even concede. That is a struggle, but it isn’t the one I’m talking about. That impeccable Christ description of yours helps me to explain. A person wonders: “am I so far away from the ideal of the impeccable Warrior Christ that as a warrior, I’d do more harm to the good than harm to the harm?”

    Cindy lol@needing an index. What I mean by “warriors in different spheres” is: let someone whose essays on pacifism you told me about, Greg Boyd explain it.

    Ruvy, your description of warriors and medics made me smile. Funny, and insightful. I wish everything you wrote here made me smile. I guess if I could read Arabic, I could read attitudes that were just as distressing. BUt what you wrote about medics and warriors, that made me smile.

    It’s way late. I don’t think I can come back.

  • Mark

    Cindy, Rog was referring back to our previous discussion in which I objected to Foucault’s reduction of the power relationship to dominance and offered Arendt’s alternative reduction to co-operation.

    Both fail the anti-essentialist smell test, imo.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Irene,

    That was good amplification of the idea of internal struggle, capturing perhaps the essence of why there is a struggle to begin with, and yes, it does have to do with self-doubt. So yes, you helped articulate the deeper meaning because the road to perfection is endless and a lifetime quest. And the same goes for our understanding, which is always less than complete.

    Mark, I think you are correct in that both positions are guilty of reductionism and are (therefore?) essentialist. I happen to think that Lyotard manages to escape these flaws because his strategy is less theoretical and more practical, nibbling at the edges or the margins. I’ll address it later in our thread.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Mark,

    I vaguely recall that now. I will have to consider that reductionism/essentialism idea…

    —–

    Irene? You didn’t tell me about Greg Boyd? Hmmm…what might have happened: You told me about the passages that he deals with re: Christian anarchism. Then, maybe I found his site while I was looking up info on those passages?

    I will look over your post and that page from his site later. Got a busy night ahead. Thanks for that.

    —–
    Here is one of my favorite things for you all (you too Ruvy!)…since Roger brought up my hero…

    …and I have been thinking that he is sort of the quintessential portrait of the right balance of warrior and medic…

    I chose this imperfect video because I think it is the best performance of this song ever. Maybe I am biased because I saw him perform this on Bway, or because he looks a little like my father. Strangely, he looks a little like my mother, too… But, I think when he puts his costume on and becomes the character there is nothing comparable.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    It is obvious that even today, nobody gives a damn about the Israelis kicked out of Gush Qatif illegally in 2005. I don’t expect the Arabo-philes on this site to give a damn – just like I don’t expect Europeans to give a damn or Americans. But at least fellow Israelis – especially those who pretend to have opposed this treasonous act – People who should give a damn – don’t.

    The building freeze undertaken to kiss American ass has fucked over he residents of Gush Qatif a second time. From the article: After noting that the freeze will cost them money, both directly and indirectly, Yefet added, “This decision is a freeze not only of construction, but also of our lives. It means we must remain yet another year in this temporary housing, in addition to the two years it will take to actually build, and in addition to the four and a half years since we were thrown out of our homes.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE–UPDATE

    Every confrontation like this moves us closer to the point where one Jew will fire upon another.

    In the Russian Empire, different sects of Jews would denounce competing sects to the Russian government, and the Russian government would be the torture chamber. Today celebrates the release of one such Jew, framed by Jews from a competing sect, from a Russian prison in 1798.

    Here we have no Russians to serve as the instruments of torture – so the goons – supposedly people to protect us – turn upon us instead. It was this behavior in Europe that brought upon us the holocaust of the Nazis. It will be this behavior today that will bless the hands of the savages to the north HizbAllah – when they attack us in the near future – turning our cities into funeral pyres.

    Continuing violence in Samaria as police attack Jews to the applause of Arabs.

    Units of the goon squad of the Israel Police, Yassa”m, attacked residents of Kedumim Sunday morning, and beat up demonstrators, Arutz Sheva reported today. There is a video to be watched along with the report.

    From the article:

    The inspectors were accompanied by special Yassam unit police officers, who reportedly used strong violence to disperse the protestors. The Yassamnikim hit the town’s mayor, Chananel Durani, and his deputy, eyewitnesses say, and threw young girls on the street, as seen on the video above.

    The inspectors ultimately succeeded in entering the town, where they placed the stop-work orders and quickly left. Their cars were pelted with eggs and other objects, courtesy of the residents.

    The Shomron Residents Committee reports that on their way to Kedumim, the forces drove through three nearby Arab villages – Funduk, Haja, and Kadoum – places that the army generally considers too dangerous to enter in order to apprehend terrorists or confiscate weapons.

    To the Jewish residents’ horror, they learned that the Arab residents applauded as the convoy of forces drove through.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Ruvy, with all due respect, perhaps it is time for civil war. Perhaps that is what your nation needs to finally come together as the State of Israel. I continue to believe that Arab and Jew can coexist in peace and mutual respect. The problem is that political leaders from both sides are unable to effect the same. I pray (I MEAN this is the best way), that the United States stays out of the civil war because our involvement in your civil war will result in the inevitable — another United States civil war.

    In the meantime, Ruvy, regardless of the outcome in your land, know that this individual on the other side of the world holds you and your family in his unworthy prayers.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Ruvy, I see that the Israeli government continues to pay comatose Ariel Sharon $315 million per year including a car and driver allowance. Not bad for a man who has been in a vegetative state for four years. Now, how much has the United States given to the Israeli government in the last 4 years? And how much of that money has been lent back to the United States with hefty interest rates attached? Americans, take note. If you want to see where your tax dollars are going, start educating yourselves. It looks like Ariel Sharon is paid three times the money Barack Obama earns and Sharon is in a literal coma while Obama remains politically comatose.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Silas,

    Thank you for your kind words. And please don’t ever say your prayers are unworthy. They are far more worthy than those of the man who pretends religiosity while screwing over his neighbor, or than those who pray by rote without caring or understanding the words they utter. They come from the heart, and they come from the heart of a man who has struggled with his faith. G-d listens especially closely to such prayers – at least so I believe.

    aní modéh l’khá m’rosh halév. I thank you with all my heart.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Ruvy, do you think the day will come where Arab and Jew can exist peacefully within a state? Or are those dreams too unrealistic?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Silas,

    do you think the day will come where Arab and Jew can exist peacefully within a state? Or are those dreams too unrealistic?

    I repeat the last page of my article Bad News at My Doorstep.

    It may seem that we in Israel are a “generation lost in space – with no time to start again”. It may seem that all we can do is “clench our fists in rage” as forces of evil and puppets of foreign powers put this land on a sacrificial altar to foreign gods of “peace” and death. But I do not believe so. It has gotten considerably worse than it was in 1989 when Rabbi Meir Kahane, may his memory be a blessing, and may G-d avenge his blood, sat pessimistically estimating the future of the region on C-Span. But he had faith in the G-d of Israel and I “have faith in G-d above” and in His Prophets.

    In his forthcoming book, Cracking the Qur’an Code (Root & Branch Association, Ltd), my friend and colleague, Lowell Gallin writes,

    In the not-too-distant future, I believe that the world will hear Muslims chanting Allahu Akbar (‘God is great’) and Jews chanting Am Yisrael Chai (‘The People of Israel lives’) – Together.

    In the not-too-distant past, two brothers, Ishmael the elder and Isaac the younger, buried Abraham their father – Together.

    In the not-too-distant future, I believe that the Children of Ishmael and the Children of Israel (Abraham’s grandson and Isaac’s younger son) will replant and rebuild the Lands of Arabia and Israel, as part of a truly new Middle East – Together.

    In the not-too-distant future, I believe that the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel will wake up and return to the Land of Israel – Together.

    In the not-too-distant future, I believe that the Kingdom of David and Solomon will be reestablished in the Land of Israel, and the Twelve Tribes of Israel will ratify selection of the King. Together.

    In the not-too-distant future, I believe that two brothers, Nebaioth and Kedar, Ishmael’s first and second born sons, will bring offerings to the rebuilt Third and Final Temple of Jerusalem – Together.

    A few years ago, I found myself on a Jerusalem construction site together with an Arab foreman and his two young co-workers. The foreman spoke of the problems plaguing Arabs and Jews in the Promised Land. I said that a descendant of David, the King Messiah, would arise to sit on the throne of his fathers, and that he would bring peace between Arabs and Jews in the Promised Land.

    ‘When?’ the foreman quietly asked.

    ‘Soon’, I answered.

    No one spoke or moved. Though we were alone on a construction site, and I could easily have had an ‘accident’, I felt no fear of them.

    At that moment we were united by our shared fear of God and respect for His servant David, whom the Qur’an describes as a king, a prophet and the author of the Psalms.

    When all this transpires – and it will transpire – the trouble will no longer be at my doorstep – it will be at yours.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Ruvy, believe or not, that gives me hope. Perhaps the trouble will be at our doorstep. And when that day comes it will be deserved because we insinuated ourselves into that which was not our business.

    In the course of doing business, I have surrounded myself with Armenians, Persians, Jews and Moroccans. It’s an interesting bunch, especially when together under one roof. But in my group’s diversity, there is commonality. In our debates, there is consensus. And, in our prayers, we all are Children of the same Deity hoping for the same goal — a justice for all which achieves peace.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Netanyahu finally is admitting that his “security” minister” is sticking it to the Jews in Judea and Samaria, admitting Freeze Orders Go Further than Intended.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    A huge demonstration was scheduled for this evening in Paris Square, near the prime minister’s residence in Jerusalem. police are preventing buses from reaching the site in Jerusalem.

    Another example of selective enforcement of the law by the illegal régime of American puppets in Jerusalem. It is time to draw out the steel of Matatayhu to deal with the scum at the top, who worship the evil prince of the setting sun, Barry Soetoro/Barak Obama.

  • Ruvy

    It’s been a year since this article was written. Another illegal building freeze is in the works. Meanwhile, the glass is high and the weather is dry – great weather for HizbAllah to bombard us with missiles and try to destroy us. Who knows?

    While we wait in the shards of disillusion for war to strike, we live our lives, marry off our children, and pray that the evil ones will not interrupt our petty plans too much.

  • Adam

    So now you guys call President Obama anti semitic and you want Israel to become even more right wing, those settlers who live there are animals! Ugh there is no sense talking, you israelis who read this crap are radicals and idiots…

  • http://www.google.com Whatever

    Gee, we’ll be more than happy to withdraw our $3 BILLION in aid that we “sick American fucks” give your country every year. It’s too bad that a bunch of fundamentalist whackadoos have ruined what was once a great country.

  • http://www.google.com Whatever

    And yes, BARACK OBAMA is smart enough to see through your “we want peace, they don’t”
    delusion. Yes, at one time, it did seem like Israel wanted peace-until facists like Netanhahu and Leibermann got in office. Now, the “peace process” is a sick joke. Which is why we “sick American fucks” should leave Israelis to their own devices and pay attention to OUR problems in OUR country.