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AUSTIN – Inspired by a rant from financial pundit Rick Santelli, a movement sprang up to hold tea parties around the nation to object excessive spending and taxation. Santelli has since been left far behind and many others have climbed on the bandwagon, but the tea party movement carried on and today it exploded in tea parties in cities and small towns around the nation, protesting bailouts, stimulus spending and the growing deficit.

In Austin 1500 people attended a noon rally to hear speeches from local activists and politicians, including anti-tax advocate Michael Quinn Sullivan, Mike Voorhees from the Travis County chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus, Railroad Commission Chairman Michael Williams and Texas Governor Rick Perry. The crowd was young and enthusiastic and diverse, with Republicans and libertarians and independents all there to express their opposition to bailouts and stimulus spending and their desire for governmental reform.  A second, larger rally was scheduled for after work with a reported turnout of over 5000.

Many different groups were represented, including Ron Paul's non-partisan Campaign for Liberty, the Texas Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, anti-toll-road activists and local issue groups whose interests cross party lines. Major sponsoring groups included FreedomWorks and non-partisan conservative advocacy group Americans for Prosperity. Despite concerns that activists from groups like MoveOn.org and ACORN would attempt to disrupt the event, they were nowhere to be seen and the mood was one of unity and calm determination.

Some in the media looked on the rallies with suspicion as manufactured events from FOX News and the Republican Party, dismissing them as nothing but partisan grandstanding or simple tax protests, but turnout nationwide was much larger and more varied than anticipated and the message at the rallies was focused on broader issues than just taxation. The rally in Lafayette Square in DC was a disappointment, with the star power of the speaker list overwhelmed by the torrential rain. Turnout was much better in other major cities, with thousands turning out in Portland, Olympia, Morganton, Dayton, Cincinnati and almost 2000 other cities around the nation. Over 4000 showed up to hear Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher speak in Lansing in one of the areas hardest hit by the recession and  job loss of the past year. Reportedly the largest turnout was in Atlanta where 15,000 showed up to protest.

When asked about the tea parties at a tax day appearance, President Obama reiterated his promises of no tax increases for 95% of taxpayers and tax cuts for the middle class and promised to simplify the tax code. He did not address concerns about stimulus spending or the deficit.

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About Dave Nalle

Dave Nalle is Executive Director of the Texas Liberty Foundation, Chairman of the Center for Foreign and Defense Policy, South Central Regional Director for the Republican Liberty Caucus and an advisory board member at the Coalition to Reduce Spending. He was Texas State Director for the Gary Johnson Presidential campaign, an adviser to the Ted Cruz senatorial campaign, Communications Director for the Travis County Republican Party and National Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He has also consulted on many political campaigns, specializing in messaging. Before focusing on political activism, he owned or was a partner in several businesses in the publishing industry and taught college-level history for 20 years.
  • Do the math? How about provide the links to any of your numbers, Lumpy.

    Free Republic has updated their spreadsheet to 551,074. That’s also the approximate figure Instapundit and Christian Science Monitor are using, the latter also reports more 800+ events.

    CSM also reports “Pajamas TV network said on Saturday that it used 850 citizen reporters, police accounts, and video tape to estimate the size of the crowd at each event. The network said in a release that total attendance reached 618,000.”

    Where your other two-thirds coming from?

  • STM

    It’s football season here …

    Tonight I’m in a place that has seven TVs all going at the same time … today whyile I’ve worked I’ve watched two National Rugby League Games, I’m on my third Super 14 Rugby match (franchises from three countries, right now the Cheetahs vs The Chiefs in Bloemfontein in South Africa – as we’ve crossed time zones from New Zealand, through Australia, and now into the Republic), and the Australian Football (played in the heathen southern and western states of Oz by men in tight shorts and sleeveless tops like my daughter’s) is quietly on in the background on a distant TV, so the heathens in the office won’t feel left out.

    Then the Pommy soccer will be on after the Super 14.

    Geez life’s f..king great, ain’t it??

    A couple of cases of nectar wouldn’t go astray.

  • STM

    JR: “Not right now we’re not. FUCKING NHL PLAYOFFS, BABY!”

    I disagree mate. What’s not civilised about really doing your nuts over sport??

  • STM

    You’re not Robinson Crusoe there Rosey

  • Stan, I feel the same way about France.

  • Jordan Richardson

    They’re civilised up there Ruve.

    Not right now we’re not. FUCKING NHL PLAYOFFS, BABY!

  • STM

    B/tone: “I can’t think of a state I’d rather see secede from the union than Texas.”

    One of my mates says Texas is a great place.

    He says the problem is that it’s full of Texans.

  • STM

    Ruvy: “So, the evil will succeed south of your border, and may infest you north of the border”.

    Don’t think so. They managed to resist that for the past 200 or so years.

    And the only tea party they’re in danger of having in Canada is the Queen’s annual bash at government house put on by the G-G.

    They’re civilised up there Ruve. If they were bummed off about taxes they’ll be writing to the newspapers and telephoning their local MP.

    Americans should remember this: they have nothing to fear … but fear itself.

  • Come to think of it, it is a perfect way of starting a political movement from the ground up – a garden/social party setting. In fact, that may well be how the GOP got formed.

  • Don’t give Glenn Beck any ideas, now. You should try to organize one yourself, Dave. It’d advance your political career. And try to keep ’em focused.

  • I think holding it on a weekday and on tax day was a mistake. Too many people at work or doing their taxes. The target audience for the movement are the kind of people who have pretty heavy schedules on a weekday.

    It’s a lot easier to get a big rally when your target audience is students and union workers who get off work to go to the rally and the chronically unemployed.


  • Therefore … 2000 is still a respectable number. If it was on the weekend, we’d see 5000 parties, each 5000 strong.

    That’s twenty five million of angry Americans.

  • Dan

    It was during a work day. That ought to count for something.

  • Jet


  • Lumpy

    do the math bicho. 2000 tea parties averaging about 1000 people each.

  • Jet

    What is it with you straight guys and cherrys? …..oh…..never mind.

  • Jet,

    Well, maybe with a cherry on top!


  • With Lumpy, it might take forever.

  • Jet

    Oh come on EB, it takes a long time to come up with a snappy retort.

  • Still waiting, lumpy

  • That’s an interesting bit of news.

    Perhaps some Republicans in the position of leadership are beginning to recognize the need for a better strategy than constant Obama bashing.

  • Jet

    Dallas Morning News (posted this over on the wrong string-my bad)

    AUSTIN – In a sharp rebuff of Gov. Rick Perry, the Senate on Thursday tentatively voted to accept $555 million in unemployment aid from the federal economic stimulus plan.

    Senators voted 22-9 in favor of a bill by Sen. Kevin Eltife, R-Tyler, that would authorize state officials to receive the stimulus money to shore up Texas’ trust fund for unemployed workers.

    The Texas Workforce Commission has estimated that the fund will drop $839 million below its minimum required level by Oct. 1 because of the large number of Texans receiving unemployment benefits this year.

    If the stimulus funds are not accepted – as the governor has proposed – employers would be called on to make up the difference through a “deficit” unemployment insurance tax next year.

    All of the no votes in the GOP-dominated Senate were cast by Republicans, but 10 GOP members joined with Democrats in voting for the bill.

  • Jet,

    You too ought to check out the thread I linked above. You’ll have a ball.

  • Jet

    Perhaps we need to split the News catagory up and and propaganda to it.

  • Jet

    Not even with uh nutmeg Baritone?

  • Well, B-man. Laughter is good.
    You should check out the thread on this piece if you want a really belly ache. It deals with a fraudulent email for which Ruvy fell lock, stock and barrel.

    I’m still rolling with laughter.

  • Even the most generous estimates render the whole thing a rather pathetic effort.


    Do you think the the Wrigleyville Bastille is up for being stormed?


  • Now there’s an image I’ll have to live with all day, but I must say, I’ve never cared for strawberry jam.


  • Jet

    Nice to know I wasn’t the only one who knew that reference Zing! 🙂

  • Jet

    Lumpy’s making the figures up off the top of his head… hence the name “Lumpy”?

  • zingzing

    dan: “Forgive my ignorance, and I’m not sure I even want to know, but what is this reference to “tea bagging” that the MSM finds snicker worthy? I assume it is a sexual act or reference?”

    ha. it refers to a man dipping his testicles into a woman’s (or a man’s, take your pick,) mouth.

    i like to slather a little strawberry jam… oh, nevermind.

  • “most estimates are more like 2 million protestors nationwide.”

    where are you getting “most estimates,” lumpy? As I search online, it looks like you are the one who needs math help.

    This morning Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, noted that at least 268,000 people
    Pajama Media has 481,000
    Free Republic has a spreadsheet that lists 509,220

  • Do we have a Bastille?

    Indeed yes. I believe it’s a small second-hand clothing emporium in Wrigleyville.

  • A quarter million nationwide? More people than that gathered in Chicago’s Grant Park on election night to celebrate Obama’s victory.

    More people than that swarm Times Square on New Years Eve.

    About a third of that number attend the Super Bowl.

    Around 250000 people? Thats about .07% of our nation’s total population. I don’t think the cons are quite ready to storm the Bastille.

    The Indy 500 has about that number of attendees in May.

    I suppose it could be said that if 250000 people attended in the flesh, another million or two attended in spirit. Still pretty small potatos.

    The approval ratings continue to climb for Obama despite the supposed “swell” of opposition in the conservative ranks.

    What I want to know is: Who’s gonna clean up all those damn tea bags? Do fish like tea? Would they prefer it sweetened? Do we have a Bastille?


  • Baby, we’got ourselves a movement.

  • Lumpy

    glenn needs some math help. most estimates are more like 2 million protestors nationwide.

  • So Glenn,

    You’ve made your move, you rascal. I’m sure you’ll be happy,

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dave –

    Hi – I’m back from the Republican paradise overseas (I’ll blog about that later), and I’m SO eager to jump back in!

    Wow! Over a quarter million people attended the ‘tea parties’…if all the protests nationwide are added up.

    But you know what? The Conservatives LOST the election…and while a quarter million protesters in a single protest is quite newsworthy, the fact that the number could only be arrived at after adding up the nationwide totals…which fact truly dilutes the overall significance.

    Not only that, but most current polls show that a greater majority of Americans approve of the job Obama’s doing than voted for him in the first place…which SHOULD tell you that he is winning over hundreds of thousands of independents AND Republicans who didn’t vote for him at all.

    And what do the conservatives have now? The elected governor of Texas – a taxpayer-paid government official – is talking secession!

    That’s REAL patriotism, isn’t it? Come to think of it, that’s YOUR state. Gee, I have to wonder what you would call it if a DEMOCRATIC governor were to mention secession – would the Republicans be screaming for federal charges of sedition? You betcha!

    But this is a Republican governor. So much for the Republican claim to be the party of law and order….

  • I prefer coffee.

    [takes sip]

    I’m sorry. What were we talking about?

  • As usual, Bliffle has it half right. The right half is where he repeats what I said earlier, that the Boston Tea Party and these modern immitations are NOT about Taxes. They’re about government economic policy.

    But he’s dead wrong with the BEIC to WalMart comparison. It makes no sense at all. The problem with the BEIC was not its ubiquitousness — which is where people take issue with WalMart — but the special privileges which it was granted by the crown. That is why it’s such a great comparison to the current situation, because the Tea Act was a big fat bailout for the BEIC paid for at the expense of American consumers. So in fact, in objecting to bailouts the new tea parties are objecting to exactly the same kind of thing that the original tea-partiers were. But WalMart has zero to do with it.


  • Dan

    ” I can’t think of a state I’d rather see secede from the union than Texas”—Baritone

    It would be nice to have an option if things continue to slide socialist. you’d probably need to read the tea leaves ahead of time before Liberals build some kind of iron curtain to keep Conservatives from immigrating.

    Humorous sign at tea party: “Buy American dogs” in reference I guess to the Portugese something or other the Obama’s recently “rescued”.

    Forgive my ignorance, and I’m not sure I even want to know, but what is this reference to “tea bagging” that the MSM finds snicker worthy? I assume it is a sexual act or reference?

  • bliffle

    Of course, the wingnuts and their faithful acolytes (Nalle, Archie, etc., you know the names) as well as the Ambiguous Duo Pablo, have got it all wrong.

    The original Boston Tea Party was NOT about taxes and spending, it was about favoritism to the British Crowns favorite corporation, the rapacious and abusive British East India Company (BEIC), which was trying to stamp out small Yankee entrepeneurs with the power of their Crown-backed monopoly.

    The BEIC was the 18th century precursor of Wal-Mart, demolishing competitors ruthlessly.

    Boston Tea Party

    The Real Boston Tea Party was Against the Wal-Mart of the 1770s

    CNBC Correspondent Rick Santelli called for a “Chicago Tea Party” on Feb 19th in protesting President Obama’s plan to help homeowners in trouble. Santelli’s call was answered by the right-wing group Freedomworks, which funds campaigns promoting big business interests, and is the opposite of what the real Boston Tea Party was. FreedomWorks was funded in 2004 by Dick Army (former Republican House Majority leader & lobbyist); consolidated Citizens for a Sound Economy, funded by the Koch family; and Empower America, a lobbying firm, that had fought against healthcare and minimum-wage efforts while hailing deregulation.

    Anti-tax “tea party” organizers are delivering one million tea bags to a Washington, D.C., park Wednesday morning – to promote protests across the country by people they say are fed up with high taxes and excess spending.

    The real Boston Tea Party was a protest against huge corporate tax cuts for the British East India Company, the largest trans-national corporation then in existence. This corporate tax cut threatened to decimate small Colonial businesses by helping the BEIC pull a Wal-Mart against small entrepreneurial tea shops, and individuals began a revolt that kicked-off a series of events that ended in the creation of The United States of America.

    They covered their faces, massed in the streets, and destroyed the property of a giant global corporation. Declaring an end to global trade run by the East India Company that was destroying local economies, this small, masked minority started a revolution with an act of rebellion later called the Boston Tea Party.

  • Roger writes:

    “It’s really pathetic that the conservative movement doesn’t have anyone of greater stature and gravity than Glenn Back and the cohorts. It shows the extent to which our political process had deteriorated – to the level of mere entertainment.”

    That’s because they don’t have a record they’d be proud to run on. If you have to go back to Reagan to find a “leader”, you have to realize that the vast majority of people under 25 don’t even remember those years. The President they most associate with “conservativism” is George W. Bush, and that’s not a great association.


  • This may be apropos of nothing, but I can’t think of a state I’d rather see secede from the union than Texas as the illustrious Governor Perry has suggested. Texas deserves itself. I think it would be great if all the gunsters and all the nations ultra conservatives moved there. If it gets too crowded, ya’ll can have Oklahoma too.

    B 🙂

  • Well, this doesn’t dispel any of my illusions because my view is that most people are by an large incoherent.

    It’s really pathetic that the conservative movement doesn’t have anyone of greater stature and gravity than Glenn Back and the cohorts. It shows the extent to which our political process had deteriorated – to the level of mere entertainment.

    These “tea parties” have the real potential of becoming real and meaningful – on analogy, perhaps, with Ross Perot’s “town-meetings.” But I am afraid the opportunity is being squandered by what you say is the prevailing hoopla and circus-like atmosphere.

    And just at the time when citizens’involvement and participation in the political process are most needed. What a pity!

    If I was of a conservative mindset, and younger, I surely would have liked to step in because the opportunity is ripe. The fact that no one seems capable of turning this into positive experience only tells of no leadership quality.

    Everyone’s in for the buck, the country is secondary.

  • I think all it took for Fox to get involved was an awareness that people would watch their programming and ads if they put tea party stories on the air. MSNBC and CNN conversely realized that their audiences would stick around if they made fun of the tea parties and said ‘teabagging’ with a snicker a great deal.

    I know a lot of the people involved in organizing the tea parties both nationwide and locally. As far as I’ve been able to tell they just did the usual plugging in the direction of the media and Fox jumped on the bandwagon pretty much of its own accord – with a lot of the credit for that going to Glenn Beck, who does at least seem to be paying attention to the grassroots, even if he’s a bizarre, weeping lunatic.

    IMO the whole thing was very poorly thought out and misdirected. They played into the hands of the hostile media, presented a confusing and unclear message and largely blew a great opportunity. It was interesting to see the energy, anger and enthusiasm, but between total lack of cohesion and the circuslike media atmosphere the result was far from optimal.


  • Doc,

    If they made a quarter mil a year or more, why would they participate?

    Tell me the truth. Wasn’t it a Joe the Plumber kind of crowd?

  • Most of the participants at the tea party here in Fresno seemed to be upset about tax hikes, although by the look of the sign-wavers I doubt that any of them makes over $250,000 a year.

    Regarding waste, if there is any tea left over I’ll have some. There’s no problem that can’t be mitigated by a nice cup of tea.

    As for the original Tea Party, everyone is aware, aren’t they, that it was the world’s first public relations event and not a spontaneous popular uprising?

  • I’ve always argued that America is the most dynamic country on the face of the earth, for which I got my head bashed. And you didn’t come in to help.

    But seriously, it is an interesting development. Who would have foreseen there could be the makings here of a mass movement?

    It surely transcends Nixon’s (or Agnew’s) notion of the silent majority. Let’s just say that the world is an oyster. I’m in for the ride.

  • The most interesting part for me is the bit we know least about – how it jumped from some heavy weight Republican blog sites to the top floor of Fox News.

    I can tell you their coverage cost a fortune and was a well considered decision, and not one commits that amount of resource to without some form of profit motive. Why did Fox make this decision, which may have turned out to be reckless in as much as they clearly abandoned the “fair and balanced” they hung so tenuously too.

    It was a big decision for Fox – who twisted the arms and how do they have that much power with a major msm broadcaster?

  • Good observations, Aetius. So the Internet is of effect.

    We may have yet “our little revolution.”

  • I completely understand where Pablo is coming from on this, however I also believe Dave is right in his assessment (good reporting anyway Dave).

    The “Tea Party” movement, as best as I can tell, started as a series of unrelated issue protests as Pablo rightly points out. Santelli however, had a national pulpit that he used for a mortgage plan rant, at the very end of which he mentioned the words “Tea Party”.

    The rant went viral, and a whole whack of internet bloggers picked up the Tea Party theme.

    Conservative bloggers shaped the subsequent organization, and enlisted Fox News as the media arm.

    MSNBC jumped in ’cause it had to answer Fox.

    So it’s a really fascinating tale all around, and a great example of grass roots to internet to politics to media circus. Someone here should do an article on the process as it could use some research.

  • Right. You might intersperse the media reporting with your own impressions. The article would virtually write itself.

  • I may if I have time. Not going to repeat the article I wrote on my own site, but now that I’ve seen some of the incredibly biased media reporting there’s more to be said.


  • Well, you might consider then doing a follow-up, more on the subjective side, giving your own impressions from the conversations you had, etc., giving it a personal touch.


  • Yes, Roger. I attended the one in Austin. I took the photos that accompany the article. For a more detailed report on the Austin Tea Party see The Republic of Dave. I guess my efforts to make this article as straight newsy as possible went a bit too far.


  • But Dave,

    Have you personally attended one of those rallies? It’s not clear to me.


  • Regarding the signs, yes many of the same slogans were repeated — though far less than I expected. But these are people going to the same rally who presumably drew on the same sources of information on the web or radio to find out about it, and heard the same slogans being repeated.

    What it was NOT like was some of the protests I’ve been to organized by left-leaning groups where posters had been printed in advance and were being handed out by organizers as people arrived. Very common practice in union organized protests, for example.


  • Meanings always are, Mark; otherwise we might have a perfect world. It’s interesting you’re saying “not strictly partisan.”

    Now, that might make an interesting topic, putting a different spin on things. I would be interested to hear it, because they seem to be spreading like wildfire. So I’m giving you my vote of confidence.

  • I think Glen Beck would be annoyed at being called “right wing” along Hannity and Malkin. He is obviously an independent with allegiance to neither party.

    I wish I could have attended one, but someone has to work. There was a huge gathering in front of the Royal Oak Post Office, but there is EVERY tax day. (It’s also a good spot to camp out if you’re a radical liberal.)

  • M a( )r k

    Rog, I chatted with a bunch of the folks which is how I determined that it wasn’t a strictly partisan event. (I’d write something up, but I fear that my meaning would be misunderstood…WINK)

  • Mark,

    Since you’ve attended one, why didn’t you interview some people when there? I sure as hell would have.

    Would make a nice piece for BC.

  • M a( )r k

    About 100 people showed up for Taos’ tea party — the crowd was made up of Dems, Indies and Repubs. Elected and running pols were well represented. Ex-gov Gary Jonhson showed up to recommend that everyone get a copy of the Constitution and spend the 20 minutes it takes to actually read it.

    I’d post my pictures of the gathering, but they all came out too blurry…I was, after all, on my second cup of Taos Tea by the time I got out my camera.

    Dave — the signs in Taos were the same ones that were used at the other parties around the country. A somewhat more coordinated effort than you imply.

  • Archie,

    You’re wasting your time on this thread. Go instead there and post your comments. That’s where conservatives like you are needed. And heart-bleeding liberals, too. I mean it. And bring H&C with you.

  • Jordan Richardson

    [Response to personal attack deleted with mild amazement that you responded to it by Comments Editor]

    Every so often your bitterness is amusing, kid, but when you cross the line into insanity it really begins to get a bit hard to take. Tell me where I’ve been defended your illustrious “King Barry” or where I’ve done anything beyond crack a few jokes about the idiotic “tea parties.”

    And while you’re re-reading my posts to get a firm grasp of what I’ve been REALLY critiquing, perhaps you can respond to some of my points instead of hiding behind your usual talking points and fear-peddling.

    Now, Archibald, I addressed some pretty significant aspects up there between the jokes. The irony of the tea parties, for instance, could be addressed by you but you choose not to.

    [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]

  • Arch Conservative

    I never finished that thought because Janet Noplitano has been walking around outside my house all morning in a trench coat and pair of groucho glasses.

    It should have been……… “when we have mr media creation “yes we can” and “change we can believe in” in the white house pretending to lead and pretending to give a damn.”

    [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]

    But hey don’t let them get in the way of discussing the things that really matter, the things that are really current, and bearing down on the minds of all the John and Suzie Q publics out there… like comparing and contrasting Prescott Bush and Adolph Hitler.

    It’s only been three months but I’m sure you can muster up some [Edited] defense of King Barry’s performance using some brilliant combination of the words “hope” and “change” for old time sake Jordan.

    Don’t dissappoint us bro!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Arch, do you sincerely believe that Obama is trying to make everybody poor (apparently by cutting taxes for 95% of the population) or do you disagree with his policies?

    In other words, what facts do you have to back the assertion that your president is “doing his damndest” to “spend you all into pauper’s graves?” And if it’s not too personal, how much poorer have you become in the past few months?

  • Jordan Richardson

    Even in the vaunted electronically village, lines do cross!

    No doubt about it, dude. I should have explained myself better initially. I apologize.

    It’s amusing watching Jordan slam the tea party people claiming all they have is slogans when we have mr media creation “yes we can” and “change we can beleive.”

    This is amusing because…I’m….BARACK OBAMA? Oh my fucking Christ, secret’s out! Everybody hide!

  • Arch Conservative

    It’s amusing watching Jordan slam the tea party people claiming all they have is slogans when we have mr media creation “yes we can” and “change we can beleive.” Talk about the pot and the kettle.

    [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]

    King Barry’s court jesters are labelling iraq war vets “dangerous rightwing extremists” while he’s doing his damndest to spend us all into pauper’s graves and the more than half the posts on this thread have been dedicated to bashing Prescott Bush. [Edited]

  • Jordan, you were typing your comment #17 at the same time I was typing my comment #18. Even in the vaunted electronically village, lines do cross!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Honestly, if my ability to simplistically assess various brands of evil is the last line of defence Canada has to the “infestation,” I’d say we’re already pretty much fucked. I do hope it’s kind of like Starship Troopers, only with a little more Denise Richards and a lot less Dina Meyer.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Read #17 before you unload your condescension, Ruvy.

    My point is about the LINGUISTIC LAZINESS of merely comparing the crimes of one to the crimes of another.

    Let’s just say if the “evil” sets out to “infest” us Canucks, I won’t be standing around wasting time comparing it to Hitler…

  • Pablo/Ruvy, I honestly don’t care. Sorry.

    All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing, Jordan. So, the evil will succeed south of your border, and may infest you north of the border – because you honestly don’t care.

    Good work, Jordan! Good work!

  • Jordan Richardson

    Actually, I’ll tell you both why I don’t care.

    Ruvy, you’re addressing a point I’m not making. When you ask about who’s to blame, all of those fucking jackasses are to blame. But where does comparing them, especially in slogan format, get you? It’s cute, I’ll give you that, but it certainly also downgrades the details of the atrocities to a simple “hey, you’re Hitler” simplicity. As I said earlier: what’s the point in that? Judge each individual on his/her own merits without comparing them to Hitler/Jesus.

    And Pablo, I knew all of that already. I recently reviewed a massive tome on the Bush Dynasty by Russ Baker and have been observing that family for quite some time. Believe it or not, I do have *some* clue as to what I’m talking about here. It may not always come across that way, but hey.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Jordan, please don’t discourage people from spending money. The economy needs it.

    Certainly not my intention; merely pointing out obvious irony of this notion. I certainly advocate spending more, even and perhaps especially on tea. The notion of buying a million bags of it to dump on a lawn without even having properly set it up first (no permit) is hard to ignore in its hilarity.

    Pablo/Ruvy, I honestly don’t care. Sorry.

  • “Reportedly the largest turnout was in Atlanta where 15,000 showed up to protest.”

    You failed to mention that Sean Hannity was broadcasting from Atlanta, which no doubt helped inflate the numbers. People like being on TV.

    “these people bought a million bags of tea to protest ‘wasteful spending.'”

    Jordan, please don’t discourage people from spending money. The economy needs it.

  • zingzing

    so… a bunch of angry people gather together to make large batches of weak tea… and this is to protest… waste… hmm…

    conclusion #1: republicans are stupid.

    conclusion #2: y’all got some hopped-up river fish to fry, so it’s not all bad.

    conclusion #3: how funny would it be to ask a busload of angry republicans where they’re going and they reply, “to the tea party, faggot.” yes, that is a statement. it’s not a question.

  • pablo

    I might add Ruvy that the Muslim Brotherhood was and is a nazi fascist front group. For those of you that think that the nazis are a thing of the past I suggest that you google the odessa network, or the Bormann flight capital network. National Socialism (nazi) is very much alive, indeed anti fascist researcher Dave Emory has called this group the underground Reich and writes extensively about it,and its tentacles inside the US government.

  • pablo


    Incidentally Prescott bush was named by Smedley Butler as one of the co-CONSPIRATORS,(hey I like that word) of the attempted fascist coup in 1934.

  • Jordan,

    Ibn-Saud and Hitler were direct creators of evil. Prescott Bush and his friends at the Union Bank were mere enablers of the ibn-Saud and Hitler. Were it not for Bush, both Hitler and ibn-Saud would have had a much harder time doing the evil they have done. So who you’re going to blame, the carter that runs over the kid, or the guy who greases the wheel of the cart, knowing of the carter’s intent to run over the kid?

  • pablo

    No Jordan Prescott was not Hitler, he aided Hitler, thus he was a fascist just like his son and grandkid are.

  • Jordan Richardson

    Pablo, no matter how evil I find Prescott Bush, he’s not Hitler. Making comparisons like that are simply silly. This isn’t Political Celebrity Deathmatch.

  • Jordan Richardson

    And c’mon, you’ve got people calling Obama a “fascist” AND a “socialist.” Really?

    Never mind the further irony that these protests against socialism and wealth redistribution took place in public parks that were funded by the…public using…wealth redistribution…*gasp* THAT’S SOCIALISM!!!

    This is basically a game of “you can’t win because I have to win.” It happens all the time. The idea is to simply do the opposite of your opponent, no matter what the consequences and what the causes. But go ahead, America, show the rest of us why we should all be SO envious of how you roll.

    We’re all impressed, teabaggers.

  • pablo


    Too bad you can’t ask the last statement of yours to the late Senator Prescott Bush buddy. The historical record says otherwise.

  • Jordan Richardson

    I’m pretty sure that in most cases the movement comes first, then the slogans.

    We’re not talking about most cases, though. We’re talking about this one. With FOX announcing coverage of this “spontaneous” movement across the country and others doing the same and guys like Glenn Beck virtually providing the placards on which ignorant individuals could scrawl their moronic slogans, it’s a little difficult to take you at your word.

    I know you want to attach some sort of significance to this notion of civil unrest, to suggest that the people are sick and tired of this, etc. But that’s really not what’s going on here at all.

    What is going on is more desperate politics as a party grasps at straws in an attempt to figure out what to do next. This idiotic “tea party” is made all the more ironic by the fact that these people bought a million bags of tea to protest “wasteful spending.”

    And for the record, anyone comparing any American politician, even Bush, to Hitler is a complete and utter jackass.

  • pablo

    A typical Dave rant.And as usual you are so wrong, and not man enough to admit your mistake.

  • I’m pretty sure that in most cases the movement comes first, then the slogans. And as you can tell from the accompanying photos, these are hand made signs with the slogans people thought up all on their own on them. Like you find in any grassroots movement. I didn’t see any in Austin with Obama/Hitler comparisons, but given the popularity of comparing everyone to Hitler I’m sure some exist. Perhaps they recycled all the used Bush/Hitler signs.


  • Jordan Richardson

    It’s a fiscal responsibility and government reform movement first.

    Oh. So it’s not a movement based on quirky slogans and placards that compare Obama to Hitler? Is that also the MSM’s fault?

  • Pablo, neither I nor anyone else in the mainstream community gives a rat’s ass about some 9/11 tea party in 2006. Ask anyone involved in todays tea parties and they will agree that the inspiration was the original Boston Tea Party in 1773. The 9/11 delusion movement doesn’t have some special claim to that inspiration.

    The truth is that the current Tea Parties got started when Santelli made his comments a couple of months ago and that is the specific moment at which this movement got started.

    And you have apparently been brainwashed by the MSM to repeat the meme that this is an anti-tax movement, which is their way of minimizing its significance. In fact, taxes are a minor element. It’s a fiscal responsibility and government reform movement first.


  • pablo

    [Edited] The truth is that the modern tea party movement was not started by Rick Santelli at all but by the 9/11 truth movement over 3 years ago. Actually Nalle is typical of many right wing pundits of the day that are now trying to jump on the tea party bandwagon, with such esteemed company as Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannnity, and Glenn Beck. Indeed the above pundits are only now trying to jump on the bandwagon of not only the tea party movement, but the sovereignty movement as well, just as Nalle has.

    I would hope since this article is written in the NEWS category and not Opinion or Satire, that Mr. Nalle would edit his article to reflect the true origins of the modern Tea Party movement, however I am not holding my breath. Below is a link to some nationwide Tea parties that originated in 2006, hardly when Santelli got on board.

    True origins of the modern Tea Party movement

    Although it is true that the current Tea Party movement is about taxes, this movement was originally started by 9/11 truthers [Edited].