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I always tell people I have no political party. I am equally distrustful of both parties currently maintaining a stranglehold over our collective political throats. I always say that we should be distrustful of anyone who willingly puts themselves and their families through the hell that our election process has become. If anyone wants power so badly that they offer every secret their children held dear to the public then they cannot be trusted with power. It is that simple to me.

Now I understand that most of those who read my words will not believe this about me. I fit the mold of the quintessential liberal Democrat as described since 2001. I have even played the role for the most part, but my reasons differ from those of most people. I do it because I do not trust a sitting President ever.

The sitting President has been a Republican for as long as most of you have been aware of me and you have only seen me bashing Bush. You did not know me when I was screaming “No War for Monica” or when I swore I would never vote for Gore. You did not know me when I refused to vote in 1996 because I did not trust either candidate with the White House. You have only seen me while the Bushies are assaulting my favorite country (No, not Iraq). Today I have a chance to show you the other side. Today I attack a Democrat.

I did place a vote of support next to John Kerry’s name in the 2004 election. I admit that, but not proudly. I voted for the lesser of two evils to me while still voting for evil. I did not vote FOR John Kerry. I voted for a change, any change. Today I am kind of happy he did not ascend to the White House. Either he is an idiot, a traitor, or both, but a man who says the words he says should not be President.

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” – John Kerry October 30, 2006, Pasadena City College, California.

This statement clearly says that only those who did not do well in school are serving in Iraq today. He is saying that the people in Iraq are the bottom of the American barrel who could aspire to nothing other than mindless servitude in a quagmire. This is beyond not being presidential, this is anti-troop.

Today Kerry claims that he was not speaking about the troops in Iraq, but rather was taking another jab at Bush and the White House. He says that Bush did not do his homework before going to Iraq and that is what he means. The problem that I have with this defense is that I am fluent in English. There is nothing there that even hints at Bush.

I watched Kerry debate Bush three times in 2004. I saw Kerry wipe the floor with Bush three times in 2004. I saw Kerry direct attacks at Bush with no room for spin or innuendo. He is a man who says exactly what he means to say and always has. He was not talking at all about Bush when he said those words. He was using Iraq to scare the kids attending the college he was speaking at into doing better in school.

Marge: [to Bart] Now we have to find another school for you.
Homer: And if you get kicked out of that one, you’re going straight in the Army, where you’ll be sent straight to America’s latest military quagmire.
-The Simpsons

Kerry thinks, like I used to until recently, of the military as a last resort for those who failed at everything else. He has always looked down his nose at everyone else, including while he served, so it does not surprise me for him to believe he is above the average intelligence of the military. I was wrong in my belief and realized that after September 11th.

Those who serve in the military are people who put country above all else and that is not a reflection of their success or intelligence. The truth is that I could not handle the military and I know it. I am also very thankful to every single person who has volunteered to protect my pacifist derriere. I realize I can be a pacifist because there are those willing to die for me.

Kerry screwed up royally yesterday in his speech at Pasadena City College. He must have a foot fetish or something the way he jammed it in his mouth. He got carried away with his elitist attitude while speaking to a lowly community college and let slip his belief that the military are a lower class than he is.

I cannot say I am unhappy about this turn of events either to be honest. I would love the nationally known names from both parties to retire in disgrace and let the Congress return to serving those it was intended to serve: the people. Party over country is my definition of treason.

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  • Mary Rosh

    Goddamn, are you a professional moron, or just a gifted amateur? The ONLY POSSIBLE meaning of someone who could get “stuck in Iraq” is a reference to our soldiers? There’s NO ONE else whom that description could fit? A reference to someone who didn’t use his education and do his homework, and therefore got stuck in Iraq HAS to mean that an uneducated person would be forced to become a soldier and get stuck in Iraq?

    And that’s the only possible meaning of those remarks, in a talk which included this:

    The Massachusetts senator, who is considering another presidential run in 2008, had opened his speech at Pasadena City College with several one-liners, joking at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now “lives in a state of denial.”

    ?????

    When you refer to someone getting “stuck” or “bogged down”, you can’t possibly be referring to a general or commander???

    No, what happened, obviously, was that Kerry was referring to Bush’s various failings that led him to get stuck in Iraq, the Republicans deliberately misinterpreted the remarks as an attack on our soldiers, because they routinely try to use our troops as shields to deflect criticism away from themselves.

    [Personal attack deleted]

  • http://kanrei.blogspot.com brad schader

    Your hostility needs medication. Calm down, start over and we can discuss.

  • http://progmanreviews.blogspot.com Kyle

    It is equally obvious to me that Kerry was NOT talking about the troops in Iraq as it apparently was to you that he was. Kerry served in Vietnam, was he an idiot? Assigning the logic that you are on his statements is inconsistent with his own history.

    What kind of politician goes out and insults the troops in Iraq that has a lick of sense. Kerry may not always deliver a bashing well but he is not stupid. He was bashing Bush, it was worded poorly but that’s what he was doing.

  • http://kanrei.blogspot.com brad schader

    Kyle,
    Kerry used the military. He used it to get elected. It was a tool to him. He has no respect for any of the people serving. It was not his intent to say the troops were stupid, but he was also not attacking Bush. He exposed his belief that college students are above soldiers.
    “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

    If you study you do well. If you do not you end up stuck in Iraq. It was a plea for the students he was talking about to take education seriously. He just happened to insult the troops while he did it.

  • Clavos

    When one considers Kerry’s testimony before Congress in 1971, in which he viciously (and falsely) slandered all of us who served in Vietnam, the ONLY correct interpretation of his latest remarks that fits is exactly what you have said in this article, Brad.

    John Kerry is arrogant, contemptuous and condescending in his attitudes towards America’s military, and he’s demonstrated that for 35 years.

  • Rob Silver

    The paragraph you site from the speech is taken out of context. Oldest trick in the book. The media was too lazy to pick up on it, and bought the story hook line & sinker from the RNC. But at this point the ‘merican people catch on even if the media dont. They’re tired of being tricked and left holding the bag by Bush et al.

  • SFC SKI

    Excellent article! This quote, “Today I am kind of happy he did not ascend to the White House.”, mirrors my sentinments exactly. I have served under several Presidents, and while I have respectfully served them all, I also know which ones returned their genuine respect. I ma so thankful Sen. Kerry did not become Commander in Chief in 2004. He has no respect for those who serve, and I think he has no respect for the American public as a whole. Everything he says appears to me either to be opportunistic pandering, or thinly veiled elitist arrogance. It’s even evident in his tone of voice from his Vietnam testimony. Sen. Kerry served in Vietnam as an officer, but in his testimony, did he ever once express what he personally tried to do to stop the actions that so disgusted him?

    I am apolitical, because I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States and to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me.
    All I ask is that everyone votes wisely, and not merely for political partisanship, in this and every election.

  • http://progmanreviews.blogspot.com Kyle

    Brad,
    Your comment that Kerry has no respect for anyone serving in the military is preposterous.
    The man who has no respect for those serving is currently biting his fingernails in the white house praying to his war-mongering god that his rubber-stamp doesn’t get taken away from him in november.

  • SFC SKI

    Kyle, I have met President Bush, I believe he respects the troops. I also don’t believe he thoughlessly sends us into harm’s way.

  • Sylvia Muffaleto

    Sorry, but I have to vote for the choice left out. C) The writer of this piece is an idiot.

    “Kerry thinks, like I used to until recently, of the military as a last resort for those who failed at everything else.”

    There’s your problem, aside from the fact that you are using The Simpsons to inform your politics, you are projecting your thoughts onto Kerry. You are the one who used to be anti-troop, so spare everyone your guilt transfer.

    Have you ever heard of context? You weren’t there and you didn’t hear the entire speech. If you take one sentence out of a speech, you can twist it into anything you like, but that doesn’t make you correct. Kerry was talking about the President to start his speech, so when did he change subjects? Are only soldiers stuck in Iraq or is it the whole country? And if everyone in the military is stuck in Iraq, you might want to tell all those serving elsewhere that they are AWOL.

    “He is a man who says exactly what he means to say and always has.”

    You mean like voting for money for the war before he voted against? But your right, he did say exactly what he meant. He just didn’t realize how easily morons are manipulated by the political machines.

    “If you study you do well. If you do not you end up stuck in Iraq.”

    That’s incorrect because it’s a volunteer army, or have all the unemployed been shanghaied into the service?

    You are an embarrassment.

  • http://progmanreviews.blogspot.com Kyle

    SFC SKI,
    Of course I don’t know the level of your relationship with Dubya, but I’m guessing you shook his hand in a line. Even if you’re Barbara posting under some other name, I judge Bush’s concern for the people in the military by his actions. The simple fact that he sent our people to be killed in a country that posed NO THREAT to us is enough for me to judge his depth of concern.

  • MCH

    “When one considers Kerry’s testimony before Congress in 1971, in which he viciously (and falsely) slandered all of us who served in Vietnam, the ONLY correct interpretation of his latest remarks that fits is exactly what you have said in this article, Brad.”
    – Clavvy

    But had he DESERTED from the Guards, and then lied about it 28 years later while campaigning, it’d be non-sequitur.

    “John Kerry is arrogant, contemptuous and condescending in his attitudes towards America’s military, and he’s demonstrated that for 35 years.”
    – Clavvy

    So is he worse than William Calley?

  • SFC SKI

    Kyle, I don’t claim a close relationship to the President.

    For you to say Iraq was no threat to our country is to exhibit ignorance of the histroy of the US and Iraq from August 1990 until March 2003, as well as the former Iraqi in the region during that time.

  • Figment

    Seriously guys, I hate to say “think outside the box”, but the closest thing to a one party dictatorship is a two party democracy. It’s just two parties taking turns dictating. Where is your choice? A minority government would make things less argumentive, less vicious, and more democratic, but that would just be un-American, huh?

    And no minority government doesn’t mean a government full of blacks. Don’t be afraid, look it up.

  • C.P.T.L.

    The facts aren’t straight here. When you want to discuss what someone “clearly” said, you quote them in context, both in the context of what they were saying, and what they say overall. And he said plenty that both “hints at Bush” and refers to him directly both before and after his mistaken remark. You can nit-pick at the quote or apply your mind sensibly. The man mis-spoke from notes and the notes clearly indicate Bush. Kerry was talking about this draft-dodging administration’s failure to do right by our troops. Any fair examination of his speech will prove it.

  • http://www.malottblog.blogspot.com Malott

    John Kerry is “stuck on Vietnam” and the 60’s -where if you didn’t go to college and make your grades, you got drafted. I think this explanation fits Kerry’s words better than simply “a quip gone awry” that was meant for Bush.

    You can’t ignore Kerry’s rich and proud history of trashing the American soldier.

  • Arch Conservative

    Yeah John Kerry’s a douchebag alright. But what can we expect? He learned from the best, the “Hero of Chappaquiddac” himself.

    John Kerry loves the troops so much that he could see nothing in his 20 plus year Senate career to run on in 2004 but instead stood on the graves of 59K dead American soldiers who died in a 30 year old war and said “Vote for me because I’m a war hero and that’s all you need to know about me.”

    This guy is seriously thinking about another run for the oval office? Didn’t he have enough humiliation and punishment the first time around?

  • Maurice

    Well written, Brad. Every once in a while our elected servants actually say what they really think and it is disturbing.

    Your most meaningful sentence for me:

    …we should be distrustful of anyone who willingly puts themselves and their families through the hell that our election process…

    Kind of like “I would never join a club that would have me as a member”. -Groucho

  • Ebony Ghost

    I’m glad someone mentioned the D word before me. The man is in a position to know if the answer to meeting the recruiting quotas by repeatedly lowering the goal is to reinstate the draft. Once the election is over, we’ll be back to admitting that this war is going to take years to complete. Perhaps this was your first hint.

  • Les Slater

    Figment #14

    “A minority government would make things less argumentive, less vicious, and more democratic,…”

    Minority government? Both parties are owned lock, stock and barrel, by a wealthy minority. They run the government. We have a minority government

    We need a majority party, a majority government.

  • Gomez

    People get bent over a comment Kerry makes, but are comfortable with a blunderous foreign policy that has resulted in the deaths of 640,000 Iraqi and nearly 3,000 of our soldiers in pursuit of WMD that never materialized. Go figure.

  • Mike

    Exactly!

    Hmm I wonder who has done more harm to the soldiers? Kerry with his comment, or Bush with his war.

  • Steve

    To: SFC SKI

    First – Thank you for your service to our country.
    Second – I agree with your comments regarding Brad’s article and retorts to the other comments. Kerry said what he meant and those that suggest he was a victim of “out of context” are fooling themselves. My favorite line from this string is yours:

    “For you to say Iraq was no threat to our country is to exhibit ignorance of the histroy of the US and Iraq from August 1990 until March 2003, as well as the former Iraqi in the region during that time.”

    Exactly.

  • Steve B

    Kerry’s statement did not surprise me at all. I firmly agree with Brad that Kerry spoke circles around Bush during the debates in 2004…Bush has great planned speeches; but lacks in the improv department. Kerry is a person well aware of what he says. This quote was NOT taken out of context. I dont understand how someone that has served can disrespect those currently serving. maybe he is still bitter about how he almost offed himself with that grenade in Vietnam. Idiot.

  • Alix

    I respect your honesty. Since this is not the first time that Kerry has insulted the troops shows this is his thinking. This also goes with the same pattern with the liberals such as Bill Mahr who also said that troops are stupid. Kerry on Meet The Press, said the troops were a terror on Iraqi women and children. He believes this and should stand behind his comments.

  • http://kanrei.blogspot.com brad schader

    I love reading the comments. Thank you for the kind words from those in agreement or those who think I am wrong.
    Screw you to all who left the insults. You obviously cannot read very well. I am very clearly NOT a Bush supporter nor am I a supporter of the war in Iraq. ANYONE who reads what I wrote can see that.
    The fact remains that Kerry was making a speech about education, not Bush. You want to talk context then provide some if you say I got it wrong.
    Yesterday he said it was a slam on Bush, today he tells Imus it was a botched joke. What will it be tomrrow?

  • http://www.blogger.com Georgio

    well the GOP and the media can have fun with this Kerry blunder even though it was not what he meant but it was not the most important thing that happened yesterday..what was important was SADAR TELLING MALIKI TO REMOVE THE ROADBLOCKS OR ELSE..it’s THE SECOND TIME IN TWO WEEKS THAT THE IRAQI PM HAS TOLD BUSH TO GO FUCK YOURSELF…
    our troops where searching for a missing soldier and a most wanted terrorist who is hiding in Sardar territory..It’s just another sign of what’s to come which is the Shites ruling the country with Islam religious fanatics and telling Bush to get out as soon as you have trained and armed Iraq with American weapons . at that time Americans will know when it is too late that our soldiers have died for nothing …Thank you George Bush !

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Shame on the media. Shame on the politicians. What did John Kerry say that was so bad? Are we a nation that’s so afraid to speak the truth that we have to sanitize every little utterance? That’s not a free society, folks. The Bush Administration is a complete disaster and we have allowed it to continue. Congress is filled with inept opportunists who don’t give a rat’s ass about their respective constituencies. In six days Americans can send a resou8nding message to Washington that enough is enough. Will it happen? Nope.

  • Arch Conservative

    “Hmm I wonder who has done more harm to the soldiers? Kerry with his comment, or Bush with his war.”

    And yet who do the majority of the military agree with, support and respect, Bush or Kerry?

    It’s always funny watching liberals rave about their support for the troops when in reality the troops could care less if they have the support of the American left.

    The fact is that the majority of the military votes GOP and holds traditional conservative values. The don’t share the beliefs of the Nancy Pelosi’s and John Kerry’s of the world nor do they need these people to speak for them. Maybe this is so because the military is made up of poor unenlightened, unprogressive, non-liberal troglodytes who can’t think for themselves or be trusted to act in their own interests. Is it such a stretch for one to think that this is really what Kerry had in mind? God knows he wouldn’t be the first leftist to hold this view.

  • Alix

    Everyone has the right to say whatever they please, but when you live by the polls you die by the polls. He is afraid to say this is what he meant because he still wants to run for President. He believed that the audience he was speaking too was so far left also that no one would disagree or notice what he said. People have been removed from office for saying botched jokes i.e. Trent Lott. John Kerry’s problem is he needs a poll to tell him what to do and say.

  • Alix

    Brad Schader: I don’t agree with you politically, but I respect when someone admits when their side screws up. I admit to Bush screwing up with government spending. Brad, continue to call it straight down the middle.

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    Kerry’s a coward. Today he back pedals and cancels his appearances. To me John Kerry is another George W. Bush. Both are more useless than testicles on a Republican.

  • Arch Conservative

    Testicles on a republican?

    Isn’t the Dem party the mommy party and the GOP the daddy party?

    You know… when you need an excuse, a pat on the head, someone to tell you that nothing is your fault and that “feelings” are the only thing that matters you have the Dems.

    But when you wanna kick a little ass, get shit done, have someone tell you when you’re being a dumbass and you’re messing up….. you have the GOP.

    What good are testicles to a lib…….unless they are being licked by a “domestic partner.”

  • http://biggesttent.blogspot.com/ Silas Kain

    And it’s a licking that keeps on ticking, Oedipus Arch. Now that we know your real feelings on “mommy” it explains so much. Where’s Sigmund when you need him most?

  • MCH

    “It’s always funny watching liberals rave about their support for the troops when in reality the troops could care less if they have the support of the American left.”
    – Arch/Bing

    Kerry’s military record:
    **3 Purple Hearts
    **1 Silver Star
    **1 Bronze Star

    Archie’s military record:
    **None (didn’t serve)

  • Lumpy

    For me it became clear what kerry intended with his comment when his people issued their ‘clarification’ of what he said and it was a blatant fabrication which bore no possible relationship to his actual words. An obvious CYA attempt to rewrite reality.

  • Baronius

    Brad, I respect you for throwing rocks at both parties. I find myself on the opposite side on the Kerry story, just as I disagreed about the Lynne Cheney comment.

    Does Kerry believe he’s better than everyone else? Sure. He looks down on the troops; he looked down on them when he was in Vietnam. But Kerry’s comment falls in line with another phenomenon I’ve observed, the unfunny Bush-is-dumb joke.

    Last night, Letterman opened with a Halloween joke about Hillary wearing an orange and black pants suit. Bad joke, polite laughter. The second joke was about a confused W lighting a menorah. Slightly funnier, sloppy delivery, but you would have thought the audience just saw Blazing Saddles for the first time.

    Bush-is-dumb jokes don’t need a punch line, and they don’t often make sense. I think what happened to Kerry is, if I may paraphrase an old anti-war slogan, they threw a Bush joke and nobody laughed.

  • Nancy

    Kerry’s statement was stupid, especially coming at this particular time. His attempt to shrug it off was even stupider, responding to desperate GOP attempts to use such a pathetically unimportant situation to turn attention away from Iraq. Bush is even stupider & more pathetic, by trying to claim that Kerry – or anybody – insults & disrespects the troops more than he & his butt-sucking coteries of yes men who gaggle behind him. Bush blithely consigns thousands of US troops to defend a bunch of barbarian, primitive halfwits who don’t want “Democracy” and never did, and he’s fully prepared to consign hundreds of thousands more, to death or mutilation or mental illness, while behind their backs he cuts their medical care when – IF – they get back! Actions speak louder than words, and Bush’s actions are by far the more contemptuous of our troops, and the more contemptible – or should be – to everyone who truly does care for & support them.

    Frankly, I have no use for Kerry. The bastard was too spineless to fight for the 2004 election, & too stupid to avoid falling into Rove’s by now well-known traps of smears, lies, and dirty tricks. But I am glad he finally found the balls to turn around today & tell Bush that no one who was cowardly enough to avoid service in Vietnam – and in Bush’s case, & that of his administration, that covers a HOST of people, from Junior himself & Cheney on down – has any business calling anybody who DID serve disrespectful of the troops. GOOD FOR KERRY, for a change. It’s high time & past time those slandered by Dubya, Cheney, & all those other yellow douchebags called a halt to it, forcefully and nastily, if necessary.

  • SHARK

    Jeezus. What a non-issue. Humorless motards desperate for some pre-election crap on the Dems.

    And THIS is the best they can come up with?

    A semi-humorous shot at Bush/Iraq that has been mis… um… re-interpreted to denigrate the troops in Iraq?

    Oh. My. Gawd.

    B. Shrader: “…Kerry claims that he was not speaking about the troops in Iraq, but rather was taking another jab at Bush and the White House. He says that Bush did not do his homework before going to Iraq and that is what he means. The problem that I have with this defense is that I am fluent in English. There is nothing there that even hints at Bush.”

    Jeezus.

    Fuck.

    If ya gotta explain it… well…

    oh, FUCK.

    …never mind.

    Just keep your eye on the swinging pocketwatch, America.

    ========

    psssst… IRAQ. DISASTER. VIET NAM II.

    Bush.

    Mission Accomplished.

  • Martin Lav

    I think he meant that it’s pretty obvious that Bush couldn’t have done too well in school. He got stuck in Iraq and he can’t speak proper english.
    Yathink?

  • Sylvia Muffaleto

    “Yesterday he said it was a slam on Bush, today he tells Imus it was a botched joke.”

    Why can’t it be both. Maybe it’s that you have trouble with two ideas in your head at the same time. No room for facts when it’s loaded with spin.

    On Rush today, Bush said, and I quote, “Listen to Osama”. Quick, write a misguided, ill-informed, out-of-context post about Bush being a traitor.

  • Dustin Gilds

    I think everyone is missing the bigger picture. The man had to begin his speach on “education” with two, not one, but two jokes personally directed at our president. Instead of focusing on the issue at hand he continued to try and slam the president.

    He did it when he ran and lost against G.W and he has continued to do it ever since his overwhelming defeat.

    Bush-hater or Bush lover you have to respect how the President came out today and focused on the issues instead of bashing the Senator for his completely innapropriate comments.

    I am a former United States Marine. I served before the curren war in Iraq. My brother has served for the last 15 years in the Marine Corps. He led troops in numerous raids in Fallujah and the surrounding Al-Anbar Province as a signals intelligence officer in 2004. “Officer” meaning commissioned with a college degree. He recieved that degree from North Carolina State University through a program that the Marine Corps offered to him after 10 years of enlisted service.

    Life stories aside I think you will see where Im going with this. We entered the military because it provided opportunities for us. It opened doors. It made us better people. It allowed us the possibility that we could continue to gain knowledge for free. Veterans and those serving right now are rapidly being forgotten in a time when they need be commended and supported the most.

    Once again politics are overshadowing what matters the most.

  • Dan

    It’s been a fun week, In a poetic justice sorta way. First, Good natured, fun loving, Rush gets drug through the mud by a biased media turned psycotic in a naked smear job. Then, Kerry steps right in it, by revealing what everyone knows are his true thoughts. He can’t apologize though. Not in any real way. He could say, yea, I’m sorry if you didn’t catch my little joke. But a wolf in sheep’s clothing can never admit he’s a wolf. The jig would be up.

    Rush, on the other hand offered a conditional apology during his “offense”. He noticed, like everyone else, that MJ Fox didn’t have the same exaggerated symptoms in all of his other recent TV appearances. He then went on to say that Fox was either “acting” (a little harsh), or “off his medication” (probably accurate), and then offered the apology (if he was wrong).

    The biased media, of course, ran with the apology angle. Some going as far as saying he has “since” apologized. Confering guilt for a mean-spiritedness that they manufactured.

    Personally I was a little dissapointed in Fox. In the weasel-esque tradition of true liberals, he pointed out that he had *over* medicated, and that was the reason for the exaggerated symptoms. As if that were a distinction that mattered. The definition of is, is… that Fox, and the liberals were doing exactly what Rush claimed. Some would call it acting.

    Personally, I see nothing wrong with Fox’s manipulation of his symptoms. I would equate it with abortion protesters brandishing placards with real aborted fetuses printed on them. It’s fair to manipulate emotions. Just be honorable and stand accountable for what you do.

    Back to Kerry, He supports the troops as far as getting them out of the “horrible mistake” that they’re engaged in in Iraq. But he doesn’t support their mission. It’s a delicate distinction that liberals won’t and can’t admit. It doesn’t sell. The troops do normally support their mission. Their re-enlistment rates demonstrate it. Consequently, they don’t support liberals. The animus is mutual.

    Remember the Florida election counts? Democrats didn’t want to count tardy overseas military ballots. They do discourage tougher legislation to prevent voter fraud with ID’s etc. Why do you think that is?

    Remember the Red/Blue state intelligence map. It was a hoax. Liberals always get caught perpetrating hoaxes and then the issue is forgotten (repressed).

    Military personel, by and large, are the best and the brightest among us. The guys who endager themselves for us, and innocent Iraqi’s are just “the best”. We don’t deserve them, certainly not the liberals. And more certainly, not the Iraqi’s.

  • MCH

    “Military personel, by and large, are the best and the brightest among us. The guys who endager themselves for us, and innocent Iraqi’s are just “the best”. We don’t deserve them, certainly not the liberals. And more certainly, not the Iraqi’s.”

    Rush Limbaugh, who dodged the draft during Vietnam using a medical deferment for a cyst on his ass, doesn’t deserve them, either.

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    John Kerry on Vietnam:

    “they [American military personnel] had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.”

    John Kerry on Iraq:

    “And there is no reason […] that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women […] Iraqis should be doing that.”

    John Kerry this week:

    “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

    This, from a guy who tried to get a student deferment to study in France in an effort to avoid service in Vietnam. When his request for a deferment was denied, he “volunteered” to become a Naval officer, rather than risk being drafted into the Army as infantry.

    When sent to Vietnam, Kerry received three purple hearts, but not a single one of those injuries required so much as a stitch. This gave him the option to leave Vietnam after less than four months, which he gleefully took. He then proceeded to negotiate (in France) with “terrorists” (that’s the term used by his former running mate, John Edwards), despite this being illegal.

    And this was the man the Democrats chose to nominate for President two years ago…

  • http://www.diablog.us Dave Nalle

    Once again politics are overshadowing what matters the most.

    Actually, Dustin, it seems to me like Kerry’s little gaffe has provided a great opportunity for you and others to remind of us what our soldiers are really like, how and why they serve, and how totally off-base people like Kerry are.

    His attitude, which is so common among the elite of the left, requires a real obliviousness to the realities of the world. Everyone knows I didn’t serve in the military, but if I were to adopt Kerry’s attitude it would require me to believe that my father, both my grandfathers and all of my uncles were fools and dupes, especially the grandfather and uncle who were career officers.

    Dave

  • http://www.roblogpolitics.blogspot.com RJ Elliott

    Also, it should be pointed out that the Democrat nominee for President just before John F-ing Kerry was a fella by the name of Al Gore. Good ol’ Democrat Al Gore tried to disqualify thousands of ballots cast by members of the US military who were stationed overseas.

    The point is this: Democrats generally do not respect members of the US military. They view them as rapists, murderers, baby-killers, morons, and basically un-educated scum who don’t deserve to have a voice, or to have their votes counted.

    And if anybody thinks that turning the House of Representatives over to San Francisco leftist Democrat Nancy Pelosi is gonna be good for our troops (or our country), they really need to think again…

  • Nancy

    RJ, I doubt you even KNOW many Democrats, & you certainly can’t read minds, so regarding your assertions of their attitudes toward our troops, you’re full of crap, as usual. All the Dems I know regard our troopers with compassion & admiration for the dangers they face & the problems they also face that being in Iraq has engendered. Far more than our Fearless Leader and his git followers display, that’s for sure.
    Most certainly it won’t hurt the US that congress stops rubber-stamping the fascist incursions against the Bill of Rights & the Constitution currently being mounted by Dubya & his Hitler Youth Corps; nor will it hurt if the new congress headed by Pelosi or anybody else on either side of the aisle, for that matter – an honest & honorable GOP member would be just as welcome) finally gets some spine, retakes their own responsibilities regarding waging of war, and stops allowing Bush to send yet more of our troops to get mutilated or die trying to inflict “Freedom” or “Democracy” on a barbaric bunch of half-crazed sectarian primitives who clearly don’t want it and couldn’t handle it if they had it. There’s nothing whatsoever supportive of our troops in insisting that even more of them go & get killed in a conflict based on lies, faked evidence, & suppressed information, such as Bush has created in order to aggrandize himself to history as a “War President” just like Poppy Bush #41, or to gratify his corporate masters trying to control Iraqi oil supplies like the good puppet he is.

    Bush can be judged by his deeds & his lies; stop generalizing about what a major part of the population you know nothing about thinks, let alone says … not that you bother to find out, certainly.

    You might also bother to find out that a good many genuine conservatives these days aren’t in the BushCo lockstep, either. Indeed, some of his most vociferous critics are those who belong to the “true” conservative/Republican party, which is a far different group than the neocons who’ve hijacked it in recent years.

  • Nancy

    Oh. I meant to say, that I take back anything good I had to say about Kerry yesterday. He’s a fool, a wimp, a wuss, & hopefully someone in the Dem party will sit on him & keep his mouth shut from now on. He may be intelligent (?) but he’s certainly short on common sense & basic smarts. I’m totally disgusted that he caved in & apologized at the insistance of a self-righteous, self-appointed, smirking skank like Bush.

    Of course, if he’d had any brains to begin with, he wouldn’t have even tried to tell a joke. He’s NOT the hale-fellow-well-met, joke-telling, gregarious type & shouldn’t try to act like he was. Talk about trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory….

  • Bliffle

    It’s hard to believe that so many people are expending so much hot air over such a trivial issue.

    Don’t you think you ought to be looking at serious substantive issues instead?

  • Nancy

    It’s always fun to fill up an idle hour or so abusing those not present to defend themselves, especially if they’re celebrities or public figures who ought to know better. I refer to us bloggers lambasting Kerry & Bush, of course.

    Regarding congress & the GOP trying to hang Kerry about such idiocies, I have no control. It’s what they do to avoid getting any REAL work done, I suppose. That, or start fake arguments about gay marriage, or flag burning, or such other bullshit of importance only to their lemming base audience that follows directions without thinking.

  • MCH

    “Also, it should be pointed out that the Democrat nominee for President just before John F-ing Kerry was a fella by the name of Al Gore. Good ol’ Democrat Al Gore tried to disqualify thousands of ballots cast by members of the US military who were stationed overseas.”
    – RJ Elliott

    John Kerry’s military record:
    **enlisted in the U.S. Navy during time of war
    **3 Purple Hearts
    **1 Silver Star
    **1 Bronze Star

    Al Gore’s military record:
    **enlisted in the U.S. Army during time of war
    **1 tour in Vietnam

    RJ Elliott’s military record:
    **none…refuses to even attempt to enlist, instead writing numerous posts pretending to know what combat is like, and calling anyone opposed to the invasion/occupation a “pinko” or a “commie”

    —————————–

    “The point is this: Democrats generally do not respect members of the US military. They view them as rapists, murderers, baby-killers, morons, and basically un-educated scum who don’t deserve to have a voice, or to have their votes counted.”
    – RJ Elliott

    The point is this: this is the same guy who compared Vietnam combat veteran Max Cleland to “a gigantic thalidomide baby.”

  • Nancy

    Why are all chickenhawks self-styled Republicans/conservatives? Seems to me they’re all just old-fashioned blowhards & yellowbellies. If they truly respected the GOP, they’d stop trying to identify themselves with it. Talk about slander.

  • Clavos

    emmy sez:

    John Kerry’s military record:
    **enlisted in the U.S. Navy during time of war

    Because he was refused the deferment to study in France he was seeking, and he enlisted in the Navy to avoid the Infantry.

    **3 Purple Hearts

    At least one of which is questionable, but which nonetheless got him back home within four months.

    **1 Silver Star
    **1 Bronze Star

    Which he defiled by throwing away.

    Kerry is an arrogant, military hating psuedo intellectual who has never done an honest thing in his life.

  • Clavos

    The point is this: this is the same guy who compared Vietnam combat veteran Max Cleland to “a gigantic thalidomide baby.”

    Years ago, and he has apologized profusely ever since, REMF.

    What war did you fight in, emmy??

  • MCH

    “Years ago, and he has apologized profusely ever since, REMF.”

    That’s not true, Clavvy. He “apologized” one time (his “10 times” statement was a lie, BTW), almost a year-and-a-half after the thalidomide statement, and only after several conservative BC participants commented that it was a scumbag thing to say.

    I believe the only thing that your little butt-buddy was “sorry” for was the fact that none of his fellow conservatives supported his mocking the appearnace of a dismembered veteran.

  • Nancy

    I frequently miss the days when it was considered the honorable thing to do for an affronted person or his friends/representatives to thrash such a jerk within an inch of his life with a horsewhip, because that’s what the lowlife richly deserves.

  • Baronius

    Senate Republicans – 30% veterans
    Senate Democrats – 30% veterans
    House Republicans – 30% veterans
    House Democrats – 20% veterans

  • Bill B

    CPTL in #15 is right on. The wingnuts are in their deluded heaven. If they had even the slightest ability to objectively look at Kerry’s speech, they’d see he forgot the ‘us’ between ‘get’ and ‘stuck’ and was slamming Bush. Did he screw it up bigtime? Oh yea. But keep on deluding yourselves that he was bashing the troops or had a freudian moment or couldn’t restrain his elitism.

    Your responses tell more about yourselves than any of your ideas about Kerry’s quote convey anything about him.

    Please enjoy your trip to bizarro world. You are free to distort as you please.