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Without going into all the details (which I already provided to the Polizei so leave me be!), there was an unfortunate incident at a sandwich shop near my village this evening. Suffice it to say, I take great issue with suicide-stupidity.

By the time a person is twenty-one years old that person should know better than to say something stupid like “People who commit suicide are selfish/lazy.” Even if people who committed suicide were selfish/lazy, uttering this statement when one doesn’t know for absolute sure that no one within earshot has lost a loved one to suicide is some hell-bound bad manners.

It’s illogical to conclude that someone who has committed suicide was selfish/lazy to do so. The people who think this way have never known the peril of intense self-loathing on that level. Having led a relatively decent life has somehow skewed their perspective. They’ve never looked in the mirror and been so revolted that they would desire to kill much less successfully kill the source of that reflection. Relatively speaking, they’ve known nothing but good times. If one was able to recover from a traumatic event(s) in one’s life, one’s life has been good. Maybe one’s life hasn’t been great, but obviously not as bad as others. People who committed suicide knew no such good time when it counted most. They did not recover. To add insult to injury, some living jackass comes along and berates what was already thought by the suicidal person to be a big fat nothing. Good going. Kick ‘em when they’re dead.

Let’s take a look at what is heard by the loved one left behind. But before we do, let’s put aside the idea of letting jackass off the hook just because he/she didn’t know there was someone around whose loved one committed suicide — they should’ve at least asked first. Of course this begs the question “Who the hell would ask such a thing?” Who the hell indeed! If one isn’t willing to ask, then where does one get the will to voice an opinion? Or is it that one has absolutely no consideration for other people’s feelings? Let’s look at that. The unspoken sentiment behind the already inhuman statement “People who commit suicide are selfish/lazy” is “So what that his/her suicide caused you tremendous grief and that it may take you years to recover from your loss — take heart in knowing what a selfish, lazy, inconsiderate person they were. How could you have loved such a person in the first place?”

One doesn’t have to have a degree in psychology to rightly conclude these people have no boundaries. As willing as they are to invade your boundaries, they’ll likely (subconsciously) allow you to invade theirs for lack of any communication skills or empathy from which to rebound back. So I say have at it. Exploit at will. They say your loved one’s suicide was selfish/lazy, tell them they’re way too short/fat/tall/thin/dark/light to ever be loved by a decent human being. When someone violates the decency code by making fun of or commenting negatively about something you can’t help, give it right back. Or, if you’re standing in line at a sandwich shop, start sobbing uncontrollably in which case the focus will turn to them because they are in a better position to answer others when they ask, “What’s wrong?” If the jackass lies, eke out what they said as best you can and watch the fireworks begin.

The important thing for everyone else to remember is that you don’t have to have lost a loved one to suicide to put jackass in his/her place. If you’re feeling froggy, do it on behalf of all those who did suffer that loss but aren’t emotionally stable enough to do it themselves.
Nobody likes anybody that makes somebody cry. But I sure did, er, do love to see a jackass squirm.

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About Diana Hartman

Diana is a USMC (ret.) spouse, mother of three and a Wichita, Kansas native. She is back in the United States after 10 years in Germany. She is a contributing author to Holiday Writes. She hates liver & motivational speakers. She loves science & naps.
  • http://lynchburgvirginia.blogspot.com/ D L Ennis

    Well said…Thank you!

  • Luke

    Even if suicide commiters were lazy, they’re not around any longer to give a shit what people think of them.

  • Nancy

    I hope whoever made that statement got his misunderstanding corrected at the hands of the outraged.

    People who commit suicide are (for the most part – I exempt those who suicide thru fear of retribution, like Adolf Hitler) so deeply troubled, they are seldom thinking straight. This certainly doesn’t make them stupid & lazy, but rather, deserving of deep pity & compassion, & help.

  • Nelson Dunlap

    SUicide is selfish but I want to know why that person talked to everyone else but me?

  • cat

    what the hell i dont agree at all that a suecidal person is selfish nor lazy theyve obviously had a hard life and if there being beaten on or something then why not just hurt themselves thats all theyve known all along anyways if they commited suecide then they had there reason not just cause they were bored who are we to judge that

  • faiz amin subhani

    tthis is not fair to say the suicidal are lazy,selfist and stupid.i would like to say,they thoughts they dont get anymore from this life after spending a hard life,after failing in their amis.

  • Synapse

    Unfortunately I didn’t read this two years ago, so I’ll put in a comment that was severely lacking.

    Those who have committed suicide were fools. Their deaths are a direct result of their stupidity. I think it is so pathetic how people have pity on such weak minded individuals. Sigh, at least we don’t have to listen to them cry about how bad their life is. Remember If life sucks and you can’t take it spare us the drama and end your “cursed” existence.

  • gian

    that is so true.. it’s so easy for other people who have never ever felt what’s like to say that suicidal people are lazy and stupid[like these are the only reasons for one to feel suicidal..>.<] let them try being in the suicidal person’s shoes and ask them if they still think that suicidal people are lazy or stupid?

  • shannon

    they adviously felt unbearable pain and didn’t see anyway out. whoever thinks a sucicidle person is lazy/stupid should have to walk around in that persons shoes then lets hear how they feel. tour ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  • Dr.Phil

    It is very insensitive and crass to say a suicidal person is selfish/lazy however, it is also a mistake to think suicide is the answer to life’s many perils and problems. The majority of suicides occur with individuals who are suffering from severe mental illness ranging from depression to schizophrenia. Friends, family and loved ones should notice the signs of depression and DO SOMETHING about it since the suicidal person can’t get out of the depths of their misery. I would never commit suicide, and yes, I have been severely depression and yes, sought medical help. I would never do it because to me it would be too selfish of me to abandon my spouse and children and family and pets and friends. Now if I didn;t have any of these people in my life, I might feel differently but, life is a gift and no matter how bad you may have it, someone has it much worse so suck it up, get help and LIVE!

  • dee whyte

    This is a bunch of bull! What r u people saying, that is ok to kill yourself because life isnt going the way you had hoped? GIVE ME A BREAK! Suicide is a VERY selfish act! Get a grip, get yourself some help and get over it! I have had VERY tramatic things happen even loosing my six week old to murder and YES.. I hated life and wanted to go to heaven to be with my child but that wasn’t God’s plan for me. I still have life here to live. If I would have killed myself, then my mother and father would have lost her daughter, and my brother would have no living siblings. Is that fair to them? NOOOOOOO.
    I am now a mother again to a wonderful 13 year old son, he would have never had a chance to live had I been selfish and took my life 16 years ago. God’s plan was for me to be a mom, just not to my first son (he was needed in heaven).
    So like I said earlier, get help and move on, God still has a plan for you!

  • Jef

    dee whyte, you need to understand that not everyone believes in god. If god is what you want to believe in fine, but don’t attack others for not doing so. The fact that you wanted to kill yourself so you could go to “heaven” is indicative that you didn’t want to die, you just wanted to see your baby again.

    And just because you think you felt suicidal once does not give you the right to judge others and certainly does not give you the ability to feel other peoples feelings.

  • dee whyte

    Jeff, r u feeling sad? Then why? Probably because things aren’t going the way u planned. Wow and that is not selfish? Your poor family will have to suffer because u gave up. I sincerly hope u get the help you need and don’t put your family through the pain you are obviously feeling. That is not fair to them!! That is the point I was trying to make. We have our ups and downs and sometimes are very, very lows, but have faith IN WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE. And know that someone else is going through worse than you somewhere else in the world and I am sure they aren’t giving up. Pick yourself up by the boot straps and make the changes you want out of life and don’t expect them to just some knockin gat your door!

  • JGT

    Life is not a gift, some man taught you that from the bible. Life is meaningless, nothing and empty. As long as you live you will be miserable, and that is guarantee. Remember you have a choice, if you want to commit suicide, thats good, if you want to live, that is good also. Stop being judgemental. Make your own decision

  • michellehb

    As a person with a history of suicide, dee whytes idea of god fixing everything is NOT an uncommon approach to those like myself.
    Its unfortunate that many in the religious community have this opinion. maybe they could save more lives with a more loving sensitive approach.
    my inability to complete had nothing to do with help from that group.
    This is NOT an attack…just a comment based on experience.
    and maybe suicide IS somewhat selfish, but really, what isnt?

  • http://www.something.com Dr Phil Sucks

    it seems everyones a fucking comedian, doctor, psychatrist, mathematition, parent, gaurdian or coach these days, but they never take a moment to consider if there shit at it and should

    1) leave it to the experts.
    2) Shut up

    I am more then happy to oblige as a part time lunatic with a 4×4 to tell them there stupid shit heads and escalate to violence and actually give the dumbass a reason for his servere retardation.

  • Just me

    Some people here are showing extreme ignorance. Suicide isn’t “i dislile this, i’ll kill myself”. It’s a result of something not right in the mind. Not everyone reacts the same to everything.
    Often they’re tortured inside, but hide it. Who are you to say what condition someone’s in.
    Suicide is neither selfish nor lazy. It’s generally as an impulse from exceeding built up pain. The only selfish and lazy ones are the ones who won’t give a few moments to show basic compassion.
    As for letting the emotionally weak die, let’s go with the physically weak too and not treat any illness. That satisfy you?
    I’m not a medical expert, but I do know this area. I’ve nearly succeeded multiple times. When you feel the intense pain and desire to die, you can have a useable say here. Otherwise you’re just assuming the worst and worsening the problem.

  • Mike

    I once knew this guy who on hearing that a friend of mine’s dad had committed suicide he stated quite directly that it was “karma”.

    Needless to say I phased this ‘friend’ out of my life soon after.

  • Guess

    Suicide is selfish. People kill themselves because of a pain that the indvidual is feeling. That is, by definition selfish. Most people who are suicidal will smile in your face and say nothing is wrong. I never show a sign of depression, and people just believe I am happy. :D

  • Guess Again

    To Dee.

    Making someone who is in constant emotional pain sta alive and lie to you about how they feel so you can be happy is much more selfish

  • habagoba

    a neurologist once told me that some people have natural desire built in them (as do some animals). This is why when some people look down form high places they have a ‘desire to jump’… hence the phobia of high places. Some animals do this as well.

  • MAD

    “20 – Guess Again
    Jan 04, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    To Dee.

    Making someone who is in constant emotional pain stay alive and lie to you about how they feel so you can be happy is much more selfish”

    Agreed. If a person doesn’t want to live, they’re just supposed to grin and bear it for other people?

    I don’t want to live. I see no point in it. I stick around for their sake.

    If I’m weak, fine, I’m weak for not understanding what the point is in staying alive and suffering this stupid miserable place.

    But, you know, everyone else wants me here for some reason. Whatever. I guess if they have to be miserable, I have to grit my teeth and be miserable with them by living out this pointless game.

  • Someone

    I can agree people are selfish who want to commit suicide but its true, try living a day in their shoes, they could have been abused, raped, had a rougher life than anyone could imagine and most of those people dont wallow in their problems, some of them actually think if they kills themselves they are saving you from wasting your time with them.

  • sandra

    I’M not Crazy people hurting me. I had a best friend Carolyn who really betrayal my trust. She was the only person that would talk to me at church. People look at me like I had a disease.When I lost my dad over the christmas holidays in 2006 I was crying people walked over me like i didn’t exist.I want to die and I will take me some sleeping pills. I’m ending my life!! Karl,Joeann and Carl you are the best YOU JUST DIDN’T KNOW THE PAIN I BEEN HOLDING. ILOVE YOU ALL.

  • Vel-Wilson Blann

    I have lost two friends to suicide. Both were wonderful loving people, generous, and possessed true values and substance as a human being. But what happened? Why did not they express their true feelings of lost hope and urgency to end life? Their friends and family may have helped them change their minds about it, perhaps 1 more day, month, hour, minute or second, may have made a difference. RIP (Dean & Sammy) I was your friend, but you did not even remember me before taking action against self. God Bless You.

  • ya

    wow, some really stupid people here :|

    “dee whyte: Jeff, r u feeling sad? Then why? Probably because things aren’t going the way u planned. Wow and that is not selfish? Your poor family will have to suffer because u gave up.”
    dee… you should search help for your disability to see things in different perspectives.
    For some people life has never went the direction or even close to the direction they wanted to, because parents, “friends” and everyone else has stepped on them and picked and indirectly chosen a horrible path to live for the individual.

    So lets take an example which you according to your logic approve.
    it is selfish if a rather young girl commits suicide after being raped by her father several times, given birth to her fathers child which later dies, never been allowed to go outside for social interaction, violently abused leading to permanent damage to her body. – It is selfish of that girl to let her father have to suffer from her suicide, why can’t she just let him have it his way and stop crying about it?

    “Synapse: Those who have committed suicide were fools. Their deaths are a direct result of their stupidity. I think it is so pathetic how people have pity on such weak minded individuals.”
    Those who have committed suicide mustn’t have been fools, since for some there’s actually no way out.
    As mentioned above, those who commit suicide ussualy pays the price of others stupidity.
    They might never actually have recived any pity or attention from others either, it’s a stupid assumption

    I don’t support suicide unless there is no way for the person to live a life that is bearable. however, the stupidity coming from the majority of people really surprises me.

    I am aware of some people here might just be trolling, but you never know with people. some are just that stupid.

  • JB

    I used to make fun of these type of people. I was very insensitive. Now I’m one of them. Be nice. You have to be in those shoes. Karma is a b….!

  • bhupendra Bist

    this question looks like a research question. you are asking it as a question to yourself.

  • Ashley

    Hey buddy I’ve wanted to kill myself since i was 6, oh yeah 6 year olds are real selfish, suicide isn’t selfish if they have a shit life, shitty parents and shitty friends, get over it! They have a right to be happy too, not just you, ooh wah i lost my friend too bad they didn’t stick around longer for their parents to beat them some more, to get raped more, ETC, YOUR the selfish one for trying to control YOUR friends.

  • love rose pink

    im 25 i have no kids i went to colrain high school they kicked me out evry morning so i didnt grauate no body cares i have to sisters younger then me they have kids they gey free money from every body i ask i get nothin cause i dont havew kids my mom wants me to kill my self so she can get a check my dad dont care im alive my grand parents only want me here cause i keep my sister kids for them i havnt talk to my grama in 8 years but now babys being born they need a babysitter i only get 15 a day im homless what do you say to that kill my self i dont know where to go from here i smoke weed cause it keeps me from hurting people i been to cousling they said i just need to cry im ok iv been going to cousling since i was rape by my mom boy friend you know she said its my fault cause im 10

  • kry

    DEE WHYTE I doubt you will read this but I believe what I’m going to write here is going to be of value.

    You clearly do not understand suicide what soever. Also just because you have gone through traumatization or feelings of suicide does not mean you can speak for everyone since not everyone kills themselves for the same reasons. What? You think God or even less, a therapist is a MIRACLE worker or something? God works ONLY if you believe in it and not everyone can or will believe in God. Not everyone can be forced to either, some people are prone to believe in religion and others are not. And regardless, even if they do believe in God, not everyone has their life miraculously getting better just because they became a christian. I’m sorry but life just does not work that way, there is something called a reality check. Suicide is a very complicated matter that most people cannot even begin to understand.

    You call it selfish? I don’t BLAME the person who committed suicide because they obviously did it because they were experiencing immense pain in which no other option was there for them. And its not that they haven’t tried, sometimes they can’t even have a CHANCE to. Professional help is extremely expensive and in some places, is virtually nonexistant. Not everyone can afford it! Most KIDS that commit suicide may often have extremely resilient parents that REFUSE to help them get help because the kid can’t afford it either. Some cultures people are beaten SEVERELY if they express any form of emotional weakness or even by simply trying to “talk things through”. Now look at it in this perspective Dee, do you think people that live in these kind of situations can just CASUALLY lift themselves up and walk with their head held up high? Take culture into a matter here please and if you so resilient that you can’t even begin to understand what I am saying then there is no help for you.

    Also explain to me what is most important? Your own sanity/life or the people who love you? It is easy to say that they are selfish but if you can open up your mind in another perspective, it is NOT a selfish thing to only be able to think of yourself when things are just too hard. When emotional nutrients are severely lacking in a human being, their mental state goes haywire and some cannot help but end their life. Do you also think people just kill themselves in one go? NO. it takes YEARS of torment and anguish, not to mention of course they will know that the people they leave behind will be hurt. It must go through their head like a neverending repetative curse making them feel even worse. These people aren’t stupid, they UNDERSTAND that what they are doing is wrong at the end of it all. Do you understand this vicious cycle now? I hope so. It is like starvation, if you don’t eat, you die. The only thing is we are different from animals and we need spiritual and emotional uplifting, which SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE. Suicide often takes more than one life, it takes the lives of others that love them this is true, but knowing that, we must understand that it was no ones fault and casting blames on people is the last thing anybody wants in this kind of situation.

    Not every therapist helps and not everyone has friends or family to help them. Yes committing suicide is wrong and I am not bashing christian people, but there is nothing more ignorant and selfish on your part, than to say “People who commit suicide are selfish bastards and they deserve to die”. Everyone is born with equal chance at life but unfortunately not everyone is born EQUIPPED for life, whether that is physical or mental. So instead of bashing those that have passed on due to these extreme emotional pain, do not bash them and if you wish to make a difference, try to understand and help them the best you can.

  • kry

    DEE WHYTE I doubt you will read this but I believe what I’m going to write here is going to be of value.

    You clearly do not understand suicide what soever. Also just because you have gone through traumatization or feelings of suicide does not mean you can speak for everyone since not everyone kills themselves for the same reasons. What? You think God or even less, a therapist is a MIRACLE worker or something? God works ONLY if you believe in it and not everyone can or will believe in God. Not everyone can be forced to either, some people are prone to believe in religion and others are not. And regardless, even if they do believe in God, not everyone has their life miraculously getting better just because they became a christian. I’m sorry but life just does not work that way, there is something called a reality check. Suicide is a very complicated matter that most people cannot even begin to understand.

    You call it selfish? I don’t BLAME the person who committed suicide because they obviously did it because they were experiencing immense pain in which no other option was there for them. And its not that they haven’t tried, sometimes they can’t even have a CHANCE to. Professional help is extremely expensive and in some places, is virtually nonexistant. Not everyone can afford it! Most KIDS that commit suicide may often have extremely resilient parents that REFUSE to help them get help because the kid can’t afford it either. Some cultures people are beaten SEVERELY if they express any form of emotional weakness or even by simply trying to “talk things through”. Now look at it in this perspective Dee, do you think people that live in these kind of situations can just CASUALLY lift themselves up and walk with their head held up high? Take culture into a matter here please and if you so resilient that you can’t even begin to understand what I am saying then there is no help for you.

    Also explain to me what is most important? Your own sanity/life or the people who love you? It is easy to say that they are selfish but if you can open up your mind in another perspective, it is NOT a selfish thing to only be able to think of yourself when things are just too hard. When emotional nutrients are severely lacking in a human being, their mental state goes haywire and some cannot help but end their life. Do you also think people just kill themselves in one go? NO. it takes YEARS of torment and anguish, not to mention of course they will know that the people they leave behind will be hurt. It must go through their head like a neverending repetative curse making them feel even worse. These people aren’t stupid, they UNDERSTAND that what they are doing is wrong at the end of it all. Do you understand this vicious cycle now? I hope so. It is like starvation, if you don’t eat, you die. The only thing is we are different from animals and we need spiritual and emotional uplifting, which SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE. Suicide often takes more than one life, it takes the lives of others that love them this is true, but knowing that, we must understand that it was no ones fault and casting blames on people is the last thing anybody wants in this kind of situation.

    Not every therapist helps and not everyone has friends or family to help them. Yes committing suicide is wrong and I am not bashing christian people, but there is nothing more ignorant and selfish on your part, than to say “People who commit suicide are selfish bastards and they deserve to die”. Everyone is born with equal chance at life but unfortunately not everyone is born EQUIPPED for life, whether that is physical or mental. So instead of bashing those that have passed on due to these extreme emotional pain, do not bash them and if you wish to make a difference, try to understand and help them the best you can.

  • Mark

    “Lazy and selfish”

    LOL!! *sigh*

    Killing yourself is THE most difficult thing to do on this planet. I have the upmost respect for those that have killed themselves. They have fought past their innate feelings to do something that most people could never do. That’s pretty impressive if you ask me.

    We live in a society that assumes we are all equal pieces of clay that can be molded into one, uniform fashion. We are not. We all feel different feelings. We all have a different outlook on life. Every human mind is different.

    The person who killed themself did not ask for life. They were SELFISHLY created by their parents. It is selfish of anyone to convince someone to not commit suicide. Do you know what they are feeling? Nope. Feelings are relative. Just because you were once depressed does not mean that he or she feels exactly the same as you did when you were depressed.

  • lost

    Sometimes you feel so much pain and hopelessness and nothing will ever change.
    We believe we have to accept life the way it is and that there’s no way out. You cry and cry hoping somebody will hear you but they don’t. I cry all the time but I hide.

  • Jasmine

    Hi I have been suicidal for a real long time,and i know that a lot of people call us suicidal people names and they totally suck. Those ppl have no idea what we’re going through. A lot of people are uncompassionate selfish monsters who beat down those that are suicidal and make things so much worse. I just wish all those who seperate themselves from the suicidal people and that make fun of us r are mean to us in anyway will suffer the loss of some1 very close to them (by suicide) r i hope they exp tremendous pain themselves and not evry problem is solveable. I don’t want 2 live 2 be really old and it looks like if i don’t do myself in that’s exactly what’s going 2 b happening. It’s just so very depressing and i can’t take it anymore. None of u know the torture i continously go through. Ahhh and anti depressents aren’t going to magically make anything go away and ahh i am so poor whatever i’m pretty sure u all aren’t sitting reading all this crap anyway commiting suicide takes GUTS takes time and is Hard.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Jasmine –

    DON’T listen to these people – they have NO clue what you’re going through! Get help, find friends, find reasons to live – but whatever you do, don’t pay any attention to the ignorant jerks like the ones who pretend that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Please, find a reason to live. I find happiness in helping others – and maybe that will work for you. But whatever you do, don’t remain alone. Find someone to stay around – now, and as much as you can.

  • Present situations past memories

    Ok so I’m feeling nearly at my worst right now. My birthday is soon to approach and I’m just looking to get it over with. My life is ok except for when certain situations arise that are really stress inducing and the thing about my life us that when something bad happens alot of bad things happen. A normal happy day is a blessing for me but I haven’t had a good one for some time .. I’m pondering on taking a bunch of advil but it is hard. I really just want to get really far away from people in general because of how much of them hurt me.. Committing suicide is definitely not selfish. If no one cares that I committed suicide then how is it selfish? There’s no way that it’s selfish. If u have an extreme toothache and u can’t get help from anyone then ur going to try to end the pain yourself by removing the tooth or some other form of relief from the pain. You’re not hurting anyone by doing this , you just want to end the pain. No one cares that you’re in pain so u resolve the issue urself.. I don’t see how it’s weak either.. The people who say that are insanely ignorant. I’m sure that ur life were full of sunshine and lolipops so tghats why u have that mentality. But people like me who have a damaged past have a different perspective in life…. And what do u want me to do?? Suck it up? Suck up the pain? But even a sponge has a limit to what it can take.. Right now I am Disgusted with the people of this earth and hope to get away from all human interaction asap but it’s nearly impossible for me do that since interaction is part of my daily life. So until I muster up the immense strenght it takes to commit suicide I guess I’ll have to interact .. I would much rather get away from it all than commit suicide but seeing as suicide is the only possible way to do that at the time then it will remain in my mind until I actually do it or until I find a way to get away.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/diana-hartman/ diana hartman

    Dear Present situations past memories,
    Please call 1-800-273-855 right now. Please don’t wait until it “gets bad enough” or hesitate to call because “it isn’t that bad.” Call now, get outside your own head for just a few minutes and please let someone who is trained to help you do just that. I know it’s exhausting just thinking about it and I know it seems like nothing and no one can help or change anything. Do it anyway.

  • http://www.brnbalendalive.com Balthazar Rodrigue Nzomono-Balenda

    Stop talking crap! Put yourself in their shoes, before judging them for being lazy and selfish. I don’t advocate suicide either, but who are you to judge?

  • RickyUK

    Hi..I recently lost my mum to cancer. I lived with her all my life as her full time, live in Carer..we were like a double act..we shared the same naughty, cheeky sense of humour but now she has gone I feel so lonely..it’s like my partner in crime has left me and to be honest I miss her terribly. I am 38 and wondering if it would be selfish for me to join her? I do have a 41 year old brother but he has his life/fiancee but I’m really struggling here..plz help..thanks so much..

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/diana-hartman/ diana hartman

    Ricky, please go to this site right now: http://www.samaritans.org/
    Use the phone number to call right now.

  • RickyUK

    Thanks Diana but will they be able to bring mum back? Since she passed away on 2nd Dec 2011 I’ve been crying constantly..lost 2 stone in weight..I’m not sleeping well either..I just miss her so so much :’-(

  • In Defense of Selfishness

    Selfishness isn’t a bad thing. A selfish person would never take their own life. That’s self-sacrifice.
    A suicidal person has no regard for themselves, or they would not be committing suicide.

  • charlie

    A friend went to the Hospital for suicide help they kept her for almost a week and said she was ok. They let her go and she Killed herself the Next day. 9/3 2011. IM STILL HURTING AND FEEL RESPONSIBLE is it normal. CHARLIE

  • Just saying

    Its not an easy or fair life. People kill others to feel better. Others walk all over and use others to make themselves feel better. Others kill themselves to end the pain. Others help others to feel better. We don’t agree that most of those acts are okay but we all suffer and we make others suffer. Its a nasty cycle and if you want chand the results you should change how you treat others. Its not goign to make the world perfect but It could save a life. Its selfish and lazy to judge someone they don’t know and hurt others around them. They don’t even know what that person went through and thinking that They would do something different and better is ignorant. Most cases They don’t even last as long in their shoes.

  • Miranda

    The only difference between suicide and martyrdom is the amount of press coverage.

  • e

    No,people who suicide AREN’T lazy because if they want to die it means that they have no interest in theyre lives so they can’t be lazy,they just don’t want to do anything because they have no motivation,a selfish act is to say that they are lazy just because you qant to live,but hey it’s your choice,it doesn’t mean all the other people must have your point of view,the only selfish persone here is you.

  • e

    We are not because we chose to,we can kill ourselves whenever we want to,and also a person who kills himself isn’t selfish,he’s the opposite,he’s going to be selfless soon.

  • Rosslyn

    I agree suicide people are selfish, inconsiderate and lazy, as I once knew a person by the name of Timothy Van Der Merwe, someone who sold himself as a male prostitute for his drug addiction. His mother never loved him, of course who would as he was a selfish vengevil being that was clear from a young age. Timothy Van Der Merwe will rot in hell as far as I’m concerned, to my knowledge he has done much damage to innocent lives and he will pay for it!