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<h1>STRAIGHT UP | Jan Herman</h1>
Jan Herman (photo by Joan Herman, edited by Phillip Winn)

DONAHUE SPEAKS UP AND OUT

Posted by Jan Herman on March 24, 2005 11:14 AM (See all posts by Jan Herman)

Jean Shepherd was always my idea of a media rebel. Phil Donahue never was. But he became one for me this morning on Democracy Now! Donahue, right, smiles easily and calls himself lucky. He says his success spoiled him, which I'm sure is true. But behind the smile and the luck there's a gritty malcontent who knows what's wrong and says it vigorously. "Shut up -- and sing!" That, Donahue says, is what Bush regime capo Karl Rove has told the mainstream media. And it has done so, especially MSNBC, which booted him off the air just before the invasion of Iraq, ostensibly because of poor ratings but actually because of his liberal, antiwar views and the platform he offered progressives. What does he say about the right-wing patriots now running the country? "They can't find enough flags to stand in front of." What does he say about their God-loving politics? "God himself must be wincing at this pretense and false piety." As soon as Democracy Now! posts the video segment, I'll put up a link. Don't miss it.



Postscript: They've posted the segment. Here tiz. Click on "Watch 256k stream" for broadband.


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Posted by Jan Herman on March 24, 2005 11:14 AM (See all posts by Jan Herman)

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#1 — March 25, 2005 @ 16:02PM — Rodney Welch [URL]

I still haven't forgiven Jean Shepherd for a Christmas Story hands down the most odious piece of yuletide dreck ever made.

#2 — March 25, 2005 @ 18:53PM — SFC Ski

Rodney you have no soul, or your taste is in your mouth, that is one of the Greatest Stories Ever Told, about Christmas anyway. I can't remember the title of the compilation of Shephard's childhood tales is in, but hey are so funny, the best one is about fireworks, IMO.

#3 — March 25, 2005 @ 19:10PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

Jan Hermann continues to astound with his ability to take simple basic facts, ignore them and then look for laughable conspiracy theories to stand in for them.

Why is this dreck syndicated here on blogcritics?

Dave

#4 — March 25, 2005 @ 21:52PM — Victor Plenty [URL]

Someone has to counterbalance your dreck, Dave. ;)

#5 — March 25, 2005 @ 23:06PM — Dave Nalle [URL]

>>Someone has to counterbalance your dreck, Dave. ;)<<

That's fine, but could it be someone who actually makes some sense and who's actually writing for BC and not imported from somewhere?

Dave

#6 — March 25, 2005 @ 23:16PM — Steve S [URL]

Jan makes sense to me and I enjoy his writing. I'd never advocate anyone leave or question why they're writing here just because I disagree with their ideology. Too many people on the right wish to silence opposing views.

#7 — March 26, 2005 @ 00:00AM — Dave Nalle [URL]

An opposing view is one thing, opposing reality is something entirely different.

Do you honestly believe that relentlessly leftist MSNBC cancelled Donohue because he was too left wing, when he was getting Nielsen ratings so low that they calculated out to fewer than 100,000 people watching him on a given night? Some community access channel shows do better than that. With numbers that low, why would any responsibly run network keep him on the air?

What sense does it make to go looking for a conspiracy when the truth is obvious and staring you in the face?

Dave

#8 — March 26, 2005 @ 00:05AM — HW Saxton

Herman is just plain awful.Sub USA Today
awful.Is he actually syndicated? Maybe
in some bizarro world parallel universe
would his writing be found interesting.
But, since we don't live in a bizarro
world parallel universe...

#9 — March 26, 2005 @ 00:27AM — gonzo marx

i just can't resist this one..

Dave sez...
*An opposing view is one thing, opposing reality is something entirely different.*

and then Dave sez..
*Do you honestly believe that relentlessly leftist MSNBC*

Dave, me boyo...can you say "Scarborough Country" ?? or this whole weeks theme of "Faith in America"...or..on and on ad nauseum..

if MSNBC is relentlessy leftist, then ya must believe George Will is a commie pinko socialist...

now put down the crack pipe and try again..i know ya can do better than that..

Excelsior!

#10 — March 26, 2005 @ 00:35AM — Steve S [URL]

Do you honestly believe that relentlessly leftist MSNBC cancelled Donohue because he was too left wing, when he was getting Nielsen ratings so low that they calculated out to fewer than 100,000 people watching him on a given night?

Dave, when Jan said that, he made it a link. If you follow that link, it's about an article that says that, so it doesn't originate from Jan. The article then goes on to say WHY the ratings were so low, it was because of a business decision to appeal to those who were complaining that Donahue was too leftist. So Donahue changed the style of guests and his ratings tanked. Hence, you both are right. See?

#11 — March 26, 2005 @ 10:06AM — method [URL]

Calling MSNBC leftist is ridiculous, somewhere near center maybe, but a news source that brings up both sides of the story and has a few right-wing writers can hardly be considered leftist.

"An opposing view is one thing, opposing reality is something entirely different."

Sounds close to the White House verbatim: "Divorced from reality", just like Jeff Gannon used. Problem is.. who's 'reality'?

Your perception of reality may be the problem, especially if you believe the 'reality' that the republicans seem to be pushing with their pre-packaged fake news reports (that somehow manage to get released over the MSM networks that you call "leftist"!!!)

What reality are we talking about here???... The Republican reality:

The yellow-cake lies, non-existant WMDs in Iraq, the patriot act's conflicts with your civil rights, CIA rendition, torture (not excluding rape and murder), using Schiavo for political gain, fake-news-reports, payola scandals and fake news companies with fake news reporters with fake histories (gannon,et al) and everything else we see from the NeoCons.. is why the 'liberals' oppose the neocon 'reality'... because it is a steaming pile of grade-A bull**** and we damn well know it.

More and more independant reporters/bloggers are getting on the case, dragging up the evidence... over the next couple of years.. even more of the Republican "reality" is going to get shredded to pieces by the facts coming out, if corrupt Democract or Liberal politicians fall too... GOOD!! - I don't oppose all Republicans... just the criminals who've hijacked the party!

#12 — March 26, 2005 @ 10:15AM — Mark Saleski [URL]

An opposing view is one thing, opposing reality is something entirely different

this appears to be your number one theme dave. it is repeated in nearly every single post and piles of your comments.

the sad thing is, sometimes your right..but sometimes you just enjoy slinging mud (left loon, etc.)

it makes the politics column read talk radio.

plus, it's boring.

i'm looking forward to the rss feed-by-topic feature so i can completely ignore this stuff.

plonk!

#13 — March 28, 2005 @ 09:43AM — Keith [URL]

Anyone who thinks Donanhue wasn't axed PRIMARILY for his left wing views doesn't understand the business as it stood in 2003. MSNBC's internal memos showed without a doubt they did not want his anti-war views on their network. Of course, MSNBC has the right to be cowards. Hell, of you're going to consistently air a show that has toilet-level ratings, let it be Scarborough Country, because then the execs don't have to worry about a economic backlash from the troglodyte right.

They didn't want to let Donahue be Donahue and a great audience was left unserved. They're now listening to Air America and Sirius and XM Left, at the least the mainstreamers are.

Why are we so afraid of dissent?

#14 — March 28, 2005 @ 09:53AM — Dave Nalle [URL]

There's no shortage of dissent in this nation, Keith. Your argument doesn't make any sense to me. Why axe Donohue and keep a dozen other people with similar views about the war as part of their on-air staff? Maybe it was symbolic in some way, but the fact of the matter is that his ratings were just terrible. I suppose someone may have said "he's sucking money out of our budget like a vacuum - people don't like his extreme anti war views" and then they cancelled him. But that only makes sense.

Dave

#15 — March 29, 2005 @ 09:18AM — Keith [URL]

MSNBC has a DOZEN people on their on-air staff who are anti-war? Could you name them for me? I'd like make sure I watch them.

#16 — October 21, 2006 @ 09:48AM — Maalik

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