Yankees Name Phil Hughes as Fifth Starter; Joba to the Pen

Part of: Pinstripe Report

After a horrid spring for Joba Chamberlain in which he posted a whopping 16.20 ERA in only 6.2 innings pitched, Phil Hughes has been named the Yankees' official fifth starter. While names like Sergio Mitre, Alfredo Aceves and the recently released Chad Gaudin were thrown around as candidates for the slot, in reality it was always only a two-horse race. And Phil Hughes has apparently proved himself the thoroughbred as far as starting pitching for the New York Yankees goes.

But did Yankees manager Joe Girardi make the right decision, and what are the repercussions if he didn't? On the surface the answer to the former seems to be a "yes." Chamberlain, after utterly dominating opponents as a sensational reliever in 2007 and parts of 2008, never settled in as a starter. His 4.75 ERA in '09 is troubling enough but his increase in WHIP (1.26 to 1.54) and BB/9 (3.5 to 4.3) and his massive decrease in K/9 (10.6 to 7.6) in one season are strong indicators that Joba isn't equipped for a starting role. Throw in his 167 hits surrendered in 157 1/3 innings (the first time his hits allowed have ever exceeded his innings pitched), and all indicators support the logic of moving Joba back to 'pen where he can dial up his 100 mph fastball, is never forced to see the same hitter twice, and has had his most success.

But Phil Hughes has also consistently struggled as a starter, even while dominating during his own tenure in the setup role. After a solid but truncated 2007 rookie campaign (72 1/3 innings over 13 starts), Hughes was shelled all the way back to AAA in 2008 and proved highly ineffective as a starter once again to open the 2009 season.

While his final stats — an 8-3 record/18 holds/3.03 ERA — look very good, and his 1.16 WHIP, 10 K/9, and 2.9 BB/9 ratios are absolutely stellar, these stats are padded heavily by Hughes' work coming out of the bullpen. In his most embarrassing start of 2009 (and likely of his career), Phil was shelled by the lowly (and eventual last place) Baltimore Orioles on May 9, surrendering eight runs on eight hits in only an inning and a third. While Hughes did have the occasional solid start, he has far from proven himself better than Chamberlain when it comes to starting a ball game, at least in the regular season.

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  • 1 - Matthew T. Sussman

    Mar 27, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Well, yeah, someone else other than Hughes will have to make some starts. But here's the thing: every team has a fifth starter like that.

    Look at the Red Sox question marks: Dice-K and Clay Buchholz? Tim Wakefield is still alive?

    The Rays are going to rely on rookie Wade Davis at the end of the rotation. Who else can they turn to? Sonnanstine's not cutting it anymore.

    So you make a great point, but it's a zero sum debate. The fifth starter debate is not as implosive as it may seem. Especially when the Yankees might have the best No. 4 starter in the game.

  • 2 - Tony

    Mar 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    I guess the debate is this. Every team does have 5th starter issues definitely. That's why I've always argued teams should go to 3 to 4 man rotations, limiting pitchers to 100 pitches an outing to prevent injuries (the medical science backs this up).

    That being said, the Yankees choosing Hughes essentially forces them into a 6 starter situation because Hughes physically can't go 200 innings. While Wakefield may not be a guaranteed win, he is at the very least an innings eater.

    Going with Aceves or especially Mitre is as a "6th" starter is a lot worse that what most of the teams are running out as their 5th starter.

    The debate is whether Hughes is better enough than Joba as a starter to make up for the fact that he won't make as many starts. Where has you could have someone of Joba's skill level (even if its below Hughes) pitch 200 innings in a traditional 5 man rotation, now you've got a possibly incremental and unproven improvement in skill in 5th spot but a huge drop off when Hughes isn't pitching.

    You've got 1458 (we'll use 1134 for a seven inning start) innings in a season. Divide that by a 5 man rotation and each pitcher would put in 226.8 innings. Obviously this number would be less with spot starts, but the point is still there. With Joba, you can reasonably expect 180 innings this season (if his progression continued as a starter, leaving 46.8 innings or roughly 6 7-inning starts to spot start.

    With Hughes, even 150 innings will be pushing it. leaving roughly 10 starts to spot starters (the data in the article used a 9-inning model). That's still a difference of 4 games that could easily decide to the division. I'm not saying its the right or wrong move, its just a trade off that could prove costly, especially if Hughes doesn't get the job done.

    But in a sense you are correct because the Yankees won last season without a true 5th starter. As I said before, I think the spot is a waste and teams should go back to 3-4 man rotations. Medical evidence shows it is the volume of pitches thrown after the arms physical threshold (usually 100 pitches) that causes injury, not frequency. But that's a whole other article.

  • 3 - Tony

    Mar 27, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Wow, I need to proof read my comments. That was brutal.

  • 4 - Tony

    Mar 28, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Just a note: I don't think its a zero sum debate. You've got:

    - Should Joba or Hughes be the starter?
    - Should Joba or Hughes be the setup man
    - The Yankees "6th" starter options aren't strong and in a hyper competative division this can make a difference. I would rather rely on Clay Buckholtz or Tim Wakefield that freakin' Sergio Mitre (Aceves may prove ok but who knows).
    - And finally Hughes' success will be the ultimate declaration on whether Cashman was right to pass on Santana and keep Hughes off of the trading block.

    So even though MOST team have 5th starter issues this is the Yankees, they are in the toughest division in baseball that is consistently decided by a few games, and this is really the make or break year for Hughes and Cashman's internal development strategy since I don't think we'll be seeing Ian Kennedy any time soon.

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