In Ole Miss' ongoing efforts to be more "inclusive" and shed its image as a relic of the Confederate South, Colonel Rebel was banned from football games this year.
In Ole Miss' ongoing efforts to be more "inclusive" and shed its image as a relic of the Confederate South, Colonel Rebel was banned from football games this year.…
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76 - lost cause
Stop going to Ole Miss. Stop going to their games, stop watching or supporting this college in any way, shape or form. Let them know how you see this as an act of reverse discrimination against those who feel their heritage is being stolen by the politically correct. If these ignorant PC type feel the war was about slavery, so be it. The blind will lead the blind. Let them walk off the cliff.
77 - TRUErebel
Here's an idea that will fix it all!!! If you don't like colonel Reb, feel free to get the hell out of my school. We're not forcing you to be here and we're VERY tired of your whiney asses. There are lots of other schools to choose from. PLEASE feel more than welcome to look into somewhere else.
78 - DTG
One question. Who sold the slaves to the slave traders that brought them to America?
79 - Todd Ross
Interesting old posts here.
I wonder why no one commented that Col Reb was based on Blind Jim Ivy. In case you don't know who he was, he was a peanut vendor in Oxford and was considered the mascot for Ole Miss. He was an icon at Ole Miss for 6 - 7 decades.
Blind Jim Ivy was black.
Maybe if they make Col Rebel black there would be no fuss?
80 - cj
The black chiefs of Africa sold ther own people to the slave traders.
For a few trinkets and some rum and maybe a few loaves of bread.
If don,t like America go back to your africa where the problems started.
Nuff said!
81 - yo
DTG and cj,
You forgot the part where Black Africans wouldn't have engaged in the transatlantic slave trade were it not for pressure from white colonialists in the first place. But hey, continue with revisionist history.
- Yo
82 - WC
Regarding the last comment - perhaps you are correct that Africans would not have participated in the transatlantic slave trade without white pressure. What you failed to point out, however, is that they would have simply continued capturing and trading black African slaves among themselves as they had done for tens of thousands of years and continue to do even today.
83 - holly
I'm doing research for a book on the Old South & Ole Miss. Can anyone tell me the dates when Ole Miss stopped-
1)allowing the Rebel flag at school events
2)allowing Colonel Reb at school events
3)playing 'Dixie' at school events
Ole Miss banned Colonel Reb?
84 - Dave
I always think it is interesting when Civil War discussions start. There are almost always comments about Lincoln and the wicked south. Did you know that Lincoln rose to power off his wife's family's money? Did you know that they were the largest owner of slaves in Kentucky? Hmmm... Then there is the statement that Lincoln freed the slaves. Hmmm... Nope! He freed the slaves in the southern states only. It's amazing how revisionist history turns some Americans into heroes and others into villains. The Civil War was about the rights of states to govern themselves. IMHO we need another Civil War.
85 - Don
The University of Mississippi has banned display of the Confederate Battle Flag in any official capacity as well as students or fans. It was replaced with a non-offensive immitation. They recently banned the singing of a song that contained the lyrics "the South will rise again". I don't know what that was replaced with (We Are the World?). Now Colonel Rebel is banned. I thought our universities were supposed to be institutions promoting freedom of speech and thought.
Surely the enlightend leaders of the University cannot be finished with their mission to eliminate every last vestige of the ties that bind it to the Old South. First, the team cannot be called "Rebels" can they? That's bound to offend someone. Maybe "Los Ninas" would give the team enhanced recruiting capabilities.
Second, the colors red, white, and blue simply must go. Not only do they conjour up visions of the Confederate Stars and Bars, it's much too reminicent of the American Flag and all the evil that stands for. I would suggest maybe the rainbow colors or a bright Chinese red.
Third, the new mascot should be something cute and cuddly like Tinkerbell or Thumper. That would offend no one and appeal to all.
Lastly, how can the name "Ole Miss" be tolerated any longer. Old Mississippi was evil and bad with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I would suggest "Nuevo Sud", once again, for it's wide appeal and lack of offense (except to wrong thinking people). Then again, just being in Mississippi is offensive. Maybe the University should move to San Francisco.
86 - burntup
Hey look this is freaking crazy. People don't relize that the northern people was outraged when lincoln passed the emancipation. They wanted to keep their slaves thay pulled their families out the war. RaciSim will never go away if we continue to have things like naacp,black history month, and wanting to be considered the minority. If the black people are so offended by everything well so am I. I'm offended by all blacks on a basketball team, or the crazy stuff they do in the mall like walking dead center of the isle and won't move. The only race that needs to be pissed is the american indian. I don't see the black race going to africa and depending on the govt to be the minority. No one makes u go to ole miss or makes u watch the games I personally don't like olemiss but I think if your offended about something as stupid as a mascot your crazy. How offended when you call each other nigga! I ask some black guys that and its just slang. If you want to be respected then change something by working at it not complaining about it or whinning or using the slavery or minority crutch. I'm handicapped but I hate to be called that just like I hate for someone to hand me or do it for me I don't want to depend on you or anyone depend on your self NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING
87 - burntup
the thing that is wrong with this country is we have gone to long doing what the minority wants why should we conform to what ever the minority says....its time that the naacp be considered just as the kkk. why dont the university use a cotton ball as the mascot or maybe the magnoila flower then the tree huggers would fuss cant have n animal cause the peta will fuss
88 - mjs
why is yankee acceptable but rebel is not/
89 - james blakely
ole miss should not longer be called rebels,because they are not. what a bunch of losers
90 - Glenn Contrarian
Eric -
That said, the war was 150 years ago. The vast majority of Southerners have done exactly what I mentioned above and should not be blamed for what their vile ancestors did. Many areas of the South are now more enlightened than many areas of the North. With modern mobility, many people in the South do not descend from slave-era Southerners anyway.
I grew up about thirty miles from Ole Miss, when Archie Manning - the dad of Peyton and Eli Manning - was quarterbacking the Rebels. Perhaps what you say is true of some areas of the South, but in my experience, for the vast majority of the South it is NOT true...particularly in the MS Delta, ground zero for racism in America then and now.
It's a lot better than it was...but I do so wish I could take you for a little tour around Sunflower and Bolivar counties and show you just how far we haven't come.
I've written about it several times, but it bears repeating: in 1984 I went home to the Delta on leave from the Navy. I went to Shaw, MS where I had graduated high school four years earlier. The town doctor's office was on the main drag, and it had two entrances. Above each door was a marble slab - one said "white", and the other said "colored". Sure, the marble slabs were painted over with a solid coat of green...but a coat of paint can't hide letters chiseled an inch deep!
And the townsfolk still abided by those signs and no one said anything!
This was twenty years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act. If I'd had any brains, I'd have called up Time or Newsweek and blown the whistle...but I didn't. Why? That's the way it had always been while I went to school and helped run my mother's used-clothing store there...and (being stupid as most 21 year-old men are) I couldn't see the big picture, what it really represented.
The South is indeed changing, Eric...but slowly, so very slowly, like the River itself, a lazy meandering of the days of the oppressive Delta heat in midsummer to the eventual cool breezes after the harvest of the cotton and soybeans in the fall. But the cotton fields (and the cotton choppers who were all black) have mostly gone, replaced with more-profitable corn. Perhaps that's a good sign.
91 - Glenn Contrarian
And for all - I agree - Ole Miss should no longer keep 'Rebels' as its mascot. Personally, instead of the "Ole Miss Rebels", I'd like to see the "Ole Miss Civil Rights Activists" if only to tweak the sensibilities of those racists who comprised most of my friends and family in my youth in the Delta.
92 - Glenn Contrarian
Eric -
One more thing - about five miles from my house are the graves of an unbroken line of my family dating back to before the War - which is what we called the Civil War. I'll be the first in the line to be buried outside that cemetery - and it'll be in a country where I'll probably be the only grave in the cemetery that contains a white guy.
93 - james
how come black people are not racist and white people are no matter what
94 - razorbackforlife
arkamsas is the best college in the world{whites rule}
95 - getoffthatbs
If they change ole miss name and mascot, might as well change the following: New York Yankees (Yankees...) Milwaukee Brewers (Drunkedness), Washington Redskins (Native Americans...has to be the most offensive!) and the list goes on..
96 - getoffthatbs
and on the note of the civil war. Opposed to contrary belief, the civil was was fought to keep the Federal laws and the state laws separate. Read some books for gods sake! If u wanna go there we are in a similar situation with the "gay Marriage". We gonna have a civil war over that? Who knows.
97 - Taylor
Im sorry KA cut you during rush Ken, but that was YEARS ago. Your bitterness is unending.
98 - Dee
Hey
The AKC is adding a new dog breed, Blue Tick Hound. Since Colonel Reb is out. Why not adopt the blue tick hound and name it Rebel?
99 - BarefeetBob
The Confederate battle flag previously waved at Ole Miss games is not the "Stars and Bars". The Stars and Bars was the first national flag of the CSA, which resembles the "Betsy Ross" with only three stripes.
100 - hard feelings?
what's your problem with KA? You go out of your way to bash the fraternity twice.
101 - YourWelcomeforYourWhiskey
So you poor delusional souls are actually trying to argue that there was "nothing noble" about fighting for the south?? Are you insane? How many people do you think were fighting for their homeland and their family? This is the kind of northern snobbery we've had to put up with for 150 years. Complete idiots.
102 - HogFan
The plantation owners and the wealthy wanted to keep slavery for money. They'd have to start paying the people to work if they didn't have the slaves.. So you had lobysist and people with money ruling the country. Just like today. The average citizen didn't own slaves.. The people who actually fought in the war more than likely didn't own slaves...
I would figure that alot of the normal people would want to get rid of slavery so they could have some jobs...
Bottom line is the majority of America and the Confederacy thought they were above the blacks / slaves... Not every person did but most did. But the big plantation farmers were the one's who actually had the slaves... Arkansas was in the war but only like 3% of the population owned slaves... Go figure... Arkansas sides with fellow southerners... Thats what the south is all about.. Kinsmenship...
As for the mascot idea... I would think the only thing you could go to would be patriotic revolutionary rebels... Or like an earlier post said, do away with human mascots and have a Turkey or something.. lol
103 - Gomer
I wonder where Mac Diva and Chris Arabia are from to have such uninformed views on this issue?
104 - Gomer
The crazy thing is none of the PC snobs can name even one predominately black town in the entire world that is not overwhelmingly violent. This is not true for any other race on the planet. Now, I know that is not a PC stat but can it be explained intelligently by any of the mental giants on this post? I would gladly donate money, guns, shovels, hoes or work boots to any cause that might be able to remedy this huge but unspoken problem.
105 - The Ugly Truth-Majority Rules
There has recently been a American segregration study conducted by a notiable school which had some very interesting results. The study was to research the projected survival and mortality of the American majority vs. various American minority subcultures. They found that if each of the groups were segragated into their own individual territories/countries (mexicans, cubans, blacks, homosexual groups specifically) the groups would start to decompensate from the inside out, eventually turning into 3rd world countries without the assistance and skills of the American caucasion majority. If you took America and divided it into sections, this is what was projected would occur; the American black culture would demise from diseases(as they are predisposed to numerous inherited diseases involving heart, endocrine system, blood diseases and autoimmune disorders, fewer inclined to persue medical training and predisposition to addictive disease),crime (lack of structure in the family unit, lack of motivation)and hunger(poor agricultural/hunting skills); the American homosexual group's demise would be from disease (HIV, AIDS), lack of progeneration (reduction in conceptions); the mexicans and cubans would die from crime(motivated by predisposition to addictive diseases),
106 - The Ugly Truth-Majority Rules
Mexicans and Cubans cont.; would also die from disease (lack of motivation to get medical training and inherited disease). The Caucasian group was found to prosper and grow as their population was greater in numbers and although genetic and inherited disease would be present they would not lack pursuit of medical training, agriculture and hunting skills and a natural inclination to family structure. Sorry about grammar and spelling as I am still trying to perfect the English language. I only share this because I am minority and this information I found to motivate me to continue my education and not despise the Caucasian race because they are the majority of America and have helped this great country and people stay alive. Majority is the majority, it is the order of the human race and I do not question God's design. During my time in America I have lived both in the northern and southern regions and I find I enjoy the southern region best. People are friendly and nice, I have never felt hatred even with my dark skin. I remember visiting Ole Miss before the mascot was removed and neither I or my American "black" friends had problem with it. We feel the ones that had a problem with the mascot must harbor hatred for the white race and are more guilty of racism themselves. I must point out I never new a black person from Ole Miss who had a problem with the mascot and I knew a large number of people.
107 - Cindy
Dear Ugly Truth,
The school was so notable you couldn't remember the name of it? Could you please share the name of this "notable school" with us?
108 - Buman
Seems to me that someone wants "Admiral Ackbar", get rid of a few letters amd ad one and it would be "allah akbar".
Hmmm, either a star wars freak or a fox in sheeps clothing..
109 - Buman
Oh heres one, hang a person of a certain race and call the mascot
"The Ole Miss Longnecks"... To many people are crying over a friggin mascot because it's not PC.. There the ones that sit here enjoying thier freedom to piss and moan.. Not overseas fighting for that right. PC has nothing to do with race, that would be RC, politically or racially.
Now all you "PC OR RC WINGNUTS SHUT THE HELL UP"..
110 - Bob The Grounded
@getoffthatbs
Brewer = someone who brews beer. Specifically, in the cause of you mentioning the Milwaukee Brewers, the team was named for the city's association with the brewing industry - they play their games at MILLER part and their logo has barley grains on it, you know... like that is beer.
People who brew beer USUALLY are not drunks. Reason? If you brew beer you enjoy good beer therefore you aren't out to just get drunk of your ass.
Not sure why I even bothered responding to this.
111 - Warren
As someone who grew up in Mississippi, I am deeply ashamed of Ole Miss for abandoning its heritage. If the old mascot was not good enough for them, they don't deserve a mascot!
112 - Red Neck ...good ole boy
Time for a history lesson .
States rights ...well fact is the union wanted to impose huge taxes on the cotton sales the South was selling to our cousins over the pond .
The Union wanted in on the cash crop ..wanted to control it .
Jeff Davis ...pulled Mississippi out of the Union ...the other Southern states soon followed .........get it ??? sounds like politics doesn`t it ....the Union came up with the idea of working the slave issue into it ( even though northern slaves built the white house ) so the yankee boys thought they were fighting for a nobel cause .....sure they`ll kill each other if we make it nobel ...right ...anything changed in the last 150 years ? NOPE
113 - joy
I guess you would have to be a true blue Mississippian to understand what a slap in our face this was. Liberals are destroying our heritage one step at a time and I for one am so sick of it. long live the Col. Reb for he represents something many will never understand......