Weekly Top 5: Talented People Whose Gifts Were Wasted - Page 2

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5. Anna Kournikova - This lovable loser has never won a Grand Slam singles title - or a singles title in general - despite the overwhelming popularity she received from both the media and the fans. Although no one mentions the fact that Anna has two Grand Slam doubles titles with former No. 1 Martina Hingis, Anna was still a great doubles player. To her credit, Anna still plays tennis, and she does constant charity events. Could she have won a title if she didn’t have all of the media attention and dozens of cameras flashing at her? I sure like to think so.

Honorable mention: Jennifer Capriati, Ted Williams, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Bobby Fischer, River Phoenix, Dwight “Doc” Gooden, anyone lost in war...

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  • 1 - dietdoc

    Jul 21, 2005 at 1:52 pm

    Tan: Very thought-provoking and deserving of much commentary. However, it is distinctly different to lump Mike Tyson and Mozart (and even James Dean) in the same list. To "waste" a life, I think it would have to be more Tyson-esque - have everything and voluntarily toss it - is one thing. Premature death, as in the case of Mozart and Dean are entirely different animals, at least in my humble opinion. Was JFK's a "wasted" life?

    For my entry, having just seen the HBO special on his life, I nominate Mickey Mantle. As he admits himself, "I was given so much. You talk about 'role models,' look at me! Don't live your life like I did." [Paraphrased but accurate] Had he not been an alcoholic and played at 50% for much of his career I think Mickey, himself, would admit he would have accomplished much more. That is a life - with so many atletic skills - wasted.

    Cheers,

    Ron

  • 2 - Victor Plenty

    Jul 21, 2005 at 2:56 pm

    If I recall correctly, Mozart and Dean's premature deaths occurred, at least in part, through their own recklessness. That could place them in the same general category as Tyson.

    By Tan's reasoning, Einstein and Kournikova (now there's an unexpected pairing) would belong in a different category because their talents got dissipated by events entirely beyond their control. (World war in Einstein's case, excessively obsessive media attention in Kournikova's.)

    It seems to me both categories qualify to be described as wasted. Whether the wasting was done by those around them, or by the talented ones themselves, the world lost out on what it could have gained from a fuller expression of their talents.

    As best I can recall right now, my top candidate for a talent lost to the world before fully developing would be Srinivasa Ramanujan, the mathematical genius from India who died prematurely in the early 20th century.

  • 3 - dietdoc

    Jul 21, 2005 at 3:12 pm

    Victor, as you wish. It's your world; I am just a squirrel trying to get a nut. However Tan wants to define "waste" is perfectly fine with me!

    Cheers,

    Ron

  • 4 - Victor Plenty

    Jul 21, 2005 at 3:28 pm

    You could always do your own list of the Top 5 Talented People Who Wasted Their Own Gifts.

    ;-)

  • 5 - dietdoc

    Jul 21, 2005 at 3:33 pm

    Victor, I want Tan's thread to grow exponentially to a discussion of the whole topic....wasted, squandered, undiscovered, you name it! I am not nearly as imgainative as Tan and clearly don't have as good a recall as you and most others here. I will just watch the flow and take my inspiration from these talented folks. It is so much fun and I always learn something I didn't think of.

    Cheers,

    Ron

  • 6 - visualsimplicity

    Jul 21, 2005 at 4:19 pm

    Since you're listing a few tennis stars (or former tennis stars) in your list of wasted talent, I'm going to have to add to that.

    Andre Agassi - Through out his younger career, he was basically a playboy. Half concentrating on tennis, half just having fun. He didn't really dedicate himself playing and training for tennis until his late 20's (when he almost won all 4 grand slams in 1 calendar year). Just imagine if he had actually dedicated himself earlier in life, during his prime.

    Monica Seles - She was crushing all of her opponents in her early career. Then a crazy fan stabs her and she was never the same again. She couldn't have controled what happened, but it is still wasted talent.

  • 7 - JR

    Jul 21, 2005 at 4:21 pm

    Charlie Christian
    Clifford Brown
    Buddy Holly
    Eric Dolphy
    Tommy Bolin
    Randy Rhoads

  • 8 - Duane

    Jul 21, 2005 at 5:46 pm

    Tommy Bolin ??!! Alright. Good call, JR. And let's not forget SRV.

  • 9 - Duane

    Jul 21, 2005 at 5:56 pm

    Interesting that you would include Einstein, Tan.

    A couple of things:

    Einstein left Germany in 1933, and took up permanent residence in the US. He was never in any personal danger.

    His involvement in the Manhattan Project went no further than drafting and signing two letters to Roosevelt, at the urging of Leo Szilard and Eugene Wigner. His regret is summarized in the following statement:

    "Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb, I would not have lifted a finger."

    It is also worth noting that the years of WW I were among the most scientifically productive of his career.

  • 10 - Tan The Man

    Jul 21, 2005 at 6:12 pm

    I thought I had Mickey Mantle in there. I guess I forgot.

    I second Srinivasa Ramanujan.

    In the case about war - just the number of those died had their lives cut short and any thing they could have or would have done if they lived were wasted.

  • 11 - Tan The Man

    Jul 21, 2005 at 6:13 pm

    Another thing with Agassi is that there was a time when he focused mainly on his marriage to Brooke Shields. His marriage was in trouble and he took off tennis for 1-2 years.

  • 12 - Duane

    Jul 21, 2005 at 6:23 pm

    Ramanujan is an excellent choice. You might also look up Evariste Galois (1811-1832). He died from a gunshot wound inflicted in a duel over a woman, evidently. Just before the duel he scribbled down some mathematical ideas that eventaully became what is called group theory, an essential branch of mathematics. 21 years old.

  • 13 - Victor Plenty

    Jul 21, 2005 at 9:08 pm

    Alexander Hamilton was another taken from us too early by the primitive custom of the duello.

  • 14 - RJ

    Jul 21, 2005 at 9:57 pm

    Here are a good five:

    Hamilton

    RFK

    MLK

    Mike Utley

    Pat Tillman

  • 15 - Tan The Man

    Jul 22, 2005 at 2:26 pm

    I understand Tillman's place, but he isn't as famous or as important as Hamilton or MLK. But you could say that MLK's death made him more famous and his death accomplished more than his living might have.

  • 16 - RJ

    Jul 22, 2005 at 11:46 pm

    Pat Tillman, had he lived, would have almost certainly been elected a Republican Senator (at least), had he chosen to run.

  • 17 - Tan The Man

    Jul 23, 2005 at 2:22 am

    Yeah, but who really takes "celebrity/sports figure" politicians seriously? I'm not saying he couldn't have contributed... I'm just saying that he wouldn't be taken as seriously as other non-public figure types.

  • 18 - RJ

    Jul 24, 2005 at 9:26 pm

    Yea, Steve Largent and Jim Bunning aren't exactly Presidential timber...

    But, then again, Ronald Reagan was merely a Hollywood actor... :)

  • 19 - Celeste O.

    Jul 24, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    "Tell me future boy, who's President in 1985 then?"
    "Ronald Reagan."
    "The act-tor?!? Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis?"

  • 20 - Celeste O.

    Jul 24, 2005 at 10:18 pm

    Sorry, I should have added that Tillman was just a poster child for soldiers lost in the Iraq war, because of his athletic fame. Nothing against his sacrifice, but he does not represent a greater loss than any other war victim.

  • 21 - RJ

    Jul 24, 2005 at 11:09 pm

    Tillman died in Afghanistan...

  • 22 - AR

    Jun 29, 2006 at 12:09 pm

    I think you should add skier Bode Miller to this list.

  • 23 - zingzing

    Jun 29, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    brian wilson. der. james dean is overrated. good, but not the best of his generation by any means.

  • 24 - zingzing

    Jun 29, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    oh yeah. alex chilton.

  • 25 - zingzing

    Jun 29, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    fuck. rod stewart.

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