PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (AP) — Imagine if a trip to the corner newsstand required handing over your name, address, age, and income to the cashier before you could pick up the daily newspaper.
That's close to the experience of many online readers, who must complete registration forms with various kinds of personal data before seeing their virtual newspaper...
Source: CNN.com
I cannot stand news sites that require you to login. I feel pretty lame for not knowing about BugMeNot.com (thanks Jake). I have been flat out boycotting those bleeping sites. Now I at least can try this site.
One of the online campus publishing companies that tried their darndest to court us, Campus Publisher, requires you to login on all their partner sites. Those are college newspapers folks. That is just lame. Only a slightly bit more lame then the commercial sites that require you to login.
I am not upset about the privacy. I have said this before and I will say it again. If you are smart enough to open a web browser, you just gave up your online privacy. The problem is that the demographic data that these sites gather are going after it all wrong. I don't even want to put in what zip code I live in when I go to a site (I think WSJ does that).
That business model, the one of gathering demographic data is all off. Its the Web. Excuse my language but use the damn web statistics package that is running on your server to figure out where in the world I live. There is just no excuse!
Why does a news site need to know my email address? So they can (a) SPAM me or (b) give/sell my address to someone else that will SPAM me. I do not care how they state it, they either do A or B. Why do they need to know my name, age, etc? I am glad you asked, let me explain.
It was the stupid idea of some bean counter, or the boss of some bean counter at the newspaper who thinks that he can count his Web site visitors like his paper reading subscribers. The Web is not print, and people need to wake up and realize that.
I cannot think of one reason why requiring me to login to a news site is worth the aggravation and alienation of someone who has chosen to come to your web site. I just go somewhere else. Simple as that.
Originally posted at Breaking Windows.
Article comments
1 - Howard Owens
There is a very big reason newspaper sites will continue to require registration: It works. It's making them money. People register. And enough people register honestly that it's worthwhile. And hardly anybody complains. Honestly. The blogosphere is a big echo chamber where all they hear is other bloggers complaining. But outside the echo chamber, regular users rarely complain about registration.
And if you're worried about e-mail ... read the site's privacy policy. That's a contract. No major media company is going to put itself at risk by violating that contract with its users.
2 - RJ Elliott
The NYT and WSJ both require registration. And they are two of the most important online newspapers in the country.
Boycotting them really limits oneself.
3 - Mac Diva
The registration also helps with the occassional person who causes the paper libel problems, abuses other users or uses the site for commercial purposes. Even though people might go to the trouble of phony registration, most won't. And, if barred, the person will have register over and over again.
However, I won't register unless it is a major site or one I will use regularly. It is ridiculous to do so as a visitor to a newspaper from out-of-state interested in one story, for example. It would be better to ask people to register if they have visited the site several times.
4 - Ken Edwards
True. But I am lucky enough to be able to walk across campus and be able to pick up both the NYT and the WSJ :)
5 - Ken Edwards
Well, I had this beef before I knew what the heck a blog was. I can name many people who also have no clue what a blog is that have a major beef about this registration issue. But I do see your point about an echo chamber, I am just not coming from that mindset on this issue.
6 - Mac Diva
Ken, are you saying you prefer to read the hard copy if it is convenient? I used to, but for the last couple years, at least, I do most of my NYT, WSJ and WaPo reading on my PDA. I just pop it open while doing various hurry up and wait things. That can also be a way around registration, though I'm registered with all three. Avantgo, the mobile device syndicator, will get all the major stories without the hassle of registrations or sign-ins.
7 - Ken Edwards
Mac Diva, I do prefer print when it is this convenient. Of all the things I use my Tungsten T3 for, I stopped using AvantGo a while ago. I for a while had a bunch of sites sync'd to my Palm all the time. Never used it. Just never clicked with me. Which is odd considering the amount of sites I do read online (of course those don't have paper counterparts). I hear you on hurry up and wait - I just get out a mag or paper, thats just me.
8 - RJ Elliott
But reading a paper on the 'net is free. ;-)
9 - Ken Edwards
RJ, in most cases you are right.
10 - RJ Elliott
Look, I find those registration pages as annoying as the next person. But there is no such thing as a free lunch.
If you wanna read the paper for free on the 'net, you have to get through that page.
It's the "cost" of being able to read it for free. A minor cost, IMO.
Anyway, good post. You brought up a topic that deserves debate.
11 - Eric Olsen
Mac is right about the out of town, looking up one story thing - since they are already tracking yo ass, you shouldn't have to register until at least the second visit.
I don't mind registering as long as I don't have to pay - I see registering as my payment. What I really hate is having to reregister periodically when I delete my cookies. I wish there was an easy way to separate out the cookies I don't want to see deleted but when there are hundreds it takes to much time and effort to try to figure out which one applies to which site.
12 - I.M. Spartacus
Newspapers have no right to demand personal information from paying subscribers. I have paid a lot of money for my Atlanta Journal-Constitution subscription over the years, but when I needed to access their online edition for archived articles they treated me like just one more crop to be harvested from their data farm. How old are you, how much money do you make, etc., etc. I was so insulted that I just made up answers (it was fun to cut some years off my age!). Seriously, no newspaper should ever ask anything from paying subscribers except their account numbers. If they keep offending their subscribers, they will lose us.
13 - Ken Edwards
and that is a major problem with that horse manure! They are gathering all this personal data, and people just get so pissed off about it they fill in bogus data. like they are 90 yrs. old, have only a hight school education, yet earn 150 thou a year.
who wins when people do this? is this an accurate way to gauge advertising or readership?
its just plain pathetic that i cannot go to a newspaper's site that is in my own county and read their news without signing up for an account, obviously asking me things like what occupation i work in, etc, etc.
i just don;t get it and never will.
if you subscribe to the print, and want to get to online archives then they obviously have you name, address, phone, etc, etc. there ya go, their is a paying customer, treat him like a friggin' customer and not some random web surfer who is just wondering about wanting to read the news on your site.
by the way, what the heck is an archive of a newspaper gonna make money from? why should this have value attached to it?
i can go to the library and find that crap on micro fish if i wanted to, or i could go online. which are you going to do? that one always puzzled me too.