Vibration Training beats gym-based regimes, hands down.
Public release, 8th May, 2009, by the European Association for the Study of Obesity, an association established in 1986 and now with 2500 health professionals from 29 member countries, on the results of a controlled study performed at the Artesis University College and the University of Antwerp in Belgium states: vibration exercise machines may help you lose weight and trim the particularly harmful belly fat from the organs. Participants of the study who were part of the vibration training group lost 11% of their body weight and retained their loss at 10.5% after 12 months. They lost an amazing 47 square centimeters of visceral fat maintaining that loss at the final follow up.…
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26 - Di Heap
Brian, I will try very hard to say this within the "comment policy" but do you have a comprehension problem or some other intellectual lack?
Good will, insults, guilt trips
I will say it very simply for you - Vibration Training is a valid form of exercise as an adjunct or replacement for conventional and other exercise forms. It gives excellent results, anyone can do it, most people "like" it and appreciate how very hard it is, a few people "hate" it and never return, like any exercise type.
You are invited to a completely Free trial session. What could be simpler to understand.
Studies - at last we are seeing well designed studies done on good equipment giving proven results But most people try things long before studies prove results. Until you do, I don't see how you can comment so negatively!
27 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Where do I start in regards to both of your supposed intellect?
"What do you mean lack of evidence?"
Has there been any peer reviewed scientific studies that can prove your claims? Please provide links...
"But most people try things long before studies prove results. Until you do, I don't see how you can comment so negatively!"
Well, I guess if trying new things that have no proven positive impact upon my health is what your talking about then I guess I should have tried diet pills as well. Again, I wonder how the people who marketed and the people who bought it feel now?
28 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
*Ooops*
Again, I wonder how the people who marketed Hydroxycut and the people who bought it feel now?
29 - Di Heap
Brian, I realise this discussion isn't going to resolve anything but I need to comment on your comparison with diet pills
Putting any food or drug into your body is allowing a long time effect, maybe 48 hours for any effects to to place - a big risk if you have read No scientific positive studies and many people have reported bad side effects while others say the pills are great and do their job well. Also you would know that you might be allergic to the food/drug even if there are scientific positive studies.
Using a treadmill, a crosstrainer, a vibration machine - you have so much more control, you can stop at any time, even after 10 seconds if you feel vertigo or overly tired or have unnatural pain. Even, as a beginner, if you do 10 minutes and possibly feel sore the next day (extremely unlikely with vibration training but almost a definite with treadmill), you accept that and go back later in the week and do it over again.
Longterm anything you do "might" hurt you. Getting out of bed is a risk. You've chosen not to try out 10 minutes on a vibrating platform because there are no peer reviewed positive studies yet. That's okay, when you are older and need some gentle exercise/therapy vibration training will still be around and there will be no doubt be the positive reports you need. If your eyesight is good enough to be able to read them ;-)
[Note: 1. any exercise that gives you pain 24-48 hours after is bad for you! Pain shows you have overly injured your body and
is a warning not to do it again. 2. Vibration Training can be very hard work Or can be used to provide gentle Therapy to help with gait/walking ability, balance and flexibility.]
30 - Anomo
Brian. Your constant confusion over diet drugs and exercise is a real concern. You have not highlighted any valid reason why you would think vibration training would hurt you.
You speak of studies as though they are everything, so I will humor your logic....
Asprin (NSAIDs stands for non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) or their generic buddies are one of the most peer reviewed products on the shelf, but in England in 1999 they killed 16,500 people. The same as Aids. But I can read plenty of peer reviewed studies that say they are safe?
I say again you live in La La land. [Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]
31 - Di Heap
Brian, I am a qualified NZ Pharmacy Dispensary Technician. I can assure you that while peer-reviewed studies help sales they do nothing to guarantee safety for the user of the product, be in drugs or equipment.
Would you keep taking a "proven results" reviewed, safe drug IF you developed serious side effects? - Afterall, the peer review would have taken into account the % of bad effects and still come out positive!
Gym and studio equipment, including Vibration Machines, are very different to "popping a pill" - we haven't come to that time when all our sensory effects and good health come from a bottle - Until then Vive la Vibration!
32 - Christopher Rose
Anomo, do you have a source for that aspirin fatality information?
33 - Anomo
Been a while since I looked at the figures, and it was in a book , but here is a report that confirms my points...
34 - Anomo
They are VERY conservative figures and only relate to prescribed drugs for arthritic conditions. It approx 20,000 in the U.S. The drug companies will never allow the full figures to be investigated and published.
And its no conspiracy theory, that's just business for those companies.
35 - roger nowosielski
Well, one obvious adverse effect of excessive use of aspirin is inducing bleeding ulcers.
36 - Christopher Rose
Well, I read that report and found claims of estimated deaths associated with NSAIDs, not just aspirin but other drugs too, was 16,500 for the USA, not the UK. The actual figure of estimated NSAID related deaths in the UK in the report is 4,000. So not at all the same death rate as AIDS really.
37 - Anomo
You will find the "hospitalization" figures are closer to the real overall figures, as most never recover and eventually die later from complications due to the permanent damage to the kidneys and liver. Older people have no chance of coming back from this. But by then it can be written off as something else.
This is not to slam drugs, they are our saviors allot of the time. I just wanted Brian to reconsider his " it must be peer-reviewed to be safe and effective" mantra.
It simply is not the realty or truth of the matter.
38 - Anomo
I have never seen a comprehensive independent study on NSAIDs , and I think using logic to conclude the real figures is the closest we can get to the truth.
39 - Di Heap
Controlled formula drugs and controlled use/dose of drugs save millions of lives but even everyday drugs like aspirin and other NSAIDs put many people into hospital daily - and not mainly from overdose but from taking just what the Doctor or Pharmacise told them to take. It's almost impossible to recover- death within a few weeks may be said to have come from heart failure etc but the drug reaction was the real cause. Figures don't show this accurately.
40 - Christopher Rose
I'm more interested in the "logic" you used to write wrong numbers and a false comparison in an attempt to justify your position, particularly as you have been so critical of the integrity of others.
41 - Brian aka Guppusmaximus
Anomo,
My confusion over diet pills versus Vibration training isn't really confusing at all. Both industries provide a product that has more risk than reward.
Sure, Vitamin C could pose a risk if you take a huge overdose,BUT, there is enough information proving the benefits versus the harmful effects as well as consumer history. Just like Asprin, where a large (unadvised) dose could possibly cause serious health issues, a small monitored dose can save you from a heart attack or other heart related issues.
As for WBV & Diet pills, there is no significant, peer-reviewed scientific evidence supporting the claims. There is no history of use that has been documented to back up these statements!
That's my correlation between Diet Pills and your supposed "exercise". As far as I'm concerned, your "technology" is a f*cking joke & when someone points out what should be easily debunked, you have nothing solid to back up your bullshit story and you resort to insults,personal attacks & guilt trips to try to legitimize your stance!
Maybe, next, we should all go out and do some reps with a f*cking jackhammer....
42 - Anomo
I think you are missing my point, it was pure logic.
I did not bring drugs into this conversation so I went with something off the top of my head, my point being one death was one too many by Brians standards. In fact if even 1 person died doing vibration training I am sure Brian would yell about it forever saying "I told you so".
My comparison was precise, you, myself and the drug companies could argue about how many people suffer or die from consuming NSAIDs all we want, but it is clear that no matter how many peer reviewed studies there are on something, nothing is 100%.
[Personal attack deleted by Comments Editor]
Eg. 50 reports of positive research come through for vibration training, but with 200 odd brands available, some that use reports off one machine to sell another lesser model. You can not rely on someone else to protect you and a peer reviewed study can not teach you everything. While he lacks experience but still holds an opinion I believe he is an example of what not to do.
43 - Anomo
"Our studies and previous work all confirm that vibration training is an effective training method in order to improve maximal strength and flexibility as well as various other factors if the training is properly designed"
You will see more studies showing the training methods and the quality of the machines make the difference in useful or useless. All logical to those with SOME common sense and any EXPERIENCE with this technology.
44 - Di Heap
Can I please point you to an unsolicited comment on a previous article. I have no idea who the writer is. He writes of his experience after he bought an "expensive" (made in U.S.A.) vibration machine
More Evidence to Indicate Whole Body Vibration to be Ineffective
Please read the last comment #43
45 - Christopher Rose
Anomo, you have exhausted my patience. If I have to edit out one more personal insult, you are going to be banned. This is your only warning.
Christopher Rose
Blogcritics Comments Editor
46 - Anomo
"Your bullshit story"
Brian can abuse me and call me a liar?
Sorry Christopher I must be confused over the rules. Please explain??????
47 - Anomo
[Edited]
Brian. "Both industries provide a product that has more risk than reward."
Do you want to qualify that statement please. Show me links to your peer reviewed papers showing these platforms are dangerous. Along with a list of the injuries people have sustained using them.
48 - Christopher Rose
Anomo, I fail to understand why you can not see a difference between calling your story bullshit and attacking someone's intelligence.
However, that doesn't matter; I have told you the situation and we aren't going to have a debate about that or our comments policy. Your choices are to comply or be banned, end of story.
49 - Clavos
The study of NSAIDS is ten years old, an eternity in medical science.
It has been rendered irelevant by the development of drugs such as Prilosec and Nexium, which, coupled with regular doctor visits and blood tests, permit most patients to take NSAIDS under a doctor's supervision on an indefinite basis with minimal risk.
50 - Di Heap
Brian, Thank you for your patience and continuing comments. Whether you try this technology or not is your choice alone. I appreciate the chance to debate with you.
Your comment about using a &%$@ jackhammer as an exercise medium; you'd get a hard work-out for sure - But - that's uncontrolled vibration that causes injuries to the user, just like long distance lorry driving can. Exactly one of the considerations that legitimate designers of vibration machines had to work with - the machines comply to ISO 2631, the regulation about safe exposure to vibrations in humans.
So, apart from arguments over the efficaciousness of the machines, I'd like you know these machines (obviously I mean the high quality ones)are purpose designed units; the ones I work with are made to a 9-point design equation. They perform exactly as planned. Add in the strictness of the program (the various poses that users position in during the vibration time) and it's so exacting that I can actually hear when customers are "out of position". Tha machine plus user sound is a "known" and any variation means either machine or user positioning weight on it is incorrect - In this brand studio it's never the machine, they're built like tanks.
51 - Di Heap
Sal proved this: he trialed a Soloflex platform which is a regular stepper platform with a $20 motor attached to the underside to give a bit of instability. he reported that it was useless, that the platform was so small he could hardly even stand on it and that the vibration was so little it could not produce training results.
He was right! But he then applied that test to all vibration machines and vibration training - a totally wrong supposition!
Sal has not yet done a trial and reported results on a high force platform.
52 - Di Heap
Sal, I started off as a skeptic. I wasn't outspoken against Vibration Training as you have been, I was more concerned about the safety of it. Over 2 1/2 years I've read everything I can, online and in print. I've talked to many people and trialed many brands. As you know I'm now an Instructor.
I'm not simple-minded as Phillip Winn called me. I keep on and on learning and I'm not afraid to try out new methods of fitness training. Sal, I still encourage you to trial a proper high force machine. What the @$#% have you got to lose? You might even find it integrates well into the programs you give your clients.
53 - Cindy
Highwire Press is a database of important journals. If you check the little box that says 'include pubmed', then you can find just about any studies you'd care to look at, by keyword.
They will at least show you an abstract and many times you'll see studies listed for free that you can look at.
You could go to pubmed itself, but I prefer Highwire because it contains more journals.
If you have never tried searching for studies this way, I highly recommend it.
54 - Di Heap
Here's another positive study result:
Effects of whole body vibration training on cardiorespiratory fitness and muscle strength in older individuals (A 1-year randomised controlled trial)
Conclusion: WBV training in community-dwelling elderly appears to be efficient to improve cardiorespiratory fitness and muscle strength.
The study showed approx equal results with both regular exercise consisting of cardiovascular, resistance, balance and stretching exercises, and vibration training alone
I can see immediate benefits of vibration training over regular exercise for older people - compliance due to the short time period being one of them. The only negative I see is the lack of social interaction which, of course, is essential for overall good health. So, a mixture of both forms of exercise and we'll have fitter seniors. One or Two Vibration Machines take up very little space compared with a conventional small gym. Looks like detracters are going to have to eat "humble pie" one day soon.
55 - Di Heap
and a reminder of a previously reported study from 2008
Effects of Whole-Body Vibration Exercise on Lower-Extremity Muscle Strength and Power in an Older Population
Thirty participants (mean age=73.7 years).
Results: The VIB group significantly improved ankle plantar flexor strength and power compared with the EX group. However, there were no significant differences between the VIB and EX groups for knee flexor or extensor strength.
Again results showing that Vibration Training gives results equal to or greater than conventional exercise. This study also using seniors who are probably less likely to do the long periods of time required for results using conventional training
56 - Todd29
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57 - Mike Hair
A group of Industry Watchdogs from vibration-training-advice.com that includes Lloyd Shaw, have now pulled our recommendation for HyperGravity completely, and they are now actually blacklisted. This is due to massive breakdown issues that the owners have worked hard to keep from the Vibration Training community, abusing our recommendations and backing. Now that the full truth is known we deem it not ethical to endorse this company or its product in any way.
This was a very hard decision to make, but ultimately the only thing to do to protect the consumer.