Political Punks Square Off - Page 2

"For the most part, they remain silent because they know they're so outnumbered," he said. "It doesn't really pay to voice any dissent in a crowd of a thousand people or more."

....In spite of MTV's Rock the Vote campaign and other initiatives, only 29 percent of the 8.4 million people aged 18 to 24 cast a ballot for president in 2000. Turnout has been in decline since 43 percent of young people voted in 1972.

Gans said the upcoming election likely will see high turnouts because of strong responses to Bush's presidency driving groups on both sides. [AP]

Here is PunkVoter's manifesto:

    The progressive principals that parallel the punk movements' guiding strength drive Punkvoter. This is the time for the punk scene to unite around issues we all care about and that we have all sung about. We must all stand together as one voice in shaping the future of our country. This is not about who is a sellout, who is too hardcore or who is from the west coast, etc…This is about getting everyone to mobilize as a block of concerned voters. Punk bands, punk labels, and punk fans must form a union against the chaotic policies George W. Bush has put in place. He must be exposed.

    Even amongst this coalition of free thinkers, we may not agree on every issue. Nonetheless, we are united around these four basic principals and feel it is time to stand together in questioning our current administration's policies

    ....All of the musicians' reasons for joining Punkvoter are as diverse as the many types of music they play.

    However, we all agree that this administration is moving our country in the wrong direction and we want our opinions heard. We believe in a progressive political umbrella. We have united under the fact that something must be done. Our basic issues include protecting our personal freedoms, restoring our environment, overhauling our current Department of Justice and demanding economic responsibility.

    Protecting Our Personal Freedoms

    Punkvoter is working to fight to defend our personal freedoms and inalienable rights. We will be the loud, clear voice for the many minorities in our society. Our government was created to protect us not harass us. We want to make sure our government continues to guarantee all of our reproductive freedoms, and all of our rights to our own personal privacies. We believe equal rights under one set of laws should be paramount in any modern society.

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  • 1 - BRICKLAYER

    Feb 25, 2004 at 12:39 pm

    Dang, I thought this was gonna be about the Skins Vs. the Punks!

    Anyway, punks aren't supposed to write manifestos and organize voter drives. Their supposed to form street gangs, incite soccer riots, overdose on drugs, eat their own fecal matter and throw it at their audience, turn over cars and then burn them, wear their hair in liberty spikes, carve words in their own and other's flesh, scare soccer moms and Nascar dads, and...wait...no, NO! They shouldn't be doing any of these things either. I guess they oughta do the voter drive thingy.

    GO KUCINICH.

  • 2 - mike

    Feb 25, 2004 at 1:17 pm

    Hilarious. I love the line about fighting "the liberal punk establishment." Can an appearance on O'Reilly be far behind?

    When I lived in L.A. in 1979-80, most of the punkers I met were apolitical or right wing.

  • 3 - Chris Kent

    Feb 25, 2004 at 1:30 pm

    The punks of the early 80s in Austin, Texas were fiercely liberal, though there was an equally fierce conservative faction, which eventually became the skinheads. Most skinheads were pro-military, bigoted, did not drink, did not smoke and even practiced some forms of celibacy - they were peculiar. A lot of that philosophy was inspired by the Washington DC band Minor Threat.

    I can't remember the lead singer's name - Ian McKellan? He later formed Fugazi? Anyway, Minor Threat was great live, but the conservative factions that followed them were as creepy as the hillbillies in Deliverance.

  • 4 - Particleman

    Feb 25, 2004 at 1:34 pm

    it was Ian MacKaye (sp?) and yup, he did form Fugazi. caught them last year at Emo's and really enjoyed the show. though i can't say much about that whole 'straight edge' thing...makes no sense to me.

    are there still skinheads in austin? in my 4.5 years there i never saw one.

  • 5 - Chris Kent

    Feb 25, 2004 at 1:42 pm

    Particleman,

    I went to college near Austin in the early 80s. Lived there after college. Been in Dallas the last five years. I haven't seen a skinhead down there in years.

  • 6 - David

    Feb 25, 2004 at 3:33 pm

    How punk will the draft be for these kids?

  • 7 - Eric Olsen

    Feb 25, 2004 at 3:40 pm

    While the whole straight edge thing is ascetic as hell, I wasn't under the impression it was rightist. On the other hand, when you take any ideology far enough it circles back around and meets on the other side: both Pat Buchanan and Michael Moore oppose the war on terror and free trade.

  • 8 - mike

    Feb 25, 2004 at 3:53 pm

    Punk is just an excuse for throwing furniture out the window. And I mean that as a compliment. All this political stuff is beside the point.

  • 9 - Abel

    Mar 12, 2004 at 10:33 am

    I've lived in Austin for 12 years and have seen maybe 5 skinheads the whole time. They were probably from out of town to see a show. Anyway, the scene "punks" here now are more interested in fashion than anything else, because that's what it has become, just a fashion trend. The teenage punks that come out to see Lower Class Brats, etc. are not that way, though. As if they have chosen a lifestyle. It's good to see the young kids carrying the torch.

  • 10 - Douglas Mays

    Mar 12, 2004 at 2:11 pm

    HHHMMM... interesting comments on anti-political punks of early times. Here in Seattle in the mid70s to mid 80s it was anything but that. The scene that the young future grungers learned from was anything but anti-political. Go to www.cdbaby.com/x-15, sample 'Mad Again' and 'Vaporized' to start with. You might find that what years later evolved into 'grunge' had alot more validity than you might realize. Try www.seattlemusicweb.com also. The get out and vote attitude is really lame. Throw a brick (an offering on this site)
    Anyway, punk is highly political and active where I'm from.

  • 11 - Eric Olsen

    Mar 12, 2004 at 2:27 pm

    I am ambivalent about the whole "get out the vote" endeavor. Part of what elections measure is the level of interest in the election and these efforts skew that. They are also NEVER neutral in their efforts: any get out the vote effort is going to run in favor of liberals/Democrats because adult white males are most likely to vote and most likely to be Republican.

    Ultimately people need to feel some kind of internal desire to participate in the process, it can't be guilteed upon them from the outside and have any lasting impact.

  • 12 - Eric Olsen

    Mar 12, 2004 at 2:28 pm

    by "adult" I meant older, say, 35+

  • 13 - mike

    Mar 12, 2004 at 2:35 pm

    I'm 96 years old, and I still have my own punk band and go to shows every night. Although yesterday I left my teeth at home. So I resent this ageist attack on my generation.

  • 14 - Eric Olsen

    Mar 12, 2004 at 3:20 pm

    that comment won't seem funny at all in another 40 years

  • 15 - mike

    Mar 12, 2004 at 3:45 pm

    Although political punking will be long gone since we'll be forty years into the U.S. military dictatorship that begins on or before November 2.

  • 16 - Eric Olsen

    Mar 12, 2004 at 4:10 pm

    ah yes, how blindly optimistic of me

  • 17 - mike

    Mar 12, 2004 at 4:33 pm

    Well, no wonder: "I certainly feel bad about the suspension of the Constitution and the dissolving of Congress, but as Sean Hamity--with whom I have some disagreements, to be sure (for example, I think the round up of gays is slightly excessive)--says, these are temporary steps, because Bush is firmly committed to democracy--although let me engage in some further hand wringing about the takeover of the networks by Halliburton Media; it is sort of odd that Mr. Democracy does all of these things, but again our resolve must be strong--and since I just parrot the government's line anyway, it doesn't really affect me. Rock on!"

  • 18 - greenradical

    Sep 11, 2005 at 5:35 am

    conservative punks more like skinheads.greedy idiots trying to make punk mainstream so it fades away from its left roots.there scared of the radical left breeding ground that is punk.but all there going to do is make people more left & radical. a change is coming.P.S THE CONSERVATIVES THINK THEY ARE ROYALTY THEY THINK THEY ARE SUPERIOR THAN YOU.PICK A SIDE

  • 19 - Bob A. Booey

    Sep 11, 2005 at 6:23 am

    Conservative punks (ahem, Dave Nalle) don't realize they're, to quote Green Day, walking contradictions. Either they don't understand the spirit of the music and the origins of its politics and identity as a cultural movement or they're just spoiled rich kids who like snotty music to rebel against their overbearing, coddling parents.

    That is all.

  • 20 - average guy

    Sep 11, 2005 at 9:12 am

    who cares what most of these kids think, especially those into this garbage music? NOFX? Misfits? Who are these freaks? MTV is crap! I am sick and tired of most 23 year olds thinking they are important and thinking that what they say is important. You don't know jack shit until you are at least 40. All I need is the proof supplied in many of these blogs. You know who you are. You write this dumb shit.

  • 21 - Bryan

    Sep 11, 2005 at 10:53 am

    Israel left Egypt because Slavery became intolerable.

    Punks are doing the same thing.

    Now all punks need to untie and come to agreeances about who the enemy is ...

    (Zionazis in the government, Builderbergs, The Black pope, The Black Queen, The Satanic regimes of Government, The Edomite house of Talmudic Judaism, The Synogauge of Satan, The Abomination that causes Desolation)

    If all of the youth pointed their collective guns at the babylonian mystery tower it would topple.

    ALL PEOPLE WANTING SOCIAL CHANGE AND TRUE AND LASTING PEACE AND LIBERTY, THE KIND YOU HAVE TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR, START HERE:-

    WWW.JAHTRUTH.NET

  • 22 - Jonny

    Dec 16, 2006 at 8:57 pm

    I think that punk was never supposed to be just left wing or just right wing at all. Look at Joey and Johnny Ramone. We should all be more openminded and stop creating stupid stereotypes about liberals and conservatives...besides, Libertarian is the way to go ;)

  • 23 - Tommyboi

    Jul 24, 2009 at 9:19 am

    I agree mostly with the last two posts. People need to wake up more and constantly seek the truth about the powers that be. Time moves, people mature (usually) nothing stays the same, learn and grow. Unite!

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