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• 26 - Eric Berlin

  Jun 03, 2005 at 6:28 pm

  Eric...Lets put it this way.Suppose it was the other way aroud. Suppose Clinton was running for the job of President and his wife was famous as a serial adulterer , sleeping around with full knowledge of her husband. Do you think you would want a cuckolded fool as your President ?
  
  My position still stands either way. Clinton wasn't the first politician to stray from a marriage, and won't be the last. But the couple worked it out in their own way. If anything, Hillary Clinton is a strong woman for holding her head high and weathering the whithering media storm that she's lived in for the past 13 or so years.
  
  I bet the GOP is salivating at the idea of Hillary getting the Democratic nomination...
  
  I doubt that's the case with anyone who really knows the game. Hillary Clinton will be a formidable presidential candidate. No one should take her (and her supporting cast) lightly.

• 27 - Dave Nalle

  Jun 03, 2005 at 6:34 pm

  >>I am beginning to agree with Former Labor Secretary Reich (sp?) in his assertion that the Democrat Party is on the verge of total collapse.<<
  
  I'm with you, Silas. Reich is a pretty smart guy. Clinton had a lot of very sharp people working with him which gave him the ability to overcome the limits of the Democratic party and be successful. Reich and Dick Morris are good examples. They're very sharp political operatives - less ideological versions of Carl Rove.
  
  The problem is that if the Democratic part collapses, what comes out of it? All it can do is reform itself into something similar. There's no point to it collapsing unless there's somewhere for moderate/sensible democrats to go. There aren't enough of them to be a viable party on their own, so they ought to be praying for a breakdown in the Republican party at the same time, because they need to moderate Republicans to join them if they want to form a politically viable new party.
  
  Dave

• 28 - Eric Berlin

  Jun 03, 2005 at 6:45 pm

  I love Reich and think he's brilliant. He's also fairly liberal.
  
  The Democratic Party isn't going anywhere. Politics is cyclical. From 1990-1992 the Democrats controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. Now it's the opposite.
  
  We'll see what happens in '06 -- I think the country is primed to tilt the direction of our leadership back to the center (if not to the left). I believe Bill Clinton whole heartedly in that it's not new policies that the Democrats need, just a clearer and more persuasive message.
  
  Enter: Hillary '08
  
  I'm really starting to believe that she can be the next (and first female) President.
  
  Clinton / Clark '08
  
  Not bad, eh?

• 29 - Warren

  Jun 03, 2005 at 7:47 pm

  Clinton vs. Rice in 2008. Though I think Condi's too intelligent to let anyone talk her into running for president.
  
  Zaphod Beeblebrox proves it -- anyone who actually WANTS to be President is automatically not qualified for the job.
  
  I think both parties are going to end up fragmenting in the near future. The moveon faction of the Democrats are going to leave, and the far right Repubs are going to leave. Then we'll have two ideological parties, and a "centrist" party that governs by popular opinion and compromise.
  
  Third parties would be viable options now if all the people who said "I'd support them BUT they can't be elected" would just go ahead and support them. Problem is, I know a LOT of people who would end up voting Constitutionalist, and that frightens me more than you all can possibly imagine.

• 30 - Eric Berlin

  Jun 03, 2005 at 7:50 pm

  I disagree on Rice running and the breakup of the two-party system.
  
  Personally, I think Rice would get ripped to shreds by the rigors of presidential politics. She's never had to speak out in blatantly political terms before, and I don't think she could excel at it in the way that one must in order to win the presidency.
  
  And as I stated above, I don't see any major change to the two-party system for the foreseeable future.

• 31 - high tec redneck

  Sep 18, 2006 at 4:35 pm

  Vote my mommy for President in 2008 on the white
  trash platform. Hell, she might be 62, but she is
  5'11", 125 pounds, 44 DD's, and looks good in her Daisy Duke shorts and her halter top barefooted out in the yard with a grand-baby on her hip. She'd probably be the best to choose from.