Today on Blogcritics
Home » Culture and Society » Sarah Palin Book Tour Underway: Drama Ignites

Sarah Palin Book Tour Underway: Drama Ignites

Please Share...Tweet about this on Twitter0Share on Facebook0Share on Google+0Share on LinkedIn0Pin on Pinterest0Share on TumblrShare on StumbleUpon0Share on Reddit0Email this to someone

With the much anticipated release of Sarah Palin’s book, Going Rogue: An American Life, it is already an Amazon best-selling pre-order that many are calling a “phenomenon.” Published by Harper Collins, Going Rogue is set to be released November 17 and apparently with quite the marketing strategy — as if Palin has difficulty drawing attention.

While Palin enjoys widespread popularity and adoration, the criticism and slams are already pouring in, starting with the Associated Press and their reports on her book. The Huffington Post fired an attack entitled "The First Ten Lies from Going Rogue."

Due to the fact that Palin writes about her experience during the 2008 campaign and apparently criticizes some staffers from the McCain campaign camp, many are crying foul, drumming up all kinds of drama.

Last week, Rachel Maddow, in the condescending way reserved for those she doesn't like, featured a Palin book segment, which included Ana Mari Cox, from Air America Radio, Cox claiming she has the “inside scoop” into the McCain camp and a direct line to the McCain staffers.

As both Maddow and Cox whacked around some petty complaints and opinions about Palin and her book, Maddow surmised a gloomy prediction of Palin's reputation. I wonder why don't these "targeted staffers" come out and speak for themselves? Even though I have yet to read Going Rogue, I'm confident it has more to offer than Palin's attitudes about her vice presidential candidacy; nevertheless, many prefer to ignite drama rather than substance.

As the Associated Press stands by their story, Palin fired back on her Facebook page, “Amazingly, but not surprisingly, the AP somehow nabbed a copy of the book before it was released. They're now erroneously reporting on the book's contents and are repeating many of the same things they spewed during the campaign and afterwards. We've heard 11 writers are engaged in this opposition research, er, 'fact checking' research! Imagine that…”

I’m sure there is more criticism looming, but I’ve been debriefed and am certain that when I watch Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher or David Letterman, I will get an earful of Palin bashing.

It wasn’t enough for liberal pundits, politicians, and comedians to take pot shots at Palin and her family, her life, and anything else they found useful in their arsenal of contempt during the 2008 campaign. The left wing media continues its obsession with Palin and their attempt to discredit and demean her at every turn — the criticism is unrelenting and senseless. I don’t quite get it. 

Love her or hate her, Palin is a rock star in the political arena and the pundits, politicians, bloggers, and all the rest might as well get used to it. Palin is here to stay and she is now going on tour!

The official publicity for Going Rogue started with a taped sit-down interview with Oprah Winfrey, which is set to air on November 16 and clips have already emerged along with an Oprah promotion and a statement that directly followed the interview. Palin also noted her experience with Oprah and announced it on her Facebook page: “Oprah was very hospitable and gracious, and her audience was full of warm, energized and (no doubt) curious viewers.”

I am no fan of Palin or Oprah for that matter, but then again my “fan list” is quite short and reserved for people like Mother Teresa and Martin Luther King Jr.  That said, I do admire and respect both of these women and may watch my first Oprah Winfrey Show on Monday with the hope that it goes better than the Katie Couric debacle.

Labeled as a "wide-ranging interview" including insights into Palin's public and personal life as well as her presidential aspirations, the Barbara Walters Sarah Palin special will be a five-part series and is scheduled to begin airing on Good Morning America starting November 17. Palin will also be a guest on Sean Hannity's show November 18 and she may later have interviews with Rush Limbaugh, and other FOX News Channel personalities like Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Greta Van Susteren.

Palin is set for the first part of her book signing tour, for which she will travel across the county to strategically selected locations, starting on November 18 in Grand Rapids, Michigan and ending November 24 in Orlando, Florida.

Many are pondering whether Going Rogue and the Palin publicity tour is the beginning of a 2012 political campaign. Since Palin is full of surprises, we will just have to wait and see. What we do know is that drama sells books and in this case has the potential of catapulting Going Rogue and Sarah Palin beyond a phenomenon.

Powered by

About Christine Lakatos

  • Ruvy

    What has you puzzled, Christine? When you get close to a target, you get a lot of flak. That is what has happened to Sarah Palin. The “liberals” are scared shitless (and angry as all hell that a woman can succeed by not being submissive, but not being liberal either), and lots of “conservatives” are pissed off that a woman of “low breeding” like Palin is doing what they cannot do – ispire the public.

    This is all so amusing…. At least the book is liable to make her independently wealthy. If it does, she will not be beholden to the “power brokers” of American politics – she will be one of them herself.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Ruvy, good insight. The editor of this piece took out the part where I stated “I won’t speculate here on why the Left has such disdain for Palin”. But that is fine, they did a great job in editing as I am not that great of a writer.

    It is rather amusing!

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Sorry, I love Sarah Palin and I will always be grateful to her for one thing.

    Levi Johnston.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Silas, was that meant to be a joke? lol lol
    Didn’t that “slimeball”, just do playgirl mag?

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    It’s a half joke, Christine. Were it not for Levi, Playgirl wouldn’t be back on the national news stage. So, in some small way, Sarah Palin has helped bail out publishing. I do love her, though. Not so much for her politics as for her guts.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Christine –

    There’s two reasons liberals like myself have such disdain for Ms. Palin…and it’s not the fact that she’s a prima donna – most politicians are.

    First of all, when Palin was asked what papers she read, she said she does read the papers…but couldn’t name even one. She thought Africa was a COUNTRY instead of a continent. She didn’t know how many countries were in North America. One has to ask just how much more does she not know?

    But it’s not that she was ignorant of these facts…it’s that she felt no apparent shame at the prospect of being so ignorant, yet being a heartbeat away from the nuclear trigger. Ignorance is one thing – but refusal to acknowledge what’s wrong with staying so ignorant is another thing altogether. One heartbeat away….

    Second, I was one of the charter members of the USS Abraham Lincoln’s SAVI team – it stands for Sexual Assault Victim Intervention – and I was a first responder to assist rape victims. One of the first things we would do is give them a rape kit – clean, loose-fitting clothing, personal cleaning items, etc.

    What does this have to do with Ms. Palin? Wasilla was the only city in Alaska that charged rape victims for the rape kits.

    Yes, I have great disdain for Ms. Palin…but I do NOT fear her, no, not at all. Why? Because she has been exposed for who and what she is, and I smile broadly at the prospect of her being the GOP presidential prospect in 2012…for it’s not the right or the left that decides the elections – it’s the center, and Ms. Palin is at the forefront of the Rabid Right’s war against moderates and RINO’s. Yeah, go Sarah! We DO so hope she’s the GOP nominee!

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Yeah, go Sarah! We DO so hope she’s the GOP nominee!

    I’m with you. And I love her. I know she’s a complete moron and isn’t qualified to be a mayor much less a governor but that doesn’t minimize her chutzpah.

    I, along with you, hope the GOP nominates her in 2012 because I believe Sarah Palin is the catalyst between the ultra right conservative guard and the revamped Republican Party. She will be the poster child of all that is wrong with Republicans these days and once the majority of them are neutralized there will be a vibrant three-party system in this country again.

    I can dream, can’t I?

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Glenn: Thanks for your insight and as I mentioned in my piece, I am not a Palin fan, but it has more to do with her treatment of animals than politics. That said: I was not aware of the “rape kit” thing…so will have to add that to my list.

    I don’t detest her like those on the Left and some in the center and I do feel she has been treated unfairly from the very beginning..it is pathetic.

    Also I did mention the Couric interview was a debacle. Lastly I don’t quite see her as our pres. But she is still a “rock star”!!!!!!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Glenn, the rape kit charge has been pretty thoroughly debunked. There’s no evidence that Palin approved charging rape victims or authorized it, and the police chief in Wasilla at the time said that his preference was to charge convicted rapists if possible, but that victims insurance companies were sometimes charged as a cost saving measure.

    More here.
    and here.

    Dave

  • RICK B.

    When I first saw Sarah Palin, I said ”Oh God”. But when she started to speak, I really took notice. She was the firecracker that got the GOP, and others to notice her. Her ”talk tough” attitude, and all American, patriotic, speeches ignited a lot of people, including myself. I have been a great fan of her ever since. She is attractive, but that’s not the reason for liking her. She was always a compettitor in all things she accomplished. I like her conservative views, and the biggest fact that she went all the way to Irag to see her Alaskan National Guardsmen. That’s alot to say, when no other Governor did that. I did notice the media cheering for Obama who was a Senator for only 143 days, and an Acorn community leader. That makes a guy qualified to be a President? I don’t think so. I feel she got a raw deal. Now Sarah, ”it’s payback time”. Glad she got that redneck Levi out of her daughters life. The guy is a total scumbag. I can’t beleive that people don’t see that? That kid didn’t even have a job. Now he’s the ”great gay poster boy”. Some great father. I’m sorry, I cant support a president who claims that the constitution is ”outdated”, and needs to be changed. And bow’s to the Saudi King, and apoligises to the whole world about America. Ther would be no Germany, France, or Japan if it wasn’t for the millions of dollars in loans that America gave them to rebuild their countries after World War 2. I am not a racist, but he is a dirty politition.I know, I am from Chicago, and he never did anything here of good. Just a pawn for the Socialists Democrats. I’m outta here!!!!

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dave and Christine –

    Grrr…but when I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Dave – thanks for pointing out my failing, ’cause I should’ve detected the funny smell to that particular rumor. Again, Dave, thanks.

    Christine, my apologies for pushing a rumor. But I still do so hope she’s the GOP candidate in 2012…and 2016, too, so she can run against her polar opposite, Alan Grayson.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Dave and Glenn: OK rumor debunked. Whewwww. Take that one off the minus section. Those damn rumors!!!!!!!

    And you go #10 – RICK B.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    When I first saw Sarah Palin, I said ”Oh God”. But when she started to speak, I really took notice. She was the firecracker that got the GOP, and others to notice her.

    There’s no doubt about that. She has star quality.

    Her ”talk tough” attitude, and all American, patriotic, speeches ignited a lot of people, including myself. I have been a great fan of her ever since.

    Her talk tough attitude in simple terms is what’s missing from the national debate. I remain unconvinced as to just how capable she is at being President but won’t take aware her skill in reinventing herself. She’s a novelty in this American culture.

    She is attractive, but that’s not the reason for liking her. She was always a compettitor in all things she accomplished. I like her conservative views, and the biggest fact that she went all the way to Irag to see her Alaskan National Guardsmen. That’s alot to say, when no other Governor did that.

    Let’s talk turkey – Sarah Palin is drop dead gorgeous. She has a gorgeous husband, a beautiful family and just comes across as a small town gal. She’s today’s Betty Crocker, Heloise, Dear Abby and Fannie Farmer rolled into one. We’re a sentimental people who won’t admit it. A smart elderly lady I know, staunch Democrat by the way, loves her. She says that Sarah Palin reminds her of Erica Kane and Vanessa Sterling rolled into one. If any of you All My Children fans or remember Love of Life, you’ll get that point. The lady would never vote for Sarah, but likes her nonetheless. And her visiting the troops was a class act. One thing you can say for Sarah Palin, she’s a patriot.

    I did notice the media cheering for Obama who was a Senator for only 143 days, and an Acorn community leader. That makes a guy qualified to be a President? I don’t think so.

    I think we’re paying for Barack Obama’s lack of experience but overall he’s taken the task with honor and really tried to do what he could. Unfortunately, he has a Congress that’s too cowardly to advance his vision for this country. Like it or not, Barack Obama was elected with a mandate. People really believed he could bring about the changes that have been needed since the days of Richard Nixon. The White House miscalculation was how fast the Democrats would cower under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi.

    I feel she got a raw deal. Now Sarah, ”it’s payback time”.

    And she has a lot of opportunities here that few women are afforded. Let’s hope she doesn’t squander her fame.

    Glad she got that redneck Levi out of her daughters life. The guy is a total scumbag. I can’t beleive that people don’t see that? That kid didn’t even have a job. Now he’s the ”great gay poster boy”. Some great father.

    Oh come on now. Levi is an impressionable kid from a backwater town who has been seduced by the glare of floodlights. Is he a scumbag? Probably. Is he the great new gay poster boy? Well, not really, allegedly he’s not gay. But is he nice to look at? You betcha!

    I’m sorry, I cant support a president who claims that the constitution is ”outdated”, and needs to be changed. And bow’s to the Saudi King, and apoligises to the whole world about America.

    Before blasting Mr. Obama for paying hommage to the Saudi King do your research on the Bush family relationship with the House of Saud.

    Ther would be no Germany, France, or Japan if it wasn’t for the millions of dollars in loans that America gave them to rebuild their countries after World War 2.

    And America would not be the country it is were it not for slave trade and slave labor (Brown University); tobacco farmers, and millions of immigrants who came to this land seeking freedom.

    I am not a racist, but he is a dirty politition.I know, I am from Chicago, and he never did anything here of good. Just a pawn for the Socialists Democrats. I’m outta here!!!!

    Pin all of Chicago’s political woes on Obama. That makes as much sense as saying that Carrie Prejean’s breasts are natural. Chicago machine politics has been going on since day one. Illinois, in general, has a piss poor political track record. Two great men came from Illinois — Abraham Lincoln and Everett Dirksen.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Silas –

    Concerning Palin being ‘drop dead gorgeous’…um, no. In all honesty, I think Sally Field – as old as she is – is sexier than Palin.

    But that reminds me of when I heard that Palin was on McCain’s short list of VP candidates. I told myself right then that it would be Palin. Why? It’s obvious! McCain was a sailor born and bred, and she was (to him) an attractive split-tail (to brazenly use a completely inappropriate old Navy term).

    But ‘gorgeous’? Not to me – she’s too much like Michelle Bachmann. I spent many years around my schizo-bipolar grandmother, and that – like cigarettes – makes a woman extremely unattractive in my book.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    I agree, Sally Field is sexy and seems to ripen like a fine wine with age. Lauren Bacall was like that. I can see comparing Bachmann to a schizo-bipolar but Sarah Palin?

  • Glenn Contrarian

    I think it’s because I see in her eyes the tendency to refuse to believe anything that doesn’t agree with her worldview. Nothing, absolutely nothing will make her question her own beliefs, and the ends she has in mind justify whatever means she deems necessary.

    No sir, I’d stay poor and single rather than to consign myself to life with her.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Here’s something about Ms. Palin’s autobiography

    New York Times reviewer Michiko Kakutani writes:

    Elsewhere in this volume, she talks about creationism, saying she “didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.” In everything that happens to her, from meeting Todd to her selection by Mr. McCain for the Republican ticket, she sees the hand of God: “My life is in His hands. I encourage readers to do what I did many years ago, invite Him in to take over.””

    GOD wanted her on the Republican ticket? Then that leaves two possibilities: either she’s batsplit crazy, or God really likes the Democrats. Personally I think the Good Lord doesn’t care much for our politics, so I’ll go with the first possibility.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Glenn, you seriously think that nutjob socialist Alan Grayson has a presidential run in his future? That’s about the one thing that might give Palin a chance.

    Dave

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Glenn, I’m as areligious as the next guy, but I find your lack of respect for Palin’s faith offensive. Believing in god doesn’t make you nuts unless it impairs your functionality in society. The fact that she sees more than just luck in her success isn’t really a problem, so long as she doesn’t expect god to do her job for her.

    Dave

  • Zedd

    Christine,

    I think that the reason that people are clamoring to interview her is because of the train wreck factor. It’s not because she’s “a rock star”. Spongebob is popular too…. and.

    What really bothers me about your article is that you have really latched on this partisan foolishness and you display your unwillingness to think beyond labels, publicly. I find it disturbing and irresponsible of you for a lot of reasons. One being that you are female and these light articles don’t do much for advancing the notion that we are smart (or can be). Another reason that I am bothered is that we are dumbing down as a nation. Your super light tit for tat, “I just don’t like them” articles contribute to this problem. Why should your poorly considered positions be heard by the world? Being female does not grant you the right to be irrational and lazy in your thinking.

    In essence this article is about defending against the comments that address a book you haven’t read. Really? Your defense (I think) is that she’s a rock star. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, why did you say it, and what does that have to do with anything?

  • Arch Conservative

    Ruvy pretty much summed up it up. Palin drives liberals nutty because she is a prominent conservative woman who many in the public either support and/or relate to, therefore giving her some degree of power/influence on political/social discourse.

    Palin must not have gotten the memo from the DNC stating women and minorities are not allowed to express conservative or right of center views in America in 2009.

    Her mere existence runs contrary to the mythology the left has created that all conservatives and republicans are priveleged white males who exhbit nothing but racism and sexism all day long. Her refusal to buy into this line of crap has led the left to show their true colors as they have not only personally savaged this woman but her daughter as well. Apparently the left’s compassion and sympathy for pregnant seventeen year old girls is contingent upon the political leanings of her parents. Oh and using the decision to give life to a down’s syndrome baby as a political football….just icing on the cake.

    As for my take, as a conservative, of Palin……The fact that she pisses off liberals is pretty much the only value I see in her. She makes a very good attack dog for the GOP but I would never vote for her for president. The same goes for that Arkansas goober Huckabee. He should be doing Subway commercials with Jared telling evryone how he lost 100 pounds, not running for president.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Bing misses the other half of my analysis – on purpose, I think. Palin seems to have “low beeding”. She was pregnant when she got married. She had to fight to get the college degree she has – and obviously did not get A’s in geography or history. “Conservatives” sniff at her, figuring that someone more of “their level” – whatever that means – should represent them. But the bottom line is that beautiful or not, sexually virtuous or not, brilliant or not, she has done what all those other “conservatives” couldn’t manage to do – inspire people.

    Looking at the the Republicans through my own selfish lens, Huckabee, goober or not, says the things I want to hear from an American candidate for president. But frankly, he is as inspirational as a stick of wood.

    Similarly, if Sarah Palin is indeed a believer in G-d, whe will say the things at the top of the ticket that she could not say as the second fiddle attack dog – that Israel should control all of the land west of the Jordan, Arabs be damned (and if Arabs continue their terror attacks in the States, they will in deed be damned). Heck, she could push an Israeli leader to do what rabbis and national camp activists seem unable to accomplish – to display some real pride in being Jewish and some real spine. But she may have another agenda – one kept carefully hidden from her fans.

    In any event, if she does indeed run for the top office in 2012, espect her to know every single African capital of every single failed state on that failed continent. She’ll know what is going on – because she will have made sure she does know. Do you seriously expect a piranha with lipstick to learn nothing from a failed shot at the White House? If you do, you are fools, the lot of you.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Ruvy, I would have thought the history of the 20th Century would have taught you not to support ignorant, inspirationalist political figures…

    Have you decided what to do about your US citizenship yet?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Obviously, Chris, you did not really read my article, did you? Oh, you went over it for personal attacks and the like, checked the links, and all, but you did not read carefully. If you had, you would realize that I’m a suspicious gus, who watches all the “heroes” and “heroines” and notes their clay feet. It is not for nothing that I am an iconoclast, Chris.

    Go back and read carefully – and thoroughly. There is more to this than meets the eye, just as there is a lot more to Sarah Palin than meets the eye.

    I have time yet to worry about citizenship issues.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    #20 Zedd: Hmm, if you don’t like my articles and feel they are dumb and irrelevant, then why do you read them?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Zedd writes, Being female does not grant you the right to be irrational and lazy in your thinking.

    My dear, you barely ever read comments through and by your own admission are too lazy to try to edit what you write. Getting you to write something that is not infested with muzzy thinking generally requires getting you mad for some reason or another. Is that the key that gets you to write like the warrior princess you are?

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Hey Ruvy: Does Zedd write articles here for BC or anywhere else for that matter? I would like to see how rational and diligent they are.

  • Crystal Ball

    Given an extended worsening employment situation in the US, expect a Mrs Palin type — charisma is a key — to ride waves of desperate populism to new heights of anti-otherism. Minorities beware.

    When China’s over-expanding capitalist sector collapses expect war — and fully socialized employment.

    Crystal

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    To my knowledge, Zedd does not write articles for BC. The name Zedd does not appear in the writers index. Of course, once there was a fellow who commented under the moniker “troll” – when I commented that he had never written article here, he huffily sent me to “Mark Eden” – who now comments under the moniker “Mark”.

    So, for all I know, Zedd may be pumping articles by the minute here. Somehow I do not think so. I think she does a lot of writing for a living and views editing her writing here as a chore. This is relaxation for her, not explanation, if you get my drift. But if you want to see what Zedd is like when pissed off, go here to the comment thread and read through the comments.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Thanks Ruvy, checked out that thread…don’t wanna mess with Zedd or whatever her name is. Take care and chat later!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    On one of the Sunday morning talk shows I heard an interesting comparison between Palin and William Jennings Bryan. They do seem to share many of the same characteristics — good looks, great speaking skills, a populist and anti-government message and religious faith.

    Bryan failed as a presidential candidate 4 times, but arguably laid the groundwork for the resurgence of the discredited Democratic party after years of Republican rule, resulting in the disastrous Wilson administration. And Wilson borrowed more than a few ideas from Bryan after running them through an east coast elitist filter.

    However, I think Palin would rather compare herself to Theodore Roosevelt from that same period, who had the charisma and the oratorical skills and the populism, but wasn’t a vacuous fool like Bryan. But the difference is that Roosevelt was probably the greatest intellectual elected since John Quincy Adams. To be a TR she needs to find a real cause to champion, write a few more books and get some federal government or diplomatic experience in the next GOP administration. The next GOP president (in 2012) should offer her a major ambassadorship or Secretary of State the way that Wilson did with Bryan.

    Dave

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dave –

    Glenn, I’m as areligious as the next guy, but I find your lack of respect for Palin’s faith offensive. Believing in god doesn’t make you nuts unless it impairs your functionality in society.

    Dave, I’m a strong Christian, but I also know that evolution is a fact. The problem with Palin is that I’m all but certain that she’ll support teaching creationism in schools – would would further dumb down our educational system.

    There’s nothing wrong with being religious…but there’s everything wrong with forcing one’s religious beliefs on others, and especially on children.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    I agree Dave! Palin is not ready to be pres, but a position somewhere in the White House is a great idea!

  • zingzing

    dave: “They do seem to share many of the same characteristics — good looks…”

    i’ve never found her too attractive. too white bread for me. actually, white bread isn’t the term… to wholesome. she looks like a bore.

    “great speaking skill…”

    you jest. that’s her greatest weakness. well, other than the fact that she doesn’t know what she talks about. but i guess those are connected.

    “a populist”

    look, there’s “purple rain soundtrack” populism (nod) and there’s “titanic soundtrack” populism (nooooo). people have suspect taste.

    “and anti-government message and religious faith.”

    which, of course, leads to religious warfare and government growth. if people realized how supposedly “anti-gov’t” candidates suddenly turn pro-gov’t leaders, they would dismiss those claims straight off. no one with power in the gov’t is anti-gov’t. and i certainly don’t think that “god told me to” has any role in the white house. scary.

  • Baronius

    Dave & Christine, you’re right. Palin has nowhere near enough experience for the presidency. That’s why she shouldn’t have been McCain’s running mate. But time and a Cabinet-level post can heal all wounds and build up a candidate’s resume as well. I hope that Sarah Palin and George Allen each get a second chance in politics during the next Republican administration.

    Ruvy – Speaking of writers’ identities, who’s Bing? I gather that one of us used to use that name, but I don’t know who. It’s confusing.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    To be a TR she needs to find a real cause to champion…

    None of you have followed up on that little link I left you on Sarah. She has one hell of a cause to champion, and until she acceeds to power, you will not hear a peep about it at all – except through back door whispers. She doesn’t need to write books – the books have all been written already, starting with the Book of Joel way back 2,600 years or so ago.

    You folks are all using rational thinking in your assessment of events in the near to medium term future. Rational thinking in 2005 would not have gotten you to the big Zero or to Sister Sarah. Rational thinking in 1997 would not have gotten you “three buildings in the ‘New City’ falling on one day” in 2001.

    You all refuse to recognize the role of what seemed irrational in the ancient world, and you refuse to recognize what is indeed irrational in the modern world. So you do not see straight at all.

    As for writer’s identities, Bing is the actual name of the fellow who broadcasts here under the name “Arch-conservative”. He is a little arch sometimes, but he is more of a moderate in a lot of his views than the moniker he uses would indicate. What gets him into trouble are not his views so much as his attacks and his temperment. I have a similar temperment – but I try harder to curb it.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Ruvy, you must be a little delirious; you didn’t write this article, and there was only one link at all in either of your two comments that preceded mine, to an article that told me nothing new.

    I think your assertion that there is more to Sarah Palin than meets the eye is wishful thinking on your part. She isn’t attractive in any sense, personal or political, just a nasty person appealing to the lowest common denominator, an approach that should be distrusted and even possibly feared by all.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Oh yes, I forgot to add that I utterly fail to see anything iconoclastic in your approach at all, rather the opposite in fact. What makes you think you are?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    Well, Chris, if you are all that smart, maybe you would like to explain to the waiting (rather, sleeping) multitudes what that link in my comment indicates, and why it is not important to consider – put differently, why these sleeping multitudes should continue to sleep.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    I have never claimed to be smart, Ruvy; indeed, I marvel at my ignorance and stupidity or at least shortsightedness almost daily. What I do have is a strong ability not to believe in unsubstantiated nonsense just for the sake of tradition, reinforced by an endless supply of curiosity.

    I don’t have anything to say about the article you linked to.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    “these light articles don’t do much for advancing the notion that we are smart (or can be)”.

    As opposed to your comments, right?

    “Being female does not grant you the right to be irrational and lazy in your thinking.”

    Pot, meet kettle.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    El, good one and I know you are not one of my fans! LOL

    We all have to face the facts, when Sarah Palin’s name is in an article, it draws attention, positive and negative. That’s our society for yah.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    yay! zing is right on the money, imo! bears repeating too.

    “and anti-government message and religious faith.”

    which, of course, leads to religious warfare and government growth. if people realized how supposedly “anti-gov’t” candidates suddenly turn pro-gov’t leaders, they would dismiss those claims straight off. no one with power in the gov’t is anti-gov’t. and i certainly don’t think that “god told me to” has any role in the white house. scary.

    (they’re all pretty scary to me, whether they think god put them there or they simply believe in the delusion of the current system)

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Dave, I’m a strong Christian, but I also know that evolution is a fact.

    And the theory of evolution is consistent with Genesis when one realizes that a “day” in God’s time could very easily be a millennium. Did God shape dirt and make man? Metaphorically speaking, yes. Everything from a molecule of magnesium to a rhinoceros all come from the same base material and that is God.

    Of course, along the way there have been aberrations — a dropped molecule here and there. And that’s how ultra conservatives came to be.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Hi Cindy, been thinking about you and I’m sorry I was rude on my other thread.

    Silas: “with the Lord, one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day” 2 Peter 2:8

  • zingzing

    “And the theory of evolution is consistent with Genesis when one realizes that a “day” in God’s time could very easily be a millennium.”

    ahhh, scopes.

    “i ain’t come from no damn monkee.”

    ahhh, ‘merica.

  • Zedd

    Ruvy,

    Not even you with your nuttiness (and I say that lovingly) could ever accuse me of being lazy to THINK.

    You have no come back. Move on…. I do however want to thank you for not infusing Hebrew or Israel in your post.

  • Zedd

    “Hey Ruvy: Does Zedd write articles here for BC or anywhere else for that matter? I would like to see how rational and diligent they are.”

    Perhaps this is a come back in ditsyland. Not really sure. (?) What do you say???

    But, at least we have another public refutation of the ancient notion of White Supremacy. Who came up with that one???

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Zedd, I am not 100% white. Spanish, Greek, Italian, and French are mixed in there. Gurule, Delagado, and Lakatos!!!!
    May be ditsy at times, but is beats being hateful.

  • Zedd

    Christine,

    What was hateful?

    You cant jab if you don’t want people to jab back at you.

    Christine, I’m not male so I’m not impressed by coyness or the damsel in distress thingy. We’ll maybe if it’s done well….

    You were being a smart alec and I got smart back and off course you went on to act hurt. Sorry Christine, I happen to know that for the most part, we ladies are pretty clever. I’m super girly so no dice. Hug though.

    Now, if you want to talk to the entire planet, be prepared to be thoroughly criticized. Eat your Wheaties, do your research (including what it is that could possibly be shot down about your article- fix it before hand)and prepare for whatever comes. But don’t write a society column in the political section and expect for everyone to simply go along with you.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Right on!

  • zingzing

    christine, just because you’re a bit swarthy (not that you are by any means,) doesn’t mean you ain’t white. “white” may be a strange term, but you fit it, even if you think the spanish, greek, italians and french aren’t… white.

    nearly every white person in america has a similarly mutt-like background these days. i’ve seen you use this argument before… but it doesn’t fly.

    to put it bluntly, there is a possibility that you have non-caucasian blood in you. but then again, that’s true of all of us. i’m probably partially asian, way back. but it doesn’t show through. i’m white. by the geographical locals of your ancestry, you may have some african blood in you. but you, as well, are white.

    i could go on, of course, but this line of conversation quickly devolves.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Sarah Palin is not so much a politician as a professional celebrity — famous for being famous. It’s not like she has articulated a, you know, philosophy or anything.

    And the massive overdose to which we have already been subjected went into overdrive today. I even turned off Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow tonight when their first segments were both about Palin.

    Intellectually and politically, she’s a nonentity. So utterly boring and monotonous and exasperating.

    So go ahead and enjoy this week. I am already nauseated, so I’ll sit out the rest of the discussion — mostly because there is so little to discuss.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    I will add one more thing:

    I’ll never forgive her for the stupid and offensive “palling around with terrorists” remarks from 2008 — even though it’s highly doubtful she came up with that empty, nasty zinger herself.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    45

    Hiya Christine. I am sorry I was rude also. It’s much more fun when you laugh. :-) I have to learn to be more sensitive. Not everyone is a brute like me. But if I get rough, I hope you know I mean no harm.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    28 – Crystal

    I almost missed this by reading the comments backwards.

    Given an extended worsening employment situation in the US, expect a Mrs Palin type — charisma is a key — to ride waves of desperate populism to new heights of anti-otherism. Minorities beware.

    I think this makes the best sense. I am so taken with this analysis I will check out your next part (which I had not considered).

    When China’s over-expanding capitalist sector collapses expect war — and fully socialized employment.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Cindy: I have to learn to not be oversensitive. Truce!

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    And Zing: thanks for setting me straight on my ethnicity, I’ve been confused. But my skin is olive. Maybe the milkman did it???? lol

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Here’s another reason I don’t like Palin, and why I hold most conservative pundits in very low esteem – whenever a news outlet points out inaccuracies or even outright lies by Palin or a neo-con pundit, that news outlet is automatically termed socialist, left-wing, “doing opposition research”…

    …and that leaves me to wonder – when did it become unAmerican to point out when a politician makes an outright lie?

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    …and that leaves me to wonder – when did it become unAmerican to point out when a politician makes an outright lie?

    This from the fellow who condemns Fox News….

    Speaking of which. Apparently, the key item that Obama wanted from Fox – not to pursue the birther issue (thus challenging his legitimacy as president and traitor-in-chief)- seems to have been conceded by that news network. I haven’t noticed the Big Zero going after them lately. Of course, I do not follow American news that closely. I honestly do not care.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Ruvy –

    Of course, I do not follow American news that closely. I honestly do not care.

    Of course you don’t follow American news that closely. That’s why you’re a ‘birther’.

    Because if you’d been following American news closely, you’d have found that the two major Hawaiian newspapers – the Star-Bulletin and the Advertiser – both stated that the ‘birther’ claims were completely false. You’d find that the Hawaii state government says the ‘birther’ claims are completely false. You’d find that the Republican governor of Hawaii says the ‘birther’ claims are completely false.

    I guess you didn’t see the other side of the coin of my question – when did it become patriotic for politicians to continue outright lies when their lies have been publicly exposed?

    And you somehow think there’s something wrong with me condemning Faux News? Here’s ANOTHER challenge! You go digging through the other networks – ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Headline News, and MSNBC – and total ALL of the inaccuracies and lies you find, and I’ll go digging through Fox, and I’ll find more inaccuracies and outright lies told by Fox than you can in all the rest of those networks combined.

    Up to the challenge, Ruvy? You’re probably not – conservatives generally hate doing research…especially when it’s research that’s going to prove them wrong.

  • Tia

    Just proof that the saying “never underestimate the stupidity of the American public” is so true! Only fools will buy her book and support her.

  • zingzing

    christine… so now you are of the olive race? my ex’s skin was olive as well, but you didn’t come from the same place as her.

  • http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com Ruvy

    And you somehow think there’s something wrong with me condemning Faux News? Here’s ANOTHER challenge! You go digging through the other networks – ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Headline News, and MSNBC – and total ALL of the inaccuracies and lies you find, and I’ll go digging through Fox, and I’ll find more inaccuracies and outright lies told by Fox than you can in all the rest of those networks combined.

    What’s in this for me? I like to get paid to do that kind of research, Glenn – minimally, NIS 350/hr (Americans like you get to pay premium prices, but I threw in a NIS 50 discount in there). Someone has to pay the rent and put food on the table.

    Also, other than my fiscal inclinations (as in you buy what you can pay for), I’m no conservative at all. On most social issues I’m just a bit to the right of Mark Schannon, and on most economic issues, I’m somewhat to the left of the lot of you.

    As for your president, it is simple logic that if a man acts like he has something to hide, generally he does. All the palaver from high ranking officials don’t mean shit when a $15 document is being withheld from the public. Full stop.

    As for security, I do what I believe is best for the Children of Israel. And I preach what I believe and stand behind it – even when I cannot stand to do so.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Cindy: But if I get rough, I hope you know I mean no harm.

    We like it when Cindy gets rough and it’s all consensual.

    As for security, I do what I believe is best for the Children of Israel. And I preach what I believe and stand behind it – even when I cannot stand to do so.

    That’s real patriotism, Ruvy. My hat’s off to you.

  • http://www.EurocriticsMagazine.com Christopher Rose

    Ruvy, what would be in it for you to respond to Glenn’s reasonable challenge?

    I suppose actually backing up one of your provocative sounding statements for once with actual facts rather than opinion would be too much to expect.

    As to the birther issue, your logic is indeed simple. Why on earth should the US President waste his time on something that isn’t true?

    If you think people should do that, please go ahead and prove any of the literally fantastic but highly improbable things you believe. Or, you know, take that chip off your shoulder and grow up…

  • Arch Conservative

    “Intellectually and politically, she’s a nonentity. So utterly boring and monotonous and exasperating”

    If she’s such a nonentity then why did Oprah have her on? Why does the left spend so much time attacking her? Oh and believe iut or not there are many of us that find Obama’s teleprompted speeches “utterly boring and monotonous and exasperating”

    “I’ll never forgive her for the stupid and offensive “palling around with terrorists” remarks from 2008 — even though it’s highly doubtful she came up with that empty, nasty zinger herself.”

    And it’s your refusal to forgive her that has caused her so many sleepless nights since the campaign handy. Frankly I don’t know how she manages to go on each day knowing that you’ll never forgive her.

    I’m no great fan of Palin but the extremes to which some people underestimate her intellect while overestimating Obama’s is downright absurd.

    Palin isn’t qualified to be president but then neither is Obama. Just ask our soldiers in Afghnistan which they like better, the hope or the change.

    While I don’t desire to see Palin become president I would find it amusing if Romney were to appoint her to some very high level government position in 2012. hey Obama had all those communist Czars and “the bitch’ as secretary of state..why can’t Mitt have the pitbull with lipstick?

  • Baronius

    Handy, would you prefer it if Palin had said that Obama associated with leaders of an organization which planted bombs? Is it the particular phrasing “palling around with terrorists” that bothers you, or the fact that she pointed it out? Or does it bother you that Obama actually did associate with individuals who sought the overthrow of the US government through violent means?

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    It was cheap political rhetoric, then and now. Obama and Ayers lived in the same Chicago neighborhood and crossed paths. But even if they had each other over for dinner multiple times [they didn’t], Ayers is no longer a fugitive and no longer advocating violence.

    The only thing this had to do with a presidential campaign was its effectiveness as a misleading, gratuitous one-liner. The fact that you would rather play dumb word games than admit that is typical of you, and one reason I rarely engage you on here.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Arch: Being on Oprah doesn’t validate her [non-existent] “ideas.” Winfrey has a nose for stories and people that draw big ratings. As possibly the most high-profile of all Obama supporters, it’s unlikely that she had Palin on because she agrees with her stands on the issues, such as they are.

    And your own intellect is rarely underrated by anyone on here, because of the general level of your discourse [“Communist czars” indeed! Tell that to Czar Nicholas….]

  • doug m

    Who aside from Bill Ayers are the terrorists he hung out with?

  • Baronius

    Word games, Handy? It looks like you’re playing a word game by saying that Obama and Ayers “crossed paths”, as that is the same phrase used by the Obama campaign to USA Today in 2008:

    “The last time Obama saw Ayers was about a year ago when he crossed paths with him while biking in the neighborhood. The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false.”

    The candidate made a similar statement in a debate with Clinton:

    “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from.”

    Do you consider those statements to be candid, or gamesmanship? Keeping in mind that Ayers and Obama had a working relationship, and Obama began his political life with an event at the Ayers/Dohrn residence, at a minimum you’ve got to concede that the Obama camp was trying to divert attention from the relationship with incomplete statements.

  • http://thingsalongtheway.blogspot.com/ Cindy

    Who aside from Bill Ayers are the terrorists he hung out with?

    The ones who work for the govt.

  • Baronius

    Doug – Ayers’ wife, Bernardine Dohrn.

    “We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years. We are deeply affected by the historic events of our time in the struggle against U.S. imperialism. Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.”

    “The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war….Without mass struggle there can be no revolution. Without armed struggle there can be no victory.”

    Bernardine Dohrn
    Jeff Jones
    Billy Ayers
    Celia Sojourn

    For the Weather Underground

  • zingzing

    “We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years. In 30 or 40 years, we shall return with our messiah, and we shall plunge this nation into war and revolution, from which we shall emerge in the loving arms of communism, standing upon the skulls of the defeated ‘real america.’ this is our ultimate plan. liberty! freedom! socialism! evil!”

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Baronius –

    Just because two people just so happen to be on the same committee or board does NOT mean that one is automatically the adviser of the other. It does NOT mean that one member is a friend of the other. It does NOT mean a doggone thing other than that they probably had to discuss issues concerning whatever it was that the committee did.

    Big Fat Hairy Deal.

    My grandmother once worked for the most powerful racist in America. He lived about five miles (practically next door in the country) also once offered to get me into the Naval Academy. Does that mean that I’m a racist, too? Does that mean that I have any interest whatsoever in supporting that racist?

    If you want a professional relationship to gripe about, how about looking up the relationship that George W. Bush had with the Bin Laden family up to 9/11!

    (Can anyone imagine what the Rabid Right would be doing if Obama had had such a relationship with the Bin Laden family? But since it was Dubya, well, that makes it all better, right?)

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    For that matter, Glenn, what about the ongoing relationship the Bush family has with the House of Saud? Why is it that those on the far right have no issue with the relationship we have with the Saudis? Is it because Saudi society is paternal and pretty much keeps women under wraps? Is it because the Saudis have so much financial strength? Seems to me Jesus would be more pleased with Barack Obama than with George bin Bush.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Thanks, Zing, for adding a needed note of sanity to a quite ridiculous discussion.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    One can understand why this bit of baloney was used during the campaign. That’s the way politics is practiced in this country, unfortunately.

    But to pretend that Ayers is even slightly relevant to the current presidency is grasping at straws. Find something else to nitpick about.

  • Baronius

    I didn’t say it it’s relevant to the current presidency. No one here said it is. You brought up Palin’s comment, not me. You said it was stupid, then repeated the campaign’s spin. I just pointed it out.

    It’s true what Limbaugh says: an “attack” is when you read back a liberal’s exact words to him.

  • zingzing

    baronius, that obviously cuts both ways. of course, i could read mccarthy’s words to you and you would have a hard time figuring out if it was 1950 or 2009. you conservatives. you never change.

    “So basically, I don’t know what I’m talking about. But maybe I do.”
    –Jenny McCarthy

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    That’s not fair, zing. The problem is that a certain brand of whacked out conservative has usurped conservatism. These are some of Barry Goldwater’s quotes which apply to today’s political dialogue:

    You don’t have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.

    The income tax created more criminals than
    any other single act of government.

    I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.

    I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

    Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside of the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States.

    There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in ‘A,’ ‘B,’ ‘C,’ and ‘D.’ Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

    How did it happen? How did our national government grow from a servant with sharply limited powers into a master with virtually unlimited power? In part, we were swindled. There are occasions when we have elevated men and political parties to power that promised to restore limited government and then proceeded, after their election, to expand the activities of government. But let us be honest with ourselves. Broken promises are not the major causes of our trouble. Kept promises are. All too often we have put men in office who have suggested spending a little more on this, a little more on that, who have proposed a new welfare program, who have thought of another variety of ‘security.’ We have taken the bait, preferring to put off to another day the recapture of freedom and the restoration of our constitutional system. We have gone the way of many a democratic society that has lost its freedom by persuading itself that if ‘the people’ rule, all is well.

    zing, the bottom line is that the ideals of conservatism have been twisted by the media and a Christian Coalition that is neither Christian or a coalition. From my point of view there can be a melding of Goldwater conservatism and the progressive agenda that would move this country forward. It’s a matter of common sense and that is something seriously lacking in the national debate.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle


    Just because two people just so happen to be on the same committee or board does NOT mean that one is automatically the adviser of the other. It does NOT mean that one member is a friend of the other. It does NOT mean a doggone thing other than that they probably had to discuss issues concerning whatever it was that the committee did.

    So, explain the campaign fundraiser at Ayers’ house and Ayers two visits to the White House in the last 9 months.

    Dave

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Dave –

    Wasn’t it just a couple days ago you showed how I was wrong for not fact-checking the ‘rape-kit’ controversy about Palin?

    Well, when it comes to Ayers’ supposed visits to the White House, now it’s your turn.

    So that leaves Obama with A campaign fundraiser at Ayers’ house. Now WHY would Obama do that? Could it be because DOCTOR Ayers – who received his doctorate in education from Columbia University in 1987 and who is now a PROFESSOR at the University of Illinois at Chicago – is a community LEADER who might know a thing or two about EDUCATION????????

    Dr. Ayers, FYI, is a shining example of how someone who did something very wrong can turn his life around and make something positive of himself. Of course you don’t want to hear that, but here’s the Pulitzer-Prize-winning Politifact.com’s article on Dr. Ayers.

    So that brings us back to Dubya, the Bush clan, and the bin Laden family. Where were all the oh-so-patriotic conservatives when the news came out that Dubya had had close ties with the bin Laden family for years? Hm?

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Dave only cares about facts when they discredit someone else’s argument. Not his own.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    The White House, which has released a more complete list of visitors than has ever before been made public, says that was a different person with a similar name. Perhaps Dave has some other information about this he’d like to share with us?

    Or is he just deliberately throwing out more misleading BS? And let’s assume it’s true [though it certainly isn’t]. What does Dave think the significance of these [imaginary] visits were?

    If you’re just blowing smoke, shame on you. You have sunk low before, but not quite that low.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Zedd: This is from one of the critics you defended. Just an FYI…

    “I cannot claim to have completely read “Going Rogue” — I had to skim the last 150 pages (or more than one-third). I only got the thing into my hands late Monday afternoon with a deadline of early evening.” Statement by Ana Marie Cox 11/17/09

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    I didn’t say it it’s relevant to the current presidency. No one here said it is. You brought up Palin’s comment, not me. You said it was stupid, then repeated the campaign’s spin. I just pointed it out.

    Utter nonsense.

    If it’s not relevant now, why was it relevant a year ago?

    Answer: It wasn’t.

    My point was to underline the despicable, low-blow nature of the phony accusation — coming from this putative heroine of the right.

    So what, exactly, is your point?

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    I assume Tina Fey will guest on Saturday Night Live this weekend. We need something to deflate the obscene hot-air balloon of silly publicity.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Is it me or is the media more in love with Sarah Palin than the rest of us? Granted the media is going to capitalize because they know that Americans love a train wreck. Does her opinion matter in the whole scheme of things? Not really. She appeals to a small-minded dying political base while the remainder of the populace seems to be attracted to watching her implode. Sarah Palin and the saga of the First Dude and the First Offspring makes for Reality TV on steroids, nothing more or less. The only good thing Sarah Palin did for this country was propel Levi Johnston to pin up guy status.

  • Earl

    #83 and #84 –

    Of course if Mr. Nalle had actually paid any real attention to the White House Visitors List he’d have noticed that the William Ayers who visited the White House on May 2 is listed as part of a group of 224 visitors, who are labeled “GROUPTOURS,” and never actually visited the President and in fact never got any closer than the Visitor’s Office (which is in the East Wing, on the other side of the WH complex from the Oval Office).

    The William Ayers who visited on January 27 didn’t actually visit the White House at ALL. He went to Room 128 in the Old Executive Office Building and visited Grace Northern — a 25-year-old from Louisville, Kentucky, who works as a personal assistant to the personnel director.

    Not that I expect Mr. Nalle to back away from his thoroughly debunked allegations. Like #85 said, facts that aren’t convenient to his spin, aren’t his forte.

  • Baronius

    Handy, it was relevant in that both the affiliation and the lack of candor about it revealed aspects of Obama’s character. And it’s not a phony accusation if it’s true.

  • Arch Conservative

    When I clicked on the link I thought I was getting 50 comments but I got less than 15. Just like Obama…dissapointing and not as promised.

    Those of you who insist Palin is irrelevant and inconsequential sure do spend an awful lot of time discussing her.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    I agree Arch!

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Those of you who insist Palin is irrelevant and inconsequential sure do spend an awful lot of time discussing her.

    As previously stated, Americans have a penchant for the bizarre and train wrecks. Sarah Palin is both but I still adore her even in cycling pants. She’s more than a MILF, she’s an AILF (Alaskan I’d Like to F….). Sarah Palin is this week’s balloon boy. Next week it will be something else to captivate the American psyche.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Back at #76 and #77 when the Bush/Saud dalliance was discussed, I’m quite amazed that those on the right seem to glance over that one. Barack Obama bows out of respect to the Japanese Emperor and the Right is spewing venom faster than a hooker spitting out a car window. But make mention of the homoerotic footage of W’s walking down a path holding the hand of the Saudi King and the Right remains stoic. Double standards? You betcha.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    Um, Dave –

    Having been proven wrong before, I learned long ago that the best thing to do is to say, “Okay, I screwed up”. This does not show weakness, but humility…and most people see humility as a positive trait.

    When I thanked you for proving me wrong on Palin and the ‘rape-kit’, it was sincere…and it helps me in a very real way to keep from being too prideful.

    Just a thought, and I know that though it works for me, it may not work for you.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    During his monologue tonight, Jay Leno asked a very pertinent question: is there a possible connection between Liz Cheney’s proposal for the next GOP presidential ticket – Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin – and the Mayan calendar that ends in 2012?

  • Zedd

    Christine,

    On the race thing. It was a quip.

    The idea of race is made up. It means nothing. The boundaries are arbitrary and were simply created to serve the interests of the wealthy to justify their theft from and destruction of various cultures around the globe. Later the “lower” classes benefited because, well who doesn’t want to be told they are better, especially if that has an economic advantage.

  • Baronius

    I just saw the Newsweek cover. Stupid move on her part, posing while leaning on a flag. That being said, I hear that Newsweek is claiming that they didn’t choose the photo to make her look silly. Idiots. It’s another hit piece, and everyone knows it, so why pretend that they weren’t trying to demean her?

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    The photo.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    She demeans herself, and thus makes it pitifully easy to amplify the effect.

    See also: Fey, Tina.

    And welcome back, Roger!

  • Baronius

    Handy, it’s not the press’s job to demean, just report.

  • http://takeitorleaveit.typepad.com/ roger nowosielski

    Thanks, Handy.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    It’s a photo from when she did Runner’s World Mag!

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Newsweek is a jerk for using that one!

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Newsweek, like most print outlets, is struggling financially and is trying to recast itself as a source of provocative opinion and essays more than just a dry recap of the week’s events. This fits right in.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Ana Marie Cox [probably by now having finished reading Going Rogue, Christine!] was on Rachel Maddow’s show last night. She said the petty, score-settling nature of the book is a clear indicator that Palin has no intention of running for office again, ever. She wants to maximize her star-power [and earning power] while she’s hot.

    Cox is in tight with a number of former McCain campaign staffers, and she says that’s their opinion as well: Palin repeatedly “punches down,” attacking staffers that few Americans know by name. And who would ever want to work for her in another political campaign now?

    I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but Cox is a good journalist and was pretty convincing.

  • http://delibernation.com Silas Kain

    Ah, Sarah, sweet Sarah. You are the epitome of the American ideal. You’ve taken your fame to new heights; capitalizing on the fame manufactured for you. In two years, your star shall fade and back to Alaska you will go. There you’ll settle back and smile…

    … with a half billion in your bank account.

    God Bless American Consumers!

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Damn. Glenn, I wrote a nice long comment on the White House guest list issue, and the system ate it. You can imagine whatever you want, apology, sarcastic remarks, paranoid rantings, etc. in its place.

    Dave

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Handy, well thanks for your insight on Cox and Maddow last night, as I watched them right before this article. Convincing OK, but why do they need back to back footage of the drama between McCain camp and her? They just want to demean her as does Olbermann (did you catch some of his BS on her?) and others.

  • Glenn Contrarian

    handy –

    You know, of course, that when you mention Cox and Maddow, the cons equate them with Stalin and Hitler. That’s their rule, isn’t it? Anyone who doesn’t toe the conservative line is therefore a direct political descendant of (pick one) Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, bin Laden…the list goes on.

    I wonder, though, if any of them ever heard of Joe McCarthy….

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    As for “demeaning,” I stand by my #102: Palin takes care of the demeaning all by herself. Maybe we liberals are guilty — of giggling at the self-immolation.

    I certainly don’t expect Keith Olbermann to be nice to anyone as right-wing as Ms. P. But since a significant portion of the book consists of score-settling, Maddow’s show covering the McCain response seems totally legit. And while Ana Marie Cox may well be a liberal, she has given many indications over the last 18 months of liking John McCain a lot. [Well, I used to like him too.]

  • Arch Conservative

    Olbermann, Maddow you’re kidding right?

    Why don’t you just explain to us what Hugo Chavez thinks really went on during McCain campaign?

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    Here is an excellent article on the Sarah Palin phenomenon.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Dan, I love that article!

  • Baronius

    Dan, I’m a big fan of Victor Davis Hanson. I think he hit the nail on the head, that Palin’s got to meet higher standards than her opponents and can’t whine about it. Still, despite Hanson’s (and my) blue-collar sympathies, Palin only has two years of high office. That’s just not enough.

  • http://www.maskedmoviesnobs.com El Bicho

    Dan, if you are going to keep promoting that site, buy an ad

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    Baronius,

    Yeah. Hanson has become one of my favorites as well.

    As to Governor Palin you note, “Palin only has two years of high office.” True; but compared to what and to whom? Experience in high office is neat, but the quality of the experience seems, to me, to be more important than the quantity. VP Biden has lots of experience. So do Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi. The various potential Republican candidates appear to be shooting themselves and each other in the foot.

    Dan(Miller)

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    Here is what I consider a prime example of whistling past the graveyard:

    “Palin’s following will gobble up her book and it will become as much a bible as that King James version, Sarah’s version of what happened. They will love her forever. She will become a talk show host where she will also blast Obama for bowing before foreign powers and being a closet socialist.

    “That part of America has become so predictable, it’s hardly worth paying much attention as it continues shouting, primarily to itself. ”

    So, stop paying attention; get over the Palin Derangement Syndrome. There may be a lesson here in the “Faux” news ratings and how they rose after the White House decided it had to do something.

    Dan(Miller)

  • Baronius

    Dan, we all have different criteria for a president. To me, while experience isn’t sufficient, it’s necessary. I didn’t support Bush in the 2000 primaries because 6 years of governorship wasn’t enough for me. There’s no way I could support Palin or Jindal.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if voters place a lot more value on experience in 2012.

  • zingzing

    dan, palin is impossible to look away from. she’s like a solar eclipse, temptingly blacked-out, but still somehow blindingly dangerous. her public feuding with the ex-son-in-law is hilarious and undignified, as is her continued spat with david lettermen.

    and the rumors she has to endure… she’s just piling on baggage at this point… she quit her job to make her loot, which she will do. but she lost any chance she had to run for office or demand any respect.

    she’s the britney spears of politics. i can’t wait for the day she shaves her head and shows her cooch (i think this is the only context in which i will use that word…) on tv. it’s coming.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writer/dan_miller Dan(Miller)

    OK, how about Lou Dobbs?

    Dan(Miller)

  • Baronius

    Dan, if I understand your question correctly, yes I think it’s entirely possible that Lou Dobbs could shave his head and show his cooch on tv.

  • Baronius

    What, no laughs? That was my A material.

    I think my minimum for a presidential candidate is 8 years as VP, senator, congressman, governor, general, admiral, Supreme Court justice, and/or Cabinet-level official. I’d reluctantly waive up to four years for a CEO.

  • zingzing

    “I think it’s entirely possible that Lou Dobbs could shave his head and show his cooch on tv.”

    isn’t he bald? …my god, he isn’t. i’ve seen him a hundred times and never noticed he has hair. must have been staring at the jowls.

  • http://www.iamcorrect.com Lono

    Here is my theory. It will sound silly at first, and then let it settle. Palin will run in 2012.

    Why would the GOP let her run, when she can not likely win? Because, they are betting on Obama’s popularity (which is admittedly waning) to get him a re-election in 2012. Even Bush got re-lected. So, the GOP lets Palin run. She loses and is out of their hair… and they score a HUGE coup by getting women into the GOP.

    That is what I see unfolding here. Of course, I am usually wrong.

  • http://blogcritics.org/writers/christine-lakatos/ Christine

    Lono: Why would the GOP NOT want to win in 2012?