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Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, and the White Supremacist 9/11 Gun Control Conspiracy

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Regulars on sites like Blogcritics tend to get quite snarky about the so-called ‘Paulbots’, who manifest themselves whenever an article about Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is posted. These commenters range from the rational and articulate to the downright wacky, but are always prepared to promote and defend their hero for as long as the thread stays alive. They pique our suspicions because they appear from nowhere (usually within minutes of publication), have not been seen on the site before, and never visit any other threads. Their modus operandi seems too efficient to be entirely human, so we conclude that these people must be using ‘bots': automated programs which trawl the net looking for key words and phrases and alerting their masters when they appear.

Of course, it’s not only Dr Paul who triggers this behavior. The title of this piece incorporates – in a blatant and potentially suicidal attempt to get as many comments as possible and clog up the author’s e-mail – most of the other topics which tend to attract political ‘bots’. For instance, anyone rash enough to post a piece on the shooting tragedy in Nebraska over the next few days will very likely find their comments thread turned into a protracted verbal fist fight between gun control advocates and members of the pro-gun lobby, most of whom will be newcomers or one-issue visitors to the site.

But do these folks really use bots? Surprisingly, perhaps, there seems to be little evidence that they do. You have to remember that idiosyncratic figures like Paul and Venezuelan populist strongman Hugo Chavez stimulate the imagination and attract a large, highly dedicated grassroots following. And emotive topics like race, guns and 9/11 tend to polarize opinion more dramatically than most, with the opposing lobbies becoming ever more vehement in their stance. If you feel that strongly and singlemindedly about something, an obvious strategy is to go online and find other people who are talking about it. Type ‘Omaha mall shooting’ into Google, for example, and it will take you straight to all the latest news articles and opinion pieces on the subject.

Real political bots – as in computer programs – do exist, of course, but generally they are easy to spot. They leave comments that make no sense or are irrelevant to the topic under discussion, and when challenged they either don’t respond at all or do so with a non sequitur. (Of course, some would say that describes the Paulbots to a tee…)

I’ll leave it at that, and close this piece out with the obvious signoff, that dread cry familiar to any combat veteran: “Incoming!”

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  • Jacob

    “when challenged they either don’t respond at all or do so with a non sequitur”

    This treatise is loaded with fact. You will find no generalizations here.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Jacob, he’s talking about actual software ‘bots, not humaniform Paulbots.

    Dave

  • johnny 5

    I’m not a bot and i support ron paul

  • Clavos

    Doc,

    Are you trying to walk away with the “Most Comments Ever” BC Prize?

    You do realize that all it consists of is an empty pea soup can with Eric’s and Dave’s pictures on it?

    Even with it in hand, you’re still gonna have to pay $5 at Starbuck’s.

    And you’re neighbors will start talking about you behind your back.

  • Clavos

    And on the anniversary of the Day of Infamy, no less.

    Damn, Doc. Have you no shame??

  • http://notinternetsavvytoknowwhaturlis. Rich N.

    I liked the artical, not bad. Just to let you know I’m on deployment surfing the internet, and not a bot. Go Ron Pual.

  • Gretscher

    I support Ron Paul, and I’m not a bot. Just use google news.

  • leanne

    oh give the guy a break. obviously he’s a writer who’s just starting out, and needs to use Ron Paul’s name to get as many hit’s as possible. Lame and predictable. Here’s a hint, if you want to be a writer, research a topic, and then write about it.

  • CynicismIsSo2006

    Yeah, what a terrible thing. People that are actually passionate about their chosen candidate, who chose to take the time to spread the word and correct erroneous stories about Dr Ron Paul.

    Why can’t everyone just take their prozac, vote Hillary and enjoy the ride…

  • Jacob

    Hillary Clinton gets elected President and is spending her first night in the White House. The ghost of George Washington appears, and Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?” Washington says, “Never tell a lie.” Hillary says, “I don’t know about that.” The next night, the ghost of Thomas Jefferson appears… Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?” Jefferson says, “Listen to the people.” Hillary says, ” I really don’t want to do that.” On the third night, the ghost of Abe Lincoln appears… Hillary says, “How can I best serve my country?” Lincoln says, “Go to the theater.”

  • Kerry

    I wanted to post just to disprove your suspicions. Yes we are real. Why do Ron Paul supporters appear so fast and out of no where? We appear so fast because there are so many of us and well one of our big slogans is “google Ron Paul” and we do that on a regular basis and read all we can about our man and will either agree or disagree with what is written. We do tend to post more when we disagree but that is human not bot nature. So called scientific polls may lead some people to believe we are in a vast minority but if you look at the real numbers it paints a much different picture. 94375 people have asked Ron Paul to be their friend on myspace. 82423 people have joined 1317 meetup groups. Over 3700 people donated 4.2 million in one day to Ron Paul and the Tea Party planed on December 16th will only be bigger. You should be happy to get our internet traffic and admit we are real people and real readers not some grand conspiracy of netbots out there to get you.

  • http://www.myspace.com/xtrabiggg xtrabiggg

    As an IT professional, it’s amusing but sad to see the term ‘bot’ so misused in regard to Ron Paul supporters. I surf the web regularly, and find that the plethora of Ron Paul supporters who post on sites are anything but a ‘bot’ phenomenon. THey are fiercely individualistic, and I have NEVER seenan automated response from a purported Paul supporter. The appelation of ‘bot’ in regards to Paul supporters seems to be nothing more than a convenient propaganda device for a writer to dismiss a groundswell of support without actually having to research or prove his theory.

    How much money does Ron Paul have to raise from individual donors, how many people have to show up at his rallies, and how many straw polls does th man have to win, place or show in (despite massive rigging and fraud against him) in order for the media to take him seriously? Of course, the conventional wisdom is ‘he doesn’t poll well’. Have you ever looked at the methodology or actual way these supposed ‘scientific’ polls are conducted? I could pay a pollster to have a poll saying people favor Satan over Jesus by an overwhelming margin, and with the proper way of asking the question, and the right sampling methodology, Americans could be made to look like Satanists in overwhelming numbers!

    It’s time for reporters to actually do their job, and research their stories. Too many just rely on ‘conventional wisdom’ and other lazy writers’ stories as a basis for their own writings. How about actually calling a candidate for a quote before misrepresenting their position? Perhaps it would be a good idea to look at overall support for a candidate, instead of cherry-picking the 1 or 2% of supporters who are ‘kooks’ and ignoring the other 98 – 99% who actually are normal, working citizens who are fed up both government corruption and lazy journalism?

  • Jeff D

    We don’t use bots, we use Google News and sort it by date. We can immediately read and respond to news articles written within minutes of publishing, and we also will sometimes discuss the most crazy of articles on the Ron Paul forums. Most commenting, however, is done independently and fueled by the commentee’s love of their candidate and willingness to defend him in a sea of media who love to discredit and ignore him.

  • bri

    Ron Paul’s support is not form bots, bots can’t raise 12 million dollars. Ron Paul supporters are just addicted to the campaign because it a chance for freedom. I support Paul, I used to hate politics because I thought nothing could ever change, but then I learned about Paul. Honestly it’s not just about Ron Paul it’s the constitution message, I have felt the same way he has my whole life I just didn’t think anyone in Washington felt the same way, and aside from Paul none of them do. They simply lie to improve their standing and never address our people’s needs. I think most of our country has been programmed to feel this way, and now that I see someone who thinks like I do, I will spend hours each day responding to articles like this or any other slander pieces. A year ago I would have called friends of mine that were into politics losers and made fun of them, but now I have become more into it than any of them. I really feel our country has been conditioned to be apathetic, now I realize this and I’m trying to wake up others because our country and our lives could be so much better than what we have now. Until recently I just accepted that I didn’t have a choice, but now I realize that we the people are the ones who should be telling our officials what we want not the other way around. I hate to say it, but our society is so brainwashed that they don’t even want to hear anything about politics and that’s what the people in power want. They abuse us without us even knowing and steal all our money to promote corporations which got them elected and now expect kick backs. We the people are stupid, but not that stupid, we have been fooled for a long time but the internet has saved us, we will no longer be controlled and brainwashed by the mainstream media, who is also corporate run and benifits from keeping us all retarded as well. We may not win this election, but a mass movement has begun and once the freedom bug catches fire you can’t stop it. We will not accept your one world bank and one world government bullshit, we don’t need that to get along with others. Diversity is a good thing as long as people rerspect each other as individuals. The elites of this world , who profit from these wars know their strangle hold on us could be erased in a second, that is why they are fighting Ron Paul’s message so hard.

  • Greg

    They don’t use bots. They are technically literate paulites. They seach for the term “Ron Paul” using the ‘news’link on the google search page and organise by date. I do it every day when I get up and several times throughout the day to get up to the minute news on anything I want.

  • STM

    Doc, you need a good kick up the bot for this.

    Is Jacob a bot, d’ya reckon? He comes out of the woodwork on any Ron Paul thread, yet appears to know nothing about everything.

    Nothing a bit of reprogramming with a piece of 4×2 couldn’t solve.

  • Clavos

    Doc,

    You see what you’ve done?

    You’ve not only subjected us to long, semi literate, boring diatribe after diatribe, but now we even have to endure them in quadruplicate!!!

    And all for Dave’s picture on a soup can…

    Dante saved a very special place for you, mate.

    :>)

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    And on the anniversary of the Day of Infamy, no less.

    Damn, Doc. Have you no shame??

    It’s still the 6th here, Clav. And I wrote it this morning.

  • STM

    Could we be seeing some learned piece on the day of infamy, stitched in to why America needs to remain ever vigilant?

    Dave Nalle, where are you when you’re needed?

  • Gary Blimp

    You think we are all bots huh? Well we are normal people looking for news about Ron Paul that you cant find on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox so we go to a web sight named GOOGLE then we hit News and type in the name Ron Paul. Then what do we find writers like you with out a clue of what you are talking about and other who have it together and get it right about Ron Paul and us bots. Thank you sir have a nice day.

  • JDP

    Hugo Chavez? When did Chavez comment on 9/11? Guilt by literal association tactic? What the hell does Chavez have to do with Ron Paul? Then you wonder why we swarm your comments.

  • Terry L. Smith

    paul couldn’t find it with both hands

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    What I find amusing is that the Paul supporters are here to dispute at length the article’s claim that they are bots, but apparently didn’t bother to READ the article, which in fact says that they are NOT bots.

    At the very least I think they’re cyborgs.

    Dave

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Stan, you’re absolutely right, I should have written a piece on Pearl Harbor today. It would fit right in with the book I’m working on, but my daughter had a christmas concert at school and I had to host a podcast show on BTR – check it out at BigTent Roundtable.

    So my day was too full to write something decent on Pearl Harbor Day, and it deserves decent treatment with lots of quotes from Churchill and Roosevelt and good stuff like that.

    Dave

  • Correction

    They’re called RSS feeds, you nitwit.

  • Gene

    We you have nothing to say…just post a Ron Paul article for hit count stats for potential advertisers.

  • Jason

    I just refresh google news searches for “ron paul” while i’m at work on a computer and comment on the ones I feel need commenting on.

    I just want to know what is going on with the campaign because it changes every 5 minutes or so. People get new ideas, plan new projects, etc all the time. There is a lot to be empassioned about with this campaign. I feel personally connected to it because I have spent a lot of time promoting it. So when a negative article come out, or some ‘reporter’ has his facts wrong I feel personally attacked because I am a part of this. I’ve never felt that way about a candidate before, and to the contrary of what most people think about us, I have always voted republican. I was just the small government kind of republican, not the religious, war mongering type. So yeah, I’d like my party and my country back and I’m fired up about it.

  • Jim

    Google Ron Paul

    That’s where I found him after seeing a sign saying the same thing, and that’s where I get my news about him, Google News.

    Google Ron Paul.

  • Alan

    Bot? No, not bot.

    I just subscribe to Yahoo’s “email me stories on this subject” thingy. You know, because I’m actually interested in the candidate.

    This article really does bring home just how far behind and out of touch the critics are…

  • Verad

    Google uses a sort of web-crawling bot to find and archive new web pages. So yes, in the sense that Paul supporters are using a bot system to find related articles, the verdict is guilty as charged. One of the impressive things about google is that it is able to find new articles often within the first 15 minutes of existence. However, the replies by Paul supporters are just as diverse as the people who show up to his rallies, breaking the traditional political divide, so some strange replies are a given. Try not to overlook the others, though, as I have seen many insightful comments while keeping on top of the news and comments.

  • http://www.myspace.com/neilgregorymusic neil gregory

    lmao that’s funny you say that.. and you are correct I only read articles on this site if Ron Paul is involved. Yes I am borderline obsessed with Ron Pauls campaign. It might be a bit weird, but I like people who speak truth and common sense to the establishment. I actually also like this article it wasn’t bad. I am also a paulbot… a very sexy paulbot at that.. with my paulbot man gland.

    Please Lord I pray to you do not let Hillary get anywhere close to that whitehouse again..

    Vote ron paul! freedom baby.

  • Jonathan

    “They pique our suspicions because they appear from nowhere”

    Sounds like you are working on a theory concerning a “suspicious” group. I think I might get into my black Ron Paul helicopter and head your way.

  • Jonathan

    Oh and if the pain from the gun weilding white power pimp bots of truth get’s to to great for you I have some aluminum based headgear that works quite well for keeping the “bot power” out of your dome.

  • Clavos

    “I just refresh google news searches for “ron paul” while i’m at work on a computer and comment on the ones I feel need commenting on.”

    Does your employer know you’re doing that?

    Are you getting paid for your “work?”

  • Sk00L

    RonPaulBlimp.com Check it! The movement still needs a few more dollars by midnight tonight! For those who know what it means to be an American who love liberty and freedom please consider donating! Thank You your love for America will be felt by future generations.

    oh yeah and ps 010100100001110000010000011111111000000000010000010
    011000010001000011111111100000000001001010 some binary just to assure you I am a bot too!

  • troll

    …watch your language Sk00L – we have a comments censor around here ya know

  • TxSundance

    No bot here! When I’m infront of my computer and a story about the good doctor shows up I read and respond. I read many other articles and blogs online about many topics, but seldom waste time posting comments about unimportant topics. The pursuit of FREEDOM is never a waste of time!

  • Clavos

    Why am I reminded of Pandora??

  • http://www.ronpaul2008.com James

    I put Ron Paul’s name into the key word function of yahoo news. That’s how I find out about all the articles. I do it mainly to see how the rest of the country is reacting to him.

  • Jonathan

    “Does your employer know you’re doing that?

    Are you getting paid for your “work?””

    Nice one Clavos,

    You remind me of that guys who says we should always ask ourselves, “Is this good for the company?”

    Maybe you could offer a prescription drug that could “get us back to work” and to “quit thinking so much”

    Thanks to that kind of thinking is why we are stuck in this Orwellian nightmare.

    WAKE UP

  • The Obnoxious American

    “All I know is I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six anyday”
    – words to live by from Floyd Mayweather, last night on ESPN when asked about the Sean Carter tragedy and whether celebrities should carry guns.

    Sincerely,

    the Obnoxious American bot

  • Clavos

    “”Does your employer know you’re doing that?

    Are you getting paid for your “work?””

    Nice one Clavos,

    You remind me of that guys who says we should always ask ourselves, “Is this good for the company?””

    Assuming Jason’s employer owns the computer and is paying Jason to WORK, not surf the net, it’s a fair question.

    As an employer myself, I wouldn’t give either of you a job.

  • Brian

    Uh, does the author really know anything about what a bot is and what it does?
    Most of the people he is referring to can do a simple Yahoo Alert on RP news, and get emails telling them the latest news posts etc about RP.
    To even imagine the people posting are using bots is hilarious if you know anything about what a bot is used for.

    Bots are used to generate spam, just like you get in your email. They can be used for DoS attacks too by overwhelming a site. They have no AI and generate generic messages.

    The piece is not so much about people maybe using bots, but more about getting more site attention and poking fun out of passionate people who try to get the word out about their candidate.

    We all know the paid media doesn’t talk about RP.

  • What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

    Of course we’re not bots. Just because Ron Paul supporters occasionally surf the news links on Google, and so on, doesn’t make us “bots.” Bots don’t donate over $12 million to a candidate in a quarter, as we’ll do–we’re already at ~$10.8 million.

  • Clavos

    @#44:

    Doesn’t anybody read the article and comments before posting?

    Nobody said RP followers ARE bots.

    The allegation is that they USE bots to find out where RP is being discussed, and then descend on those sites en masse.

    And that much has been admitted upthread, where many have said they google his name, surf the news sites, etc. to do just that.

    Nobody said they are automatons, but I WILL say they don’t know how to read.

  • http://www.coinspiracy.wordpress.com Paul

    unction addLoadEvent(func) {
    var oldonload = window.onload;
    if (typeof window.onload != ‘function’) {
    window.onload = func;RONBOT
    } else {
    window.onload = function() {load bot c:
    oldonload();

    smile :)

  • http://www.coinspiracy.wordpress.com Paul

    bot comments to follow soon stay tuned…….

  • http://patriotessdame.wordpress.com Ciel

    Yep, we’re real and like to see everything that’s written about our “hero”. He is and deserves to be and was the hero of many before he announced his Presidential candidacy. See “what people are saying” on RonPaul2008.com. We will do everything possible and necessary to keep the records straight. And we will go to the polls and vote. And we will enlighten everyone we can possibly reach about his solid voting record (in the best interests of this country and it’s people), positions and stance on the issues before the primaries/caucuses to get them to the polls as well.
    This is a revolution. “The people” want our country, our Constitution and our government “of the people, by the people, for the people” (our Republic) back. This is the way to achieve it peacefully. Read the American citizens creed. This is our responsibility.
    Congratulations on your hit counts today. I hope your server can take it.

  • GOP-Dope

    Just browsing the web, which happens to be the only place to even hope to get unbiased news, waiting for someone to do an objective piece of journalism on the ONLY honest guy in the race.

    Every other candidate panders for votes at the expense of keeping any sort of principles. RP just keeps telling the truth and sticks with his principles.

    I’ve seen a couple of articles written similar to this. It doesn’t slam RP, T/Y very much, BUT it appears to be written to generate traffic for the site. Write a piece on RP and you’ll get plenty of attention for sure.

  • http://www.coinspiracy.wordpress.com Paul

    I have not come across the Paul bots on forums yet, that being said my name is Paul :)

    I do however see bots almost every day on the TV. What do I mean by bots? I mean something that
    is mechanical in nature masquerading or mimicing a human. I see them on EVERY single major network. I wont’ name names or networks,but Some of these bots act
    like they are mean, vindictive, petty, and self-righeous. One in particular is on 5 nights a week, you can spot him easily because almost invariably he will interrupt his guest, and try to demean them as humans should they not share his views.

    Invariably these bots on TV are OBVIOUSLY programmed.So I find is rather amusing that all of this talk about Paul bots beings used on forums and more importantly online polls.

    For the record, I have been an avid supporter of Mr Paul for the better part of 5 years. He was the ONLY voice in the house that was saying anything about how we were losing our constitutional rightgs and becoming a police state.

    I noticed right away when I started listening to him and watching him, that he was a very un-assuming man, quite modest in character, yet he retained an inner strength in spite of this seeming passivity. In short this was someone that I found refreshing and hopeful given the political times, and the Orwellian and un-constitutional world that was becoming omnipresent since ummmm right
    around 2000!

    So, ummm, Im not a bot. I was and continue to be amazed and suprised at his success so far. When I first started listening to him, and occasionally watching him on the floor of the House, I never would have thought that so many people would like him as much as I do.

    You may not agree with all of his positions on the issues of the day, I certainly don’t. He comes across to me, and I assume most of his supporters as a man of integrity. Quite frankly, I cannot remember a time in recent political history when I have felt that way about ANY candidate. Almost without exception when I cast my vote it was for what I perceived to be the lesser of two evils, and always leaving that bitter bad taste in the back of my throat.

    Every time I have seen him I have been impressed. You may not agree with his position on abortion, but cmon folks what do you expect from an obstrician??

    If you want to know if someone who has SWORN to uphold and defend the constitution has reneged on that oath it is very easy. Just ask them about whom has the power under our constitutional republic to declare war. It really is that simple. Asides from the the hokey-dokey,
    and turning their head the other way, and not talking about it, or mentnioning the war-powers act,
    they show their true colors EVERY time. I am not talking about the average american, I am talking
    in particular about those that take an OATH. Politicians, law-enforcement officials come to mind.

    You will notice that very very very very few policitians, or for that matter political commentators, and media folks, that will discuss this. Ron Paul is one of the very FEW who will discuss it, and make reference to it overtly in the political arena.

    The bottom line folks is this war, and the last war, and the war before that, and even one more before that (Korea) were blatantly illegal under our constitution. You know it, I know it, and except for the most vile and pernicious know it too.

    RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT

  • http://www.coinspiracy.wordpress.com Paul

    Addendum to my last post.

    I never supported
    John Dean
    Pat Buchanan
    Ralph Nader
    John Anderson
    Ross Perot

    I do however support RON PAUL

    I suggest anyone who is interested jump over the the hit piece in Newsweek last week, entitled “Highway to Hell”, take a look at the comments. Hundreds of posts, not one that I could find agreeing with Newsweeks blatant attack on Mr. Paul.

    cheers

  • Dale

    To make the matter clear as mud, for those that like their world handed to them at their children and grand children’s expense and the idiot box to tell them what to believe, we use technology called search engines, Google and Yahoo, to alert us when an article, no matter how inaccurate, appears about Ron Paul.

    So frequent contributors, if you use the internet to get your information by using a search engine then I guess that makes you a bot too.

    I just hope you’re a Paulbot so that you can use this information to change the world for the better instead of blathering on about what someone did or didn’t say, like the networks do.

    How about reporting on the bills that just passed the house and are on their way to the senate that allow the government to spy on us Americans and violate more of our civil rights before it become law instead of afterwards or never?

  • emily

    Amusing to a degree but no diggs. Misleading title. Author seems to have little understanding of search engine capabilities. Poor research for article subject matter. Buried.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    OK, now that power outages have got bored with following me around, let me respond to a selection of my fans’ comments:

    johnny 5, #3: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    Rich N., #6: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    Gretscher, #7: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    leanne, #8: It works, doesn’t it? I guess my hypothesis just became a theory.
    Cynicism, #9: Which is exactly what I said in the piece.
    Jacob, #10: LOL.
    Kerry, #11: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    xtrabiggg, #12: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    Jeff D, #13: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    STM, #16 and Clavos, #17: If you don’t like it, you don’t have to read the thread, you know… ;-)
    Gary Blimp, #20: No, I don’t think you’re all bots. But judging by most of the comments so far, a lot of you most certainly aren’t normal. You have a nice day too.
    Terry Smith, #22: But perhaps he can find it using one hand only.
    Gene, #26: I knew this would happen. I’m just wondering where all the Chavistas, white supremacists, 9/11 conspiracy theorists and gun freaks who were also mentioned in the title are. Could it be that they actually read the article, realized that it wasn’t dissing them and decided not to make fools of themselves?
    neil gregory, #31: Thank you! Finally, a Paulista with reading comprehension skills. Glad you liked it.
    REM Paul fan, #44: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.
    Dale, #52: I know. Go back and re-read the article. Fully, this time.

    I think that about covers it. Dave, aren’t you glad you published this article? ;-)

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    And now I’d better go and empty my e-mail…

  • Fed Up

    “They leave comments that make no sense or are irrelevant to the topic under discussion, and when challenged they either don’t respond at all or do so with a non sequitur. (Of course, some would say that describes the Paulbots to a tee…)”

    Read comments #208 – #230 on Malkin’s site

    Come and
    debate your candidate versus Ron Paul here

    Peace,

    Fed Up

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Well, Fed Up, you clearly are not a bot!

    In fact, you’re one of the few Paul advocates I’ve encountered online who argues their position civilly and articulately, rather than with the wild-eyed, cultish devotion we’ve come to expect.

    I must apologize that somehow the citation for that statement of mine to which you responded somehow escaped when I hit the ‘save’ button. It was referring to the bots (not necessarily Paul-supporting bots, please note) that really are automated programs.

    I’ll see if I can find it, and will post a link.

  • LonnieBot

    Out of all the Ron Paul posters here, only one included the obligatory “visit http://www.ronpaul2008.com” I don’t know if that is the sign of a Paulbot or not.

  • Lisa

    I like this blog for some reason (as a Ron Paul supporter). It actually admits we may be human. :o) I think many other bloggers who like to think bots are used forget that there are things like Yahoo! and Google new updates. That’s where this showed up for me. I get about 3 updates in my email a day loaded with new Ron Paul articles. I don’t comment on them all, only ones I find interesting. And I find this one… interesting.
    I especially like your description of yourself. I am a successful sleeper as well. I like sleep and, for some reason, techno.

  • STM

    Everyone here who has replied on these threads but didn’t actually read the story needs a bloody good kick up the bot

  • Jacob

    “Could we be seeing some learned piece on the day of infamy, stitched in to why America needs to remain ever vigilant?”

    The day of infamy should not be forgotten. Those who fought in WWII fought to preserve the rights Americans have under the Constitution. Those who fought and died did so to protect the Constitution.

    Whenever any power attempts to deprive Americans of their Constitution, it is a day of infamy.

    We must be vigilant. But to be vigilant means to clearly see any danger.

    It is way past time to see there is an attack on the American Constitution that is leading to a danger as insidious as Pearl Harbor.

    Recently, the Iraq War manifested itself as one danger to the Constitution. It is not the only danger.

    Pearl Harbor was a cut that bled — but for years we have had attacks on the Constitution that are best described as cancerous growths with subtle symptoms going for years without overtly manifesting themselves.

    Those who don’t care about the evolving symptoms are like those whose lungs have all but stopped functioning but keep buying their Marlboro cigarettes.

    Ron Paul may not be able to solve every problem he would face as president, but there is no other candidate who sees the problems of the country. He is the only one willing to stand up and fight for the Constitution.

    The naysayers will just go on smoking their Marlboro cigarettes.

  • Sara

    My name is Sara and I have RPCD Ron Paul Compulsive Disorder. That is way I am posting this comment. The Dr may have cured my apathy but my RPCD will not be cured until 2008 when I will either be cured or go back to having apathy.

    Dec. 16 teaparty07.com

  • alessandro

    What’s a bot?

  • Jacob

    –noun — a device or piece of software that can execute commands, reply to messages, or perform routine tasks, as online searches, either automatically or with minimal human intervention (often used in combination): intelligent infobots; shopping bots that help consumers find the best prices.

    ——————————————————————————–

    [Origin: 1985–90; shortening of robot]

  • Clavos

    “The naysayers will just go on smoking their Marlboro cigarettes.”

    Kof, kof…and voting for other candidates, most likely…kof, kof.

    Choke, gasp…

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Dave, aren’t you glad you published this article?

    Oh, indeed.

    What I want to know is why Emily thinks she’s writing a telegram.

    I do like the idea of RPCD though.

    Dave

  • STM

    Lol, Sara. Give that woman a beer!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Clav, was that you talking? I can’t see for the smoke.

    [cough, splutter, wheeze, hack, cough, spew…]

  • STM

    Doc: I must confess that I have recently started smoking again, after not doing so for a few years.

    The only good thing about that is that I’m having only having one or two a day, sometimes none. But, geez, it’s a hard habit (addiction) to kick.

    I blame Portugal. That’s where I started again. They all smoke inside. It’s hard to get away from it when you’re out working, or going to functions that you have to be at, and everyone’s puffing away.

    I reckon at a work dinner one night, I was the only person (and one other, maybe) not smoking among a group of 15 or so.

    You can’t smoke in most bars and restaurants here … a lot like the US, so you never get tempted in those situations.

  • JB

    So there is no association between Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez, 9/11, white supremacy and gun control? Was I duped into “manifesting” myself on a site I’ve never been to before… I don’t see any reason to look over other threads.

    Happy Trails

  • STM

    JB, the good doctor is simply making a nice vaild point: It’s the web that does a lot of the work for us.

    We just turn up when we see something that arouses our interest. As you did …

  • Steve

    Just in case you care, I found this article because I selected a Yahoo! alert for any news articles about Ron Paul. They are sent to my email each day. With Ron Paul attracting so little coverage by the mainstream media, Ron Paul supporters are hungry for any word of the media noticing him, and are usually frustrated when it consists of nothing more than lame opinion pieces about his supporters from attention trolling bloggers.

  • Theresa

    Incoming LOL, yes we are here to comment on your article. OMG, Lord help us. Just so ya know, I google Ron Paul News about every morning with my coffee. Yes I’m interested. I want to keep tabs on the media & make sure they get it right, and when they get it wrong, I basically ignore the link.

    THE REASON we do this is because there are people/journalists out there who have no clue. They think Ron Paul is supported by basement dwelling college kids. et hm, I’m far from college days & I own my own house. AND I switched to Repub so I can vote for Ron Paul. PS I only have a cell phone.

    I’d love to see a survey done on this: Voters who switched to Republican to vote for Ron Paul.

  • Theresa

    PS, I read the article :D

  • troll

    I found Fed Up’s discussion with Conservative Cat interesting and wonder how Paul supporters here respond to CC’s question:

    what are Paul’s ‘tangible’ accomplishments in his career that have prepared him to direct the executive – ?

  • Jim McClarin

    If you look at Web traffic stats for the various candidates, you will see that Web activity for Ron Paul far exceeds that of any other candidate. In fact, Ron Paul traffic equals nearly half of the total traffic for all US presidential candidates combined.

    It should therefore be unsurprising that a portion of that usage consists of Paul supporters doing repeated google searches on “Ron Paul” or “Ron Paul Blimp,” etc. to see what effect their energetic grassroots efforts are having in the news. Since blog references also are generated in these searches, hundreds or thousands of Ron Paul supporters can be expected to click on those links to see what is being said. I think it is as simple as that.

  • alessandro

    What’s a computer? My wife keeps telling me my ‘computer is defective and malfunctioning.’ What does this mean?

  • Derek

    I’m not a bot but I will gladly contribute to your comment collection:

    Ron Paul 2008

    R3VOLUTION!

  • Jacob

    “My wife keeps telling me my ‘computer is defective and malfunctioning.’ What does this mean?”

    It means she has found someone with a ‘computer’ that is not defective and is not ‘malfunctioning.’

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    I must confess that I have recently started smoking again, after not doing so for a few years.

    You naughty little Australian you.

    I’m off to England this afternoon, where owing to recent legislation I shall be able to enjoy the novel experience of walking into a pub without needing a machete to cut through the cigarette smoke.

    The Brits may not have separation of church and state but at least now we have separation of tobacco and booze!

  • Jacob

    “what are Paul’s ‘tangible’ accomplishments in his career that have prepared him to direct the executive – ?”

    He doesn’t carry a sign saying “For Sale.”

  • sratiug

    Ron Paul Non-Bot reporting for duty. Interesting you put Chavez in this story. Why doesn’t anyone point out that the voting in Venezuala is monitored for accuracy by internation organizations. If Hugo were in America he would have just stolen the election. Sad when Venezuala has a more functional system than the U.S. Guess they can’t afford electronic voting machines. We surf the web looking for inaccuracies and lies in reporting like the many you will find if you look around. Why no outrage over the major media’s lies and dismissiveness toward Ron Paul? Now there is a story for you.

  • Clavos

    “Guess they can’t afford electronic voting machines.”

    They make electronic voting machines, and sell them here in the US.

    During the last election, 29 states used them, including Florida.

  • Lumpy

    Stratiug AKA BotBoy:

    The MSM literally fawns on Paul giving him coverage far out of proportion to his popularity. They think he’s entertaining and rhey like his availability. Compare how much exposure he gets to the left’s equivalen flake, Kucinich. When’s the las time u saw HIM on the TV?

  • Jacob

    The last time he raised $4 million in one day.

  • http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/12/07/002752.php henry

    I like Ron Paul. I’m not a bot. Found your article through Google news. Good day.

  • Guede

    I wish I were a PaulBot. Then I wouldn’t have to think anymore.

  • Jacob

    What makes you think you have?

  • gnosticgreg
  • Jacob

    Today C-SPAN ran a program from 11/29/07 called “American Perspectives. ”The subject was “Politics and the Internet”

    The talking heads included Arianna Huffington who said Ron Paul Supporters were only young people. I guess that was supposed to imply something negative.

    I actually liked her comment. At my age I like being called young.

    But keep up the bullshit, Arianna…

    Now, I’ll double my contribution on the 16th.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    this is why we get upset

    What, because you read rants by Birchers on LewRockwell.com and have no abilitty to distinguish their propaganda from reality?

    BTW, the actual story in the article you linked to – which isn’t even mentioned is that Huckabee is suddenly way out ahead, not that Paul’s single digit rating is slightly higher than it was.

    But if you want some real good news, check the latest poll from the Iowa Independent which has Paul in 3rd place there. And omg, look – evil, Paul hating Fox News is reporting it.

    Dave

  • Krisann

    My My, Gee, I have Yahoo! Alerts for Ron Paul come to me everyday so I can keep up with my next President. I’m a babyboomer, grandma with a cell phone, voted for Kerry last time and have been a fan of Ron Paul for over a year….just hoping he would run for President. I can’t wait until Dec. 16th so you will have more to write a bot!

  • Alexia

    No bot here. I use Yahoo news, but I will admit to hearing rumors of other Paul supporters using something called an RSS feed. My skill set isn’t that high, but maybe that’s your next story?

  • http://www.morethings.com/photo_gallery_index.htm Al Barger

    What exactly would be the “legitimate” ways of finding and commenting on Ron Paul stories? Are we allowed to use Google Alerts, or would that make one a troll bot? Are simple Google blog searches allowed? Or is it only legitimate to comment on stories that we find absolutely randomly and by accident?

    Perhaps I need to give up my Google Alert for Mr Belvedere.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Jetlagful

    You can search for Ron Paul stories by leaning over your computer speaker and calling out, “Ron? Ron?” for all I care.

    This was just an observation on the commenting patterns of single-issue visitors to blogs – as with Ron Paul, Hugo Chavez and things like gun laws – and how their behavior appears bottish, but on closer examination tends to just be singlemindedness.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Jetlagful

    And I reckon Mr Belvedere could definitely give Ron a run for his money with the old presidenting.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Regarding Al’s link which is so absolutely perfect as a description of the PauBots, you can find the full video on YouTube and it’s worth a watch. If you don’t laugh, then you’re probably a PaulBot and it hits too close to home.

    Dave

  • Jacob

    You see what you want. I saw something of Sean Hannity’s followers and their single-minded crusade to keep the war going in Iraq.

    Could also be Dick Cheney’s followers.

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Cheney has followers?

    I’d argue that no one wants war to continue in Iraq. Even for Hannity’s follower’s the desire is for US forces to stay in Iraq to establish peace and put an end to war.

    Dave

  • Jacob

    Cheney gives speeches and the crazies who follow him cheer.

    “Even for Hannity’s follower’s the desire is for US forces to stay in Iraq to establish peace and put an end to war.”

    Peace? Staying in Iraq means endless war. There is no end. It’s an internal political war and we can’t solve it with our military. In fact, our presence there makes matters worse.

    You believe Hannity’s follower’s don’t want to keep on spending billions for the 104 acre taj mahal embassy and they don’t want the Iraq oil rights?

    Hah!

  • REMF

    What about those fortified compoundbots…?

  • Jacob

    The new American Embassy in Baghdad will be the largest, most expensive embassy in the world: a $600 million massively fortified compound with 619 blast-resistant apartments.

    Of course,with the surge going so well, the fortifications must be considered temporary.

    When “peace” comes after US forces establish it by putting an end to the war in Iraq, the fortified compound with its 619 blast-resistant apartments with special deep structures reinforced to 2.5-times the standard, and five high-security entrances, plus an emergency entrance-exit will no longer be needed.

    The compound will be de-fortified and American taxpayers will get their money back.

  • http://www.elitebloggers.com Dave Nalle

    Peace? Staying in Iraq means endless war. There is no end. It’s an internal political war and we can’t solve it with our military. In fact, our presence there makes matters worse.

    Are you a human being or a parrot? Do you think about what you say or just repeat the old canards? The only way for the government to establish control is with us there to back them up. If we left then you really would doom the country to war, chaos and endless death.

    You believe Hannity’s follower’s don’t want to keep on spending billions for the 104 acre taj mahal embassy and they don’t want the Iraq oil rights?

    Do tell me the scenario under which Sean Hannity’s listeners are going to get oil rights?

    Are you really one of the dupes who thinks the US took control of Iraq’s oil? The Iraqis control their oil and have already negotiated deals with a variety of oil companies to manage the fields and share the revenue with the Iraqi government under pretty standard terms. Hannity listeners were not included in the deal.

    Dave

  • http://www.elitebloggers.com Dave Nalle

    Just out of curiosity, how would you suggest housing our diplomats? In tents? Maybe we could just offer them to meth-addled Sadrist gang leaders as hostages and get them free housing that way?

    Dave

  • Jacob

    Your canard is we are in Iraq for “peace.”

    What a crock!

    “The only way for the government to establish control is with us there to back them up. If we left then you really would doom the country to war, chaos and endless death.”

    Wake up.

    Only they can stop it.

    How many more American lives are you willing to sacrifice?

    How much more paper money do you want the Fed to print to pay for our being there?

  • Jacob

    “Are you a human being or a parrot? Do you think about what you say or just repeat the old canards? The only way for the government to establish control is with us there to back them up.”

    I am a human… with the common sense to know that the only way for the government to establish control is for THEM to establish control.

    You say it is US…

    NO — It is THEM.

    Get it?

  • Jacob

    “Do tell me the scenario under which Sean Hannity’s listeners are going to get oil rights”

    THis is the scenario…

    The dolts don’t get the oil rights.

    They simply have been duped into parroting what Hannity tells them to believe.

  • Jacob

    “The Iraqis control their oil and have already negotiated deals with a variety of oil companies to manage the fields and share the revenue with the Iraqi government under pretty standard terms.”

    Do you have any idea of what the “pretty standard terms” are?

    Is it any better than 70/30 with Iraq getting 30?

  • http://www.republicofdave.com Dave Nalle

    Only they can stop it.

    How many more American lives are you willing to sacrifice?

    How much more paper money do you want the Fed to print to pay for our being there?

    For some people any excuse will do to avoid taking responsibility as individuals or as a nation.

    I am a human… with the common sense to know that the only way for the government to establish control is for THEM to establish control.

    Which is almost impossible for them without some support and security, as ought to be obvious.

    Irrationally cutting and running when it is so clear that recent strategy changes are working just seems insane.

    Do you have any idea of what the “pretty standard terms” are?

    Yes, actually. Based on PSAs in Algeria, Kazakhstan, Kurdistand and other countries it’s typical to set a cap on the contractor’s share at about 70% and then negotiate lower. For example, in the current Algerian agreement Lukoil gets 68.5% while in Kurdistan the Turkish company PetOil which has lower overhead because of their geographical proximity is getting only a 49% share of the oil, while Danish oil developer DNO has a deal where they start out getting all the money and once development expenses are paid they go down to a 40% share. But both these Kurdish deals which are what PSAs for the rest of Iraq are likely to be based on, are under a system which caps the take for developers at 70%.

    Is it any better than 70/30 with Iraq getting 30?

    As I point out above, it will never be worse than that 70/30 split and often better. Each PSA is negotiated individually. But why would you take issue with that split? It’s entirely reasonable given that all the risk is assumed by the oil company and none by the government.

    It astonishes me how even people from capitalist countries can be so fundamentally ignorant of basic principles of business. If you control an asset and want to take it to market, you should realize that the lions share of the final price are likely to be in production, distribution and marketing of that product.

    Do you think that the candy bar you bought at the store for a dollar earns a dollar for the candymaker? More likely their profit after expenses and discounts is somewhere under 20 cents on the dollar.

    Dave

  • Jacob

    “For some people any excuse will do to avoid taking responsibility as individuals or as a nation.”

    Does that mean you take responsibility for the American lives being sacrificed? Are you willing to put your life on the line?

    Does it mean you take responsibility for printing more and more paper money? Are you willing to donate money out of your pocket instead of printing more money out of thin air?

    The Constitution provides no justification for our military being in Iraq. Taking responsibility should mean adhering to the Constitution. That’s something that seems to escape you.

  • Jacob

    “Irrationally cutting and running when it is so clear that recent strategy changes are working just seems insane.”

    A strategy that ‘is so clear’ isn’t so clear — except to those who grasp at any ‘good‘ news to justify their support for a debacle that has lasted longer than WWII.

    The US is not fighting a war — it is trying to play policeman in a foreign internecine feud. Actually, it’s multiple internecine feuds.

    Why should Americans pay for that?

    Why should Americans die for that?

  • http://rightwingdog.wordpress.com rightwingdog

    To steal a line from Shakespeare and modify it a bit:
    out, out damn BOT!

    I too am not a bot and I too can’t figure out one thing that Ron Paul has ever done that makes him even a partially serious candidate for President. It sure appears that I am not alone as his single digit standings in EVERY national poll prove it out. He has all these supporters as Kerry mentioned:

    82423 people have joined 1317 meetup groups. Over 3700 people donated 4.2 million in one day to Ron Paul and the Tea Party planed on December 16th will only be bigger. You should be happy to get our internet traffic and admit we are real people and real readers not some grand conspiracy of netbots out there to get you.

    The real questions are:
    How many of these people are even OLD enough to vote?
    How many of these people are going to vote at all?
    How many of these people are real?
    Do they think this “tea party” thing will impress people and make them rush out to vote for Ron Paul?

  • Jacob

    How many of these people are even OLD enough to vote?

    None. They just have too much money to spend.

    How many of these people are going to vote at all?

    None. They just believe in donating money.

    How many of these people are real?

    None. They exist only in your world of dreams.

    Do they think this “tea party” thing will impress people and make them rush out to vote for Ron Paul?

    No.

    But it is forcing the ‘unbiased’ media to report on who Ron Paul is. But that exposure will still be limited. The media fears to address the real problems facing the country. It us unable to focus on real issues. All the media comprehends is money.

  • Jacob

    BTW, rightwingding, you can’t be a REAL conservative.

  • Lumpy

    “Does that mean you take responsibility for the American lives being sacrificed? Are you willing to put your life on the line? ”

    Jacob. Are u willing to put your life on the line to get us out of Iraq or do you just stick to intellectually bankrupt ad hominems?

    If you really want the troops out of Iraq u should be willing to immolate yourself infront of the white house to make your point. Let us know when. I’ll bring the marshmallows.

  • Jacob

    What intellectually bankrupt ad hominem?

    Who did I offend?

    The one who advocates Americans continuing to die for a lie?

    You say you will “bring the marshmallows” That’s plural. Do you actually believe you have more than one brain?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Jetfuel

    Careful, Lumpy. You’re starting to sound like REMF in reverse.

  • REMF

    “I’ll bring the marshmallows.”
    – Lumpy

    But wouldn’t that entail actually backing up your words with some action…?

  • Irene Wagner

    Me, a Bot? Not a bit of it! I made my debut in blogcritics when I discovered the Ron Paul and the Brain-Off Conspiracy thread, but I typed “Ron Paul+idiot” into Google search my OWN dang self to get here. I came for Ron Paul, but I stayed for the drama. :)

    If Ron Paul supporters ARE bots, then they’re bots who get around with real live, not just virtual, legs. My neighborhood has only been blitzed with door hangers for ONE 2008 presidential candidate so far: Ron Paul. This is in Mitt Romney country, too. There are Vote for Ron Paul signs all over town. It’s all being done by volunteers, all over the country, so the war chest should still be a tidy sum come primary time.

    Tail-end-of-the-Baby-Boomer chickenhawks don’t have any problems sending OTHER people’s sons into Iraq. However, they may change their tune when they realize (through the efforts of enthusiastic Ron Paul campaigners) that by the time their OWN sons grow up, if the US keeps on its current Empire Building “Project of a New American Century” trajectory, it will STILL be sending soldiers into the protracted War on Terror–a war which only seems to fertilize the ground in which terrorists thrive. You know, with declining birth rates, a strong possibility exists for the reinstitution of the draft.

    If I were 18 and about to vote in my very first election, the possibility of endless wars for a succession of imaginatively conceived provocations would cause me to push my concerns about gay marriage and abortion and the credibility of the truthers standing next to me at the Ron Paul rally way down on my list of issues that matter. And sooner or later, hopefully before the Republican primaries are over and done, the same rearrangement of priorities will be happening for their die-hard Right Wing and/or Conservative moms and dads, too.

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Well, Irene, all I can say is that if the War on Terror goes as well in the long term as the War on Drugs, we’ll probably be sitting around in 40 years having this same conversation.

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    I think someone – and I believe it was Dave Nalle – made a rather prescient comment on the whole Doctor Paul debate. There’s a real danger that everyone’s gonna be bored-sh*tless with the very mention of his name come voting time. I live in Britain – and beyond the fact we hear quite a lot about our former colonies over the Atlantic (haven’t you done well for yerselves) in the normal run of the news, you being the only superpower and anglophone and all that the main exposure I get to US political views is here. And, I’m bored! I know that doesn’t matter cos I don’t get a vote and so on, and I should be worried about British politics, but I do think there’s a real danger in over-egging your on-line grass-roots pudding. Then again (and, though I hate to praise myself, I wish more people would say this on here) I could be completely wrong. Haven’t you had pretty low turnouts for elections over there? We do. Perhaps this is a massive re-engagement with politics.
    As I say these are comments from afar so please add a pinch of saline Atlantic water.

  • Jacob

    “On the whole Doctor Paul debate… there’s a real danger that everyone’s gonna be bored sh*tless “

    Unlikely, because of his message.

    But I AM bored sh*tless with the news media replaying the asinine trivia coming from all the others.

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    So, on the morning of Feb. 6, when Rep. Paul has precisely zero committed delegates, what’s the next move for you folks? Where will you channel all this impressive emotion and commitment?

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    Actually, I’m bored of the whole election – and as I say I’m thousands of miles away. I really don’t know how you all cope with it – sheesh, it just goes on and on and then the whole thing’ll start again when you get down to your final toothsome twosome. I actually admire the belief of all you Ron Paulsters – which first hit me on myspace yoinks ago when I was asked to be the friend of a Ron Paul supporter, who set his profile up entirely to that end. I mean fair play, but I do wonder about Paul-fatigue… Is there no chance of a third party this time. And, something I was interested in that was reported over here was a court case by Republicans in California to split the electoral college vote so it represents the vote as a whole rather than being all-or-nothing one way or the other – the way it was represented in the paper I read was that if this case is succesful then you might as well wave in whoever the Republicans pick. Has that gone away?

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    Do excuse me by the way, I’m well-aware a perfectly valid response to my comments would be, “Well f+ck off then, this does matter to us and we’re discussing it amongst ourselves.”

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    The ballot initiative has been described as ‘dead’ a couple of times, but it keeps springing back up as in a horror movie. It would probably award 19 of Calif’s 55 electoral votes to the Republican candidate. In a close election, that would certainly turn the tide. At this point, who knows how close it will actually be?

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    How do you cope Handyguy?? I mean it’s like fucking years man. Over here an election is called – at the whim of the governing party within a maximum Parliament length – and then it’s all done and dusted in a couple of months at the most. And, that’s quite enough for me. Then, you’re system is very much more (potentially) engaging of the voter. My head will fall off by nect November… It would be a shame if a court case changed the rules and would, I imagine, further damage faith in the democratic process.

  • Jacob

    “Then, you’re system is very much more (potentially) engaging of the voter.”

    In this country we say “your” in this context… “you’re” is a contraction for “you are.”

  • http://handyfilm.blogspot.com handyguy

    Our election cycle is absurd, and someday, perhaps, someone will realize it and say:

    “Enough already!
    Iowa: March 1
    New Hampshire: March 15

    “Everyone else in randomly generated groups of 10 states, at two-week intervals after that.

    “No backtalk. Just do it.”

    Actually, both parties tried something like that this year and it backfired. All the states want to be at the head of the line, and all the candidates feel they must declare their intention to run at least 6-9 months before the first primary.

    Any attempt to outlaw that would be jumped on as anti-American, anti-freedom-of-speech.

  • Clavos

    “Actually, both parties tried something like that this year and it backfired.”

    Big time. Democratic primary voters in Florida are disenfranchised by DNC, who has ruled their votes won’t count.

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    How correct you are Jacob, I do apologise for missing my keys, and thank you for pointing it out too, which in this country we call annoying pedantry and condescention… Fair play though. I’m simply curious, that’s all…

  • http://pointlessannointed.blogspot.com/ Colin

    And, of course, it may well be the case that, like this article’s cheeky experiment, the very use of the term Ron Paul is a good way for sites to generate traffic now. I do recall an American chap coming over to the UK sometime last year – I think he was advising the Conservative party – and predicting that your next election will be fought and won on the internet. Maybe he was/is a Ron Paul adviser? Have the other candidates mobilised in this way? I know debates are Youtubed but Paul seems to have the numbers of bloggers and blog commenters. (Again, excuse my ignorance, this is the only source I regularly use for American political punditry, but it has seen several Ron Paul avalanches).

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    Yes, well, we will keep writing articles about the fellow…

    The simple fact is that Dr Paul’s campaign seems to have caught the imagination of the internet generation in a way that no other candidate has been able to. Whether or not that translates to feet in voting booths, we’ll see in a couple of months, when the primaries (finally, thank God) kick in.

  • http://www.bobavakian.net Hugo Chavez Frias

    Fuck this article. Do you know who is the real killer and terrorist of this world? Bush and his zionist warhawks who did 9-11, and killed 1 million iraquis so far

  • Clavos

    ¡Hola Hugo!

    ¿Que te pasó en diciembre?

    ¡Cuéntanos!

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    It strikes me that losing elections seems to make Chavistas and Paulistas go rather quiet…

  • STM

    “iraquis”?

    What, new native American tribe?

  • http://drdreadful.blogspot.com Dr Dreadful

    From what I’ve heard of him, it wouldn’t be beyond the bounds of credibility for the real Hugo Chavez to seek out a piece such as this and comment on it. That is, if he had any spare time that he wasn’t spending appearing on TV.

    He can probably spell ‘Iraqis’ though.