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Massachusetts Gov. W. Mitt Romney, mulling a 2008 run for president, should be a dream candidate for many in the Republican Party.

Popular in his home state and noted as a charming and articulate speaker, Romney, 58, sprung onto the national stage when he oversaw the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, turning what was a potential debt-ridden disaster into a stunning success.

From there, he garnered 50% of the vote in his initial run for governor, in a state dominated by Democrats. Romney discovered upon taking office a $650 million deficit in fiscal 2003 and an anticipated one of $3 billion in fiscal 2004. Romney balanced the 2003 budget, and he finished 2004 with a $700 million surplus.

Romney, the valedictorian of his class at Brigham Young University, is noted as a dedicated family man who does not smoke or drink and who has been a church leader. He is a governor who personally opposes abortion, but would not block a woman’s right to choose. He supports benefits for gay couples, but has pushed for a state constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

In theory, Romney’s conservative pedigree should appeal to the same majority that swept George W. Bush to narrow victories in 2000 and 2004. But, as in Massachusetts in 2002, Romney also should have cross-over appeal to attract conservative Democrats and independents.

But many believe he has virtually no chance of ever capturing the party’s nomination.


Here’s the problem: Romney is a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, more commonly known as the Mormons.

The Southern Baptist Convention website categorizes the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a “cult” that is “radically” different from historic, biblical Christianity. A faith guide issued by the influential Christian right group Focus on the Family declares that “God cannot be identified . . . with the Mormon religion’s notion of god.” The Focus on the Family website features a guide for teaching Christianity to children that lumps Mormons in with pagan worship. And each year, evangelical organizers behind the National Day of Prayer bar Mormons from speaking at their proceedings.

Given that the South has become a GOP stronghold in recent presidential races, many, including Romney himself, believe Romney’s religion would emerge as an issue there should he seek to become the 44th president.

We’re nearly five decades past John F. Kennedy breaking the Protestant barrier, as the nation’s first Catholic president. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), an orthodox Jew, was accepted by most as Al Gore’s vice presidential nominee in 2000. John Kerry (D-MA), a Catholic, was the Democratic nominee in 2004. But the Religious Right, apparently, hasn’t caught up completely.


Romney suggested, in a June interview with conservative magazine Weekly Standard, that his religion could pose a problem for some:

“This is a nation that will always welcome people of faith, and my party, in particular, will welcome people of faith,” Romney said. “I think if you said, ‘Look, we have a candidate for you, and you can know nothing about this person, except [his] religion, that’s the only thing that you can know, this person is a Mormon, but that’s all you can know. Do you want [him] as president?’ Well my guess is with all of the misunderstanding and lack of understanding and differences between one religion and another, that I think a lot of people would say, ‘Gosh, I am not sure that that makes me feel real comfortable.‘”

Others agree:

“I think it likely will matter,” Charles Reagan Wilson, director of the Center for the Study of Southern Culture at the University of Mississippi, told Newhouse Newspapers. “I think he will have to be very savvy and skillful in talking with evangelicals, and I don’t know what experience he has doing that. I think he’s got a hard row to hoe.”

The Rev. Robert Edgar, general secretary of the National Council of Churches and a former Pennsylvania congressman, believes Romney’s faith will be an issue he will have to deal with should he run for president.

“I don’t think it’s a death sentence for a candidate, or a super big obstacle,” Edgar told Newhouse. “I do think that people who express what their faith tradition is have to be authentic about expressing it.”

It would be extraordinarily hard for mainline denomination people in the South to openly and strongly politick or be involved in a Mormon’s run for office,” Bobby Welch, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest non-Catholic denomination and a fixture of the Christian right, told the Boston Globe.

One evangelical leader offered the Weekly Standard a succinct take on whether Romney’s faith would hurt him in the primaries: “Against Giuliani, no. Against Frist, yes. Against [Rick] Santorum, yes. Against Arnold [Schwarzenegger, who is ineligible], no.”

Echoing that thought was Richard Land, who runs public affairs for the Southern Baptist Convention. He told the Globe that if Romney “were running against Bill Frist or George Allen — if [evangelical voters] have a choice between a social conservative who is an evangelical or a social conservative who is a Mormon — most are going to choose a social conservative who is an evangelical.”


Romney’s late father, George, who was also Mormon, ran for president in 1968 when he was the governor of Michigan. He dropped out before the primaries. At the time, Gallup found that 17 percent of respondents would not vote for a Mormon for president, even if their party “nominated a generally well-qualified person” of the faith.

Have times changed? No.

A Gallup Poll in February 1999 that repeated the question again found 17 percent of respondents saying they would not vote for a Mormon.

Orrin Hatch (R-UT), who briefly ran for president in 2000, thought that he could overcome the bias against Mormons within his party. He was wrong.

As recounted by The Hill:

Implying that prejudice was stronger than he had realized, Hatch popped off (prior to the Iowa Caucus), saying,“I am not going to take any crap from anybody about my religion.” The charge that seemed to irritate Hatch the most was that Mormons are not Christians. “I take my Christian faith very seriously,” protested the annoyed candidate.


Romney is doing his part to reach out to the Religious Right, reports the Globe.

Last March, the governor invited Southern California evangelical pastor Rick Warren to breakfast in Cambridge after reading his bestseller, The Purpose Driven Life. Romney has also appeared on syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt’s show, a megaphone to religious conservatives, three times in the past three months.

Will it be enough to overcome religious prejudice within his party?

Don’t bet the farm on a President Romney.


This article first appeared at Journalists Against Bush’s B.S.

About David R. Mark

  • Nancy

    What is scarey is the history of the behavior of the LDS leadership, from the inception, beginning with Smith. In it’s short history, the organization has been implicated (and several times convicted on impartial evidence) of complicity in murder, theft, fraud, and any number of other crimes. Furthermore, the leadership demands unquestioning obedience from all subordinate members, and is accountable to no one. The reigning ‘prophet’, whoever he is (and Mormon creed forbids it ever being a woman, since women are merely considered as breeding animals – physical or spiritual – for men, both here on earth and when they become ‘gods’ in their own universes) and his 2 fellows in the ruling triumvirate of the LDS church are completely, utterly unaccountable, either to the membership or to any other bodies of oversight. Technically, within the church (and within the state of Utah, if not elsewhere as well), that means they exercise absolute power. And we are all well aware of the sayings about absolute power.

    Hence, yes: Mormonism is creepy, and Mormons are scarey. Reading material written by Mormons just makes it more so. Kind of like reading Jim Jones.

  • Ruvy in Jerusalem

    I can’t say anything about the Mormons per se and won’t. But I got awful curious about the comments referring to “magic underwear”.

    I read through the comments to get an idea of what this “magic underwear” was.

    Apparently, the Mormons have instituted a priesthood with sacred clothing. The “magic underwear” are the undergarments desidgned to provide ritual purity to the Mormon priesthood.

    Looking at the comments about “magic underwear” made me understand how our Kohaním will be viewed by ignorant outsiders and non-Jews once the priesthood is re-established here.

  • Nancy

    One could make a case that the “magic underwear” is actually inspired by the Jewish 4-cornered garment w/tassels (tzitzit?), altho the LDS version is covered w/various arcana symbols, especially Masonically-derived ones. If you go to ebay, I’ve seen them on sale there, if you’re interested in seeing what they look like.

  • Maurice

    Mormons give 10% of their gross earnings to their church.

    That is scary. Especially considering the money involved would be larger than state governments tax revenue.

    Example: Utah income tax rate = 7% (highest bracket)

    I live in Idaho where we also have a large percentage of mormons. Our top bracket is 7.8%

  • Nancy

    The LDS church controls huge assets – it’s estimated even more/larger than the RC church, but of course it’s all secret. Actually, from what I’ve been told, a lot of them give more than 10% – 10% in the “suggested minimum” – and frequently there are “special collections” taken by order of Salt Lake City High Command (usually there is no reason given – just a stated ‘goal’ for each stake/parish), but seldom is the rank & file ever told what it’s for, or if a reason is given, it’s vague (like “missionary support”, which is specious, since Mormon missionaries are expected to pay their own way). I do state that this is what I’ve been told recently by active Mormons. AND in addition, each family is expected to stockpile a year’s worth of food & emergency supplies; so they put out quite a bit of their income to the LDS church.

    I personally wouldn’t give a nickel to anyone who was unaccountable for the money, except the US government, & them only because I haven’t figured out a way to avoid it without going to jail.

  • Nancy

    Anyway, back to the issue: yeah, I don’t think Romney is viable, but that’s only part of the reason. As noted in the article, he’s a very cold fish even if he is capable, and Gore tanked for the same reason: not Mr. Personality.

  • Mark Bell

    Ok, first off 10% is supposed to be the minimum and the maximum of the tithe people are asked, actually challenged (Malachi 3:8-12) to give. If you don’t give the tithe as challenged or however you want to put it that is the individuals choice to make. The LDS church is all about choices and personal accountability. If one doesn’t give the 10% asked he forfeits the blessings mentioned in the scripture reference. There are other blessings that are associated with tithing because it is a worthiness thing (but that would take a while to discuss) But basically thats all that happens.

    If someone wants to know where that 10% goes it’s quite simple. It goes to provide power, land, etc. to build churches. There is no paid ministry in the church, all the money that goes into the church goes into building and maintaining buildings.

    As for the special drives for “missionary support” amongst other things mentioned, let me be frank that doesn’t happen. There’s forms that people can donate to if they choose to donate to the missionary department or humanitarian aid or a number of other categories. None of this is mandatory.

    The missionary department itself does more than just send young men and women out into the world. It also pays for the commercials for different video’s, books, etc. on TV. All of that is paid for by missionary funds. The missionaries themselves do pay to be out there as best they can, but there are those who are willing to serve but cannot afford to. In that case the church steps in to help with those funds after all the perspective missionary can do to pay for it himself. There’s also a matter of transportation, housing, and more to be taken care of for the young men and women who are out there. All of that is paid for and where lacking supplemented by the missionary fund.

    If you want some more reading or would like to know what the mormons really believe my advice ask a mormon! Here are a few websites I’d suggest taking a look at afterwards I’ll comment on Romney for president. (take a look around you’ll figure it out) (this is a link to the TIME magazine article about the LDS church which you may be interested in. If you want to find it you can check TIME yourself the article is cited on the page)

    Ok now that I can get off my soapbox… *steps down* Alright as for being president I don’t believe Romney will be elected. But I do believe he’d make a great vice president. The problem is what’s been expressed in the board here, too many people have no idea what the mormons are really like and believe. That will hurt him unfortunately, but if he does get elected vice president people will see that Romney doesn’t have the capability to use “mormon” powers to take over the country and turn people into slaves or whatever. Maybe some more time in the limelight will prove he doesn’t have horns and a tail or whatever. In office as vice president if he distinguishes himself there’s a very good chance that the people will change their views and then maybe in 2012 he can run succesfully for president. Just a thought.

  • Nancy

    I DID ask a Mormon. Several Mormons, in fact, as well as reading quite a bit of material BY Mormons ABOUT Mormons & the LDS church. As you say, it’s a “choice”, but if you make a choice not in accord with the church, you’re also gonna suffer the consequences, which as I have been told BY Mormons, are a little more drastic than just “losing blessings”. Like, say, being pressured to put out the $$ anyway, ostracized in church & out of it, etc. As the saying goes, there are WAYS to get your attention if you don’t tithe & cough up whatever other sums are demanded of you. This is according to people who are lifelong Mormons. They aren’t ex-Mormons. One is a local Stake president.

    A lot of Mormons aren’t aware of some of the less apple-pie-&-mom practices of the LDS church, either in history or current workings. Some of it is only vouchsafed to those who are “advanced”, as the LDS church calls it. Some of it only has come out in the course of criminal investigations – like the Salamander murders in Utah – or other scandals. In any event, the LDS church & its inner workings (especially finances) has always been as secretive & arcane, if not more so, than the Vatican, which is saying something.

  • Nancy

    I just don’t think Romney has the personality to make VP. He’s smart, but he’s got less personality than a wooden cigar store indian (or Al Gore, which is saying something), and the GOP is going to need someone with a helluva lot more charisma than Romney, LDS or no LDS.

  • Lem

    Nancy, I really hope you’re just extremely misguided rather than intentionally sharing such blatant lies.

    For the record, tything or any other donations made to the church are 100% confidential. Members have no way of knowing how much others choose to give (or not give).

  • Simple Guy

    I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (frequently slanged Mormon by those outside the church).

    I believe Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and offers himself as the Savior of the world.

    This is the same Jesus Christ referred to in the Bible. His life and teachings most commonly read about in the New Testament.

    I celebrate Christmas, out of reverence and respect for his birth. I believe he was born in a stable, by the virgin Mary.

    I celebrate Easter, out of reverence for his resurrection. I believe he was crucified on the cross for the sins of the world, and rose again on the third day.

    I believe Christ did many miraculous things throughout his life, including healing the sick, curing the blind, and raising the dead.

    I recognize that it is only through Christ that a person can be saved, and no amount of good deeds or works can allow a person into heaven without him.

    I strive to follow the teachings of Christ. To follow the life that he lived by showing charity and good will to my neighbors.

    I love the Savior Jesus Christ.

    It confuses me that any of my Christian brothers or sisters of other faiths would demean, belittle, or attmept to deny me my faith in Christ.

  • MCH

    So, Nancy…I take it you don’t believe you were ever one of Joseph Smith’s 51 wives in a former life?

    And speaking of scary, Google the Mountain Meadows Massacre sometime…

  • LPJ in Texas

    Ruvy in Jerusalem. You may want to talk to a Rabbi on the subject of the temple garments. The mormons do not use the Aaronic Priesthood garments that were used by the Levites. Instead, they have restored and use the Melchizidek Priesthood garments. You’re Rabbi, if he is knowledgeable on this topic, will be able to explain the difference, including the difference in the markings.

  • Steve

    OK, Simple Guy, just to see if I’m on the same page here, would it be fair to say that you don’t believe Jesus was ‘God in the flesh’???

  • David

    That would be correct Steve, members of the LDS church belive God, Jesus are seperate. Jesus was the son of god.

  • Steve

    OK, Dave, thought so. Do they also believe Jesus is Satan’s brother???

  • David

    Steve, We beleve that Jesus is the son of God. And that Satan is a fallen angle. We also belive that God almight created all things including angles. So my I ask if you belive that Jesus and God almighty are the same?

  • Nancy

    I certainly believe God created angles – angels, too. However, Mormonism remains a ‘scarey’ religion, with highly controversial & unorthodox tenets of belief, like that all males in good standing will become Gods themselves, ruling over their own little universes the same way that God rules over this one, populated by infinite hordes of spirit-children they shall engender with an equally infinite horde of wives. Women, of course, can not aspire to Godhood, just to being the breeding animals for a formerly-human male God. This, and a few other equally showstopping pieces of dogma, are seldom revealed to rank & file Mormons, but only to those who are “advanced” – same as in the RC church where the more esoteric & strange dogmas are reserved for those in Opus Dei.

    I would suggest anyone interested in the nuts & bolts of Mormon history & theology read Fawn Brodie’s “No Man Knows My History”. Herself a good Mormon from an old Mormon family, as well as a trained historian, she writes a very good, rock-solid narrative, warts & all, much to the displeasure of the LDS church leadership who had hoped to keep a lot of LDS church history swept conveniently under the rug.

    And after reading her opus, I can really say, it’s a scarey religion.

  • Steve

    David, are you saying that Jesus is not an angel, like Satan is (albeit a fallen one)??

    I believe in the Trinity, David, that God is 3 persons in one essence, like the Bible teaches i.e. Father, Son & Holy Spirit. All 3 are God.

    Re. Opus Dei, Nancy, I don’t believe that the organisation with that name as depicted in “The Da Vinci Code” holds to all the same beliefs as the one in reality. Be careful with Brown’s book, there is alot of misinformation in there.

  • Nancy

    I meant in referring to them, that just as in the LDS church, some of the more outrageous & esoteric teachings of the upper echelons that would be unacceptable to the rank & file are restricted to those who have proved their unquestioning ingestion of any dogma, no matter how outrageous. Opus Dei is also a scarey organization.

  • David

    Steve, you said “Father, Son & Holy Spirit. All 3 are God” The LDS beleave Father, Son & Holy Spirit. All 3 are Gods. One in porpoise but three seperate beings.

    Matthew 3:12-17 says

    [13] Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
    [14] But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
    [15] And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
    [16] And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
    [17] And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    I do not belive god, the holy ghost and jesus are talking to themselves. The Trinity was decided I think by council of Nicea by a bunch of men who belive the heavens were sealed and fought over weather 3=1. Before that time Jesus was concidered the god of this world but not God almighty.

    I hope this give you a better understanding of my belives.

    P.S. Sorry for the spelling.

  • Steve

    Okay, David. So where Christians would consider themselves theists (a belief in one God), you consider yourselves polytheists (a belief in more than one god), then, right?? So, on that point, you have more in common with, say, Hindus, than with Jews, Muslims or Christians?? Right??

  • dot

    Mormonism, so called, is Christianity.

  • Betrayed

    Magic Underwear? Creepy? Given enough time I could come up with a few more. Is it true? Oh YES it sure is! You asked if that person knew any Mormons? Well, My brother, who married a lovely woman, had a son… they bought a trailer and took a tour os the USA. When they got to UTAH, made the terrible mistake of signing the guest book on a tour of a temple or whatever they toured (couldn’t have been a Temple, as only hallowed, special, perfect in all things, are allowed in there to take part in secret, unknown proceedings), in no time flat after they return home, a knock on their door and two 10 foot tall 95 pound soaking wet boys were there to have them sign their lives away to the great God, Joseph Smith. My brother wanted no part of it, but my sister in law signed away, dragged their son into it, then they had a daughter and she was right in (both were) before they could say their own names. My brother allowed it.. went along with it.. supported it.. did everything to ensure they were happy and even defended them when others persecuted them for it… like myself, because I knew better thanks to the “real” Bible wherein it states: “PROVE ALL THINGS, Hold fast to that which is good.” IMO, Mormonism is evil, always was always will be, regardless of how goodie-two-shoes they try to pawn themselves off as.

    Okay, cut to the chase time. My Neice is now 21, she’s been introduced to a boy who just finished his 2 year mission. Can anyone say “Arranged Marriage?” So, they were to marry… only problem being.. DAD who supported her all those 20 years and gave his OKAY to being a Mormon, even though he wasn’t always happy with some of the goings on, was now told because he was NOT a Mormon, that he could not attend the wedding ceremony….why? Because he was not WORTHY!! LOL Family values? “They don’t compromise, they love and care of their families?” Boy, what a pile of doggie-doodoo After you bring up, care for, love unconditionally, a daughter who you want to make SURE she’s protected from some slimy, perverted MAN (that’s they way we all are about our daughters. right)… are NOT going to accept very well, that he will not be allowed to give his own daughters hand away in Marriage! Any father would FREAK if he was robbed of that RIGHT! Well, it happened anyway, under his nose… he even tried to storm the temple (not by force) to be there.. that’s all he wanted.. to BE there to see his daughter being given away. Well, TWO of the Temple Nazis (Guards) grabbed him by the arms and escorted him back outside and said they’d call the police if he tried again. GOOD FAMILY VALUES you say? I say again, Mormonism is a Cult… not Christian in the slightest. They knock on your door carrying a Bible in hand… and as soon as you let them in, the Bible goes back in their satchel and out comes the Book of Mormon, designed to mislead you about the lies of one Joseph Smith, who probably ate too much Peyote one day, saw a vision.. and I could go on for hours, proving it’s all so phony, like it is.

    My nephew… he does his 2 year mission now… this is after my neice is married (Oh, incidently, she no longer talks to her dad.. the Mormon hierarchy forbade her to have any contact with him.. and I guess she’s going along with it). Can anyone say “Mind Control? Brainwashing?” Now, years later she now has 6 kids.. SIX!! Gotta turn Mormon women into baby making machines to drum up millions of drones to feed the church Billions of Dollars, that they use to help people with. HAHAHAHA!! Riiiight…

    So getting back to my nephew, he gets back.. now he’s looking for the promise of a wife… POOF! They found him one… some lonely, homely, not quite the best looking halfwit, and that’s who he’s told is his wife.. so like a dumbed, drugged lemming… he goes along with it. Turns out she’s Barren… so NO KIDS for my nephew.. and he always loved to play with kids…

    Yep, those Mormons, they sure have it down for family values and know how to keep their OWN flock of suckers passified and happy, in a controlled sort of way… almost like an implant to keep them robotized. Hey, maybe it’s the specially formulated coating on the Magic Underwear? That special cloth that protects them from all harm. I’d sure love to be wearing those when my plane get shot out of the sky and I SMACK the earth at 700Mph, and be the ONLY one to walk away unscathed because of my Underwear!

    Who needs HANES, when you got LDS Soiled protection!

    People, just stay away from these weirdos.. they tell you they stand for loving families and all the goodness that’s SUPPOSED to go along with it, but the real truth is… they’ll RUIN your life. Totally.

    Only way you’ll think they’re the best is if you get dragged into it as a toddler too young to speak already…. OR as an adult, if you’re ultra impressionable and easily suckered into any salespitch that sounds too good to be true.

    My brother sure knows NOW that all those times I told him to get them OUT of that cult, that he should’ve listened to ME instead of defending the Mormons. Gads.. what a costly mistake. He’s lost both his kids, and his own marriage almost broke apart because she was totally bamboozled and brainwashed by all the garbage too. It took a LOT of work and convincing to show her what went wrong… and she’s still not 100% convinced.. but at least they’re still together.

    Family Values… HAH nothing could be further from the truth. Pure Evil is what LDS is. The Church of Joseph Smith, of Latter Day Satan.

  • Complicated

    As you celebrate Christmas, or prior to… go look up the origins of Christmas! It’s a Roman Catholic invention and has nothing to do with what you think it does, because even in Jerusalem at that time of year, it is Brrrrr COLD!! Not even cattle are out in the pastures, and you can be sure no intelligent people would be laying in a manger in sub-zero temperatures. lol

    While you’re at it, I strongly suggest you look up the origins of Easter! lol… that should scare the bejesus out of you by itself. It’s based on pagan worship of the sun god, and CERTAINLY has absolutely zero to do with Jesus.

    That’s the problem with all you people who just sit there in your church and accept all the lies and deceit that your leaders feed to you. Why don’t you go LOOK for yourself, what all this means? The REAL truth is in well documented human history that’s been written and recorded long before even the phony teacher that you trust in, learned for himself.

    No one denies you your faith… but first KNOW what it is that you’re accepting before beliving you understand what it means… because until you truly understand what it all means, anyone can come along and get you to believe nothing but lies, just because they’re known to the flock as “Bishop” or any of the other holier-than-thou, self-serving, self-prided, so-called followers of Christ. If they teach and tell you to honour Christmas and Easter (especially Easter! lol) then even they have NO CLUE what they’re promoting, being Pagan Worship of a False God. You actually listen to people like this?

    Be very careful who you trust… go LOOK it up for yourself, don’t let the holier-than-thou Bishop tell you, you’re not allowed to Seek the truth… because Christ is better than your Bishop, and HE said, Seek the Truth, and the Truth will set you FREE.

    It’s time to FREE your mind from the clutches of the Cult of Mormonism.

    Did you know the second “m” in Mormon was silent? (not pronounced)

    Proof? They have an Angel called Moroni. Need I say more? lol

    Moron – I (in Yoda speak, that means “I am a Moron”)

  • VeryScary

    Quote by P. Phillips:

    Some of you might say, “I don’t know any Mormons.” Well, you’ll find them in perhaps some surprising places. Consider these well known Mormons.

    J. Willard Marriott, founder of Marriott Hotels

    Nolan Archibald, CEO Black & Decker

    Steven R. Covey, Chairman of Franklin Covey

    David Neelman, CEO Jet Blue Airlines

    Kevin Rollins, CEO Dell Computer Corporation

    Sports greats: Steve Young, “Jack” Dempsey, Roy Halladay, Wally Joyner, Dale Murphy, Ryne Sandberg, Robin Yount…just to name a few.

    Even Madison Square Gardens is run by a Mormon (Dave Checketts).

    So maybe Mormons aren’t so scary after all eh?


    Actually, the above list makes em a heck of a lot MORE scary, just because of the influence and power (MONEY) that they have control over, and can BUY their way into whatever GLORIFIED role they choose for themselves within the upper echelon. I’m sure Hinckley and any of the above listed people are great friends… because of how much MONEY they can donate.

    It’s just as corrupt and crooked as politics.

    Just seeing that you think these are GREAT people because of their WEALTH, proves how powerful LDS Brainwashing is amongst the Peons.

  • Balderdash

    “You make quite a spokesman for the enemies of the Mormon church.”

    Mormon’s have enemies now too? My, what happened to love your neighbour, family values etc., etc.

    But then here’s me thinking about how Jesus said to turn the other cheek. Hmmmm.. which reminds me that after Joesph Smith shot dead those two guys in cold blooded murder, I guess he figured turning the other cheek didn’t apply to him, now that his personal protector “Moroni” was there to transport him to heaven….er Kolob, yes that’s the place! Kolob.. that dark and dreary gray area that exists in the poor brainwashed minds of his followers…. Maybe you guys have a special comet to take you there? lol

  • george

    As far as romney being a mormon that scares me a bit . I was Once a active card carrying temple reccomend member of the church for over 25 yrs till I found out the real truth about old Joe smith and his magic hat and stone. Unlike many other religions this group is just as fanatic as the extreme Muslims. Granted they don’t drive you out ,or threaten to kill you any more for not joining them {they once did} They don’t call for the nation to be attacked and brought down {though they once did} And they don’t steal and cheap and con folks out of money opps they still do {Like old JOe smith once did }. But they do take orders from their Profit oh I mean prophet , If he says to jump of a building they would do just that. They are a faith based on fear bias and at their core a real bias against blacks ,hispanics and almost all others of color. They won’t say this openly but I have been inside this group when the hair is let down. The magic garments are only one of many things they don’t discuss , they show their distain for all other faiths ,I know I have been there. They take your money, they scare you in a very polite way to get it . If you don’t pay your tithing {ten percent of your Gross income you will not get to be with your loved ones when you die. They are a sick and scary group disguised as being all loving ,that is just an act . I for one could not support anyone who belongs to this group ,heaven forbid we get one as president. If you think born agains are out there you haven’t seen anything yet.

  • Mark Rees

    Wow what a bunch of religious bigots. We are talking about Romney here. We’re not considering electing Joe Smith and his magic underwear. Does Romney represent values better or worse than other candidates? Clinton and Gore wear a religion – they weren’t at all active in their religion, but Romney is and is that supposed to be worse?

    Romney apposes gay marriage. Do you? I suppose we ought to give gays the same headaches we allow straits by allowing them to be contractually obliged to each other. It beats them being performing gay acts on the streets / parks / rest stops. But the real question is how is this different from your view? Most Americans are apposed to gay marriage.

    How does his religious views compare with the other “real” candidates that have a realistic chance at the presidency? Are you saying voting for an atheist or anti-Christ is somehow better than a Mormon? Think people – some polls are so stupid to ask what religion you would vote for… We aren’t voting for a damn religion – we vote for people…let’s study the issues of people.

    Who cares what underwear a guys wears? Come on people; how the hell does this make a difference in how a guy runs the country? Get a grip.

    Judge him on his merits. He isn’t his religion. How does he govern people / look at his history not his churches history. He is not his religion. Is he fair with people? Is he trustworthy? Is he bold and creative? Does he have vision? Name me the people that are better than he is and tell me why? I don’t want blind opinion – if you have a valid reason, give us support for it.

    Bland? I understand he was a huge hit in the recent California fund raising convention and was witty and charming. Name me one person who has seen him in person or spoken to him that agrees that he is dull and lifeless. Good luck.

    Mitt’s a family man. Married for over 36 years and five kids. He is personally against abortion and believes the family unit is the basic structure to protect in a way to build the future of America. – Who disagrees with this – and why?

    I know there has to be intelligent people on this blog. – Let’s stop thinking with a mob mentality and give us reasonable facts on Mitt. Mitt is not his religion.

  • blessed

    A comment here is either very positive and open minded, or just mean-spirited, vicious, slandering, backwards, hatefull, and narrow-minded towards anyone who believes in the modern-day prophet. This negativity and resentment towards Mormons is not how Christ would have you judge others. Christ was not mean-spirited. If you want to be a Christian, then ACT like one!

  • Sam

    I’m a defunct Mormon. So there is my bias. Magic underwear? coercing money? C’mon, grow up. 12 million people don’t keep secrets that well. I think that may be more familiar with the church doctrine and administration than many who’ve previously posted; Enough to know what comments above are lies and which are misunderstood and which could be true. But I don’t think you need to be familiar with the church to be comfortable with one who is a member of it.

    Mitt is Mitt (and a Mormon). I don’t know much about him outside of his claiming to be a faithful member of the LDS church. Which should mean a lot to me (as a defunct member) and very little to those who aren’t familiar with Mormons.
    It seems to me that if people are genuinely concerned with how the Mormon/LDS church could interfere with Mitt’s governance, they should look at the record of Harry Reid (D-Nev), Smith (R-Oregon), Hatch (R-Utah) and, most pertently Mitt himself as governor of Mass.
    The Church does its best to not interfere directly in politics and never tells its members how to vote. Nonetheless, the doctrine is clear on some issues like abortion, homosexuality and drugs. If it did, believe me, it would struggle to maintain tax exempt and out of media cross- hairs.
    So look at him for what he has done to see if he will do what he says he will do. It is that simple.

  • Hannah

    This is politics. Religion has nothing to do with it. Ever hear of a little thing called seperation of Church and State? Anyway, much of the stuff that has been said is not true. If you want to claim that LDS is a cult, but your religion is not, then you are a hypocrite. There is a place for religious hypocrites. Do you know where it is? Hmmm?

    Romney is an honest man and has been proven to be a good leader. Pretend he’s not Mormon. Look at what he stands for and completely ignore his religious beliefes. Would you vote for him now? Yes? I thought so.

  • byran boyle

    This is a defense to the many distorted comments made. And I Hope you will Let this be viewed as you have with others.

    I am a Christian and would maybe chose to vote for a mormon as president, just as I had to chose the lesser of 2 evils and vote for Bush instead of Kerry. The big problem , most informed Christians have with Latter Day Saints is if you speak with a message from the Lord pertaining to future events and give dates when they will occur and all spoken never comes to past when dated you are a False Prophet. Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
    Deuteronomy 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
    Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
    Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
    Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Joseph Smith/Young 2 of the first founders have made their self’s False Prophets according to the Bible the Only Word Of God, Gods revealation to man. When the foundation’s are rotten so is the rest no matter how good their intention’s as for other CULTS as well you go to their foundation and you will find False Prophesy have been made on Lord Jesus Christ return for his church. And only Faith in Christ that he died for all mans sins (name them) is sufficent with no other work added to God’s Grace. But only Christ and his work will deleiver you from death.Your best works are like dung to a Pure and Holy Righteous God.

  • byran boyle

    HANNAH Can you send me this info were you find seperation of church and state because I just can’t find it in the constitution or the bill of rights. The only thing I can find even close to what you are refering to is this

    Amendment I
    CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING an ESTABLISMENT of RELIGION,OR PROHIBATING the FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Amendment II
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    Amendment III
    No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

    Amendment IV
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Amendment V
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Amendment VI
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

    Amendment VII
    In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

    Amendment VIII
    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    Amendment IX
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Amendment X
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

  • Not mormon

    I live in Utah, I am not Mormon but the Mormon people are very kind. Some of the nicest people I have ever met. It is such a misconception about Mormons.

    There is nothing weird about them at all and they are definetly NOT a cult.

  • Not mormon

    Also just one more thing…

    Who cares about someones religion? Was this country not built on freedom of religion? They can worship what ever they want. It should not matter what someones religion is!!!

  • Troy

    Just what we need, another of the righteous killing in the name and guidance of God . If glen beck and romney represent mormon faith then I bare testimony that it is yet another false religion. Its odd how mormons talk of free agency yet ask no questions.