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Remember George Bush’s touching salute at the soldiers funeral?

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Do you recall that touching moment when George Bush attended the funeral of one of the many soldiers sent to die in Iraq? When the President made that symbolic gesture that meant so much to the family that had sacrificed so much for America? And how the symbolism meant so much to all the others whose families were split forever by war? That moment when the President showed once and for all that he felt the pain of the sacrifice he was asking of America?

You may be having a little trouble remembering it, because it never happened. George Bush, the ”wartime President” could find time to take 170 days of vacation AFTER 9-11 (‘George W. Bush: Taking Vacation, not Responsibility’ ,‘Permanent Vacation’) but didn’t have time in his schedule to visit a single soldiers funeral. It appears that George lacks the moral courage to face that moment of finality that he has sent so many of our troops to. Or perhaps he just lacks the plain human decency to put respect for our troops ahead of ONLY appearing in positive photo opportunities.

Earlier I mentioned George’s historic immediate return to the White House after the 9-11 attack , of course that didn’t actually happen either.

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  • The Dude

    Of course they never happened, BTP. Bush is not even our president.

  • http://iamrighturpie.blogspot.com/ jadester

    nah, don’t be so harsh on him now…none of his “advisors” have told him to do it, so he hasn’t done it.

  • http://cranialcavity.net Marc

    I fail to see you provide any proof beyond what party hacks are lying about. Care to point to the story so we can all be informed. Maybe a story in the NYT or WaPo that says Bush has never visited Iraq war wounded.

    And we would all have to assume, by your word, that this didn’t happen, or this, and of course this was also a dream.

    Or maybe we can look at the other side of the issue, did Kerry ever visit the wounded? There seems to be some doubt, if you care to stretch the definition of “wounded” maybe you can claim this as a Kerry visit, but you would also find another Bush visit in the same post.

    All and all another another factless post by BTP. And another indication of how desparate the Left is becoming as Kerry’s camaign slowly sinks into the political quicksand of history.

  • jud

    I love when people post out-and-out bull, and a fellow researcher like Marc smacks the hell out of it and PUTS IT BACK IN THEIR FACES!

    Please, people, stop spreading the misinformation and follow Marc’s example … use facts, double-check, check your sources (D. Rather, I’m looking at you!), etc. On both sides, let’s stop the spinsanity!

  • http://www.bigtimepatriot.com Big Time Patriot

    I never said Bush hadn’t visited any “injured” soldiers, but it’s a fact that he has NOT attended any funerals. My follow up sentences were intended to reinforce that thought, sorry if it seemed I was implying he had never made ANY efforts towards soldiers, just that he had never made an effort where he might appear framed in the same photo with a coffin from Iraq. Looking back, I see how that may not have been clear in the writing.

    If you have a link to a story where George Bush has attended a soldiers funeral, please share.

    “Ronald Reagan attended memorial services on several occasions for American soldiers” http://hnn.us/articles/1784.html I guess George Bush is NO Ronald Reagan.

  • http://lifeinaurora.blogspot.com Jason Koulouras

    This is the same mentality on the part of the President that leads to caskets arriving in the dead of the night with no fanfare or honour. We owe it to our soliders to honour and support their sacrafice and give them a fitting and honourable reception – not a stealth one.

    Shame on the process and the President for letting soldiers remains come home in the middle of the night as if it was something to be ashamed of.

  • http://cranialcavity.net Marc

    Parse the words all you want, injured soldiers – funerals, whatever. The fact of the matter is you aren’t complaining about either case.

    You and those like you are not a group of people criticizing a president because he doesn’t attend military funerals. This is a group of people criticizing a president because he’s President Bush.

    *If he goes into Iraq, he’s a warmongering unilateralist. If he did nothing, he’d be an isolationist letting dictators kills people.
    *If he doesn’t take the time to visit troops, he’s a bad Commander In Chief (or scared.) If he does, it’s a photo op for the election.
    *If he leaves taxes the way they are, then taxes are too high. If he lowers them, then it’s a giveaway to the rich.
    *If he doesn’t go to military funerals, he’s a hearltess man. If he attends some funerals, it’s a photo op for the election.

    In other words, there is nothing this man can do right where the Left is concerned. Nothing.

    And to kill your funeral meme once and for all the History News Network has done the research for me and I will thus quote them freely:

    Have presidents in the past attended the funerals of soldiers who died in combat? Have they taken note of the deaths of U.S. soldiers? The record is mixed, as can be seen below. It would appear that few presidents have ever actually attended military funerals, though many used the bully pulpit to draw attention to lives lost in the service of their country

    Take your pick and you make a judgement, not that you will give it a fair read in any way.

    Lyndon Baines Johnson – According to the Johnson Library, LBJ attended two funerals for soldiers who died during the Vietnam War. The first funeral was for Captain Albert Smith, son of White House correspondent Merriman Smith, which was held February 28, 1966. The second was for Major General Keith R. Ware, held September 17, 1968. LBJ had met Ware while visiting Vietnam.

    Richard Nixon – Richard Nixon does not appear to have attended the funerals of any soldiers killed in Vietnam. He did award posthumous medals of honor to the families of several soldiers on 22 April 1971 and on several other occasions. On Veterans day in 1971 he visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington Cemetery. In 1973 he met with the family of Colonel William Nolde after the colonel was buried in Arlington Cemetery. Colonel Nolde was killed on January 27th, the night before the cease-fire went into effect.

    Jimmy Carter – According to the New York Times, Jimmy Carter attended a memorial service for the soldiers killed in the failed rescue of America hostages in Iran in 1980.

    Ronald Reagan – Ronald Reagan attended memorial services on several occasions for American soldiers. In 1983 he attended a service at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, in connection with the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, which cost the lives of 241 people. In 1987 he attended a service at Mayport Naval Station in Florida for the sailors killed on the USS Stark.

    George H.W. Bush – President George Herbert Walker Bush does not appear to have attended any funerals for American soldiers. (The NYT, citing Marlin Fitzwater as a source, indicated that the president did attend several such funerals. But no details were provided.)

    Bill Clinton – Bill Clinton attended a service in October 2000 in memory of the 17 sailors killed in the attack on the USS Cole.

    After the terrorist bombing the Murrah building in downtown Oklahoma City he publicly grieved with the families of the victims at an event that was regarded at the time as a turning point in his presidency.

    As for Jason and your asinine comment, surely you were just as critical of Clinton when he placed that policy in effect – weren’t you? And despite what you may believe each and every fallen military member is accorded the same honor and dignity whether it is on TV or not.

    The ban is not to hide the bodies, but rather, in this day and age, with the pervasive, round the clock coverage on cable television, to keep family members from having to watch CNN broadcast the body of their killed loved one prior to either notification or delivery of the remains.

  • http://www.bigtimepatriot.com Big Time Patriot

    “You and those like you are not a group of people criticizing a president because he doesn’t attend military funerals. This is a group of people criticizing a president because he’s President Bush.”

    Interesting point, there is a lot of people putting personality before principles these days aren’t there?

    Conservatives used to be for smaller government, George Bush has grown government faster than Clinton did, but that doesn’t matter.

    Conservatives used to want to keep government out of peoples lives. George Bush wants the government to see what you read at the library, but that doesn’t matter.

    Conservatives used to be for a balanced budget, no need to elaborate on this one, but it doesn’t matter anyway.

    Conservatives used to be against “moral relativism” and for absolute right and wrong. George Bush’s Defense Secretary says about abuse in prisons “Does it rank up there with chopping someone’s head off on television?” he asked. “It doesn’t.” From:’Lawmakers troubled by disclosure of more `ghost detainees’ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/09/10/national1454EDT0621.DTL and the President doesn’t set him straight that we are not on a sliding scale of righteousness. But that doesn’t matter.

    I could go on, but some people would say, “9-11 changed everything”. I would agree, after 9-11 some people were so scared that they were willing to let the terrorist threat over ride all their previous beliefs. They basically surrendered America on the spot. We call those people “Bush supporters”. Others (both conservatives AND liberals) put prinicples before personalities and look at Bush’s actions in office (not just his rhetoric) and say “this guy is one of the worst Presidents we’ve ever had”.

    I would be happy to discuss Bush’s accomplishments. Talking macho about a threat from those who attacked us and then starting a war against someone un-connected who DIDN’T attack us and had no weapons to attack us, could normally be construed as a monumental screw up for a President. But it appears that if you have the correct speaking style, competence doesn’t matter to many Republicans. Style above substance, that appears to be the Bush/Cheney mantra. I’m sure Osama bin Laden is shaking in his boots from Bush’s “tough talk”.

    America CAN think and vote based on issues, and letting some supposed agenda of terrorists decide who you should vote for is, in fact, surrendering your vote to the terrorists.

    Yes America has suffered and will suffer again from terrorism, the question is, are you going to give up your beliefs because of it? Or are you going to fight even harder for what makes America a great country?

  • boomcrashbaby

    America CAN think and vote based on issues, and letting some supposed agenda of terrorists decide who you should vote for is, in fact, surrendering your vote to the terrorists

    Wow, that was profound. I’m voting on numerous issues this election, including but not limited to homeland security and the global fight against terrorism, which is why my vote will be going to Kerry this Nov.

  • http://punk19barbie05@aol.com jennifer

    i need proof that bush has gone to a funeral of a veteran from iraq to prove to my teacher that he has, could you please send me a cite with proof? thanx!

  • Nancy

    Oh, but there’s a very nice photo of him saluting the returning Iraq war dead: he’s got his middle finger out. Isn’t that the one you’re referring to?

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    That’s kind of gratuitous, Nancy, the kid just wants some help.

    Jennifer, there’s the text of President Bush’s speech when he attended a memorial service for those killed in Iraq at Arlington Cemetary located here. This is from Memorial Day in 2003. At that ceremony Bush laid a wreath in the area where the Iraq dead are buried, and in attendance were the families of many of those soldiers.

    While this is not a single soldier’s funeral, it was a memorial service for all of the dead at that point, and should more than qualify for what you were asking for.

    BTW, he has done this every year since the war started. You can read this year’s speech here.

    Each of these links has pictures of the president at Arlingont Cemetery.

    Dave

  • http://www.bigtimepatriot.com Big Time Patriot

    “i need proof that bush has gone to a funeral of a veteran from iraq to prove to my teacher that he has, could you please send me a cite with proof? thanx!”

    Well, as Dave mentioned, George has gone to a variety of memorial services for a variety of wars. But the proof you are looking for, that Bush has gone to a funeral of a veteran from Iraq, is not available, because Bush has never gone to such a funeral.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    To be fair, BTP, if he did go to one of those funerals he might feel obligated to go to them all, which would leave him no time to do anything else given the number of dead. A larger-scale memorial ceremony is a much more proportionate and appropriate way to address the responsibility.

    Dave

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    To be fair, BTP, if he did go to one of those funerals he might feel obligated to go to them all, which would leave him no time to do anything else given the number of dead. A larger-scale memorial ceremony is a much more proportionate and appropriate way to address the responsibility.

    Dave

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    To be fair, BTP, if he did go to one of those funerals he might feel obligated to go to them all, which would leave him no time to do anything else given the number of dead. A larger-scale memorial ceremony is a much more proportionate and appropriate way to address the responsibility.

    Dave

  • http://www.bigtimepatriot.com Big Time Patriot

    It’s true that Bush could not go to all the funerals of those who died in Iraq, but his failure to attend even a few, such as the first Medal of Honor winner in Iraq, Paul Ray Smith, kind of indicates that his lack of attendence is just proof of how “image” management is the rule in this administration, instead of perhaps, “good” management.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    That makes no sense, BTP. It would be far better image management to go to the funeral of the medal of honor winner than to not go.

    Dave

  • http://www.bigtimepatriot.com Big Time Patriot

    It’s true that it makes no sense, but the Bush Administration apparently has chosen to think that if George Bush and a dead soldier are never seen together, then people won’t blame George for dead soldiers.

    Instead it just seems to be another sign that George won’t take responsibility for any of the pain he causes. I do give George credit for apparently making several visits to the families of casualties. Actually, Mr. Bush has gotten us all used to the soft bigotry of low expectations when it comes to his leadership. Repeating the same talking points over and over again just don’t seem to be leading the nation. When things go bad, sometimes change IS the answer.

  • http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=37535&archive=true Super Dave

    Definitive answer straight from Monkey Boy himself:

    ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE — President Bush has met hundreds of families of fallen soldiers, but he has yet to attend a servicemember’s funeral, he said Tuesday.

    “Because which funeral do you go to? In my judgment, I think if I go to one I should go to all. How do you honor one person but not another?” he said.

  • http://Floppingaces.net wordsmith

    The criticism is partisan nonsense. If it weren’t George Bush, it wouldn’t be an issue, given that there is no time-honored “tradition” of presidents attending military funerals. Those making an issue of this are doing so because they oppose THIS president and THIS war. So they have to do all they can to delegitimize it.

    Can anyone point me to any president who has spent more time visiting with military families who have lost loved ones, or visited more soldiers at Walter Reed than President Bush? Consider this.

  • Tom

    Can you name any president in history who sent our sons and daughters off to invade a foreign country who did nothing to us to engage in an illegal war WITHOUT UN approval. Yes no approval. Read the UN documents and you will see that the invasion of a sovereign Iraq was NOT authorized. So the least this president could do is attend a funeral and tell the family that he is sorry. But will he, NO. Because he is a coward. The end.

  • Barb

    Does anyone know a good speech given by any of the presidents honoring soldiers lives lost during Vietnam? [personal contact info deleted] I need it for a paper I am writing and can not find one?

  • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

    FDR was the only war time president to attend any funerals…Two of which were a friend and an aid of his son!
    Bush has said if he attends one funeral, he would have to them all and we know that’s impossible and quite fair…
    How about this Octoroon Dumbass you have elected, where’s the piece about how shameful it is he hasn’t attended any funerals!?
    Thought so!

    Obama can’t even show enough respect to our service members to even salute them back, how about doing a hall of shame piece on that!