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Like many conservatives, Bill Bennett is either clueless when it comes to racial issues or he is an outright bigot. You would think at this point someone would have told him where he went wrong in his comments about African-Americans, but it appears he only takes advice from other clueless conservatives, who only know how to throw gas on a raging racial fire.

In a recent speech, instead of apologizing to African-Americans, many of which were offended, Bennett went as far as to blame the news media for distorting his remarks about how hypothetically aborting black babies would lead to a reduced crime rate in society.

Alphaliberal.comBill Bennett and his supporters continue to totally miss the mark. No one thinks he meant his statement literally. No one cares that he personally finds it a repugnant statement. The point is, Bill Bennett believes the statement to be literally true, however repugnant.

Yes, Bennett does believe, (without basis), that aborting only black babies would reduce the crime rate more than, say, aborting only white babies.

I have a few hypotheticals for Bennett as long as we are engaged in a “freakonomics” fantasy. Aborting all conservatives would lead to a raising of the minimum wage and universal health care. Aborting all conservatives would lead to equal rights for gays and strengthening of social security. Aborting all conservatives would lead to a more peaceful planet, less government sanctioned death, and a balanced budget. Aborting all conservatives would eliminate the culture of corruption, improve democracy in America, and help alleviate racial tensions.

While those statements are repugnant as well, there is one big difference. The hypotheticals above about conservatives are true. The statement Bill Bennett made as a hypothetical about African-Americans is literally false. Bennett’s insistence that his statement is true –without any study to back it up, and without accounting for other factors that occur after birth, such as poverty or prejudice, exposes his underlying bigotry. That is why people are angry, not because the “liberal media” took him out of context.

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  • http://www.nationalvanguard.org Jill Henry

    From article: “The statement Bill Bennett made as a hypothetical about African-Americans is literally false.”

    Interracial Crime

    • Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

    • Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

    • Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

    • Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

    • Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

    • When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

    • Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

    • The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

    Sincerely,

    Jill Henry

  • Nancy

    Just out of curiosity, how do you know Bennett believes the statement to be true? I took it to be a sort of “for example”; he could just as easily have used “catholics” or “males” or “muslims” or anything else.

  • Vile Stench

    Jill,

    Please do not bring statistics and evidence into the racial debate, telling the truth will leave you branded as a racist just like Bill Bennett.

    Since no liberal has yet to refute your obviously racist statement let me do it for them.

    First: There is no such thing as race, unless of course your going for a government contract or trying to get an affirmative action slot in school. The logic is so sound though. Race does not exist because there are all sorts of mixes and variations between white, black, etc. By the same logic I have deduced that the colors red and blue do not exist either as there are infinite shades of purple between them.

    Second: The only reason minorities commit crimes and do poorly in school is because they are poor. All good liberals know this. It is inconcievable to even consider that differences in average intelligence could lead to differences in material “success”. Your not poor because your dumb, your dumb because your poor. Don’t let silly scientific studies that show exactly the opposite throw you off. Remember, science is the tool of the racist.

    Third: Racists like you, through the power of passive racism, have held them down. Although you may not have ever denied them a job, a house, or ever been unkind, you have made the fatal flaw of examining the evidence and trying to find the truth. For this you owe reparations in the amount of $27,852.36. Please make checks payable to one Jesse Jackson, or better yet just give him cash, he won’t mind.

  • http://journals.aol.com/vicl04/THESAVAGEQUIETSEPTEMBERSUN/ Victor Lana

    Ballet,

    I wonder if Bennett is a racist, stupid, or just nuts. No matter what anyone says, the statement he made was definitely racist.

    Wonder how he’d like it if someone said, “To have one less racist, Bill Bennett should have been aborted.”

    He is really guilty of ignorance and stupidity and perhaps intolerance. An ugly mix to be sure.

  • Duane

    Another fine misuse of statistics (#1). Bennett’s statement is false, because what is not being taken into account is the fraction of blacks that makes up the US population. The number of crimes would drop if any sector of the population were to be reduced (obviously). The crime rate, i.e., the number of crimes per year per capita, would not be reduced by aborting all black babies. Work it out for yourself.

  • Baronius

    This is why I love Bill Bennett. By now, anyone else would have apologized, denied he said it, then gone on Larry King and announced a $1 million donation to the UNCF. Not Bill. The man is a philosopher-king. People who hate cookie-cutter politicians should be as delighted as I am.

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    For a more rational view of this issue, try In the Middle: Bill Bennett.

    Bottom line: Balletshooz and Duane are factually wrong, while Bennett is factually correct, but insensitive to the extreme.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    “Aborting all conservatives would lead to a raising of the minimum wage and universal health care. Aborting all conservatives would lead to equal rights for gays and strengthening of social security.”

    Well, based on these two we should definitely find a way to test babies and make sure we don’t abort any potential conservatives.

    “Aborting all conservatives would lead to a more peaceful planet”

    Nothing more peaceful than a pile of corpses.

    “less government sanctioned death”

    Most genocidal governments have shared basic philsophical ground with the modern american left.

    “and a balanced budget.”

    Don’t make me laugh. It hurts too much.

    “Aborting all conservatives would eliminate the culture of corruption”

    You’ve clearly never heard of James Trafficant, the states of Ohio, Missouri, Rhode Island, Louisiana, etc, the Cities of Chicago and Boston, or the myriad other corrupt democrat politicians and places.

    “improve democracy in America, and help alleviate racial tensions.”

    Yep, the tensions would go away once we take hope away and the ‘lesser’ races are more obedient to their democrat masters.

    Dave

  • http://www.nrlc.org/ Anthony Grande

    Aborting all conservatives or aborting all liberals would lead to a single party state. And we all know what a one party state turns into:

    COMMUNISM

  • The Theory

    no one would have to get aborted if no one got pregnant in the first place. i would be all in favor of letting the human race Rest in Peace.

  • KJ

    I’m a 27-year-old Black Man from Brooklyn NYC (no I haven’t been to jail!) We all know that ones race does not make them a criminal but lets stop making excuses! Having friends that are drug dealers and family members in prison, I feel that I’m qualified to speak on this. Continuous poverty causes crime and IT IS OUR OWN FAULT that we continue to pass poverty down to our children.

  • http://www.nrlc.org/ Anthony Grande

    KJ, what do you think of Bill Bennett???

  • KJ

    I think Bennett obviously equates the black race and crime; any person who has ever picked up a history book in their life knows isn’t true. At one time racism directly resulted in sub par education and lack of jobs opportunities for Black people in America (which to some extent does contribute to the problems we have today) but our community truly didn’t become so crime infested until the last 30 years or so. I’m actually glad Bennett said what he did because I put the spotlight on two issues that are continuing to stifle the black community: crime and abortion. Hopefully we can start being honest with ourselves (Black community) and admit we have a problem. There IS a solution, and it will not and cannot come from the Government, it has to come from within. Our community has to become fed up with living the way we do.

  • balletshooz

    “Hopefully we can start being honest with ourselves (Black community) and admit we have a problem.”

    I agree with you but some on the right will take this and say, see, Bill Bennett is right.

    I think, IF, it is shown blacks are more prone to crime it is BECAUSE of society, poverty, prejudice, and other things that happen AFTER they are born which push them that way.

    To ascribe genetics to black crime as Bennett did and say abortions would cure it is racist, in my opinion.

  • balletshooz

    and a balanced budget.

    Don’t make me laugh. It hurts too much.

    Whats so funny about that? A republican hasnt balanced the budget in 40 years, the only person to do it since WWII was Clinton, a Democrat. He created the largest surplus in history, which Bush blew in less than a year.

  • http://journals.aol.com/vicl04/THESAVAGEQUIETSEPTEMBERSUN/ Victor Lana

    Having grown up in NYC and living with all kinds of people, I’d say that crime is not a problem of race. As I have seen it over the years, it’s a problem linked to poverty. Poor people (whatever race) are sometimes forced into crime. This is not racial but social/economic truth.

    Remember Jean Valjean (who was white)? He stole a loaf of bread and was sent to jail. He only stole the bread because he was starving. Crime of poverty, certainly not of race.

  • KJ

    racism =
    The belief that race accounts for differences in human character…

    By definition he’s a racist. He probably doesn’t mean to be. Most racist are so because its an easy way out of actually thinking and investigating, its fear or its all they know. The only thing a person’s race determines in reality is how others treat them.

  • balletshooz

    I agree Victor. The point that got me was that Bennett didn’t say we should hypothetically abort all poor people, which might be a true hypothetical.

    Somehow in his mind he thinks there is some genetic link between crime and blackness that abortion could cure.

    Now obviously Bennett doesnt want genocide on blacks, but it is revealing that he thinks that a true statement.

    I can say as a white person there are probably 3 times in my life where I should have at least spent the night in jail but was let go by a friendly white officer. I cant say for sure it is because I am white, but in all probability a black person would have had the book thrown at him. Things like that probably influence black crime stats more than genetics. So Bennett is off base in my opinion.

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Follow the link I provided, and comment after you’ve read Freakonomics or at least made an effort to understand that book as the backdrop to Bennett’s comments.

    Bennett didn’t equate race with crime, he respond negatively to a tenet of Freakonomics by pointing out that statistics don’t always point to the right actions to take. Statistically, the average black person is far more likely to be arrested for a crime than the average white person, but that doesn’t mean that we should abort black babies — it means we should do what we can to fix the system that creates this statistical imbalance. That’s all Bennett was saying, too.

  • http://www.fifthdentist.blogspot.com The Fifth Dentist

    If it were your sole purpose to reduce the number bloated stupid assclowns with their own insipid radio shows you could kick Bill Bennett’s empty nutsack with a steel boot until he shut his rotting pie hole. That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but he would eventually shut the hell up.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    Well put, Phillip. And yes, 5D – I’m sure that violence is the answer to this as to so many problems.

    Dave

  • http://www.fifthdentist.blogspot.com The Fifth Dentist

    Dave–
    If you’ll notice, I was paraphrasing Bill Bennett. What I wrote were his exact words except that the phrase “abort black babies” was replaced by the phrase “Bennett’s empty nutsack.” I don’t mean to sound immodest, but I think I improved upon his brilliant idea.

    In any event, I’m not advocating violence.

  • Jewels

    5th-Dentist: I gotcha message first time through and love the assclowns ref. Dave, you can be so serious.

  • 1Potato

    Balletshooz:

    If a person says blacks committ more crimes, they are not necessarily ascribing it to genetics. It could be cultural attitudes, both within and without the black community.

    Bennett never said the correlaton was due to genetics. You keep fabricating this assertion again and again in different posts and threads. Would you please consider giving it up already, so that you can go on to your new, fresh lie?

  • Jewels

    1Potato: Balletshooz; to spend the time in your argument you must spend a moment in ‘his’ shooz.
    Much Love

  • RogerMDillion

    “link between crime and blackness”

    That’s not completely correct, he linked blackness, poverty and crime. I don’t understand why people keep leaving that part out.

  • Maurice

    Plenty of stupid things are said everyday. Stupid comments only become unbearable if they involve race. It shouldn’t be that way.

    Personally I don’t like it when people refer to me as an African-American. I have never been to Africa and have no plans to visit. Nobody ever refers to a white guy as a Norwegian-American.

    I am a person first. You can apply the other labels as you see fit.

  • http://adreamersholiday.blogspot.com Lee Richards

    We would make a giant leap forward toward solving a lot of problems in the world if we started thinking of ourselves (and teaching it to kids) as all being members of the human race first.

  • KJ

    I’m with Maurice. There is nothing “African” about me. I’m American and I’m black. Drop the African nonesense.

  • http://www.bhwblog.com bhw

    Nobody ever refers to a white guy as a Norwegian-American.

    While this may be true of Norwegian-Americans [my husband jokingly says that Scandinavian-Americans are a “silent minority”], certainly many, many white Americans refer to themselves as Irish, Italian, etc., even though they have never set foot in those countries.

  • Nancy

    Norway is a country – pretty hard to pin someone down as coming from an artificial political entity these days, altho I guess one might make a stab when a name like “McLean” is involved. Still and all, while the rest of you may be ethnically pure, I’m like catsup: 57 different varieties; plus IMO everyone came from Africa ultimately anyway, so we’re ALL “African-Americans” in a sense (or African-English, or African-Norwegian, etc. etc.). I can understand why we all as humans categorize, tho: it’s to try to make sense of things. Easier to comprehend if you have a name & a ‘place’ for it in your mind, which alas does tend (where humans are concerned) to become discriminatory. There’s an argument afloat currently that discrimination in the sense of categorizing & ‘rating’ people is in the genes, related to judging others as potential mate material, etc. It’s also been demonstrated in several studies that many, many animals also do this.

    I think in Bennett’s case it was less a situation of blatant racism than it was of foot-in-mouth & he picked a particularly unfortunate subject that everyone’s hypersensitive about anyway. A more valid supposition would be that if we aborted all male babies, the violent crime rate would really plummet.

    Go ahead: tell me THAT one isn’t true.

  • http://www.elitistpig.com Dave Nalle

    “1Potato: Balletshooz; to spend the time in your argument you must spend a moment in ‘his’ shooz.”

    His Clown Shooz.

    Dave

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Bill Bennett is not the first person to imply that blacks are somehow inferior to whites, and by the looks of these blog posts, he isn’t the last, either.

    What I’d love to see is these closet eugenicists proudly proclaim their baseline agenda, and not hide behind semantics, hate projection upon liberals, and delusions of philanthropy.

    As far as Bennett is concerned, I believe that the man is NOT stupid. IMHO this incident was calculated and done by design

    If you didn’t know Bennett had a talk radio show on 115 stations BEFORE…you damn well do now.

    –Cobra

  • 1Potato

    Nancy says:

    “A more valid supposition would be that if we aborted all male babies, the violent crime rate would really plummet.

    Go ahead: tell me THAT one isn’t true.”

    Putting aside the fact that every fight I ever saw was instigated by a woman, I would respond this way: Without men we would have no polio vaccinations, no antibiotics, no airplanes, no Mozart, no Shakespeare… etc. ad infinitum.

    Who could argue with that?

    1P

  • Maxskyfan

    “Bill Bennett is not the first person to imply that blacks are somehow inferior to whites, and by the looks of these blog posts, he isn’t the last, either.”

    You are inferring this. Bennett has clearly said he was NOT implying this. Black isn’t the issue here. It is RED. You have been blinded by your rage. And I don’t care what color it is, only that it remains pointless anger.

    This is from the Freakonomics Blog:

    “People should bear in mind that this took place on an unscripted radio show in response to a caller’s question. It was clearly off-the-cuff. This is a very different situation than, say, Bennett’s writing an op-ed piece.”

    “He made a factual statement (if you prohibit any group from reproducing, then the crime rate will go down), and then he noted that just because a statement is true, it doesn’t mean that it is desirable or moral. That is, of course, an incredibly important distinction and one that we make over and over in Freakonomics.”

    I have read posts and articles arguing Freakonomics didn’t connect Blacks and abortion, but there are many posts that jump to this point and endlessly argue it months before Bennett made his comments. If you read these posts and the authors comments regarding Bennett you realize you are standing in quicksand here.

    By claiming Bennett and others are marking Blacks as inferior you are taking the higher moral ground. Now you are the superior and the ones you have cast down and the inferiors. It works in your favor to say the worst of Bennett, it make you look that much better.

  • Maxskyfan

    Bennett said: “So over the course of the past week, I have been condemned as a racist, I myself have been called reprehensible, and it is said I am an advocate for aborting black children-and even worse.

    My critics have told me to shut up about race, crime, abortion, and black America – that I cannot go there. But that’s impossible. I have been there for forty years, and I am not leaving now.

    I am pro-life, I am dedicated to the proposition, as all of us are, that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, and that among these… you know the rest. I have worked toward the real achievement of that equality and opportunity all of my life.”

    “In my books, I have condemned all forms of bigotry and, in my childrens’ books, consistently highlighted positive role models from all races and ethnicities. An education company I helped found has developed an excellent curriculum for use by all children-all age levels and abilities-wherever they live in the United States. I am told that in a couple of weeks, it will be announced that this excellent math program has dramatically lifted the scores of inner-city, minority children.”

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Maxsky,

    If the caller NEVER mentioned race in his questions or statements, and “Freakonomics”, the text Bennett’s gleening this theory from, never discusses race in that passage, then explain the sudden injection of “crime rate” and “black babies?”

    Why is his fixation on “black babies?”

    –Cobra

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    In my hardback edition of Freakonomics, the chapter introduction, on page 114, mentions race (“black women”), as do pages 122 (“…since African-Americans and Hispanics commit a disproportionate share of felonies.”), 124 (“…especially black Americans, live behind bars.”), and 135 (“…the homicide rate among young black men — who were disproportionately represented among crack dealers…”).

    The book does include race in the discussion, and the numbers do support Bennett’s statement as factually true, and Bennett was inveighing against such a policy, not advocating for it.

    The facts, it seems, matter little when people want to lynch someone.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Phillip Winn writes:

    >>>”In my hardback edition of Freakonomics, the chapter introduction, on page 114, mentions race (“black women”), as do pages 122 (“…since African-Americans and Hispanics commit a disproportionate share of felonies.”), 124 (“…especially black Americans, live behind bars.”), and 135 (“…the homicide rate among young black men — who were disproportionately represented among crack dealers…”).”

    So your definition of “crime” ONLY encompases homicide and “crack dealing?”
    Disproportionate amount of felonies? Are you even aware how many activities listed in most jurisdictions are felonies?

    Are you kidding me? This black boogeyman mythology is not becoming.

    –Cobra

  • Nancy

    1potato, if men didn’t exist (except perhaps a small pool for breeding purposes) Im quite sure women would have developed or discovered all those things – and more, because they wouldn’t be held back by wars, discrimination, etc. caused by men. In fact, a helluva lot of stuff has been discovered &/or developed by women, but men took credit for it; some of this is just beginning to come out, but as the males have been the ones to generally write history because they’re the ones in charge, a good deal of this information is deeply buried if not destroyed outright.

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Cobra, are you seriously trying to engage in discussion here?

    You said, “Freakonomics…never discusses race in that passage,” and I responded by listing five instances which demonstrate that your statement is false.

    Your response is apparently to now attack the book based on briefs snippets of statements taken completely out of context, without in any way retracting your earlier false claim about the book, or reconsidering Bennett in light of the facts as they must now be understood.

    That doesn’t strike me as something one hoping to learn the truth would do, honestly.

    The book is hardly devoted to the false premise that black people are criminals, and neither is Bennett. However, the book does describe statistics to support the authors’ assertion that Roe v Wade has resulted in a reduction in crime, and Bennett — reacting against the apparent advocacy of abortion in the book (it wasn’t advocacy, actually) — was accurately representing statistics when he made the hyperbolic statement which can be stated more accurately and more clearly as “black people in America are more like than average to be arrested for a crime.”

    Nobody has ever asserted that (1) all black people are criminals, or even (2) the majority of black people are criminals. Neither is true, and everybody understands that. There are roughly 37 million black people in this country, the 2003 stats show that there were only a few million arrests of black people that year. Even assuming that every person was arrested only once (worst case scenario, certainly not true), that’s still much fewer than ten percent of black people arrested, let alone charged, let alone convicted, and so on.

    A black person in America is about twice as likely to be arrested for a crime as a white person. That’s a fact.

    A black person in America is nearly ten times as likely to not be arrested for a crime as to be arrested. That’s also a fact.

    Cobra, seriously, read the book before declaring what it says, and before attacking anybody discussing it. It isn’t race-focused or race-baiting, but it does discuss race, as any serious discussion of crime must, given the racial imbalance in arrests.

  • 1Potato

    Nancy:

    “1potato, if men didn’t exist (except perhaps a small pool for breeding purposes)”

    I think the pool would have to be pretty large before you found anyone to breed with you.

    1P

  • Maxskyfan

    Cobra,

    It doesn’t seem possible to look beyond the soundbite. The truth is such a hard pill to swallow. Especially when all you see is RED. Your venom is power, Cobra. Your hate has made you equally powerful. But you have tunnel vision. You can’t see what is directed to the right and left of you. Forget about what is behind you.

    The internet is a wonderful thing. It has been said a picture is worth a thousand words. It is sad when we become what we hate. So wound up by hate thought becomes irrelevant.

    This is a picture from your very hand. A penny went into what Bennett said. Your soul went into this picture.

    It doesn’t matter what Bennett meant when your mind is made up.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    OK… let’s take this point by point.

    Phillip, this is the conversation in question on the Bennett Radio program.

    “From the September 28 broadcast of Salem Radio Network’s Bill Bennett’s Morning in America:

    CALLER: I noticed the national media, you know, they talk a lot about the loss of revenue, or the inability of the government to fund Social Security, and I was curious, and I’ve read articles in recent months here, that the abortions that have happened since Roe v. Wade, the lost revenue from the people who have been aborted in the last 30-something years, could fund Social Security as we know it today. And the media just doesn’t — never touches this at all.

    BENNETT: Assuming they’re all productive citizens?

    CALLER: Assuming that they are. Even if only a portion of them were, it would be an enormous amount of revenue.

    BENNETT: Maybe, maybe, but we don’t know what the costs would be, too. I think as — abortion disproportionately occur among single women? No.

    CALLER: I don’t know the exact statistics, but quite a bit are, yeah.

    BENNETT: All right, well, I mean, I just don’t know. I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this, because you don’t know. I mean, it cuts both — you know, one of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is that the declining crime rate, you know, they deal with this hypothesis, that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well —

    CALLER: Well, I don’t think that statistic is accurate.

    BENNETT: Well, I don’t think it is either, I don’t think it is either, because first of all, there is just too much that you don’t know. But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.”

    Media Matters

    The person who INTRODUCES race into this conversation is:

    BILL BENNETT. This is undeniable. It’s right there before your eyes. Your contention is that Freakonomics somehow is responsible for his conclusions on race, when apparently, Bennett’s rant was some sort of stream of consciousness, unleashing whatever inner demons the man has in regards to blacks.

    Not surprising in the least.

    Maxsky fan writes:

    This is a picture from your very hand. A penny went into what Bennett said. Your soul went into this picture.

    It doesn’t matter what Bennett meant when your mind is made up.”

    I draw it like I see it. That’s an accurate picture, but if you want to go down this road with me, I want to ask you a question first:

    Do you REALLY want to be a position to defend the incendiary quotes of Limbaugh, Savage, Glen Beck, Bob Grant, and others in regards to race?

    In fact, I would LOVE for you to take that position. That would prove my theory on Bennett is correct.

    Cobra

  • http://w6daily.winn.com/ Phillip Winn

    Cobra, I think that the picture linked to says it all. You’re not interested in reason, only incendiary nonsense.

    Bennet first mentioned Freakonomics, which I’ve quoted above to demonstrate that it does introduce the race issues with regard to crime and abortion, and Bennett then (“then” meaning after) extends that argument to demonstrate what he believes is its falsity.

    The transcript makes this blindingly clear, and the idea that anything other than lock-step condemnation of Bennet “proves” your theory on anything is more faulty reasoning.

    I’m truly sorry that you’re consumed by this, since it clearly means that you can’t contribute anything of value to any discussion which might reasonably lead to progress in the area of crime. That’s sad.

  • KJ

    The Impact of Crack Cocaine

    Black and white crime rates steadily converged in the decades leading up to the 1980s when the sudden introduction of crack-cocaine to the inner cities caused dramatic increases in crime among Blacks. (Causing the “black-crime” statistics that the xenophobes among us love to post all over the Internet) So…

    If you abort the White and Columbian babies that would eventually become the operatives that would introduce crack-cocaine to the ghetto, your crime rate would go down…not that it would be the moral thing to do….

  • Justin Berry

    Pretty lame attempt to equate conservatism to racism balletshooz. surely you can do better than that?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Phillip,

    Ok, let’s address race-baiting on talk radio. Rush Limbaugh formulated a niche-marketing strategy that has made him the top talk show host in America, and one of the facets of that strategy is the unapologetic use of RACE, especially pertaining to African Americans.

    For your review: “And then what if–there are all kinds of little Communist regimes in–what if Fidel Castro shows up and says I endorse Kerry? The Black Caucus would like that, but Kerry wouldn’t. [3/19/04]

    “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.[3/14/03]

    “Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in cultural life, in which at least one African-American would not have been involved? As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, an African-American. [2/21/03]

    “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed. [4/23/98] Wikipedia.

    “As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.” A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

    “In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: “Spike, if you’re going to do that, let’s complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out.”

    “In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh’s mocking take on the NAACP, a group with a ninety-year commitment to nonviolence: “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

    “When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the “Movin’ On Up” theme song from TV’s “Jeffersons” when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect–substituting “ax” for “ask”–when discussing black leaders.

    “Such quotes and antics–many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) for our 1995 book–offer a whiff of Limbaugh’s racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in America “is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings” of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna’s first child, a Latino, as “a gang-member type guy”–an individual with no gang background.

    “In 1994, Limbaugh mocked St. Louis for building a rail line to East St. Louis “where nobody goes.” East St. Louis is home to roughly 40,000 residents–98 percent of whom are African-Americans. One of its 40,000 “nobodies” is star NFL linebacker Bryan Cox.

    “Once, in response to a caller arguing that black people need to be heard, Limbaugh responded: “They are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?” fair.org

    It’s widely accepted that the Rush Limbaugh program is the template for other fledgeling talk show hosts to try and achieve ratings and market shares. The theory is simple…target hot button topics that apply to the angry white male demographic, which happens to be part of the number 1 advertising demographic.

    We can go down the line to Mike Savage, Glenn Beck, Bob Grant, etc if you wish, Phillip.

    My cartoon, in the context of these above quotes is perfectly legitimate, and Bill Bennett IMHO is applying the same formula.

    Cobra

  • Maxskyfan

    Cobra,

    You are making my point for me. You have just jumped off the deep end of funny logic. Do you even listen to these guys?

    I don’t even know who Glenn Beck and Bob Grant are. I know who Mike Savage is and if you are comparing him to Bennett you have fallen and can’t get up. Savage was recently blasted in a book written by a conservative who was featured on the talk radio circuit.

    And what about the talk radio host Larry Elders (he’s black)? Is he a racist too? You paint with a might big brush, Cobra. And red seems to be the only color on your palette.

  • Chahlesh

    But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.

    The second part of his sentence is rather important don’t you think?

    The fact that he calls the idea ridiculous and morally reprehensible?

  • http://www.getting-your-ex-back.com Christopher Rose

    Isn’t it also true that the crime rate would go down if you aborted every white baby? That’s why the remark seems so racist…

  • Lillie

    Shut up