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Congratulations on not being swayed by the endless political rallies, ads, media coverage and phone calls asking for your commitment to the Obama/Biden or the McCain/Palin ticket. You are running out of time to decide but before you do, here are a few questions that you might want to consider. If your answers are in the positive then you should vote for Barack Obama. However if you are unsure about the answers then John McCain deserves your vote.

The Economy: Despite all his mockery of McCain not being knowledgeable on the economy, Obama's background is anything but economic. As a lawyer, a law professor, a community organizer and Senator he has been even more removed from economic and financial affairs than John McCain. When all the rhetoric is peeled away, Obama's economic plan boils down to the redistribution of wealth which he himself admitted to Joe the plumber. One can also expect the deficit to balloon exponentially due to his massive spending programs.
Do you agree with the policy that will drive the deficit through the roof and take your hard earned money and pass it out to people who can't cut it?

Military Policy: If Obama is elected, it will be the first time in history that America will elect a President who will preside over three wars (Iraq, Afghanistan and the global war on terror). Obama will also be a war time President who has not even the remotest experience with management or military strategy or war in general. In the one chance he had as an elected official, he showed his flawed judgment by declaring the surge a failure before it was even implemented. If he had been allowed to have his way, the troops would already be home by now, the surge would have never occurred and Iraq would be in a state of genocide and chaos. His logic is that we should not have been there in the first place. This is a backward facing view that the next President cannot afford to have.
Do you trust a man who was never even a boy scout and has not even run a hot dog stand to manage three wars?

Taxes: Every chance he has had to vote for tax cuts or to vote against tax increases, Obama has said no. The only tax cuts Obama has given are rhetorical. But now he promises to cut your taxes and that of 95% of Americans. He will also be running a welfare program in effect by giving tax rebate checks to people that do not pay any income taxes. You should also keep in mind that Bill Clinton ran on a platform of tax cuts but raised taxes once he got elected. It would simply be extremely irresponsible not to raise taxes to pay for the enormous spending programs the Democrats have in mind.
Do you have enough faith in Obama's word that he will not raise taxes even though the record of Democrats and Obama himself reflects the opposite?

Healthcare: Sen. Obama will have the government run the healthcare system for you. This is the government that cannot even secure the country's borders. Besides its ineffectiveness, imagine the experiences you will have at a government run health care facility (hint: think about your last visit to the DMV or the social security office).
Do you feel confident and hopeful about seeing a government appointed DMV style clerk for your healthcare needs?

Energy: It is not a stretch to state that Obama's experience with energy issues is limited to his experience at the local gas station. He voted for a disastrous energy bill and was also opposed to offshore drilling and nuclear power but now supports both. You would be right to assume that he shifted with the polls on energy issues just like he did on FISA and the Patriot Act.
Do you trust Obama to not change his mind and go back to his original views once he is elected?

Associations and Judgment: Obama has made his campaign about judgement being more important than experience. However the only people he has been closely associated for an extended period of time have turned out to be unsavory to say the least. He could not recognize or chose to ignore the characters of men like Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers. Associating with hate mongering pastors, shady political fixers and unrepentant terrorists would be non issues if Obama had a long record that would have helped Americans 'know' him. But he does not, so these are legitimate issues.
Do you feel safe and sure about Obama's judgment and ability to deal with rogue world leaders when he could not even correctly judge the characters of people he has known for years?

Leadership and Crisis Management: Barack Obama has never had to face (let alone lead people out of) a crisis and yet as President he will face the biggest challenges in the history of this country. His only real exposure to failure was losing a bid for the US House of Representatives! He has spent his career as a go along – get along politician with malleable convictions. No one has the faintest idea about how he will react to failure or resolve disputes or face a crisis situation.
Do you have enough proof or faith to be sure that he will not crack under pressure? What if he does?

The doubts about Obama's leadership ability are not only on the Republican side. Bill Clinton has said that electing Obama would be a roll of the dice. Joe Biden said that Obama will need on the job training. It is true that almost all Presidents have had 'on the job training' to an extent (it is the nature of the job) but Obama's learning curve will be extremely steep. It would be like hiring a gas station attendant to be the CEO of Exxon-Mobil.  You are undecided about Barack Obama because he has not closed the deal with you. There is plenty of doubt and uncertainity facing this country ranging from economic, foreign and military affairs.
Do you think it is wise to add to the uncertainty by electing a candidate whose leadership, crisis management and governing skills are a complete mystery?

John McCain is by no means perfect but at least you know where he will take the country and what his leadership and crisis management skills are like. You know about his convictions and his record of standing up for what he believes in no matter the political consequence. He has faced the toughest personal and political crises and come out on top.

That feeling in your gut which has kept you from supporting Obama (and that which has been falsely and unfairly attributed to closet racism) is actually a vital and reasonable recognition of the risks posed by an Obama presidency.

Don't ignore it.

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About Krutic

  • Xpressions

    The undecided voter must choose between a candidate with no experience or proven track record, and the candidate who wants you to take a chance. If you have money to spread, you may choose to gamble with the socialist illuminati politicians, but those who aren’t in a position to gamble with their finances, and our troops welfare will go to the right.

  • Cindy D

    Obama wants to set up interactive communication with citizens:

    Now Obama’s got Colin Powell and Google?

    “I’ll put government data online in universally accessible formats,” he said. “I’ll let citizens track federal grants, contracts, earmarks, and lobbyist contacts. I’ll let you participate in government forums, ask questions in real time, offer suggestions that will be reviewed before decisions are made, and let you comment on legislation before it is signed. And to ensure that every government agency is meeting 21st century standards, I’ll appoint the nation’s first Chief Technology Officer.”

    A more interesting article–as opposed to the same mundane stuff.

    Dave you need to tell Eric Schmidt, Google’s CEO, he’s on the wrong side!

  • I have chosen to be undecided this election, an artificial state originally triggered by a desire to use this year’s vote to teach my kids a lesson in civics vs. partisanship. Assuming the best of both candidates turned out to be quite liberating in terms of letting me explore the election from different angles. If you’re interested in looking into what at least one undecided is thinking, you can visit the blog I created.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    #56 Agreed. As I have said before. And Harper’s Magazine recently said so, too. They have statistics that say that 70% of voters who SAY they are undecided have already made up their minds.

    I say the other 30% are dissembling:)

  • Clavos

    Turns on a dime…

    El Chingón

  • moon

    I believe that’s what those emoticoms were designed for?

    Never have used them myself, but my 11 year old niece is big on them.

  • Moon, which thread did you intend to post the “Oh?” to? I should be able to move it for you.

  • OK, Moon.

    Sometimes I think I should find out if there’s some sort of code I could paste, which would cause a flag with the word ‘joke’ on it to appear when one points one’s mouse over a comment…

  • moon


    Not a funny one.

    One of the things that it’s VERY important to know when changing cultures–or trying to–is what are the Sacred Cows.

    Here in Mexico, Nobel Laureate for Literature Octavio Paz is definitely one of them. His book, El laberinto de la soledad, though written more than 50 years ago, is considered to be the bible on Mexican character and culture, and in that book he devotes an entire chapter to the word that you found to be so offensive–including the history of Malinche that contextualizes it.

    The Grito–or replication of Hidalgo’s 1810 cry for independence that is enacted each September 15th at 11 p.m. includes this central phrase: ¡Viva México, hijos de la Ch—–a!

    Foolish and/or uninformed foreigners rush in where angels fear to tread….especially on the hooves of sacred cows.

  • Undecided voters? Come on — who’s really undecided at this point?

  • Moon,


  • Krutic @ #45:

    That’s better. Your questions are, as Moon observed, the same, but phrased in a more responsible and less rabble-rousing way.

    I don’t recall expressing an opinion here as to whether I think Obama is qualified to be president or not. In fact, while I was confident he’d make a great president one day, I initially thought he should have waited for the next go-around. That said, I’m not sure it’s even a reliable indicator. There have been some great presidents who had minimal experience, and some apparently eminently qualified ones who made a complete bollockfest of the whole thing.


    1. Nothing specific springs to mind. Although he does hold a degree in political science with an emphasis on international relations.
    2. Director of the Developing Communities Project and Project Vote in Chicago
    3. His entire presidential campaign and particularly the last couple of months
    4. See #1. (Out of interest, what is your benchmark on this one? How, in your view, did the current president do bearing in mind his similar lack of prior experience in this area?)
    5. See here, with particular reference to bullet point 2.

    BTW, nice try at wriggling out of asking any awkward questions about McCain on the grounds that everything is known about him. All the facts about Obama are readily accessible as well: he just hasn’t been a public figure for as long, so they’re not ancient history.

  • moon


    Have you seen me make ANY use of that word here besides the purely academic use mentioned in my post to you?

    I don’t think so.

    So it’s not a question of liberal use at all, is it?

    It’s a question of your threatening me–showing off an unpaid token of power that is apparently important to you.

    I suggest you refrain from threats.

    In fact, I believe threatening other posters is against the rules of this site.

  • I am not sure I could live for very long in a place where I couldn’t send folks to the Chingada and have them understand precisely what I meant!

    Very elegant… and very MR.

    Although I’m not ashamed to admit that I had to go and look up chingar. I was lucky enough to find the admirably comprehensive entry in the Urban Dictionary, which conveys what you mean quite well.

    As Chris’s assistant slasher, I’d advise you not to make too liberal a use of the word and its derivatives here, though…

  • moon

    Look, kid, it doesn’t matter if it’s a CUT or NOT A CUT: It’s money.

    A little more reality-based thinking puts a LOT more money in your wallet.

  • *it is not a cut when you dont contribute anything*

  • #46:
    You are kidding right?
    I am not sure about the exact percentage but about 30% or so of working americans pay no federal income tax. How exactly do you give them a tax cut? By cutting a WELFARE check. It is not a cut then you dont contribute anything.
    So save me the middle class victim card.

  • Cindy D


  • moon

    Krutic: Those are the same questions.

    Give us credit for a LITTLE intelligence, will you?

    Tactics like yours are–take your pick:

    a) Infantile

    b) Insulting to other posters

    I don’t believe that your original post should have been published here.

  • Cindy D


    I would have loved if McCain did that.

    Obama would have simply said at the debate, what he said at a rally. That McCain was so out of touch he’s calling a tax cut for the middle class welfare.

    Krutic, could you send some of your advice to McCain, based on his campaign so far, he’s very likely to take it.

  • #39:

    One can safely assume that people who are on the fence, kind of like obama and are impressed by him but aren’t sure why he should be President.
    Everything to be known about McCain is known. Obama is the unknown quantity..so the real undecided voter might actually think about the questions.

    And since you are so convinced he is qualified..maybe you can answer a few of the questions such as..

    1)an example where he has faced a real crisis and gotten out of it or led people out of it.(and no doing coke and trying to quit it doesnt count)

    2) Something in his past that will show his management or governing skill and style

    3) Something in his record that will inspire confidence to the voters that he will not crack under pressure

    4) Something in his record that inspires confidence about his ability to handle military and war policy and where he has stood up for something without flinching or changing his mind.

    5) His votes where he voted for a tax cut or his record of accomplishing anything that did not require 50 other people to vote for it.
    (Palin at least gave tangible tax cuts and cut spending..something that be measured.)

    Simple questions..non rhetorical..non trick questions..if you can answer Im sure the undecideds will take it into account and make a fair judgement.

  • moon

    And that 850 billion dollar bailout?

    That wasn’t welfare for the rich?

    Get real.

  • McCain is finally talking about Obama’s tax cuts are a clever way to hide a welfare program..
    I guess its better late than never!
    He really should have brought that up in the debate.

  • According to a classmate, Barack Obama was a Boy Scout.

  • moon

    Language is always a barrier–even if the languages involved are of the same family.

    Mexican Spanish is, in my opinion, much richer in double meanings and what we call modismos (idiomatic expressions) than other countries’ versions of Spanish. Despite the fact that Mexican soap operas are shown all over Latin America, most folks in the other countries have a LOT of trouble understanding our modismos.

    And even something as simple as the multiple uses and abuses of the verb chingar and its noun and adjective forms are Greek to folks in South America.

    I am not sure I could live for very long in a place where I couldn’t send folks to the Chingada and have them understand precisely what I meant!

  • Moon: The key to living in another culture is elasticity.

    Absolutely. I’ve already experienced this, of course, with my move from Britain to the US, although to some extent I’d already been immersed in the culture through the proliferation of American TV, movies and consumer goods.

    Language, though, proved to be more of a barrier than you’d think!

  • @ #35:

    So I was right then.

    They really aren’t questions for the undecided voter at all.

    You’re clearly assuming that there is only one way the people you’re addressing will go. That, monsieur, is not an undecided voter. That is you.

    A genuinely on-the-fence-at-this-point voter will see through your bullshit in half a second.

    I really don’t know who you hope to influence. Perhaps a more honest title for your article would have been ‘Questions for the Sucker Voter Who Just Emerged from 38 Years of Seclusion in a Hermitage and Has No Idea Who Barack Obama Is’.

    (In keeping with this new writing trend on Blogcritics, the title of my next piece will be ‘Sarah Palin: the Unvarnished Truth’, but the article will actually be about the unemployment rate in the Alaskan logging industry.)

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    Like I said earlier, the questions are for the non koolaid drinkers who haven’t accepted Obama as their lord and savior..so you guys don’t qualify..sorry!

    Actually I don’t even know what koolaid is so you’re one step ahead of me there. Jokes on you bud.

  • moon

    You’re learning. The key to living in another culture is elasticity.

    Here in Mexico the city and rural buses are largely de-regulated as well–only the new buses in Mexico City (a very tiny minority) are operated by the local government. I usually take the Metro in Mexico City.

    In my neck of the woods each combi usually has a different owner–but all the routes are NUMBERED anyway (never been in a country where they were not numbered) so drivers certainly CAN tell you which line to take–and usually even which combi.

    I have yet to get on the wrong one in my more than 15 years here, and I take them all the time, as I sold my VW Beetle to the highest bidder 9 years ago.

  • Moon,

    Generally good advice, although:

    1. The taxi drivers in Rio and Buenos Aires seemed to know their way around pretty well – at least, they dropped us off where we wanted to go! They were pretty grumpy though.

    2. Buses in Peru generally, and Lima particularly, are completely deregulated. The government/city provides nothing, so you have several hundred private companies running an assortment of vehicles, many of which don’t even look as if they might be public buses. It’s highly unlikely that the driver of any given bus will be able to tell you which particular one to take to where you want to go. I guess the key here is just to keep asking every bus that comes along until you hit the right one.

    You’re right about communication: what I’ve found in South America generally, and Peru particularly, is that I have to quickly ditch my Saxon reserve and not only ask questions, but ask the right questions… otherwise I’m just going to get told what the person thinks I want to hear!

  • #32, #33:

    Like I said earlier, the questions are for the non koolaid drinkers who haven’t accepted Obama as their lord and savior..so you guys don’t qualify..sorry!

  • moon

    Dr. Dreadful:

    1. Taxistas all over Latin America don’t know their way around the cities they work in. Every day is an adventure for them. When I first moved to Mexico and needed to go into Mexico City I took a detailed map with me so I could direct the taxistas. In very little time I knew the city like the back of my hand.

    2. Buses of all kinds that stop for passengers: ASK the driver if he’s passing by wherever you go. It has always worked for me. If he isn’t he will tell you which bus to take.

    Living here is really very simple–but it frequently requires more communication than gringos are willing to participate in.

  • pleasexcusetheinterruption

    This was dumb. Not going to bother responding.

  • Lisa Solod Warren

    This OPINION article is a load of you know what. It isn’t even an opinion article because it pretends to be bi partisan…… the questions are all loaded toward McCain,clearly….. and presented as such.

    Ridiculous. No one should even bother with it.

    And if you haven’t made up your mind by now, you’re either lying or not paying any attention. So what’s the point?

  • “Do you agree with the policy that will drive the deficit through the roof and take your hard earned money and pass it out to people who can’t cut it?”

    Just curious. Are those ‘people’ the airline industry, the automotive industry, the banking industry, or Wall Street?

    “the surge would have never occurred”

    According to sources, such as in Woodward’s ‘The War Within,’ it’s not the surge that is quelling the violence. It’s the clandestine removal of targets.

    The questions posed and the conclusions reached in this article are cliched talking points that grow more tiresome with each repetition. It gives me a feeling in my gut that I won’t ignore.

  • Cindy D

    Well, why would he do that Dr.D? He’s already decided what these brilliant, truly impartial independents will conclude. He just went straight to the chase.


    Krutic, are you single? There seems to be a woman meant just for you at the Obama is a fake citizen article.

  • Dr Dreadful, leave Krutic alone!!! (Better if propagandists stay inept.)

  • #31:

    Come on, Krutic, those are blatantly leading questions and no-one but the most partisan right-winger would regard them as in any way valid in the form you put them.

    If you were truly interested in being fair, you’d be asking the ‘undecideds’ about McCain as well and be phrasing your questions about both candidates in an even-handed and unemotive way.

  • I do find it odd that this ‘AXJ’ character showed up at just about exactly the same time that Janica posted her spurious article about Obama’s citizenship.

  • Dan and Moon, thanks for the helpful comments.

    Yes, the re-election of García (actually, he ran again twice and was only narrowly defeated the first time!) seems incomprehensible on the face of it. I think, considering the available alternatives, the Peruvians took the attitude of ‘better the devil you know’. Shades of USA 2004, perhaps…

    I think García followed the same line of reasoning when he appointed Yehude Simon. The governor’s, um… colorful background must not have seemed like such an obstacle when you consider that the primary qualification for high office in Peru is the possession of a rap sheet longer than War and Peace!

    My remark about public transport was based on the facts that (1) most taxi drivers don’t know the cities they work in at all (a lot of them are newly arrived from the country to try to make a better living) and often ask their passengers for directions, and (2) buses – although there are plenty of them – are completely unregulated and there is absolutely no way to tell where the heck any given bus is going unless you happen to figure out what the guy who leaps out the side and opens the door is yelling. (The colorful destination signs hand-painted onto the sides of the bus mean absolutely nothing.)

    Nevertheless, moving there might be worth it just to use the mototaxis they have in the rural areas.

  • #6:
    Come on Dr Dreadful, the questions are for the truly undecided voters – you know the non cult members.

    The ones that will compare obama to past presidential candidates and come to the conclusion that he has no governing skill or style, no issue that he specializes in, no track record of managing or running *anything*.

    These voters are uncomfortable with the fact that the only qualification Obama brings to the table is excellent teleprompter reading skills.

    They know that when the rhetoric is peeled away and the teleprompter taken away, Obama is WAY out of his league here.

  • moon

    The bottom line is this:

    If you aren’t willing to become fluent in the language and be a VIABLE and PRODUCTIVE part of the local culture,

    it would be better to stay home.

    (I think that’s what Gringos take so much joy in telling folks from Latin America, ain’t it now?)

  • In re Comment #15,

    I recommend spending a fair amount of time in any country you are thinking about moving to. . . .

    Quoted not only for truth, but for absolute truth. Anyway, it’s becoming rather a buyer’s market here in the highlands, because many Gringos fall in love with the place during the dry season and can’t abide it during the rainy season. Others (perhaps more) decide that they don’t like them stupid foreigners here who don’t even speak English and are incompetent for other similar reasons. Others ditto for any number of reasons which they would have discovered had they only spent some time here.

    Fortunately, since the Gringo exodus seems currently to exceed the Gringo invasion, there lots of nice rental properties available. Google Boquete and you will find a bunch.


  • moon

    I doubt seriously that any of you BC jokers are going to fly down to Cuautla, Morelos, Mexico to see my doc, Javier. BUT:

    He’s a regular MD, trained in Colombia and he does all the usual Physician Surgeon stuff if that’s what you want. Including obstetrics.

    He trained for 4 years in China.

    In addition to acupuncture and homeopathy he also does Bach Flower.

    I would trust him over any of the arrogant and self-aggrandizing MDs I saw in the US back in the day–it’s not even a contest.

  • Doc, in comment #12, you cite the following potential problems in Latin America and ask about:

    1. Ultra-persistent street vendors with infallible gringo radar. True in any of the big cities I have been to here. Rural areas here, as in Venezuela several years ago, were different. We didn’t leave Cartagena while in Colombia even more years ago, because we were chicken. Sometimes, chicken is good.

    2. There does not exist in the entire country a napkin larger than a postage stamp. Can’t help you. Bring your own, perhaps?

    3. Perfunctory public transport. Two answers: compared to what? And see my response to your number 1. Public transportation in the rural areas of Panama is quite good. It has to be, since many people don’t have cars.

    4. The fact that Peruvian civic life seems to resemble its US cousin in miniature, being as it is driven in large part by personality, scandal, ‘gotcha’ politics and oil. That’s above my pay grade. I will comment that in Merida, Venezuela, we were impressed with the cultural benefits offered. It is (was) a pleasant university city.

    Or, since I can cope with the altitude, perhaps I should just move to Bolivia instead? See my response to #4.

    So why not come to the beautiful highlands of Panama, where (in the quite rural area where we live) all the women are good looking and all the children are above average? Or was that some other place? Alternatively, there are some really cool stupid gated communities for Gringos in Boquete, some 40 minutes away. In any event, I promise to have a cold bottle of (local) cold beer or two or three waiting for you.


  • moon

    Ah, Nalle’s open mind is like Grand Canyon on a lovely fall day.

    The proof of the pudding, Nalle, is that I will probably still be alive when Blogcritics has sprinkled your ashes on the White House roses.

    Which may or may not be a good thing.

  • Jet

    “I have been using acupuncturists for primary care for…..25 years”… That should explain a lot, but for some reason it doesn’t.

    There are many acupuncturists with great qualifications…

    …then again

  • moon

    And you can also read my Who Cares comment on the Citizen of the World thread.

    Lighten up.

    Your vote will not be counted.

    You will get what




  • Just coincidentally, I have been using acupuncturists for primary care for…..25 years.

    For the record, my cousin is a trained accupuncturist who apprenticed in China and also a board certified surgeon, so I’m willing to consider that accupuncture may have some validity. That said, even the most basic understanding of chemistry suggests that homeopathy cannot possibly do anything by any means other than the placebo effect.

    So, Nalle, I hate to disappoint you, but by avoiding allopathic quacks I may just live as long as McCain’s mother–who is getting pretty close to 100.

    You unquestionably get more benefit from avoiding the allopaths than you do from frequenting the homeopath.

    And I have all of my beautiful strawberry blond hair.

    Doesn’t it make you weep with suicidal fantasies?

    The hair, perhaps…having gone bald at 20 I hardly remember what hair looks like on my head.


  • Jet
  • Jet

    AXJ, I hate to bring this up but Hawaii is in the United States, just because Bush calls it one or our greatest allies in the Pacific doesn’t meant it’s not part of the U.S.

    Hawaii became a state in the late 50s and Obama was born in 1961.

    Your blatant ignorance is going to stain your credibility…

    Not that it wasn’t already (:^p~~~~~~~~~~~

  • AXJ

    Obama is not a U.S. natural born citizen so he cannot occupy the position of President of the US. Read the complaint and then decide. How can you vote for someone that hasn’t been honest about his childhood?

  • moon

    Dr. D:

    I didn’t escape, exactly. But I did apply a version of the e e cummings poem, “There’s a Better Universe Next Door–Let’s Go”, and went TO Mexico to write and produce theater about a Mexican revolutionary figure, Emiliano Zapata (whose birth village I live in).

    I can think of a number of good reasons to give Peru a pass, but will give you two:

    1. It’s current president, Alan Garcia, in his last term (1985-90) oversaw inflation at 2 million percent and ushered in the dictatorship of a Japanese guy, Fujimori. Garcia is doing so poorly this time around that Chavez is building houses for the earthquake victims there and a former guerrilla just took over as head of Garcia’s cabinet (after all the cabinet resigned in a corruption scandal) to give Garcia credibility.

    2. Peru’s treatment of its indigenous folks and campesinos in the Sierra is the stuff of nightmares. Manuel Scorza (talented writer who died in a plane crash in Madrid in I believe 1982) wrote a series of novels about Peruvian politics and selling out to multinationals–you can Google to see if any of those books have been translated into English–or read them in Spanish.

    As for Bolivia, this is not the best possible moment for a gringo to turn up there. BUT, from my own limited experience of its president, Evo Morales, with whom I spent one morning in Caracas 5 years ago, he has a pretty good radar for sincerity.

    I recommend spending a fair amount of time in any country you are thinking about moving to–I spent two years going back and forth between Mexico and Santa Fe, NM, before I loaded what would fit into a 1965 VW Beetle (ideal for Mexican orads) and headed south permanently.

  • No indeed, Dan, ya got me fair and square.

    I venture to suggest that Mr Siddiqi might take a different view, though.

  • Doc, re comment #9, Thank Zeus you didn’t take it as a personal attack :>


  • Dan and Moon, as people who have, for different reasons I suspect, escaped the US for Latin America, I wonder what your opinions would be of a nascent plan to emigrate to Peru?

    I love the place, but have a few reservations, including:

    1. Ultra-persistent street vendors with infallible gringo radar
    2. There does not exist in the entire country a napkin larger than a postage stamp
    3. Perfunctory public transport
    4. The fact that Peruvian civic life seems to resemble its US cousin in miniature, being as it is driven in large part by personality, scandal, ‘gotcha’ politics and oil.

    Or, since I can cope with the altitude, perhaps I should just move to Bolivia instead?

  • We’re lucky to benefit from Moon’s talent for transforming every partisan propaganda vehicle into a vessel for respectful and thoughtful conversation.

  • Dan @ #2: Not exactly what I was intending to illustrate there, as I suspect you know full well. Still, I suppose I must accept your invocation of it under the Fair Use doctrine. In which case, you’re welcome.

  • moon

    Right, Nalle.

    I am almost 64–and have been living with systemic lupus since I was a baby. I have already passed all actuarial expectations for folks with that illness by almost 25 years. Google that if you don’t believe me.

    Just coincidentally, I have been using acupuncturists for primary care for…..25 years.

    So, Nalle, I hate to disappoint you, but by avoiding allopathic quacks I may just live as long as McCain’s mother–who is getting pretty close to 100.

    And I have all of my beautiful strawberry blond hair.

    Doesn’t it make you weep with suicidal fantasies?

  • Krutic pretty much runs the catalog of logical fallacies here.

    Of course he isn’t canvassing any opinions but his own, but nevertheless a term from that line of work springs immediately to mind:

    ‘Push poll’.

  • My healthcare is in the hands of a Colombian acupuncturist and homeopath.

    Well, at least we won’t have to worry about MR harassing us for too much longer. One serious infection and it’s all over.


  • moon

    S/B loaded article, not load article.

  • moon

    This is such a jejunely load article that I am not sure I should even respond to the questions. Nevertheless:

    1. The economy has always been in the hands of folks who cut it for themselves and cut everybody else out.

    2. Military policy is hardly a merit badge topic. The current president bankrupted all the businesses he had a hand in, so the gringo voters gave him a bigger business. That kind of stupidity is, probably, its own reward.

    3. Taxes are something this poster, who had a very successful accounting practice in Gringolandia for many years, knows something about. Enough to know that no pol can ever be trusted to fulfill campaign promises.

    4. My healthcare is in the hands of a Colombian acupuncturist and homeopath. I wouldn’t get near a doc in Gringolandia for love nor money, so who runs the deal doesn’t matter to me.

    5. See number 3.

    6. The most rogueish leaders on the planet are Bush/Cheney, so I consider the question irrelevant.

    7. Gringos ALL crack under pressure. That’s why your current government goons did 9/11, and continue to feed you a diet of terrorism and fear-mongering.

    The feeling in my gut is trustworthy–I paid heed to it and left Gringolandia for good more than 15 years ago.

    The feeling in YOUR gut may be less trustworthy, as you are taking this silly Tweedledum and Tweedledee choice seriously.

    I suggest you try Alka Seltzer before going any further with this.

  • Sadly and inexcusably, in my earlier comment on this thread, I neglected to mention that there are others to whom President Obama could turn in times of Crisis. Doc, on another thread, (Comment #7) was kind enough to provide this link. Thanks and a tip ‘o the hat to ye, Doc.


  • Don’t Worry. Senator Obama can handle it. Just ask his running mate, Senator Biden.

    Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected president, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in office, a comment Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., intends to highlight Monday, aides said, in order to highlight concerns some voters have had about Obama’s preparedness to be commander-in-chief.

    “Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee said at a Seattle fundraiser Sunday, “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

    “I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said, including the Middle East and Russia as possibilities, “and he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.” emphasis added, probably unnecessarily.

    Perhaps the White House has a call forwarding service which can transfer the “3:00 a.m. calls” to Senator Clinton. Or perhaps to someone else. Professor Ayers, the Reverend Mr. Wright, or perhaps Minister Farrakhan. We must all be ready to help. I certainly agree with Senator Biden that Senator Obama, if elected, will need all the help he can get.