With Bin Laden Dead Who'll Be The Next Terror Bogeyman? - Page 2

Author: RealistPublished: Sep 23, 2006 at 3:20 pm 9 comments

Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government. "They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it," he said.

L’Est Republicain reported on its website on Saturday that it based its information on a document classified ‘defence secret’ originating in the French DGSE intelligence services. The DGSE document, printed with the report, reads in part, "According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi intelligence services are said to have acquired the information that Osama bin Laden is dead. The information gleaned by the Saudis indicates that the head of Al Qaeda was a victim of a very strong attack of thyphoid... in Pakistan on August 23, 2006." The document goes on to say that bin Laden’s geographical isolation rendered all medical assistance impossible.

Now let's look at an alternate view.

Let's say Osama did die. Al Qaeda is already distributed around the globe and acting independently of centralized command and control, and the death of its original organizer isn't going to affect them much beyond a personal sadness over his passing among his followers. It will have no effect on their activities.

We should, in fact, hope that this is true for one reason. His dying of 'natural' causes rather than being roasted with a Hellfire or obliterated with a Tomahawk at US hands eliminates the revenge factor. The added incentive to strike against the Great Satan just might make the difference between success and failure for a terror operation.

But note that the rumors originate from the Saudis. Could this rumor of bin Laden dying just be a psy-op means by which an aging and ailing Osama can covertly return to Saudi Arabia and live a life of quiet and anonymous retirement? It wouldn't be the first time he was let off the hook by the US. Remember his escape from Tora Bora when he was supposed to be surrounded?

The Saudi Government has enough clout with Washington, both officially and through its long-term business ties with the Bush family, to ensure that such a retirement could happen. The bin Laden family itself has extensive ties to the Bush business interests, so it isn't much of a stretch to suggest that Osama's family might well be pulling a few strings to protect a prodigal son who has returned home.

And that bold Bush promise to bring bin Laden to Justice? Make me laugh!

Please.

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  • 1 - JP

    Sep 23, 2006 at 4:43 pm

    I doubt he's dead; I see two possibilities:

    (1) He will release another Late-October-Even-Numbered-Year video to help throw the election for Republicans, under the guise of refuting rumors of his death.

    (2) In the event the rumor is true, it will be confirmed sometime next month with the production of a corpse.

    Either way, a classic and predictable Karl Rove play.

  • 2 - JR

    Sep 23, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    Could this rumor of bin Laden dying just be a psy-op means by which an aging and ailing Osama can covertly return to Saudi Arabia and live a life of quiet and anonymous retirement?

    Considering that bin Laden's primary enemy was the Saudi regime, and he only attacked the U.S. to remove the Saudis' source of money and power...

    No.

    Assuming the report were fake, the best reason for the fraud would be to get bin Laden to issue another video and perhaps give us more clues as to his location.

  • 3 - lil lilo

    Sep 23, 2006 at 5:48 pm

    well - i think maybe it is possible he has 'died' in order to be re-incarnated somewhere else - like 'saudi arabia' in order to be there on time for the beginning of ramadan -
    also - because of the extensive ties and 'utility' of the myth of 'osama' maybe he won't be making 'headlines' quite yet - because his being 'alive' still serves a purpose -
    maybe he is in a 'touch and go' situation - where his ambiguous status creates uncertainty allowing obscurity to hide what is really going on between different information networks?

    maybe a new bogeyman is yet to appear in another middle eastern country we didn't yet hear about?

    maybe the saudis told the french to stitch them up some how? Maybe Osama's going to Paris for Ramadan?



  • 4 - Brent

    Sep 23, 2006 at 7:54 pm

    I didn't know bin Laden was a golfer. Given their performance this weekend, I suppose the next "bogeyman" could be anyone from the US Ryder Cup team.

    [sic]

  • 5 - Nancy

    Sep 24, 2006 at 4:15 am

    Brent #4 - ROTFLOL! That's pretty funny; thanks for the laugh. Yeah, I won't believe he's dead until I see a carcass & a DNA confirmation of same. I suspect this is a ploy, not so much to allow him to 'retire' but to allow him to assume anonymity & possibly get medical attention somewhere. He's supposedly had kidney failure for some time, remember, and I doubt there are many facilities for that in the Afghan/Paki mountains he's supposed to be skulking in. That said, I would also assume if he were truly dead, the various terrorist organizations might want to trumpet his "entry into paradise", but then he might be more useful dead if his enemies still thought he was alive, so it can go either way. I certainly wouldn't put it past Bush to let him go under pressure from the Saudis as well as the binLaden family, since Bush is notoriously friendly & obsequious to both.

  • 6 - som

    Sep 24, 2006 at 4:49 am


    he still alive, as Saudi Arabin Embassy in Washington has issued a statement saying that it had no evidence about Osama's death.

    On the other handm a report brought by CNN said that he is not died but is is ill.

  • 7 - scout

    Sep 26, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    pess, or real, how great to see you on a site with some comment rules! What a total surprise, as I had written TLC off completely. I'll get back later.

  • 8 - STM

    Sep 26, 2006 at 11:29 pm

    Just the involvement of the French in this should be enough to raise the suspicion of most reasonable people in relation to the veracity of the report.

    Not to suggest that they are duplicitous or anything, but until I hear it from sources not connected to the French, I remain sceptical.


  • 9 - Clavos

    Sep 26, 2006 at 11:46 pm

    Go ahead, STM. We're a sympathetic audience, say it. The...French...are...duplicitous.

    Cherchez la monnaie!

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