Will Diebold And Mistrust Of Voting Machines Spell Trouble Or Salvation For GOP 2006 Midterms? - Comments Page 7

Is it time to have the United Nations keep an eye on our elections?

The working title of this article used to be “Election 2006: Can Diebold Save the GOP?” but as more and more evidence mounts, that’s actually become a rhetorical question. The new question is will they, as increasing substantiation and public opinion seems to be favoring the forgone conclusion that they surely can.…
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  • 276 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:18 pm

    John Q, as I recall after Bush barely won the 2004 election he claimed he had a "mandate" from the people, and that he'd earned some political capital that he intended to spend.

    I believe that should give the Democrats some leeway using the same principle wouldn't you?

    Including using quotes

    ...but of course that's only my opinion!


    Jet

  • 277 - John Q. Public

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:22 pm

    Jet, I understand where you are coming from here. But I'm a staunch supporter of trying to be better than those I oppose.
    Forgetting that is one of the military blunders this administration has suffered from when dealing with domestic discussions, as well as some of their military policies and domestic wiretapping, among other things.
    I don't want to see those who have been voted in , or their supporters, making the same kind of mistakes that the more vocal Republicans and their coterie have done in the last few years.
    Like Mark Schannon said in another article, the best place to start such an endeavor is with yourself, and by reaching out rather than slapping down those you disagree with.

  • 278 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:29 pm

    John, there are those here who have taken great pleasure in keeping my head forced painfully against the floor with the heel of their boots... and enjoying every damned minute of it

    I believe I can spend a day enjoying myself in celebration at the sight of them in my former position. I've shed and endured enough verbal blood here to be entitled a day of feeling good.

    Tomorrow, I'll extend my hand, weary of getting it bitten.

  • 279 - John Q. Public

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:33 pm

    Jet, a fair enough point and position. I do think that you are entitled to slap any that try to bite you on the snout with a rolled up newspaper.

    Now, if you happened to have a lead pipe in that rolled up newspaper, accidents do happen.

  • 280 - MCH

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:46 pm

    Jet;

    Just from what I heard on TV today...
    I don't believe Burns can get an automatic recount, since the margin of Tester's victory was more than .5 percent...I believe he can request a recount, but must pay a fee first, and if he loses the recount too, then forfeits the fee...

    BTW, the last I heard "the Idiot" hasn't even had enough class to concede yet...


    Signed,
    One of those extreme, radical liberal Montanans who helped vote Burns out...(smile)

  • 281 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    Thanks MCH, Allen in Virginia by the same token can request a recount too, but let's look at the result.

    The vote is all done electronically with no paper trail, so the recount will be the same or very close to the original, and there's no way he can pick up 7000 votes.

    But say he does, what then

    He flips the Senate, and American resentment will build against his own party, with disasterous results in 2008.

    if he's wise he'll bide his time instead of trying to be a hero.

    Same for Burns

    Jet

  • 282 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:55 pm

    Oh and I'm proud to be a Moonbat today too MCH

  • 283 - MCH

    Nov 08, 2006 at 4:57 pm

    Re #269;

    Yep, I noticed the same thing, Nancy.

    On a different topic, did anyone get see James Carville tell Bill Bennett to shut the fuck up, on CNN last night? I woulda loved to see the Marine jump up and bitch-slap that slob of a draft-dodger on national TV!!

  • 284 - Nancy

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:04 pm

    Good idea, that, about a lead pipe hidden in the rolled-up paper. You have a suitably evil mind....

    Well, of course they're all going to make noises about demanding recounts, etc. If you were standing in front of a crowd of a couple hundred or so supporters who'd worked their butts off trying to get your sorry ass elected, and you were watching the numbers tank on you, & they were all standing there with their eyes FIXED on you, silently demanding some answers, wouldn't YOU make noises about 'we've won, and a recount will prove it - tomorrow'? That way, y'see, you can avoid being torn to pieces by said enraged mob of disappointed supporters, & can make excuses & concede at a later date, with a little dignity, instead of having to be chased thru the back kitchen of the local Holiday Inn by your howling adorers.

  • 285 - Nancy

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:07 pm

    Weeeeellll...maybe I'll sign if you can find one with a gay couple kissing in front of the white house while holding a fetus in a bottle or something.

  • 286 - Lumpy

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:08 pm

    I suspect JOM, Arch and the rest of their ilk have headed to the local militia training station to get ready for the great resistence.

  • 287 - John Q. Public

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:14 pm

    Unfortunately, Lumpy, far more likely that the rabid faction of the Republicans are consulting right now on their next set of talking points and attack strategies.

    Let us hope that saner minds prevail.

  • 288 - Nancy

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:15 pm

    What do they figure they're going to be resisting? Hordes of gay couples kissing on their lawns? Lots'a good white folks being forcibly converted to Islam? Mobs coming & tearing down the plastic Santas & singing choirboys on their rooftops? Perhaps French invaders spewing irregular verbs all over their women & children?

  • 289 - MCH

    Nov 08, 2006 at 5:26 pm

    "I suspect JOM, Arch and the rest of their ilk have headed to the local militia training station to get ready for the great resistence."
    - Lumpy

    Like yourself, anything to keep from actually serving, eh Lumpy?

  • 290 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 6:15 pm

    NEWS BULETIN Local Columbus news has reported that Debra Pryce(r) may NOT have won her senate seat after all.

    United Press reported that she had 14,000 vote lead, but the ohio board of elections said that the margtin is now around 3000. With provisional ballots yet to be counted and thousands of absentee ballots mostly from Ohio State University the race may still be up for grabs...

    Stay tuned!

  • 291 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 6:20 pm

    from Channel 10 News WBNS Columbus...

    Matt Damschroder of the Franklin County Board of Elections says Pryce leads Kilroy by 3,600 votes.

    A confident, but contrite, Deborah Pryce on the one hand declaring a narrow victory over rival Mary Jo Kilroy, and on the other, saying she gets the message from voters and is leaving her conference chairmanship.

    "Because of the results of the election and because of what I heard from my constituents, and because of truly personal reasons, I am not going to be in my party's leadership in the next Congress," says Pryce.

    Her rival says Pryce won't be in Congress at all next year.

    "We have only 3,600 votes behind and there's thousands of votes left unaccounted for so we think we have...this race is not decided yet," says Kilroy.

    Kilroy says with 20,000 absentee ballots still out county-wide and 10,000 provisional ballots left to count, mostly from the OSU campus area, she can pick up enough votes to win.

    "The OSU precincts are some of the highest performing precincts for Democrats and Mary Jo did very well in those precincts and we think when all the votes are counted, we'll see Mary Jo make significant gains," says Scott Kozar.

  • 292 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 6:29 pm

    VIRGINIA SENATE TIEBREAKER MAY NOT MATTER!!!
    For the rest of this aWBNS TV rticle click anywhere in the underlined section

    Sorry I didn't provide a link to the above story. Click on the underlined area


  • 293 - John Q. Public

    Nov 08, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    Jet, the article you linked to is about a congressional race, not a senatorial contest. So how does it impact on Virginia?

  • 294 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 6:56 pm

    My bad she was a state senator and that's how they still refer to her here sometimes. Former State senator Pryce.

    my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad

    I was wrong

  • 295 - John Q. Public

    Nov 08, 2006 at 7:00 pm

    No problem Jet. We can all understand that you are absolutely giddy with glee after last night's results.

  • 296 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    It's like smoking some really good weed, but knowing your stash is gettin' low. Unlike some people on the other side of the aisle, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

    That's the only way you learn things.

  • 297 - Cameltrader

    Nov 08, 2006 at 9:15 pm

    Naked photos of Nancy Pusselosi, Diane Frankinstein, Barbara Boxer shorts, Rosie the pig O Donald and Mikeee two ton more.

  • 298 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:18 pm

    Well isn't that special?

  • 299 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:21 pm

    Nancy: 285, sorry I looked but I couldn't find one like that... And I DID look!

  • 300 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:23 pm

    Lumpy 286, It's like a breath of fresh air, or letting your belt out after a big meal.

    I don't think it'll last though
    alas

  • 301 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:24 pm

    John Q 287... we can all dream my friend, we can all dream

  • 302 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:26 pm

    Nancy:288... you forgot plastic pink flamingos on the Whitehouse lawn and nicer wallpaper in the speaker's office

  • 303 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 08, 2006 at 11:28 pm

    MCH 289: Are you still wondering why you didn't get the job at the diplmatic corps?

  • 304 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 10, 2006 at 2:09 pm

    ...a stunning 18,382 votes were either not cast or not recorded in a congressional race.

    Secretary of State Sue M. Cobb made the announcement today in a letter to Sarasota County elections chief Kathy Dent, who had asked for the audit as well as a team to observe an upcoming recount of the nationally watched election.

    Dent requested that the state office's election division perform a post-election audit to examine the ATM-style touch-screen voting machines completely, including its tabulators. Miami-Dade and Broward counties use the same type of machine, the Election Systems & Software iVotronic.

    The case has cast a national spotlight on the accuracy or usability of touch-screen voting machines, which don't have a paper-trail ballot that many activists say would make recounts more transparent.

    The recount for House District 13, in which Republican Vernon Buchanan holds a 368-vote lead over Democrat Christine Jennings, will take place Monday both in Sarasota County and in the four other counties comprising the district formerly led by Katherine Harris.


    For the rest of this MIAMI HERALD article click anywhere in the underlined section


  • 305 - Jet in Columbus

    Nov 10, 2006 at 2:17 pm

    Here's yet another!
    ...In Sumter, ballots with no recorded votes known as "undervotes" accounted for 22 percent of all ballots in the attorney general's race. In Lee, 18 percent of ballots in that race were unvoted, and in Charlotte, 21 percent were blank.

    By comparison, undervotes in those same counties in the U.S. Senate race were no higher than 1.5 percent.

    The attorney-general undervotes in Sumter, Lee and Charlotte, representing about 45,000 blank ballots, presumably would not have affected the outcome of that race, in which Republican Bill McCollum defeated Democrat Walter "Skip" Campbell. McCollum won handily in all three counties.

    In Sarasota, however, the story was much different in the race for House District 13.

    Amid the uproar over those results, Florida's Department of State announced Thursday that it would audit Sarasota County's election system. A spokeswoman from the state office said the county requested the review, only the second in Florida in four years.


    For the rest of this article click anywhere in the underlined section

  • 306 - pablo

    Oct 30, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Jet,

    As I was not active on this blog until a year ago I missed this excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

  • 307 - Jet

    Oct 30, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Well, Thanks very much Pablo, I appreciate your comment.

    Jet

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