Millions of people come to this country because America is addicted to cheap labor.
Many people would argue that the reason so many illegal immigrants come to this country is because they are poor to begin with and that our system is flawed not letting the poor people in. I think the real reason for the illegal immigration problem is a simple Economics 101 topic — Supply and Demand.…
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— go to most recent comments226 - roger nowosielski
Was looking for Richard's comment, couldn't find any. Was it wiped out?
227 - Ruvy
Roger,
You were too late - either Chris or DD got rid of the comment. While I see why - it was in rotten taste in addition to being a personal attack - it is illustrative of American bigotry with respect to immigrants. And my father, if he had ever heard someone tell him "fuck you" and "go back to the fucking country you came from", would have knocked a few teeth from his mouth. My father's temper was not expressed on fancy words on pixels....
As much as Ruvy is a friend, I have a serious difficulty living with this hatred. I realize we fucked up and in a sense, are dragging the rest of the world with us, but still . . .
My hatred? I was just giving the now absent commenter a piece of my mind - as well as some thoughts as to what would happen to him if he ran into the wrong person and didn't watch his mouth.
228 - Ruvy
Oh yeah, just so you forgot, Roger. Us Brooklyn boys, wherever we live, don't take shit from anybody. Some asshole of a midwestern bigot started talking about "Jew Nork" and "Jew Nersey" when I was taking his order at a Burger King. I told him to get the fuck out and not to come back, and to remember, restaurant managers can choose who they served - and I chose not to serve him.
229 - STM
As long as no more Americans start coming to Australia without learning the language, I'll be happy. They get down here and can't speak a word, and no one can understand a word they say.
How can anyone even think about migrating to this country without learning Australian?
Preferably, Americans should stay where they are though ... we've got enough immigrants here. If more Americans start coming and taking our jobs, too many Aussies will just let them do all the dirty jobs - any jobs, actually - and decide to go surfing instead. How can you run a country from the surf?
Which brings me to our waves. There aren't enough to go around. Stay in California! Or go to Hawaii instead!
We grew here ... you flew here.
Fly back home, you Yanks, and if you can't afford it - we'll have a whip round and get you some one-way tickets.
230 - Ruvy
Is it really that bad Down Under (where she doesn't shave)? Not enough kangaroo meat to feed the mob, eh, Stan? Times are tough all over, mate.
You know, you can always send all those Jews in Australia home so you can have yourselves 120 grams of 'roo meat a month instead of 110 grams. It'll cost to get the ration cards re-printed though....
231 - Christopher Rose
So Ruvy, your position is that we shouldn't delete comments that are offensive so you can, er, be offensive? Hmmm...
232 - Ruvy
No, Chris, not really....
mine that were offensive which I regretted, and remembering how you refused so self-righteously to do so, I thought you could leave one nasty SOB type bigot comment as an illustration of how ugly American nativist sentiment is - with the appropriate editorial comment added to make the point....
But having asked you once to delete certain comments of
But, according to the rules of the site, the comment ought to have gone - I stipulated that already. And in subsequent comments here, I accomplished what I sought to anyway. So, I'm not taking any "editorial position" here, at all.
It's kind of you to have even thought that I might have sought to do so, though....
233 - STM
Ruve: "You know, you can always send all those Jews in Australia home ..."
Sorry Ruve, no can do ... we love our rich cultural landscape and we love our Aussie four-be-twos down this neck of the woods.
Plus, there'd never be a decent slab of pastrami made again in this country if that happened (and I reckon you COULD make it from kangaroo .. it tastes like lean beef).
Like everywhere in the world, Ruve - the best-ever delis are jewish.
I'd love a nice NY-style pastrami Rachel sanger or a corned-beef Reuben number right now, with lots of dressing (sauce, we call it)!
Or also from up your way, a nice fresh-cooked shwarma with some tabouli and baba ganouj. Yum.
234 - Ruvy
Stan,
Those Jews Down Under who want a life that is more than just "surf and salami" or "surf and shwarma" will come home. Hopefully they'll do so soon. Here they can live a life filled with something that they will never get in Australia, no matter how hard they try - a clear understanding of who they are and why. Life may be great in Oz, and is probably a lot easier there in lots of ways than here. No damned drill sergeant awaits the children in Oz. War does not await the children in Oz. But you cannot give any Jew in Oz what is here for him to take - roots and rootedness.
It's good to be home, Stan. After two thousand years, it is finally good to be HOME.
235 - *3r!c@*
ALL OF YALL NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!
236 - Renee
first of all I know hundreds of Illegal immigrants who do pay taxes and don't get a tax refund if you don't beleive it google it, there is 1.3 billion in unclaimed taxes most of those coming from california. every illegal person I know does indeed pay taxes. Being married to an illegal person which I am is extremely difficult, my husband did pay all of the fees to get here did apply and guess what was denied because the US told him he didnt have anything to offer us. All he wanted to do was see his family and go back home. If we would let people come and go they would LEAVE they stay and suck up stuff because they cant come back every many have children and family here and if they leave they may never get to see them again. Also most illegal women who have children here cannot get benefits only the ones that are there for the child who is born here. Just so every one who talks about learn our language knows, English is not the offical language of the United States go figure that one out. As all know most of our ancestors came here because they didn't like where they were .... Another thing much of the united states has hispanic people because they were there first Texas california all of that was once part of Mexico so they have an interest in our country for other reasons besides monetary ones . Also in NAFTA we benefit most they benefit least. go to Mexico and many other Latin american countries and one will fine pizza hut, dominoes, subway , KFC, block buster Walmart who owns virtuaully all chain stores, pretty much anything we have they have doesnt anyone thing we benefit from that?????? they get the crap end of EVERY THING stop being racist everyone its rediculous you live in a place known for being a melting pot of cultures at one point we all hated irish who were coming here there were tons of anti immigrant stuff about them in the media and news papers look it up, Please people get yourselves educated. just becuase they are illegal doesnt mean they dont pay taxes it means they pay taxes and dont get a return. Also tell me why i can easily get a visa and go wherever i want but they have to spend 3 and 5 months pay just to apply and then get denied because God forbid they want to see their family there is no refund ask many of them they did try the legal way and we wouldnt let them in if you had family or a child in another country wouldnt you do anything possible to see it. we have a black president, the does anyone remember how much people hated black people... every race goes through its phase, how unfair is the treatment black people received we brought them here and then hated on them for being here We do plenty of damage over in Mexico and other countries please learn to look at things from both perspectives.
237 - Renee
it is infringing on my rights as a citizen that i cant be left alone with the man that i love that even though we are married he could still get deported thats not cool
238 - ANAHI ALCANATARA
I THINK THAT EVERY IMMIGRANT WHO COMES TO THIS COUNTRY IS BECAUSE THEY WANT A BETTER LIFE. AND THIS IS NOBODYS COUNTRY BECAUSE EVERY WHITE,AFRICAN,AND MEXICAN PERSON INVATED THIS COUNTRY THEY THEY SHOULD NOT SAY THIS IS THERE COUNTRY BECAUSE ITS NOT.THEY WERE BORN HERE YEAH BUT THE FIRST WHITE PERSON WHO CAME TO THE US WAS FROM EUROPE. THE FIRST AFRICAN CAME FROM AFRICA
THE 1 MECICAN WAS FROM MEXICO SO THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY BUT DIS IS NOBODYS COUNTRY.
239 - Trevor Tryme
First off to "Amanda Reckonwith"
"Dear person that wrote this I will like to say that immigrantes come for a better life. Also get your facts strait illegal immigrants do pay taxis.
Every american came illegal because they inveded indian terretory."
Native Americans never HAD the concept of ownership. Everything was a part of "The Great Spirit"... So would you like to explain how the founders of the early colonies of the U.S. STOLE land from them?
This is a recurring button for people though- "Immigrants do(n't) pay taxes!!"
Ever go to the local target or wal-greens people? It's called SALES TAX (with the exception of 5 states). So even if they find some way to payroll or property taxes, there is still money being withdrawn from them.
Now, the proper question to ask would actually be-"In comparison to the government services they recieve, are immigrants paying their fair share in taxes?" This is more difficult to refute or support.
Secondly, to "Renee"... and every other person who believes this-
Obama is not black. Seriously. He's half African-American, and half Irish-American. Let me put it into perspective for you- if you pour just a little bit of creamer into a cup of coffee, would that coffee still be "black?" No. It wouldnt.
As for my opinion on this entire article? Get the illegals out. Deport them and after every illegal is back in their country of origin go ahead and give hicks a border-hunting/partol season...
(How can you kill a person in this country... if that person doesnt documentarily EXIST in this country?)
Unethical? Totally. But logical? A bit, yeah...
240 - Karina
This article is not true! You should get your facts straight my friend Mexicans do pay taxes all the time. They have social security numbers and even if they didn't aren't we doing you a favor? We do the hard jobs that people like you don't want to. So "friend" if you think we got it all easy and that we are taking your "jobs" why don't you try t live a day in Mexico!!! Im a Mexican-American i will say that ive never been to Mexico but i do have Mexican parents and they always tell how hard it was for them until they migrated to the u.s.
241 - Scottish Girl
Em can you all stop calling them illegals? As if they are aliens or a different species all together. They are people just like you.
Where are the statistics that say illegal immigration is so high anyway? Isn't it near impossible to gather information because they are illegal? The media plays a big role in making countries scared of illegal immigrants with big headlines about illegal immigrants raping women and steal jobs. Before you know the real facts of how many illegal immigrants actually live and prosper in your country maybe you should all stop being so hysterical.
242 - Annonymous debater
Well first of all this is a very complicated issue...but historically immigrants of all kinds have been resented such as the early Europeans like the Irish and Italians who were even considered wretched beings by the New York Times. Asians have also been discriminated once...I believe the number one fear of Americans is a demographical change really...I mean you cannot stop globalization...if Mexicans come here illegally well it's because of the economic opportunities in this country and how slow and tedious it is to become a citizen. The government in Mexico is somewhat corrupt but the new President is cleaning all that out, I mean haven't you been informed lately how many Cartel leaders are getting busted. The corruption is very complicated to fix but there's hope I believe. And to all the ignorants, I'd suggest you inform yourself of the statistics of how much these immigrants contribute to the economy, the take less out really. Oh yea, and to those that say immigrants rape women, that's nonsense please. It's illogical, just think about it, you risk your live crossing the desert and fear constant deportation and you think it is ok to rape a woman and jeopardize your chances of staying here...no.
243 - loca en la cabeza
first off i just wanna say that it is quite funny cuz i am writing a paper on illegal immigrants in this country, and for all u ignorant ass people they add an additional 10 billion dollars to our economy each year. Regardless of how u look at it they pay taxes, when u go to the store and buy food when u get the receipt wut is under the words subtotal. its tax.08.75 hello!
244 - locita
eyooooo
245 - Nicki
What's with all these people suggesting that the least educated of Mexico should suffer because they can't help themselves.
I'm a hobby gardener. I had my well maintained vegetable garden right next to my dad's which was over run with weeds. I didn't touch the garden that wasn't mine but I suffered from a constant influx of weeds scattering seeds etc. onto my garden. To cut a long story short, in order to make less work for myself in the long run I took over the management of my dad's garden.
The point is Mexico should be pressured into a state of better management. I assume it would be better for America in the long run if they played a part.
246 - just another guy
Well, it seems theres allot of angry sentiment about Mexicans and maybe some of it is deserved and some of it is anger that is venting from angry Americans, I can't say I blame you, but really who wants to work the jobs they work. I know I am not gonna do those jobs, I mean who really wants to pick apples and oranges from fruit trees all day, or do some other crap job they do, not me or any of my friends, they do all the crap work we don't want to do. So its really silly to pick on Mexicans don't you think? How many Americans here want to do their jobs work in the fields, work for less than 5 dollars an hour, or do any of the jobs that suck that they do. answer and a drum roll please 99% of Americans would give those jobs the middle finger cause they suck and we know we are better than that. Hey I say if Mexicans want to do the crap jobs let em, thats less crappy work we gotta do, and it helps companies minimize cost. If we really want to get pissed we should get pissed at Arabs and Chinese their people are stealing our high tech jobs left and right for way less than what we are willing to work for them, so result that 300k job a year in tech now is outsourced to the Arab guy who will do it for 40k a year which in their country is allot of money. I know I met a guy making 300k in tech for 10 years but then lost his job to outsourching to India. Also Chinese are stealing our good jobs from us too. Think about it thousands of engineers are being pumped out from India and China every year more than the US and they are coming here and stealing all our high paying jobs and turning them into low paying jobs. Because its simple economics to many people working for low wages will drive the wages down for all the high tech jobs out there, and that's why nursing is still decently paying and not affected yet, because theres not enough nurses there so they are paying more as an incentive to hire them more and less doctors so they can get more lower paying people in and have less doctor expenses. I for one could care less about Mexicans here stealing as people say our jobs, what jobs the orchard jobs picking apples and strawberries all day, nah that's not for me, but more power to you if you want to settle for that crap. I would say to all you guys griping about the crap job taking Mexicans go to college and get educated and get the better jobs, and then you wont even care if they take our supposed jobs. Haha its really a silly thing to gripe about, considering no red blooded Americans would do those crap jobs in the first place. So what should we do put the Mexicans on the firing line and kill em all, or send them back to Mexico, haha they aren't even educated so they can't steal our good jobs and our forced to work crap jobs all their lives, also if they all died who would work in the fields to pick apples or strawberries, not me that's for sure. The government should be more conservative and have more of a grip on money and keep an eye on Mexicans and illegal people here taking social security and fraudulently stealing from the true owners, and also welfare should be conservatively reformed and no so damn liberal, cause they just give it to anyone who ask for it.Liberals just seem to gripe about every damn thing and want it all for free and wont even get educated, I look down on allot of you cause you say you want to kick the Mexicans out well then conservatively reform the system that gives our fucken money away and watch every damn penny that leaves that welfare office, and who it goes too. And do background checks on allot of these scum bags. Stop giving our money away, like Obama is doing to all these companies. When in fact he should be tightening the purse strings and keeping a grip on money cause that will put the companies to the test of survival of the fittest, the weak should be killed and the strong survive if you let weak live it brings down other companies and the dollar. Inflation rises and cost of living gets more expensive to pay for liberal spending and foolishly giving money away. At least Bush was spending money to keep those bastard terrorist away from our soil, now we have someone who lifts sanctions on Cuba and lets all their criminals free from the prison we had over there, good going liberal idiots you picked a real winner. When you get killed from these Cuban terrorist Obama released don't bitch about Obama you put his ass in power now suffer you idiots. McCain all the way. Who cares about Palin she was just a patsy anyway who talked to much. But once again stupid Americans were duped for a communist liberal. Have fun with him and his liberal agenda of trying to save everybody. Hate to break the news to you, but some ppl get rich some get poor and some companies stay and some don't. Survival of the fittest and smartest at its best. Good luck to you liberal idiots.
247 - heijneo
fuck whoever wrote this ish.!
248 - Ana
Im a legal U.S. citizen with illegal parents. I want to say one thing, All you ignorant people think and say all these things because you dont know what its like to have parents that struggle to bring food to there kids and get them the things they need and want. If they had the opportunity in there countries to live a good life, believe me they would not come to this "country of opportunity."
249 - Jennifer
So many times on this blog Americans have proudly stated that they are too good for the jobs that these illegal immigrants do; that illegal immigrants are "stupid" and "need to learn our language". This is incredible when, wonderful as it is, many people who have had the advantage of living here their entire lives cannot speak their native language-- that is, English-- properly. So many people in whatever walk of life lose focus over a false sense of entitlement from the accident of their birth occuring in one country over another, from belonging to one religion over another... anything to make them feel singled out, and not feel so terribly small in the face of everyday life. This is human nature, but nonetheless leads to some terrible things. And in response to all of the comments about illegal immigrants stealing our education and raising crime rates, let's ask ourselves a few questions. Is it not poverty in an of itself that creates desperation and aggression? And is it not an equal "waste" of educational funds when people of this same "entitled" race and nationality don't go to collge, spend their lives in a dead-end job, never think for themselves (supposedly the most basic benefit of a worth-while education) and whittle away their lives in hate?
And I'll just say, any sort of pride relating to where you were born or any sort of genetic make-up you were given upon your conception is ridiculous. I am American many generations back that is really only a matter of myself belong to a certain culture. My nationality only describes a certain social attunment, a tendency towards certain beliefs. We live alone, we die alone, you are the person that you make yourself to be through internal forces. I don't really care if you are Mexican or American, aside from some interesting conversation it may evoke.
250 - mary
OMG!!! I can not beleive the stupidity in your dumb words Nancy!!! just because u consider urself a us citizen doesn't give u the right to tell someone to kill or kill themselves!! what does that make u! a murder?? u cannot judge since you yourself are NOT 100% legal! most of all excluding the Native Americans came from illegal Immigrants that came to this country for many reasons and I don't think your ancestors were the exception! just because L.A. has parents that are not legal does not mean a lot to me! they are people just like u and me, with emotions and just want the oportunity to have something better for their families. Everyone talks about illigals stealing the jobs and using funds and not paying taxes an so much other bull shit,I believe that they don't steal jobs but take the jobs no one else wants for necessity, not because thats what they would want, they don't use anything without having to pay one way or the other. U talk about not paying social security, but they do obviously when who ever pays them if getting payed by checks have to withdrawl for social security, medicaid, state taxes and everything else wich they can not claim for the very reason that they are illigal, so where does the money go?? right!! to the government that uses the money for stupid shit like a bomb or a satellite or sending austronauts to the moon and stupid stuff we don't need! evryone always sterotypes hispanics, asians and indians or who ever looks different to us, but I belive that if we spend as much time judging and putting people down, we should try to all help each other and not feel inferior to others this world would be so much different, but we all know there is no way in hell it will ever happen! If we would stop and think, we all would realize that eversince who knows when in history there are more bad than good(wars of all kinds.. for land for money for religion to see which country has more, diseases, bombs,racist O my god there is soo much that people worry about that it is stupid to worry about people that are not harming anyone, they just want to work and have oportunities to better themselves and who knows maibe to better their own countries in the future!! If instead of talking shit we would put our knowledge and kindness in trying to make this country better so that we can help and not try to kill!!!
251 - M Tracy
Whoa Nancy....not so harsh. Yes if they are illegal then they need to leave or obtain citizenship. but remember that we are all humans and we want what is best for us and those in our family. L.A. i hope you are enjoying your stay in America. Best luck to you and your family. but i would have to say that i think your parents need to gain citezenship ASAP. No hard feeling toward you personally. hang in there but do obey our laws. I am a U.S. born citizen and do have opinions but i keep them humane. All should do the same.
252 - Tina
Jobs are outsourced and given to illegals NOT because we Americans don't want them. I'd give any thing to actually go to a job, being the first one there on time and ready to work and NOT hear that "The Mexicans were here first and therefore get first serve" ESPECIALLY when they are in the back of the line (because they were the last to get there just before work time starts). Corporate America hires ILLEGALS because they know ILLEGALS do it for cheap!! I find it rather hilarious that we are so far in so-called debt but corporate America rakes in billions and billions in profit just by outsourcing and giving ILLEGALS jobs!!
253 - :]
Thank you all, you all just wrote my immigration paper.
One of the things I've seen the most that I don't think is right: 'Illegal immigrants don't pay taxes'
Yes they do! I was illegal at some point but I still filled my taxes.
IF you do not have a SSN, they provide you with a temporal 'Tax ID #' so the time that I worked with out a SSN I still filled taxes and all that money that I was supposed to get back, the government kept it. I don't coplain and cry cause pappa government kept ma money. Shit for all I care, I aint white to go complaining about shit like that.Man up people!
Work, educate yourself be dedicated care about people. Don't be a hating bastard like me. Be humble.
There would not be so much controversy if we just cared for one and other.
Thank you
254 - Bill
I agree with the original commentator - for those bleeding hearts who think that the illegals are saving the consumer money, I have seen this dynamic in action and the savings actually go to the shareholder. The savings is not necessarily reflected at the supermarket shelf. So, again, it is Wall Street that is benefiting from illegal workers and they have the influence in Washington to block any real action.
255 - Bill
It seems there are a lot of pinko Mexican sympathizers responding. Mexico is just a larger version of Cuba. It is the responsibility of the people to change a corrupt and dysfunctional system. Instead, we accept their immigrants who overrun our white picket fence communities like locusts and destroy communities, bringing crime, creating an economic burden. In the end, the salaries paid out by the factories that employ the Mexicans are subject to market forces here in the U.S. so the savings to the individual corporation are not that great, however, the tax payer is stuck picking up the tab for the fringes - many companies offer them health insurance but they would rather send every spare nickel back to Mexico and don't take it, relying instead on the American taxpayer to pick up the tab when they go to a hospital for any reason. Not to mention that, because they do send their money to Mexico, they do not support local businesses as legal immigrants would, creating economically blighted areas.
256 - Bill
Suggestion: re-instate the Guest Worker program as it existed prior to 1965, and which works for other countries such as Japan, allowing a controlled number of people in to fill those jobs which would otherwise remain unfilled. Each person would have to register and would be allowed in for a predetermined period (6 months or 1 year) at the end of which they would either leave or apply for an extension. This would give us the option to review the demand and keep only as many people as we would need. Additionally, they should be required to contribute to Social Security and to purchase health insurance while here, so that they would be protected should anything happen to them while in the U.S. Currently, illegal immigrants are a huge source of revenue for the corrupt, dysfunctional government of Mexico. Yet, the Mexican government does not step in and pay the medical bills when one of their citizens becomes ill in the U.S. Nor do they take back their citizens or make restitution when these citizens injure or maim U.S. Citizens intentionally or unintentionally.
257 - Cindy
You buy that speech in a can? Citizens, shmitizens. I'm a citizen of the world. ¿Dónde están sus cerebros?
258 - american girl*
this is to a girl named nancy #25 i cant belive any one can be soo cold! what is the metter with you! im an american and im not selfish like you ! all americans came to america illigally this wasnt our territory! immigrants are not criminals, just for wnating a better life! makes you a criminal? huuuu?! you look at immigrants like if they were some type of animals!. and yes most immigrants pay texes bitch because when they came to america they had kids who are considered american citizens with a social security ! witch means taxes they arent thieves eather if they get our jobs is because your a fucking lazy ass and dont have a good carrier its not because of immigrants theres no excuse for you to blame them!..they dont even get the education like we do here so they will work in low paying jobs and unless your a lazy ass that would be a problem. eather way in job interviews americans always get picked over other colors !!! ive never seen a white person working in the fields and probably never will and if they dont who will!!! huuu???... immigrant they dont want to take over they just want a normal job not to become lawyers and presidentz and actually i hope that does happen so they can make you!!! hang yourself in shame you heartless bitch! Hopefully the Minutemen will get you nancy ohh yeah you got burned OBAMA BITCHES!!!!!!america is the land of the free right???? obviously not ! hypocrite!!!!if we have a black president anything can happen love eachother i dont think god would appriciate all this!!
259 - Andris
I feel that illegal immigrants need to get in line and come into this country the right way. They have come to our schools and asked for our school system to teach them english. Are you kidding! If I go to mexico will they teach me spanish for free. NOOO! They are a burden to our society and we need to make sure they can offer something to this country before giving them citizenship like most countries do. Most of them come here with their hands out and want us to cater to their language. America is about Freedom but how many illegal immigrants can even fight for our freedom. They don't put their butts on the line, yet they want all the freedoms they feel they deserve. So Crazy!
260 - Phil
If there are any low paying jobs that americans won't do it may because the know they can't support them self or a family working at a low paying job.
An american will go to school an get enough education so they can get
a job that pays them enough to live and support a family without going on welfare.
The illegals don't care about education and don't mind letting the tax payer support their family.
261 - A more cultured you
I just have one comment to all of those who imply that every immigrant who comes here should learn English because this is America....Sorry to break it to you but English is not the United States official language, as a matter of fact we don't have an official language, it is just the de facto language, in other words just the most widely spoken language. And do you know why because even our founding fathers knew that this is a immigrant country open to all languages, cultures and traditions.
262 - ProudLatinGirl
I'm doing a research paper on effects of Latino immigration to America, this article and comments have been really helpful. What I realized is that the only comeback that those who are against illegal immigrants is "They take our jobs, our money,they don't pay taxes and increase the crime rate" ...pathetic if you ask me. && yes we do take the jobs that are available, why? because other don't want to do it. If an American really wanted the job then he would have taken it already, since he is "legal" and his chances of getting the job are higher, but he doesn't have it because he DOESN'T want it. You can't blame an undocumented person for having higher motivations than others.
On the taxes issues and benefits. Illegals do pay taxes, even if they don't have a SSN they get a pin number that they can use. Of course they don't get the money back because they're undocumented! and benefits??? they don't have benefits. Many illegals are too scare to ask for benefits in fear that they might be chased down by INS.
Crime rate? theres gonna be crime wherever you go. If theres no gangs theres gonna be mafias. who says the latinos started it?
263 - passionate, and compassionate American
dear nancy,
May I ask exactly what you did to become such an outstanding and high part of society? You were born here by chance. Pure luck. You did not EARN your citizenship, it came by chance. And the fact that you would tell a child that she should not only be ashamed of her parents, but shoot them, and hang herself, just goes to show the scum people are becoming. Do you think the founders of our country would ever be so foul and low? You obviously do not know an inkling about your country's history. We were started to escape persecution and harsh conditions of all kinds. And if you will remember the Boston Tea Party- we were started on the foundation of NOT paying taxes. I can almost GUARANTEE that you know someone who has broken a law who is an American citizen- so the labeling you gave to this poor girl's parents (of whom you have never met- so i can only be left to assume you are a stereotypical racist) applies to EVERY crook. Not so long ago, it was illegal for African Americans to VOTE- just because something is illegal does not make it JUST. The crime rates alone in Mexico are enough for any good parent to want to escape. Becoming a citizen of America can take YEARS, and includes limiting requirements, tests, and an age limit of 18. Meaning that only ADULTS can apply for citizenship-leaving the children of foreign countries out in the cold. For someone so into the legal system, you seem to ignore all of those facts. Do you know anything at all about the foundation of this great country, or are you just ungrateful and spiteful? Never forget that you might see things differently had you been born somewhere else, you did not do anything to deserve citizenship here, it was just an off chance. One of the great symbols of this country, the Statue of Liberty, is enscribed with these words by Emma Lazarus, "Give me your tired, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door." You have allowed the black & white laws corrupt your sense of compassion, and to cloud your pride in this country.
264 - and
STM, I totally get that you are proud of your Australian heritage and all that jazz, but try a little open-mindedness. I know plenty of Australians who are living in America. And I have not once ever asked them to leave, asked them to speak without their accents, or made up some rude name to call them. You need a lesson in tolerance, we are all living in the same exact world. And last time I checked we are all humans. Instead of being so prejudiced, perhaps you could try a little hospitality... God Bless.
265 - Irene Wagner
But waves are waves, "and." It's a surfer thang, you wouldn't understand.
STM was responding sarcastically to a very ugly American comment that apparently was deleted. STM is always welcoming commenters to visit Australia, as long as they promise to stay off the surf and stick to the turf :)
266 - STM
Hey, "and", please ... the whole thing's just a piss-take aimed at some of the ridiculous comments on here about illegal immigrants going to America and how they're taking jobs, welfare, etc. Try reading between the lines before you comment, or you just end up looking like a tit.
There are plenty of Americans in Australia living happily among us. I know three of them very well: two of them are my friends, and one is my wife's friend.
We've never asked them to lose their accents, or to stay out of the surf.
We even try to make them feel at home by putting on July 4 barbecues for them.
We even have a flag we put up. We do replace the stars in the corner stars and stripes with a Union Jack, though, and offer our commiserations on the anniversary of America's great mistake in breaking away from the British empire, but still ... you get the drift.
267 - STM
Thanks Irene. Love ya work!
268 - aura mannilo
i totally agree with amanda we are the invaders!
269 - jjjjhyrsx
Millions of people come to this country because America is addicted to cheap labor.
Many people would argue that the reason so many illegal immigrants come to this country is because they are poor to begin with and that our system is flawed not letting the poor people in. I think the real reason for the illegal immigration problem is a simple Economics 101 topic â€" Supply and Demand.…
270 - 100% Mexican
im proud being mexican n 100% chingones!!
271 - LEO PATEL`
I was wondering why do we as an american think people come here because they are broke or thinks AMERICA HAS BETTER lifestyle than any other contry. I'm from india AND in India we have 1 family member works and he/she supports whole family WE cant do that here. SO HERE IS A FREE RESEARCH BY ME BACKED UP BY 200000000000000000% GURANTEED WHY FOREIGNERS COME TO THIS COUNTRY THE DAMN $ IS STRONG, IF $1 = RS. 20 I DONT THINK YOU WILL SEE ANY PATEL HERE I'LL BET MY LIFE ON THAT STATEMENT.
272 - Unemployed Legal Citizen
Why in a recession of mass proportions is the government not using this as an opportunity to address the illegal immigration issue? This is the perfect opportunity to create (giveback) jobs, lower health care costs, and combat our over-booked court system. I am sure you know what I mean.
273 - Ldag
I think these immigrants are a disgrace (or our country for that matter). They come to America, get $1800 per month, $800 per child, food stamps, free health. I was born and raised in America, worked my whole life..... and now I get $1100 in Social Secuity. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
274 - I'll say it!
Did it occur to anyone that the Illegal Mexicans/ Immigrants are most heavily populated in the states that they imagine still belong to Mexico? This is why:
They are here, not only to better themselves but also, they are trying to reclaim the states they have deluded themselves into thinking still belong to Mexico.
Ancient history holds little significance for ownership, when more recent history defines such ownership. The Mexicans choose to ignore the fact that Americans fought Mexico for these states, and WON! The trophy is ours - you just can’t seem to comprehend that.
That being said, I couldn’t care less, which states you used to own - you don’t own them anymore.
275 - Zamantha
if you think that others should go to lran, why dont you go. That going to be one less person complaining about illegaol immigrants.