Barack Obama is the man best equipped to lead America going forward in the 21st century.
Very shortly, the Democrats will choose their nominee for the general election. While he has lagged behind for much of the year, Barack Obama is now in real contention to win in Iowa and ride that momentum to victory. In nominating Obama, Democrats have a once in a lifetime change to alter America’s politics.…
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26 - JustOneMan
Obama...He's for
Change...because thats all hard working Americans will have left in their pay checks if he is allowed to rob from the middle class and give to the illegal and undeserving
Hope...because thats all we will have left if he is elected...a light weight rich kid...that has no right being there in the first place...more proof that quotas dont work!
JOM
Arch...great post! The Morons just dont get it!!
27 - Dr Dreadful
a light weight rich kid...that has no right being there in the first place...
Let's see, won his state by about 40 percentage points... so if that doesn't give you the right to a seat in Congress, what does?
Nice to see that the Right is still fully supportive of democracy.
more proof that quotas dont work!
I don't think they have quotas on Capitol Hill. (If they did, there'd be about 30 Black senators.) I rather think it's more proof that JOM's brain doesn't work.
28 - JustOneMan
Dread..please you are making a fool of yourself!
Based upon your logic every congressman is qualified to run for president??
Pretty pathetic....he is there for one reason and one reason ONLY!!!
JOM
29 - Silver Surfer
I support Barack Obama too.
To lose. While it would be good to see, America isn't ready to have a black president - or a female one either for that matter.
As liberal a place as it is, it's also very conservative ... as we know from these threads.
And Ron Paul has two chances of victory ... buckley's and none.
But there's plenty of other candidates. So, what will happen???
30 - Silver Surfer
Johnno Scanlan: "Ah.... so taxes are better spent on military exercises that the majority will never see a return on? Interesting"
Ah well, Jonathan, they've never had universal health care, so they don't know how good it can be.
They've heard the bad stories, but then we've all heard the bad stories about the American health system, so it's even stevens.
I wonder sometimes why some Americans don't realise they are living in a country, not an economy (to borrow a line from our recent election). And a country that is perfectly capable of providing possibly the best universal health care system in the world, given their penchant for "can do" and seeing it through.
That should be the goal. How is that so many Americans think you are a raving loony-left socialist, or worse, a "commie", if you advocate this stuff when in our country, no political party of any persuasion will tinker with it too much lest they commit political suicide. Answer: because it's about people, not money, and once you've had it and realise how good it is, no one's stupid enough to do away with lest they trigger a mass revolt.
Nations are built on community, and right now I reckon America is losing the plot over this stuff and has lost the sense of community that has made it great. Too much navel gazing and not enough action.
Health care is the responsibility of a government, helped by the taxes of its citizens, for all its citizens - and it's a right, not a privilege.
It's not really just a business (if in doubt, check out the hippocratic oath), and should never be solely run as one.
And please note, all detractors, I did say solely.
31 - JustOneMan
"Health care is the responsibility of a government, helped by the taxes of its citizens, for all its citizens - and it's a right, not a privilege" - SAY WHAT?????????
Constitutional Revisionism...where is this spelled out on the Constitution and Bill of Rights of our "COUNTRY"?
As someone who is self employed and pays over $800/month for health insurance...When did I get to vote on the government raising taxes to get into the insurance business?
Geesh...more lunacy fron the left..oh damn I forgot!!! They are for "Hope and Change"
JOM
"Obama - for wishful thinking and luck"
32 - Dr Dreadful
Based upon your logic every congressman is qualified to run for president??
Logic doesn't seem to be something you're all that well-endowed with, JOM.
You seem to be saying that Obama only gets to run because he's black - as if this was some kind of novelty. It's not: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Alan Keyes and Carol Moseley-Brown have all thrown their hats into the ring before.
What's obviously shriveling your goolies to the size of peas is that Obama is the first black person to actually have a realistic chance of winning.
And anyone can run for President - even you, JOM (God forbid). There's no exam and no quota system.
Getting more electoral college votes than anyone else is what qualifies you to be President. If that happens, then obviously millions of Americans reckon he can do the job and you'll just have to defer to their greater wisdom.
Since you appear to think this is all about race, why aren't you upset about Bill Richardson's candidacy? Is he there because of quotas too?
33 - JustOneMan
Dread,
As the great James Brown sang..."You talk a lot but dont say much!"
Bill Richardson's candidacy...lol...please thats even a bigger joke. Heres a guy who pretends to be a latino when he has to. Hmmm born to wealthy parents and sent to a New England prep school at the age of 13...lol
Gee... I see a pattern! Unlike leading Minority Conservatives (Powell, Condi, Thomas)its seems that the Dumbocrats can only support minorities with dominant caucasion genetics who are raised in white upper class society...
JOM
"Obama - for wishful thinking and luck"
34 - Dr Dreadful
You seem to have a problem with politicians who grew up privileged, JOM. Sounds a bit socialistic to me...
35 - JustOneMan
Hmmm...wow ya got me there! Such a quick wit! Amazing!!!
JOM
"Obama - for wishful thinking and luck"
36 - Dr Dreadful
It's certainly quicker than yours, JOM. For your edification, the mindless repetition of right-wing talking points of which you are so fond does not qualify as wit.
I suggested a couple of days ago that if you were in the dark about Obama's policies, you should go to his website or the BBC link I provided, and check them out. You're clearly unwilling to do so in case it might disabuse you of your prejudices.
Come to think of it, you probably can't tell me any more about Giuliani's, Romney's, McCain's or Huckabee's platforms than you can about Obama's...
37 - JustOneMan
Ohhh Noooooo!
Ya got me again!! My my... the depth the liberal loon intellect is just amazing..how can anyone have a chance against such brain power!
JOM
"Obama - for wishful thinking and luck"
38 - STM
Hey, Doc ... I love it how the Seppos call us liberals if we suggest anything that might involve the concept of community. Because we care about OTHER citizens of our countries instead of just ourselves, we're socialists. What a joke. Blokes JOM just don't get it.
He's self-employed and pays, what, $800 plus a month in health care?
I work for a large company, have gap insurance that costs about $200 a month (that's for my whole family), and I get everything else, top-quality, for free (well, kind of, I do pay taxes), including private hospitals or private rooms in public hospitals, doctors of my choice, no waiting lists for surgery, but (Australian) Medicare pays on the spot for everything from a visit to a GP (of my choice) to an MRI.
So my out of pocket expenses: zilch. Does take the worry out of getting sick, it really does. But if I can't pay my health insurance, I still get first-world hospital and medical care for free. So what happens to JOM if his business goes bung? Who'll pay then?
Like I say, they've never had it so they don't know how good it can be (and it was greeted with the same sceptic ism here 30 years ago). Now, no government would tinker with it because they know they'll get punted.
American politics are just so far to the right of anyone else's it's mad. And if I hear one more time that something is "unconstitutional" or "that isn't in the Bill of fu.king Rights" I think I'll vomit. They aren'y your ONLY rights - it even says that in the constitution, so that ends that argument anyway.
Get with the program kiddies. You are the only developed country that doesn't have some form of genuine universal free or near-free health care, and you are a laughing stock not because of it but because of your attitudes to it.
I'm sure it doesn't bother you greatly, but health care, and I'll it say once again, shouldn't be run solely as a business.
And as I pointed out in an earlier thread, when it was introduced here and refined over three decades, it actually created work as the health insurance industry put its thinking caps on and started to come up with all kinds of new services.
39 - Dr Dreadful
Stan, JOM is so blatantly, stubbornly, crassly stupid that I'd say he was (as Moonraven claims she's doing) just adopting an online persona - were it not for the fact that I run across attitudes like his over here all the time.
Arch is the same way, except that he's actually capable of putting together articulate arguments in support of his position.
These people just don't get that it's OK to have opinions that are different from theirs. They can't even be civil about it.
40 - STM
Speaking of that, then maybe Jacob is just an online persona?? One designed to drive people bananas?
I've never encountered anyone with such a penchant for argument for the sake of it without even having a decent understanding of the issues being discussed. It should be a prerequisite that one read another's posts in full before arguing against them. It's not the arguing I'm against, it's the bull-headed I'm right, you're wrong, period attitude. You know, like ...
Spain: great invaders of the mid-east this century. Well, over the past 100 years I'd have pointed to the Brits first, France second, then Germany in league with the Ottomans, the US, then just possibly Spain - but just in Morocco (where it was a protecting power for many decades and is now one of the most peaceful parts of the region). But this century (the past 7 years)? 1500 reconstruction troops. Please.
Miranda: part of the fifth amendment of the constitution rather than a decision of the court to protect 5th amendment rights, and no understanding of the difference.
Articles and amendments. Oops, which one is which. I know, I'll just post the entire Constitution of the US on line.
Why isn't India under attack by al-Qaeda? Oops ...(kashmir is possibly the most bombed al-Qaeda target in the world).
Hong Kong and Singapore have the most freedom ... Lol. Go there, live there, and see how that works.
And so on and so forth ...
41 - JustOneMan
Dread...please your are too funny with your glowing words of tolerance! LOL
At to STM - The Man Down Under - (who really lives in Cleveland in his moms basement). In America NO ONE GETS TURNED AWAY FOR HEALTH CARE...This issues is that we are wasting too much money on Medicaid and Social Security on people who dont deserve it...The less government in my family's life the better!
JOM
"Obama - for wishful thinking and luck
42 - STM
JOM: "The less government in my family's life the better!"
Try not putting in your tax return then, JOM, and see what happens :)
Cleveland? Where the fu.k's that? And what's a mom and why would one be connected to a basement?
43 - STM
JOM: "In America NO ONE GETS TURNED AWAY FOR HEALTH CARE".
LOL. Please, JOM, that's bollocks and you know it. They're not supposed to be, but they are. We've all heard the horror stories mate.
What? You think we live on an island or something??
44 - Dr Dreadful
Cleveland? Where the fu.k's that?
It's near Middlesbrough. Home of the world's second most horrible football team. (All right, third. Manchester United always loom. Plus, you've got to feel sorry for a team that has Gareth Southgate as their coach.)
45 - Colin
I think you'll find that the world's second most horrible football team is Chelsea doctor of dread, physician of the foul... I assume the most horrible you mean to be the Mackems, the Black Cats, who I had previously not particularly disliked (despite their famous doofing of Leeds in a 1970s FA Cup Final - to be a Leeds fan is to be defined by ancient feuds and bitter hatreds) until the arrival on Wearside of that 'orrid little man Roy Keane. My brother used to refer to Boro fans as Casual Ties At War, on account of their hideous dress sense. One day I shall explain with full tediousity why the denizens of Anfield are known as The Granny Stabbers! You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll go home satisfied - Mel Gibson will play Shankley and there will be blood and tears in every gutter.
46 - Dr Dreadful
The Mackems are of course, as you observe, the most shite team in world sports. Whenever they get relegated, we Geordies almost root for them to come back up, just for the fun of watching them set another new record low Premiership points total.
47 - wildnfree
Of all the dems, Obama is the best. In fact I wish the repubs had a fresh faced idealistic contender without all the baggage of years of beltway experience. Obama's plan for universal health care is more like Mitt Romney's plan of forcing insurance companies to cover low income people than Hilary's plan of government micro-managed universal health care. Both are bad.
Look I agree that universal health care, like socialism, sounds great on paper, but the reality is that every hospital in the US would become just like Walter Reed Army hospital... or worse. Do you really hate your fellow citizens that much?
Besides if we go to socialized medicine where would all the Canucks go when they need to see a doctor in a hurry?
Freedoms the Answer! (now what was the question?)
48 - Jet in Columbus
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49 - Greg 'Peace Song' Jones
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CLINTONS.....Just Google...'Clinton Body Count'....then....'Ron Brown's Death'. Also, always keep in mind....the Neo-Cons literally wrote out the plan to invade Iraq, Iran and Syria back in 1992.(Google:PNAC.....Then watch a few of the videos). Each participant signed the plan....and coincidentally ended up on the Bush Administration. Like Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Card, and many others. HILLARY IS PART OF THE PLAN.....which is why she is receiving more campaign contributions from defense contractors (bomb, guns, tank manufacturers, etc.) than any other candidate....even republicans....(remember Hillary was the head of her college Republican Chapter) which is why she voted to invade Iraq.....then voted to invade Iran. BUSH WANTS BILLARY TO WIN SO SHE WILL CARRY OUT THE PLAN. She is the worse choice for America !!!!.....and Edwards is a rich slick (pays $400 per haircut) trying to act like he caters to the poor....but has NEVER done ANYTHING for the poor. Barack Obama is the answer.....for the RE-BIRTH OF AMERICA !!!!