Why I Hate Ann Coulter And You Should, Too - Comments Page 2

Ann Coulter has crossed the line of decency. All humans with a beating heart should be appalled.

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  • 26 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 13, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    hat when writers and pundits on the left make hateful speech, it gets a complete "bye"

    It's because people are so used to it that they have learned to ignore it as nothing out of the ordinary.

    Dave

  • 27 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 13, 2006 at 10:52 pm

    And BTW, ArchCon, there were about a dozen article on BC reaming Ward Churchill during his 15 minutes of fame. You just happened to miss them and seem to be incapable of doing a search.

    Dave

  • 28 - IgnatiusReilly

    Jun 13, 2006 at 10:58 pm

    Since you need it spelled out Jewels, the point is that it's no surprise that a fan of Ann's has trouble with the English language, meaning they ain't too bright.

    "Guess 'sr' doesn't care if he gets *ga-aa ah* (the Howie Dean scream out) Howie Dean's name right. WHO should?"

    How about the person using the name to make a point? If you don't know the difference between John Dean and Howard Dean, it tends to affect one's credibilty in discussing politics. If names don't matter, then why don't you run a Dan Hicks or Taylor Dayne website?

    "Look at that crazy Churchill freak - life goes on for him just fine"

    What? How is life going on just fine for him? The school is trying to revoke his tenure to kick him out of the school and there have even been suggestions to prosecute him for treason due to remarks he has made. And why is it okay to parse what Ann says and not Churchill?

    "They are the lines of focus, and taken out of context of the entire chapter that if read would enlighten readers"

    Since you have obviously read the book, enlighten us.

    Lastly, you have to love the far-sighted conservatives that go all the way back to Clinton when talking about Bin Laden, yet they don't go back to when the US helped bring the guy to power under Reagan. Their memory is "so short, short-sighted and really warped."

  • 29 - sr

    Jun 13, 2006 at 11:04 pm

    #20 Ignatoilet tissue. 10,000 TWEEKS FOR YOU. TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK. John Dean and Howard are the same. TWEEK TWEEK. Are you the best of the liberals. What a little wimp dirt bag.

    Joe dimbucket, hope you have the video of your loved one. For sure I would take great pleasure watching it.

    Jewels and Arch. Excellent TWEEKING OR IS THAT TWEAKING. Just keep on TWEEKING. BRAVO.

    A lib with a gun. Have no fear, Joe dimbucket with his pink water pistol is here. This is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for shooting and dimbucket has all the fun. TWEAK TWEEK TWEAK TWEEK.

  • 30 - JOHN THOMAS GILLICK

    Jun 13, 2006 at 11:39 pm

    Stop talking about A** C******.

    Really. Stop altogether.

    The best way of dealing with the phenomenon is silence and dismissal.

    Don't buy her books, don't read her work, don't review it, don't discuss it, don't discuss her.

    And if you happen to be a professional member of the chattering classes, don’t appear with her on talk shows, don't engage her in debate, dialogue, arguments, faces-offs or whatever. And when the subject of A** C****** comes up - disregard it.

    If asked about her, ignore the question calmly; wait patiently for the next question on another subject. Pressed for an opinion, yield none. Charged with being “afraid to engage” the issue, smile and wait.

    The best public statement on A** C****** is DEAD AIR.

    Make some.

    Then, move on - and leave her ranting to her choir.

    More even than on the cheers of her sad supporters, this sad creature lives for and feeds on the outrage of the easily-baited.

    And no productive purpose is served by feeding its need for that attention.

    Don't be so weak as to succumb to her provocations. You have better uses for your time and energy.

    We all do.

    MOVE ON.

    And when others raise the question of what to do about A** C****** ... say, “nothing.”

    Or ... just say nothing at all.

  • 31 - IgnatiusReilly

    Jun 14, 2006 at 12:11 am

    best of the liberals? No, I agree with them at times and I agree with conservatives at times. It depends on the issue. I'm not some mindless drone like you who needs to be told where to stand on an issue.

    "What a little wimp dirt bag."

    Save the name-calling from the safety of your PC because you wouldn't have the guts to be bumping your gums like that if we were in the same room.

  • 32 - Al Barger

    Jun 14, 2006 at 12:30 am

    I thought this line of your story right curious: "While Coulter has to rely on sensationalism and insults to get press, these four widows have bravely chosen to use their personal losses in a public way"

    Whereas I might rephrase it something more like, "While Coulter has to rely on coming up with something to say that interests people, these four professional widows have milked public sympathy for as much media face time as they possibly could"

    Other than that, the article was mostly just baseless smears. She's not Fred Phelps, and that's a purely arbitrary comparison.

    But all your anger is not an argument. You're just demonstrating Coulter's point there: These women are expecting to climb into the political ring, yet not face criticism like anyone else- or the likes of Candy Kayne are going to be having exquisite fits of hurt, indignant feelings on their behalf.

    You start to make "heartless" (as per Hillary's charge) look like an appealing alternative.

  • 33 - Al Barger

    Jun 14, 2006 at 12:36 am

    Ohmygod, this Gillick guy in #30 is GREAT. He's assigning even the mere written symbols of her name to have some great mythical power not to be repeated. Perhaps he will begin referring to her Cthulhu like as "She Who Must Not Be Named."

  • 34 - Ira

    Jun 14, 2006 at 3:53 am

    What is a Harpie????

  • 35 - Arch Conservative

    Jun 14, 2006 at 6:44 am

    NIK........... do you even know what I'm referring to about Cindy Sheehan and what she did? let me fill you in...........



    There was an incident where Cindy sheehan and her supporters at Camp Casey decided to use the names of dead soldiers on crosses as a demonstartion. Well some of the families of the soldiers whose names were on those crosses went to camp casey and took down the crosses and asked cindy sheehan not to use thier children's names in her protest. Well wouldn't you know ........as soon as those families left........right back up went the crosses with the same names on them.


    NOthing wrong with that at all right Nik?

  • 36 - Gordon Hauptfleisch

    Jun 14, 2006 at 7:16 am

    Al, you should know that the Cthulhu has an updated image, and likes to be called The Dixie Cthulhu. Check out the updated Necronomicon:

    That is not dead which can eternal lie,
    And with strange æons, even death may die,
    And, you know, not ready to, like, make nice.

  • 37 - OrangeEagle

    Jun 14, 2006 at 10:45 am

    The piece would have been more appropriately entitled: "I hate Ann Coulter and you should too - because she's hateful".

    I am always missing my guess with you Liberals. I thought for sure that you would be out defending Ann Coulter. You know, her right to "free speech" and all. Kinda figured we'd all hear about the dangers of "slippery slopes" and how many people have died for our rights, etc...

    Of course, the Nazi connection didn't surprise me though. Everything conservatives do somehow has a relationship with Hitler: "I was in an ice cream store and saw a Conservative eating a banana split -- JUST LIKE HITLER USED TO!!!"

    Ann Coulter is supposedly "jealous" of the attention the Jersey Girls are getting. Makes sense to me. A woman whose schedule is filled daily with TV and radio appearances all across the country and has written several best-selling books, should be jealous of a few irrelevant women who no one knows them by name. But they did in fact appear on "Larry King Live" the other night.

    And besides, what's all the fuss about? I mean, the peace-loving Ward Churchill (exercising his right to free speech of course), said that we got what we deserved on 9/11 and all the victims were just "Little Eichmanns" anyway.

    Another Nazi connection as usual.

  • 38 - John Leinung

    Jun 14, 2006 at 11:37 am

    Regarding the Ward Churchill question -- perhaps in your own rage at Ward Churchill you didn't hear the MANY liberal voices (myself included) CONDEMING Churchill's remarks.

    I would also point out that, if you actually read any of the statements released by the Jersey Girls, they are always rational examinations of actual policy choices or events, with the reasons for their conclusions stated clearly. Agree with them or not, they are designed for intelligent debate. Where is the policy debate in name-calling? Where is the rational argument in character assasination? It's an old rhetorical tactic -- when you can't (or don't want to) argue substance, attack, villify, and ridicule.

    The Widdows were made victims through no choice of their own. They responded by trying to take some action, and expending large amounts of energy, trying to find out exactly how 9-11 happened, why, and how to prevent it from happening again. Coulter has chosen to insult, ridicule, and inflict further pain on people she doesn't agree with. And her reveling in it reminds me of a kid torturing an animal because he thinks it's impressing his friends.

    Coulter's continuing remarks are insulting and hurtful to all of us who lost loved ones on 9-11.

  • 39 - Arch Conservative

    Jun 14, 2006 at 1:01 pm

    Well forgive me if I missed any liberals who condemned Churchill at the time but I still don't think there was anywhere near the level of vitriol and hatefulness directed toward him at the time as has been directed at coulter in the past week.


    I still haven't seen too many people commenting on the Cindy sheehan camp casey cross incident? is this because bc posters are unaware of it? i am interested in hearing what people have to think about what she did as I myself found it very offensive.


    One last thing......the jersey girls made campaign commercials for John Kerry and in doing so exposed thier own partisan bias.. while no one should in any way make light of the fact that thier husbands are dead we should also not hold them up as impartial scared cows that are only interested in debate and whose political views and statements are immune to all critique. their husbands are dead and any decent person would not say things like ann coulter said. but these women chose to place themselves in the limelight..... they chose to publicly state their political views.......the rest of us have the right to respond to them or critisize them if we disagree

  • 40 - RogerMDillon

    Jun 14, 2006 at 1:10 pm

    "the rest of us have the right to respond to them or critisize them if we disagree"

    That's right, but I keep asking and fail to get a response to the question, when did this happen? When was anyone told they couldn't critique the widows? Can anyone provide one link to an example of this because I never saw it?

  • 41 - Grissy

    Jun 14, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    And she calls herself a "compassionate" conservative?

  • 42 - sr

    Jun 14, 2006 at 5:29 pm

    #30 JOHN BOY GILLICK. ANN COULTER'S BOOK NO.1 ON AMAZON.COM, WHERE IT REMAINS. MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BUYING UP THE REMAINING BOOKS SO US DUMB FUCKS DONT GET OUR IGNORANT HANDS ON THEM AN CONTAMINATE OUR TRAILER PARK MINDS. SURE DONT WANT ONE OF DEM ALIEN AB-DUCK-SHINS OR WE ALL BE SEEING ELVIS BUYING TOILET PAPER FROM IGNATOILET TISSUE AND GUN STORE PROTECTED BY HIS MACHO PIT BULL PINKEY.

    TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK TWEEK.

  • 43 - sr

    Jun 14, 2006 at 6:03 pm

    #31 ignatoilet tissue. I wouldn't have the guts to be pumping your gums, or is that guns like that if we were in the same room. Ballroom, living room, bath room, any room. Is that a sincere threat or are you just blowing smoke out your ass? You sir are no Andre the Giant. Maybe a Pee Wee Herman type wearing pink pedal pushers.
    You tell me toilet paper roll.

    ANN COULTER RULES. TWEAK TWEAK. Cant spell and me aint 2 bright.

    sr

  • 44 - candye kane

    Jun 15, 2006 at 2:03 am

    MOGS writes: Oh and BTW, to the author, you should really do some more research on MADD - they're guilty of dishonesty, false statistics, and playing the lobbying game under the guise of moral outrage, when it's really revenge, revenge and a corrupt PAC/lobby culture. Problem is NO ONE will presume to challenge anything they say, because like Maureen Dowd has indicated " a grieving mother has absolute moral authority"

    arch conservative said: these women chose to place themselves in the limelight..... they chose to publicly state their political views.......the rest of us have the right to respond to them or critisize them if we disagree
    and
    aggreegious

    al barger said:
    Whereas I might rephrase it something more like, "While Coulter has to rely on coming up with something to say that interests people,
    Other than that, the article was mostly just baseless smears. She's not Fred Phelps, and that's a purely arbitrary comparison.

    candye kane says:

    I am not interested in hearing ann coulter or anyone else name calling people who became victims through no fault of their own. I dont find that kind of rhetoric interesting or intelligent. If you do al barger, then cool. enjoy those reruns of jerry springer.

    My blog was not meant to be a commentary on MADD or any other organization. I didnt say that MADD or the Nicole Brown foundation or any other charity group is beyond reproach. I was making a point about the formation of groups like this and how they often stem from tragedy. My blog was about making hatefuland EGREGIOUS comments about grieving people. Whether you agree or not with the widows and their political ideas, whether you want to criticize them or not, it is unacceptable to say that they are "happy about their husbands death."

    My article was certainly not "baseless smears" unless you are debating when the actual deaths of adam walsh or denise brown simpson took place. I never compared ann coulter to nazis. That would be name calling. I did point out how different groups have chosen to blame victims for their own deaths and how that is not a new tactic.

    No matter what you believe politically,common decency dictates that we not speak ill of the dead. Ann Coulter should not have to insult the widows to prove her point. Like any kids on the school yard who are caught name calling and being bullies, ann coulter deserves a time-out.

  • 45 - Jewels

    Jun 15, 2006 at 2:18 am

    #33 Al Barger I had to tag this. Brilliant man. Refer to that post for reference and then journey to anything Coulter and the Freak yammers about the same sh_t. (#33) It's funny, somewhat humorous. Yet Sad. Let's not talk about the scary parts. #33 is now named: ScaryHatingCoulterPersonna.

  • 46 - Misty Michelle

    Jun 15, 2006 at 7:47 am

    Ann Coulter is Right.
    She tells it straight, and makes no puns about it.

    I honestly like her ideas and how she uses controversial wording to grab your attention.


  • 47 - John C

    Jun 15, 2006 at 4:50 pm

    *I never compared ann coulter to nazis. That would be name calling.*

    Instead, you announce you HATE the tall, smart, thin blonde girl, and how we ALL SHOULD HATE her too. Forget about just disagreeing with her, or using logic to persuade us. Hate is your answer. Sadly, I just can’t imagine filling my veins with that much hatred, let alone recruiting others to hate as well. What a sad example you are to young women in the West.

  • 48 - Joe Dinnerbucket

    Jun 15, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    This infantile "Ann Coulter vs. Ward Churchill" line of argument is so reminiscent of the kindergarten playground. "She started it!".. No, HE started it!!!"..."No, he's more nasty than I am!!!". Personally, I have no use for Ward Churchill or Ann Coulter. Two peas in a pod, if you ask me. But the responses by Ann Coulter supporters prove what a hateful dirtbag she is (as are those who enjoy her drivel).


    Posting a criticism of Ann's filth-laden rhetoric is like putting a pan of beer in your garden. All the fanatical right-wing slugs crawl out from their holes in the ground. These people thrive on locker-room epitapths and scatalogical terms, mainly because they're not intelligent enough to make a valid argument about anything. Just like their heroes Ann Coulter, Mike Savage, and a million bloggers with a ninth-grade education and a computer. It's nice though, a Dell makes much neater printing than crayons.

    Ann and her supporters are really a bunch of chronically miserable human beings who live to throw insults at a convenient scapegoat for their own inadequacies, in this case it's the Evil Liberals. We're responsible for all the evils of the world, according to these folks. Never mind that their Neocons have had a monopoly on power for the past five years.

    I make no apology for my statement that I'm hanging on to my gun. That wasn't a threat, that was merely a promise that if any right-wing nut decides to take Ann's type of "kill liberals" rhetoric seriously and come after me, he had better become skilled at outrunning a bullet. Nothing unfair or unreasonable about it. Everyone has the right to protect his home and family. Ann once said publicly that we liberals should be physically intimidated so that "they know that they can be killed, also".

    Since she put that threat out there, I have every right in the world to answer it, and you have heard my response. Anyone who approaches me with deadly force will meet with deadly force. I don't think that concept is too difficult for right-wingers to understand.

    I don't think my promise to defend myself is out of line, considering the comments from right-wingers in this forum that border of the homicidal. Sorry if I don't fit into your pre-concieved notions of what a liberal should be. I am a peaceful man, but I will defend my life and liberty, as would most any other American, if threatened. Again, a concept that any right-winger should appreciate.

  • 49 - Joe Dinnerbucket

    Jun 15, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    P.S. to "SR"...I don't own a "pink water pistol". My weapon is a 9 millimeter Taurus Millenium PT 111. And I know how to use it. Not all of us liberals are gun-grabbers.

  • 50 - sr

    Jun 15, 2006 at 7:56 pm

    Mr. Joe#49. Just maybe a little common ground found. Good choice on your home defence weapon. The Taurus 9MM Millenium PT 111 Im familiar with. It's not something and intruder wants to look down the barrel at. Taurus makes a great product. My wife carries the Taurus Gold Edition 38 special with +P fragmented ammo. For me it will always be a Glock 45ACP.

    For sure Dave Nalle will chime in on this subject.

    sr

  • 51 - The Books of Mikey

    Jun 16, 2006 at 12:41 pm

    Sign me up. Your presentation is flawless. I have ignored this heretical, hate mongering witch for too long and have been moved to action.
    Thank you for your fine words of analysis.

  • 52 - beadtot

    Jun 16, 2006 at 11:51 pm

    Well, it's her name that's been the contact reason. Not only are such contacts supposed to put their own lives aside and cooperate with a book-making syndicate to interview such people as 'Colson' and maybe 'Coder' too upon demand, basic necessities such as sleep, food, and air are hypothetical "givens" in the geometry of potboiler-book production.

  • 53 - candye kane

    Jun 20, 2006 at 9:46 pm

    Hey John c,
    If you actually read my blog you would see that nowhere in the blog do I encourage hatred. I encourage boycotting Ms. Coulter and her products. Ms. Coulter used sensational headlines like "the 9/11 widows are enjoying their husbands deaths" to sell her book and many here seem to condone this kind of cruelty. I too, used a sensational headline to get you to read my blog and it worked! I still think my tactics are better than Ann Coulters because she is hardly a victim or a widow. I am not maligning the dead nor am I capitalizing on misery to sell a product. Further, I have every right to hate her and you have every right to love her if you wish.
    PS: I never claimed to be a role model to anyone.

    *I never compared ann coulter to nazis. That would be name calling.*

    Instead, you announce you HATE the tall, smart, thin blonde girl, and how we ALL SHOULD HATE her too. Forget about just disagreeing with her, or using logic to persuade us. Hate is your answer. Sadly, I just can't imagine filling my veins with that much hatred, let alone recruiting others to hate as well. What a sad example you are to young women in the West.

  • 54 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 2:52 am

    Is it just me, or did Ann Coulter or should I say Andrew Coulter, have a sex change? She was a he, look at the face! Nothing wrong with that, but don't take your confusion and hostility out on us. And this woman claims to be a Christian...what a joke! There's the problem right there; when did Republicans and Christianity become one in the same...oh yeah good ol' Ronald. I may have Alzheimer's, but at least I don't have Alzheimer's. It does kinda feel good to have no compassion for your fellow humans..I think I'm going conservative. Ann is a circus sideshow act and her travelling carnival will soon be broken down on the side of the road with the rest of her carnies when we run out of oil or get nuked because of the foreign policies of the current Nazi regime.

  • 55 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 25, 2006 at 3:10 am

    Red, can you clarify which country is being run by a 'current nazi regime'? I assume you mean someplace like Venezuela, because if you mean the US then you're just another mindless baboon throwing crap and while clutching desperately at his shriveled manhood (or baboonhood).

    Dave

  • 56 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 3:55 am

    Dave, you must be a republican, right? If you can't see it then I can't show you and just like our current administration, you can't play by the rules either. Here let me help:
    Personal attacks are not allowed. Please read our comment policy. But, funny that you mention Venezuela, cause' don't they have a bunch of oil down there that we are interested in?...I mean that our current administration is interested in?-the Nazi regime. Joe dinnerbucket is hitting the nails on the head left and right, no pun intended, I have to agree with every statement written. Delve into your soul Dave, and there is an inherent mechanism that let's us decipher between right and wrong, ask it if our leaders are just in all of their actions. You will find the truth. Bush sucks Dick Cheney too.

  • 57 - Al Barger

    Jun 25, 2006 at 5:31 am

    Redstarrising, are you under the mistaken impression that simply your subjective personal feelings of contempt for Brother Nalle or the Bush administration somehow constitute evidence that they're bad? Are you seriously that childishly solipsistic? Look, look how mad I'm getting! What more proof do you need?

  • 58 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 12:06 pm

    If it's proof you need got to www.bushflash.com, brother. The country is so divided that we are no longer The United. I'm not angry either...just awestruck that there are still individuals who support and beleive that our leaders and the conservitive right have the ability to effectively lead our great nation
    by pushing their values and beleifs upon a tired society. I guess that's what you have when a proselytic religion breeds itself among a branch of politics and attempts to convert a nation. Isn't this the general view? Ann Coulter said it!

  • 59 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 25, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    Red, if you read what Al or I have posted on this thread or elsewhere you'll notice that we're not unqualifiedly supportive of the Bush administration, we're just realistic. I won't speak any further for him, but what you seem to be missing overall is that I'm not defending Bush, just rejecting the bullshit which you're spewing. Attack Bush all you like on REAL issues, but call him a Nazi and you lose all credibility, not to mention insulting everyone who fought against the Nazis in WW2. There is no comparison between the evil of the Nazis and the venality and opportunism of Bush. It's like calling a shoplifter a serial killer. They're both criminals, but that doesn't make them the same, but in your logic they are.

    And you are indeed angry or else completely deluded, because you can't tell the difference between defending the truth and defending Bush. You've got a bad case of Bushitis, where everything you see and think is filtered through the 'bush is evil' lense. You need to get away from that mentality before you can discuss any topic like this intelligently.

    Dave

  • 60 - Clavos

    Jun 25, 2006 at 1:16 pm

    ...Joe dinnerbucket...

    Didn't we see that expression on another thread and with a different commentor's name a few days ago?

  • 61 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 5:07 pm

    Dave, while I respect your opinions, I do not respect your stooping to name calling (I think it was something like "mindless baboon flinging poo" or something like that) which you indeed did, in your first response to my original blog. Speaking of credibility or intelligence, didn't you just blow yours to hell with that pathetic childish response. If you would like to give me a topic that we could relate to Bush (yes maybe calling him a Nazi is a little extreme) and our current global status in other nations hearts and minds, then I will be more than happy to debate it with you. I would like to start with the recent law passed that prevents people from protesting a military funeral within 100 YDS, that Bush did indeed endorse. While I do see the protests as a lack of respect for our military and their families, and do not agree with them at all, I also see this as a small step toward extracting freedon of speech from the rights of Americans. With this small ratification, which most likely will go unnoticed among the general public, comes the opportunity for further oppression and unregulated advances by the Republican party. How many governmental checks and balances has the Bush administration revoked within the last term?

  • 62 - Clavos

    Jun 25, 2006 at 5:29 pm

    With this small ratification, which most likely will go unnoticed among the general public, comes the opportunity for further oppression and unregulated advances by the Republican party.

    How so? Demonstrators have been kept back a distance from events they are demonstrating against for some time now in order to prevent confrontations--it's hardly unprecedented, and doesn't impinge on their right to free speech, since they ARE allowed to have their say.

    And how is passage of this one very specific law going to bring the "opportunity for further oppression and unregulated advances by the Republican party."?

  • 63 - Clavos

    Jun 25, 2006 at 5:40 pm

    Dave, I apologize for jumping in there--I only just now saw that #61 was addressed to you.

  • 64 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 5:41 pm

    No Clavos, this particular offense is punishible by a fine of $100,000 as well as a sentence of up to one year in prison...for protesting! It doesn't mean that protesters are merely kept at a distance; it means THEY CANNOT PROTEST WITHOUT BEING ARRESTED!

  • 65 - Clavos

    Jun 25, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    Red, Did you not say in #61 I would like to start with the recent law passed that prevents people from protesting a military funeral within 100 YDS, that Bush did indeed endorse.

    The full text of the law, entitled The Respect For America's Fallen Heroes Act, is available HERE, confirms what you wrote above: i.e. the law only prohibits demonstrations within 300 feet of a military cemetery, or within 150 feet of a roadway leading to a military cemetery, where a funeral is being held.

    It DOES NOT prohibit demonstrations altogether, and thus doesn't take away the demonstrators' right to free speech.

    And, but for the truly reprehensible actions of the evil Fred Phelps and his followers, there wouldn't have been a need for such a law.

  • 66 - MCH

    Jun 25, 2006 at 6:36 pm

    "...personal feelings of contempt for Brother Nalle or the Bush administration somehow constitute evidence..."
    - Al Barger

    What!?? "Brother Nalle"?!

    You gotta be shittin' me...

  • 67 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 25, 2006 at 6:39 pm

    Dave, while I respect your opinions, I do not respect your stooping to name calling (I think it was something like "mindless baboon flinging poo" or something like that) which you indeed did, in your first response to my original blog. Speaking of credibility or intelligence, didn't you just blow yours to hell with that pathetic childish response.

    You need to read more closely. I believe if you review comment #55 you will find that it is my third comment on this thread and was made not in response to the original post, but to the comment equating Bush and the current administration with Nazis. In addition, if you read it closely you will see that I did not specifically call you anything, because my comparison to a baboon was conditional. I left you the option that you might have been talking about something other than the US. In addition, if you say things which are incredibly stupid, you should expect criticism.

    If you would like to give me a topic that we could relate to Bush (yes maybe calling him a Nazi is a little extreme) and our current global status in other nations hearts and minds, then I will be more than happy to debate it with you.

    There is no debate on this topic. Based on your comparison you aren't equipped or prepared to hold a rational, factual discussion of this topic.

    I would like to start with the recent law passed that prevents people from protesting a military funeral within 100 YDS, that Bush did indeed endorse. While I do see the protests as a lack of respect for our military and their families, and do not agree with them at all, I also see this as a small step toward extracting freedon of speech from the rights of Americans. With this small ratification, which most likely will go unnoticed among the general public, comes the opportunity for further oppression and unregulated advances by the Republican party.

    Then you do not understand the law. Perhaps you missed the extensive discussion of it here on BC. The essence of this law is that it is a balancing of privacy rights against free speech rights. The basic conclusion in the law is that you have the right to free speech, but you do not have the right to force someone else to listen to you. It's the classic paradigm that one person's rights end where another's begin. The free speech rights of Fred Phelps and his pals end where the privacy rights of funeral attendees begin.

    How many governmental checks and balances has the Bush administration revoked within the last term?

    Not one that I'm aware of. There have been some shortcuts taken, but nothing as a matter of policy which violates any fundamental rights. Feel free to catalog your concerns, though.

    Dave

  • 68 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 25, 2006 at 6:42 pm

    Dave, I apologize for jumping in there--I only just now saw that #61 was addressed to you.

    Feel free to jump in with both feet whenever you've got something to contribute.

    Dave

  • 69 - Mohjho

    Jun 25, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    It's not so much that some people are vile, it's that the media gives them a platform for their spewage and then calls it news.

  • 70 - redstarrising

    Jun 25, 2006 at 9:38 pm

    Dave, why don't you actually research the cuts in the system that have been made by the administration, or do you not want to be enlightened by this fact; go ahead and shoot down my thoughts on this as well. You righties are soooooooooooooooo closed minded to everything. The power that has brainwashed you and the right you think you have to bear that power has devolved Republicans into a single massive brain-eating zombie juggernaut. You cannot be swayed! Let me speak at your level so you can understand this:
    Take you mouth off of "brother" Al's cock and your ass off of "brother" Clavis's and open your mind...stop thinking with that gang mentality and form some independent thought.

  • 71 - MCH

    Jun 25, 2006 at 10:05 pm

    "Dave, I apologize for jumping in there--I only just now saw that #61 was addressed to you."

    Clavos, I can't believe you're apologizing to someone who wouldn't make a pimple on your ass...

  • 72 - Dave Nalle

    Jun 25, 2006 at 10:11 pm

    Dave, why don't you actually research the cuts in the system that have been made by the administration,

    Wait, wait. Am I hearing things right? The Bush administration has made cuts in something? But, but, but...I thought they were the tax, spend and cut taxes administration. How can they have made cuts in things?

    And yes, I'm fully aware of the minor budget cuts the Bush administration has made. It's a start, but hardly enough. Believe me, if I had my way 80% of the programs you hold near and dear would be gone or cut to the bone.

    or do you not want to be enlightened by this fact; go ahead and shoot down my thoughts on this as well. You righties are soooooooooooooooo closed minded to everything. The power that has brainwashed you and the right you think you have to bear that power has devolved Republicans into a single massive brain-eating zombie juggernaut. You cannot be swayed! Let me speak at your level so you can understand this:
    Take you mouth off of "brother" Al's cock and your ass off of "brother" Clavis's and open your mind...stop thinking with that gang mentality and form some independent thought.


    Oh yeah, that swayed the hell out of me. Even more than some sort of intelligent argument would have, because like all Republicans I respond best to namecalling and stereotyping.

    Dave

  • 73 - Noreen Baldwin

    Jun 25, 2006 at 10:43 pm

    AMEN!!!!!! I couldn't agree more. I actually thought of John Walsh and Candi Lightner too, when the whole drama about her book began, as well as Paul Michael Glaser, whose wife and son died of AIDS after a tainted transfusion (he is the spokesperson, or was, for the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation)

    I believe Ms. Coulter's real problem is with the fact that the "Jersey Girls" inquiry brought attention and criticism to a goverment machine that Ms. Coulter seems to eagerly support. To suggest, at all, that anyone who lost a loved one on 9/11 would seek fame or wealth intentionally through their unfortunate involvement with the tragedy is just ridiculous. As far as I can tell, the only people who've managed to get rich from 9/11 are the government contractors. Is there a chapter on Halliburton in her book too?


  • 74 - Al Barger

    Jun 25, 2006 at 10:56 pm

    Redstarrising- You may not realize it, but you're the best friend President Bush has got. I've never voted for ANYONE named Bush, and I'd like to slap the taste out of his mouth on a fairly regular basis.

    But when you hatas jump up absolutely foaming at the mouth like you are doing here HITLER, HITLER!!!, W starts looking pretty good. If it's going to be between a mediocrity like Bush or whatever kind of vicious hater folks like you would come up with instead, it's not even a contest.

    You and MCH apparently can't even stand the idea of people being friendly with each other. You're pissy over even a mild display of fellowship addressing fellow Blogcritics in a familial manner. Hey, I try to be nice to everyone. I'm even nice to Brother Marcus, and he's well known as a no-good beady eyed pinko Canuck- and an abuser of helpless farm animals as well.

    But you seem to be so set on hatefulness that you can't even imagine just simple collegiality without it being gay sex- and you definitely give that an unmistakably hateful spin too. Some "liberal."

    Finally, you're definitely going to look dumb attacking Brother Nalle for supposed lack of research. Among all Blogcritics, he has earned probably THE #1 reputation for knowing his facts. That's not because he's necessarily so extra intelligent, but because he's so carefully meticulous about research and citing sources.

    Questions come up in a discussion thread like this, and he'll stop, look stuff up, and come back with the sources. I've seen him do this literally hundreds of times. Disagree with his interpretations and opinions all day, but if you want to question his knowledge of the facts of a situation, you'd better come correct.

  • 75 - Al Barger

    Jun 25, 2006 at 11:07 pm

    Noreen, you seem nice enough, but you're a half dozen kinds of wrong there in #73. "As far as I can tell, the only people who've managed to get rich from 9/11 are the government contractors." How many millions of dollars in payouts do you have to get to have gotten rich? I haven't followed the personal finances of the NJ widows, but I'd bet they're every one millionares now.

    This is also a curious quote: "To suggest, at all, that anyone who lost a loved one on 9/11 would seek fame or wealth intentionally through their unfortunate involvement with the tragedy is just ridiculous." Why would that be ridiculous? Just because something bad happens to someone doesn't make them a good person. Victims can be just as venal as anyone else. Heck, their harships just give them more excuses to indulge in common human venality.

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