Where’s PETA when you need them?

I was reading through my local paper this morning, The Virginian-Pilot, and I came across the Weekly Maureen Dowd rant in the Op-Ed section. Maureen Dowd is a vicious liberal writer for the New York Times, in case you didn’t know. Luckily I was in the bathroom at the time and as usual, Ms. Dowd’s column came in handy!

She actually slammed johnFONDAkerry today, which is a switch for Ms. Dowd, from her normal rants against the president. She even had nice things to say about Uncle Ronnie, I don’t think that’s ever happened!

Ms. Dowd doesn’t seem to like the pictures of kerry in his, as she puts it, borrowed camouflage. I don’t like it either, and it seems to be for the same reasons.

I’ve said before, I just don’t like the guy. Now he’s trying to act like he’s just one of THE GUYS. The problem is, regular guys that hunt, usually have their own camouflage. They usually have their own shotgun too. Now where do you suppose jFk got that shotgun? Obviously, borrowed from another “regular guy” like himself.

Lastly, I checked the PETA site (I’m not linking to it because I think they’re insane) and there’s not one word about jFk shooting those poor defenseless geese (or is that goose). This is the organization that says that animals are not there for our entertainment. (Makes me wonder, why do I have dogs? I always thought it was so they could entertain me.) If the killing of geese, or goose as the case may be, was not staged for the entertainment of the voting public, then what was it for?

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  • 1 - Claire

    Oct 26, 2004 at 9:52 am

    I don't remember the last time I agreed with Maureen Dowd (I'm sure I must have once or twice, but...) What a refreshing change.

    Well, as is no secret, I don't like Mr. Kerry either, or his camo's, or his pictures, or his politics.

    His recent hunt in Ohio was heinously political (aside from just being heinous, which is a hunting blog I will do later)

    Interesting perspective on Animal Crackers here:

    on the hunt

    which says, in part:

    Of all John Kerry's flip-flops, Thursday's staged hunting trip in Ohio was certainly one of the biggest FLOPS. The effort to portray him as a "guy's guy" showed instead that John Kerry is still an elitist.

    Most of us hunters struggle for access to quality hunting grounds. But because of his status as a senator and presidential pretender, Kerry easily found premium land on which to hunt -- in a state where he knows few people, never mind hunters.

    John Kerry did no homework for his hunting trip -- no landowner contacts, no scouting trips, no dog training. He probably did not even buy his own camouflage jacket.

    He probably could not recite the laws governing his hunt -- which means he did not read his Ohio Hunting Guide or the federal migratory bird rules.

    John Kerry is a poster boy for the Humane Society of the United States and PETA - groups that object to hunters just walking out into the fields and shooting things.

    What John Kerry did is not hunting -- it was killing.



    Now, Andy, that Peta thing...about them being crazy...gosh, I'm gonna be busy...I don't think I've done an animal rights blog since the Survivor: Africa when the contestants shot the cows with arrows to drink their blood :)

    Nice piece, I enjoyed it (except for that Peta thang)

    Claire

  • 2 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 9:54 am

    Claire..I did not say PETA was crazy...I said they were insane...not sure what the difference is, but there must be one!

  • 3 - Matt

    Oct 26, 2004 at 10:02 am

    I wonder if it was more political, or egregiously staged, than, say, the Mission Accomplished banner in May '03? 900 additional troops won't be killed as a result of Kerry's political staging of a hunt.

  • 4 - Claire

    Oct 26, 2004 at 10:08 am

    Andy...hee hee...I think they essentially the same...but no offense taken, just inspired a good blog on animal rights...:)

    Matt...Yes, it was more agregious. One was to foster unity and morale in a time of military conflict. One was to heinously kill geese. That didn't foster anything but dead geese.

    Claire :)

  • 5 - Shark

    Oct 26, 2004 at 10:29 am

    EXTREME IRONY WARNING:

    This thread contains Right Wingers moaning the loss of a "heinously" killed goose.

    This thread justifies an oportunistic photo-shoot by a President (in a 'borrowed' jet aircraft) who prematurely strutted about his "mission accomplished" after taking the nation into an unneccesary WAR

    -- while condemning a Presidential candidate for going on a goose hunting photo-shoot in "borrowed camoflage".

    We're WAY through the looking-glass, kids.



  • 6 - Rodney Welch

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:27 am

    Andy writes:

    "Luckily I was in the bathroom at the time and as usual, Ms. Dowd’s column came in handy!"

    You jacked off over her picture? Damn, Andy -- how long has this been going on?

  • 7 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37 am

    You know Rodney...she's actually not a bad looking woman..if she'd just shut her mouth or maybe put something in it...

  • 8 - Yensid Tlaw

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:43 am

    I agree with what Shark said... get a life people. Just get a life...

  • 9 - bhw

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:49 am

    I love it when conservatives think the First Amendment applies only to people who share their views. I also love it when someone picks up a newspaper and *chooses* to read a column by someone he obviously doesn't like, and then continues to attack that writer, even though she and he share the same opinion on the subject of the article.

    I also love it when conservatives call Maureen Dowd a "viscious liberal writer," but then defend Ann Coulter as a paragon of truth.

    On another note, I think PETA has its own presidential candidate.

  • 10 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:50 am

    I think you folks missed the entire point of this post...I could give a shit if jFk wants to go goose hunting...I thought it was pretty funny that one of the most left wing editorialists in the country thinks he's an idiot for doing it too!

    You have to admit that the only reason that Kerry went on this little outting is because he thinks this will help him with hunters! It won't...and now he's pissed off the PETA brigade as well!

  • 11 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 11:54 am

    bhw - I never called Ann Coulter a "paragon of truth", I did say I liked her because she made me laugh.

    No, I don't like Maureen Dowd, but I do read her column every time it shows up in my local paper.

    Would that PETA candidate be a write in? Actually, I think he is the only candidate that can get away with that slogan "EAT ME!"

  • 12 - Claire

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:05 pm

    As always :) It depends on which end of the looking glass one is looking through....LOL...

    Claire

  • 13 - bhw

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:10 pm

    Actually, Andy, you said:

    "I read 'Slander' and she sure does seem to back up what she says with a lot of references. I'd say close to a 4th of the book is her notes, backing up what she says."

    That seems to be commenting on her truthfulness, no?

  • 14 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:15 pm

    I also said...a little further down the thread that she made me laugh and I thought she was a little crazy!

  • 15 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:24 pm

    bhw - I took the political compass test on your site and it tells me that I'm just a little right of center.

    I don't consider myself a conservative, but I won't harp about labels. The only label that's been put on me since I've been here that I consider accurate is ASSHOLE. And I actually kinda like that one!

    If I never read things written by the left I'd miss out on all the good stuff I get to read on BlogCritics!

  • 16 - Mark Saleski

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:28 pm

    she sure does seem to back up what she says with a lot of references

    yes, and a bunch of 'em are wrong

  • 17 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:44 pm

    I guess the operative word there was "seem"...I read the piece Mark, very informative, but like I said...she makes me laugh! And she is out there! But hey, that's why I read stuff by Dowd too...get's the seesaw really rocking!

  • 18 - Hal Pawluk

    Oct 26, 2004 at 12:48 pm

    Good grief, where have logic and common sense gone?

    Credibility because "she sure does seem to back up what she says with a lot of references?" It doesn't matter what those references say, but there sure are a lot of them?

    And there aren't even all that many references - she pads the list:

    To take one example, ... she provides a list of 10 quotes alternating between positive coverage and negative coverage...

    To the casual reader, the list must seem fairly damning. Yet ... Rather than the 10 different articles the casual reader would assume Coulter is quoting ... the list comes down to four articles -- thin evidence at best for the broad suggestion ...
    And as Mark said, many of the references are wrong.

  • 19 - Mac Diva

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:04 pm

    Ann Coulter made up the footnotes in Slander. Shows she knows her audience well -- people so stupid it would never cross their minds to read the sources, check for them and discover they don't exist.

    I previously predicted that it would not be long before Andy Marsh posted material referring to using the toilet. I was right. (People who study such things say not very bright folks spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about bodily functions, so it was an easy guess.)

  • 20 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:11 pm

    and that would be why you came up with the idea first! Diva!

  • 21 - bhw

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:13 pm

    Andy, so far, your comments and posts on Blogcritics put you firmly in the conservative camp, without a doubt.

    BTW, back to your original post about Dowd's column, why is it bad when liberals don't criticize Kerry and also bad when they do? It seems to me Dowd is showing some honesty here by not blindly defending every move Kerry makes. Why is that a bad thing? It would be nice to see the same from conservative editorialists regarding Bush, but I'm not holding my breath.

    And why is the goose hunting stint, which is obviously a campaign tactic, such a bad thing? Everyone who runs for office puts him or herself in shoes they don't normally wear in order to appeal to certain groups of voters. Is it really that shocking or awful?

    I wish that politicians didn't have to play up to American voters that way, but sadly, they do. For some reason, Americans seem to want someone who appears to be like them as president, as opposed to just picking the person who is the most able to do the job, regardless of what they look like or how they walk or talk or what their hobbies are.

  • 22 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:30 pm

    bhw - I guess that's a fair assessment of where I've been on the issues I've commented on...I guess we just haven't hit those issues that steer my political compass back to the middle...yet.

    I'd like to add, that you are one of the MOST level headed people I've found on here...other than scolding me for excessive punctuation, you've been pretty easy to talk to...and actually, I don't think you've called me a name yet...it is still early. Thank you

  • 23 - Mac Diva

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:37 pm

    With more than a thousand blog entries, I've never written about bodily functions. You can't post a half-dozen without resorting to bowel movements, Marsh. Now, get thee to blogging impotence. Oops! You don't have a blog.

  • 24 - andy marsh

    Oct 26, 2004 at 1:43 pm

    post #10 from yesterday on the how low can you go piece...

    From mac diva: To continue perpetuating the fraud that Andy Marsh has initiated is just going to result in more and more idiocy such as this 'entry.' One about his bowel movement is doubtlessly on its way.

    For some reason, I get your panties in a bunch! and it really bothers you...and you know what??? I LIKE IT!!!

  • 25 - RJ

    Oct 26, 2004 at 6:43 pm

    She doesn't like any "white boys" who disagree with her (even the Lefty Shark). Don't take it personal...just GET personal! ;)

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