As violence escalates, the crisis in Xianjiang is becoming too large for the Chinese government to continue to ignore or cover up.
In the west we don't always have easy access to news coming out of China where the media is kept on a tight leash and forced to make concessions in what they cover in order to get any access at all. Despite this partial news blackout, events in trouble Xianjiang Province are escalating to the point where the Chinese government cannot keep a lid on what is turning into another grim chapter in their long history of human rights abuses.…


In the west we don't always have easy access to news coming out of China where the media is kept on a tight leash and forced to make concessions in what they cover in order to get any access at all. Despite this partial news blackout, events in trouble Xianjiang Province are escalating to the point where the Chinese government cannot keep a lid on what is turning into another grim chapter in their long history of human rights abuses.…






Article comments
76 - Irene Wagner
Dave Nalle's article is about Muslim Uighers, I know. Lest anyone get the idea I don't care about Muslims and have co-opted this thread to ask you to appeal to the Chinese government on behalf of Gao Zisheng, a member of my own faith, please consider the fact that Gao Zhisheng is a human rights lawyer fighting for the human rights for ALL Chinese, including the Falun Gong whose practitioners are being subjected to ORGAN HARVESTING THROUGH VIVISECTION!!!
Statement of DAVID KILGOUR, ESQ., FORMER MEMBER OF THE CANADIAN HOUSE OF COMMONS, CO-AUTHOR OF THE ''REPORT INTO ALLEGATIONS OF ORGAN HARVESTING OF FALUN GONG PRACTITIONERS IN CHINA'' to Congress:
"I must also give credit to AI for putting out an emergency bulletin recently about the arrest of China's most courageous lawyer, Gao Zhisheng, who shares a number of qualities with Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi. Indeed, it was Gao who invited David Matas and myself to investigate the matter of organ seizure of Falun Gong prisoners, although we were not granted visas by China's Government. It is my intention to nominate Gao for the Nobel Peace Prize, and I would hope that the Members of Congress will do that as well."
77 - Irene Wagner
Pete, here are some videos of Gao Zisheng speaking in Chinese (with English subtitles for the benefit of most of the rest of us here.)
Human Rights Lawyer Gao Zheshing's last interview before his arrest. He was considered a hero of the Communist party before he started speaking out against things the Chinese government preferred him to keep quiet about. Then the torture started. Maybe you're a Gao Zeshing kind of person, Pete.
Please help.
Here's information on how all of us can try to contact people of influence in China on Gao Zeshing's behalf.
78 - Irene Wagner
And Ruvy, I will finally speak to you, too.
For the love of G-D, Ruvy, hold your peace for once.
79 - Clavos
I hope Peter will help you, Irene, but I doubt it.
80 - Peter
To Irene: I mean the best that we all should do. The good thing that I have notice is that both Americans and Chinese have the capacity to improve their shortfalls given time. I truly wish that we can all learn from each other instead of rejecting each other.
As for Gao Zhisheng, my heart goes to his family for his disappearance. But I do not like how any information is twisted when presented to me. I do not trust government media sources as well as the "free" corporate media sources. There are just too many hidden factors that manipulates the information before we, the common people, get to know them. I will do best to form my own thinking on this issue. One thing that I do know is that no family can be denied to know where their family members are being kept, be it Gao, secret operatives, or whoever else.
I don't mind the informal name Irene and thank you too
81 - Irene Wagner
Thanks Clavos. I am not the one needing help. I am embarrassingly safe and happy. Peter may or may not respond, but he is also not the only one reading. Gao Zisheng was tortured for doing good, Clavos. This article seemed like a good place to talk about it.
82 - Irene Wagner
Thank you Pete! Thanks for thinking it over.
83 - Cindy
Irene,
I have become a very big fan of social whatchamajiggy sites. I have recently joined facebook. I like twitter still, it has it's good points. In fact each one has its own thing it is particularly good for, to me. Twitter is the best for following protests and actions as they happen. Twitter has anarchists on it, but mostly they are ancaps. Facebook has tons of anarchists from all over the world, and I have yet to meet one who is an anarcho-capitalist. I wish I could learn about 5 languages instantly.
Anyhow, this is a long roundabout way to say 1) we signed the petition, 2) I twittered it and three people retweeted it. and 3) facebook lets a person start a group. For example one could start a group about this particular person, Gao Zisheng. One then can then send out the info to people and suggest they join the group and sign the petition.
It is just a suggestion you might like. I plan on starting a group that buys livestock for African families who are in need of assistance.
My URL is set to my facebook account if you are not on there and would like to be. A lot of people would join such a group.
(P.S. No explanation is necessary if you decline. It is just information you may wish to use.) xxoo
84 - Ruvy
And Ruvy, I will finally speak to you, too.
For the love of G-D, Ruvy, hold your peace for once.
NO.
"For Zion's sake, I shall not be silent and for Jerusalem's sake I will not be still, until her righteousness emanates as a bright light, and her salvation blazes as a torch" [Yeshaiah/Isaiah 62:1]
85 - Ruvy
But, Irene, I 'll not carry forth arguments over persecution of Christians from another thread to this one; there is no need. Go in peace and plead the case of your co-religionist.
86 - Dave Nalle
Gao Zisheng's religious beliefs are really entirely beside the point. In his case what matters is that his advocacy for human rights was enough to get him tortured and disappeared like thousands before him who tried to do good in the face of institutionalized evil.
It is much easier to point out ethnic/sectarian violence as I did in my article than to make people understand that the Chinese do this sort of thing to their own people as well.
Ethnicity, education and past service to the state clearly will not protect you when your activism comes to be perceived as a threat to the established order. In fact, I would guess that the reaction is in many ways more harsh to those who are perceived as traitors like Gao Zisheng than it is for those who are perceived as outsiders like the Uighurs.
Dave
87 - Irene Wagner
Ruvy in 84. Yeah, ya gotta shout when the Spirit says, "Shout." Thanks for not ripping on me for talking about Gao. I wish peace for you, too.
Cindy - Thanks for caring about this. Sometimes a person can feel like a Lost Causes Clearinghouse. But its all about the starfish. :*) Bye for now, Cindy.
88 - Cindy
China tries to block Uighur film in Australia
89 - Clavos
Cindy,
You should stop using tinyurl to format your links. That site is notorious for uploading spyware to computers that access it, for which reason millions of savvy users refuse to open their links.
I would love to watch that film, but can't.
90 - Bliffle
Clavos,
Switch to linux.
91 - Cindy
Here is the link Clav.
92 - Clavos
Thanks, Cindy.
93 - Clavos
Bliffle,
It's not my browser, it's my firewall (ZoneAlarm), and I can ignore it and proceed, but won't.
Tinyurl needs to quit polluting users' hard drives with crap.
94 - Irene Wagner
CINDY - as to your link, I'm coming up with a name, but you'll know me when you see me. It won't be until later on this summer, though. Thanks again!
95 - Bliffle
Clavos,
You need a different OS, not just a browser or firewall.
Windows is poisoned with Active-X, which has big holes through which one can drive truckloads of viruses and worms.
Also, Adobe "Flash" has holes: some windeows security functions were delegated to Flash.
96 - Bliffle
Microsoft migrated the ActiveX code down into the OS so no one who uses windows is safe from ActiveX security leaks.
ZDnet article
ZDnet comment A
ZDnet comment B
97 - Cindy
Irene,
:-)
you'll know me when you see me
I am sure I will...