Understanding the Middle Class - Comments Page 4

Unlike other politicians, Palin understands that the middle class can take care of themselves.

Through all the debates, speeches, and interviews, I had not heard one candidate speak about the middle class in terms that make sense to me until Palin debated against Biden last Thursday.…
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  • 126 - Baronius

    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Cindy, there's an impression that the left has nothing to say other than Peace, Love, and Understanding. Videos like that scare the undecideds.

    As for the question of what truly matters, I'd bet against Clavos. You'll find a lot of agreement.

  • 127 - Cindy D

    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    In fact I spent most of my life being a hippy love child.

    So, when exactly did you morph into a condescending ass who calls adult women "dear"?

  • 128 - Jordan Richardson

    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Cindy, there's an impression that the left has nothing to say other than Peace, Love, and Understanding.

    Yeah, that peace, love, understanding....fucking scary shit. Give me corporate greed, war-mongering, and baseless moral posturing instead!

  • 129 - Dr Dreadful

    Oct 10, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Pablo,

    No I am not too young to remember the 60's dear.

    Isn't the paradigm that the very people who are old enough to remember the 60s are the ones who don't remember them...?

    ;-)

  • 130 - Clavos

    Oct 10, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    I heard that if you can remember the sixties you weren't rally a part of them...

  • 131 - Clavos

    Oct 10, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Baronius,

    Am I to infer that you don't consider family important?

  • 132 - Dr Dreadful

    Oct 10, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    I do remember a sixty, but my memories involve sunlit beaches, toy yachts and bacon rather than large crowds on farms and interesting chemical derivatives.

  • 133 - Baronius

    Oct 10, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Jordan, Jordan, Jordan...I'm not saying that peace, love, and understanding are bad things. That'd be idiotic. I'm saying that the left often fails to present anything more than those as a plan. They do themselves a disservice, assuming they do have more substance.

    Consider the problems in Jerusalem. In one sense, it's true that the only solution will come through peace, love, and understanding. But in another sense, the policies matter. Obama has taken three positions: 1, for a united Jerusalem; 2, against a united Jerusalem; 3, a declaration that his position hasn't changed. I want a better answer than that.

    Likewise, I want a better answer from McCain about the credit crisis than "Wall Street greed". But I know that McCain has been a Senator long enough to know that it's complicated. We've had simple presidents before, but Obama is especially dangerous because he's shallow but he thinks he's deep. Those are the ones that do real damage.

  • 134 - Baronius

    Oct 10, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Clavos, you made me think. An unexpected, unwelcome task for a Friday afternoon.

    I think that 98% of the world's non-Buddhists would agree that happiness is found in personal enjoyment and fulfilling one's potential, and aiding others in finding enjoyment and fulfilling their potential. We each may add caveats to that statement, or insert phrases like "as children of God" or "through capital gains tax cuts", but those three things dominate most people's view of happiness: to improve oneself, to enjoy oneself, and to leave the world better.

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