Two More Reasons to Crush Iran With Sanctions - Comments Page 3

Well, if we did not already have enough reasons to declare Iran to be a member of the "axis of evil" we now have two more:

Well, if we did not already have enough reasons to declare Iran to be a member of the "axis of evil" we now have two more:…
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  • 76 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 01, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    Cyrus "the Great,"

    "By the way Ruvy, are you sure a few of those Shahab-3, Shahab-3s or long range X-55 cruise missiles are not tipped with nuclear war heads?"

    I didn't suddenly discover the Iranian missile threat to my country from BoP's article. Try reading this article on the Iranian Missile threat that I wrote last year here at Blog Critics Magazine.

    I'm fully aware of the Iranian satellite in orbit. I fully expect an Iranian attack on this nation to be equal or worse than HizbAllah's "itty bitty rocket assault" last July that crippled the northern third of this country. I expect this attack to come whether the United States or Israel attempts to defang the nuclear claws that Iran insists on growing. The reasons are explained in this article on Ahmadinejad's messianic politics, which I also authored here at Blog Critics Magazine. This item came into my e-mail box from WorldNet Daily on the possible appearance of the Mahdi in the spring.

    I can see Tel Aviv on a clear day from the trampiada at the entrance to town. I fully expect to see fires of war arising from there in the not too distant future. I do not recommend destruction of Teheran out of maniacal hatred. But I can see only a future of war and death coming from the east...

  • 77 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 01, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    Ruvy,
    Iran has equipped the Hizbollah with Z2 missiles which carry about 1360 Ibs war head and Tel Aviv in range. But, they did not give permission to fire them despite Hizbollah insisting on using them. This should show you and others of Iran's responsibitily. Iran's armed forces are positioned defensively. Nuclear weapon will be deterrant and the trigger of program was use of chemical weapon by Iraq in 1980s war.

  • 78 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 01, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    Ruvy,
    As far as I know, most Iranians beleive Ahmadinejad is delusional. He has a big mouth which works against Iranian's national interest. But, plicy of sanctions and military threat only consolidate his position. His regime thrive with foreign threat especially from big powers. But, Iran's power system does not let him to do whatever he wants. Iran has the ability to hit Israel hard right now. But, basic concept in Iran's regime is that we are the chosen nation for return of Mahdi. So, country should survive and progress until then. This is the reason Iran's technological progress is 2nd to Israel in the region. Iran will not start any war for above reason. But, will respond harshly to any invasion.

  • 79 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 02, 2007 at 9:09 am

    "....most Iranians believe Ahmadinejad is delusional. He has a big mouth which works against Iranian's national interest."

    Cyrus "the great",

    It is easy to maintain a belief in a messiah or redeemer if his coming is in the distant future, at an unknown and/or unspecified date.

    The author of this article, Bird of Paradise, when not wearing his fathered nom de plume, is a Christian pastor. He honestly believes in the eventual return of Jesus as his messiah. But if someone in his congregation told him he had dreamt of seeing Jesus walking down Mauna Loa and added that in the dream he had seen a newspaper on the stands dated 5 February 2007, that probably would be a bit too much for even him.

    There is a very strong tradition that says that all the work of the Jewish messiah will be done by the year 5790 on the rabbinic calendar. Five hundred years ago, this was an easy thing to maintain. But the rabbinic year 5790 is just 23 years away. So now we can see the believers on the one side, and those who mumble "I believe in full faith in the coming of the messiah" without really meaning it on the other, and in addition, we see the secular Jews who laugh altogether at all this as just so much stupid nonsense.

    I suspect that the Shia in Iran break down in much the same way. After all, Ahmadinejad is talking about not 23 years in the future, but a few months. I'm sure many of the high placed mullahs there laugh in their sleeves at Ahmadinejad.

    I work under the assumption that Ahmadinejad is not just a big-mouthed clown but someone who honestly believes in what he is saying, and in addition, has solid reason to have such beliefs.

    This is because I too, believe in the imminent coming of the messiah, and believe that the Almighty is working things so that destiny and the world's attention will more and more focus on Jerusalem. But such beliefs require a recognition that the universe as we know it and as we are used to it may change in radical ways that most of us are unprepared for, much less willing to understand. Hence, your line quoted above.

    You cannot afford to rule out the possibility that Ahmadinejad may be onto something real, even if what he forecasts is not necessarily the messianic redemption the rest of us who do believe expect...

  • 80 - troll

    Jan 02, 2007 at 9:24 am

    it's true - we're not prepared for the subjugation of the earth by the grays (which anyone with properly trained reason must see is imminent)

    evidence is everywhere

  • 81 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 02, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Ahmadinejad has said many other things which cause us to beleive he is delusional. I was not reffering to his beleives about Messiah or Mahdi. I beleive in God, but do not share same about world's destiny as you. I wish peace, health and success for every one. It is cleare fundementalism is the same no matter which side you are.

  • 82 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 02, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    "Ahmadinejad has said many other things which cause us to believe he is delusional.

    Aside from denying the murder of millions of Jews, could you give some examples?

  • 83 - some faker

    Jan 02, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    [Entire comment deleted]

  • 84 - Amin

    Jan 02, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    An attack on Iran would create absolute hell in Iran and the world.

    If you think that just because Iranians don't like their government they wouldn't retaliate to their country being bombed than your as naive as those who thought Saddam had WMD and bringing democracy to Iraq would be easy.

    Also, Iran is not an imminent threat to anyone. It supports the Shia government in Iraq and has recently given it a $1 Billion loan. It has given it hundreds of millions of dollars in aid because it is not in Iran's interest to have a failed state next door.

    A democratic Iraq is in Iran's interests because Iraq is a Shia nation and democracy means peace between the two Shia nations.

    This "Iran is funding the insurgency" is garbage peddled by the pro-war propagandists. Sunnis in US allied countries like Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are funding the insurgency.

    When will the warmongers give up lying?

  • 85 - ERIC the wise

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:36 am

    to ruvy and bird of paradise:
    no offense guys but i really admire what defender said on his comments and specially on comment # 49.that was a sharp thing to say. i really want to know who is behind the mask of the defender, and cyrus the great , how do you know that defender is an iranian?( according to comment # 83)

  • 86 - reza

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:38 am

    i agree with defender, he is a true defender. and i want to let you all know that an attack on iran will do no good, it'll just worsen the situation more than it already is .

  • 87 - isarel fighter

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:40 am

    and who the hell is defender anyway? and what does it matter? he is a loser.

  • 88 - mark

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:47 am

    i'm with defender to the end and i'm an american citizen and i couragely tell ruvy to go to hell. way to go defender. nice comments, and bythe way i know defender he is the reall author of the article for your records.

  • 89 - behzad

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:49 am

    defender, go defender, boy how much do i want to know who he is and what's his reall name.

  • 90 - political britney

    Jan 03, 2007 at 6:02 am

    oh defender is my hero altough i haven't seen his body yet but i'm sure i will one day. lol. so he is like a hero but under a mask and unknown but the only thing about him is that he is a high temper guy. he should be awarded for his comments. [Personal contact info deleted]
    i love to know you.
    love.
    britney.

  • 91 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 03, 2007 at 6:44 am

    I find all this amusing. When my adversaries sink to the level of screeching baboons (comment #88 - the fellow who "couragely" tells me to go to hell) it all gets laughable.

    Defender, it appears that you are emerging as the "Daredevil" of this particular comment thread, complete with a mosh pit of admirers (comments #83, #85, #86, #88, #89 & #90). Will you remove your mask for your adoring public?

    Cyrus "the great" - I'm still waiting for an answer to my question at comment #82.

  • 92 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Ruvy,
    Him being delusional is not my message. I'm trying to inform you that he is not in position of making important decision. But, since u r very curious, he felt that he was surrounded by some kind of light when he was giving speech in UN. Denial of Holacast is another one which you already mentioned. His defeat in local election should be a prove of his falling papularity.

  • 93 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    comment #83 is not from original Cyrus the Great. Please, stop using my code name!!

  • 94 - Christopher Rose

    Jan 03, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    Cyrus, I have deleted the content of comment #83 and the forging of your name.

    Christopher Rose
    Blogcritics Comments Editor

  • 95 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    "I work under the assumption that Ahmadinejad is not just a big-mouthed clown but someone who honestly believes in what he is saying, and in addition, has solid reason to have such beliefs.
    This is because I too, believe in the imminent coming of the messiah."
    This is definition of delusion: false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence.

  • 96 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    Ruvy,
    I beleive in Mahdi or Messiah too. But, there is a high suspicion that Ahmadinejad belongs to Hojjatieh cult. Contrary to traditional beleive of shiete to passively wait for return of Mahdi, they beleive with provoking war and chaos, we can expedite it! They were banned to get to power in government in Khomeini era. Even, today Ahmadinejad hesitates to reveal his connection to this cult. Now, threats to Iran, sanctions and even invasion, only will strengthen position of this people. Please, tell your government in Tel Aviv, leave us alone. LEAVE IRAN ALONE. We will take care of this regime if you leave us alone. If you invade, we have to defend our land and people.

  • 97 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    Thanks Chris.

  • 98 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 03, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    Cyrus,

    You are going to have to make up your mind here. Either belief in the arrival of the messiah is the sign of delusional belief or it isn't.

    But to your more interesting observation about Ahmadinejad belonging to an extreme cult in the Shia religion. This is something I was only vaguely aware of. Thank you. Presumably, the Mahdi whom Ahmadinejad was supposedly in contact with according to Ameri's analysis is a member of this cult too.

    Unfortunately the criminal regime in Jerusalem listens to its masters in Washington and Brussels, not to us Israelis. There is nothing I can say to them at all. They do not give a damn. And your regime keeps issuing its death threats. I hate to say this, because in all truth, I think Iranians and Israelis should be friends, not enemies, but until someone restrains this man Ahmadinejad's mouth, every Israeli will be looking for the air force here to do you folks in. I'm speaking as a friend who prefers to concentrate on destroying the Wahhabi.

    I should add that Jewish prophecy for centuries has warned that the "king of the south" mentioned in the book of Daniel would be an alliance headed by Persia, and that is exactly what appears to be shaping up.

    It does not look good at all.

  • 99 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 03, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    Let me clear my position about Messiah. I think the way Ahmadinejad is beleiving in it is delusional. Otherwise, as I said before, I'm a beleiver. My prediction is that Iran will emerge as secular power. An strategic friend for Israel. But, I hope the west will not be successful to use Israel as an excuse to take over Iran's energy resources. Just tell your people be patient.

  • 100 - marton

    Jan 04, 2007 at 1:23 am

    hey guys it'd been a long time since the last comment of defender, what happend to him, why is he not commenting anymore? defener if u still read these comments tell me are you scared ? then why you don't comment anymore? ruvy of the jerusalem what about you? do u have any news from the defender? i'm curious to know who he is.
    he is so mysterious and secret.

  • 101 - Bird of Paradise

    Jan 04, 2007 at 2:56 am

    Re defender: If nobody knows who "defender" is, then why do so many of you know that defender is a "he?" Just wondering.

  • 102 - marton

    Jan 04, 2007 at 3:08 am

    to bird of paradise:
    of course defender is a he, read his comments again, you'll know and understand why.

  • 103 - ERIC the wise

    Jan 04, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    ruvy of the jerusalem:
    why didn't you answer marton's comment # 100? we are all waiting.

  • 104 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 04, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    For those in "the defender's" little mosh pit. I have no clue who the dude is or where he is. I stopped changing other people's diapers when my sons outgrew them...

    Now, will the real guy faking the name Cyrus the Great please stand up? The real Cyrus the Great can't. He died over two millennia ago.

  • 105 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 04, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Ruvy,
    I used this code name to remind you and other jews of how much Iranians(Persians) play positive role in your hx. Now, most possibly on of your friends (he called himself David, once) is trying hard to undermind my comments with sending fake comments under my code name. This is silly. By the way, blood of Cyrus the Great is running in the body of millions of Iranians. Persia is rising again. Like a phenix. NOBODY can stop us.

  • 106 - The Haze

    Jan 04, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Ruvys right about Wahabbism and Saudi Arabia. I worked in the American prison system for 25 yrs. and saw the influence first hand. Also check and see what influence they tried to perpetuate in the Serb/Croat war.Also to the defender: you would be more credible if you controlled your mouth.Question:If the U.S. left Iraq today,right now, would they leave us alone? I think not.They(or whatever you want to call them)have a very serious agenda people. Anyone willing to strap bombs on them should be taken quite serious.Don't you think? Peace.

  • 107 - Clavos

    Jan 04, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    To the real Cyrus:

    Not to worry, Chris (or any editor) can tell which one of you is the real one by the IP number of your computer.

  • 108 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 04, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    Thanks Clavus.

  • 109 - David(fake Cyrus)

    Jan 04, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    hey cyrus, why can't you take a hard joke? you got all angry for no reason it was just a little joke and it was funny. :)) defender in peace.
    or whatever, later dudes.

  • 110 - marton

    Jan 04, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    [Please confine yourself to using just one name or your IP address will be banned. Thanks. Comments Editor]

  • 111 - defender

    Jan 04, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    i'm back due to the faithful people who noticed my empty seat.to bird of paradise:
    the government of iran either good or bad,is up to the decision that the citizen's of that nation will make,it does not include you and or anywhom else. the peaceful use of nuclear energy is willing to be used in positive purposes and will not be satatused for any inapropriate matters. iran is fourth oil-trading country in the world and cutting ties with other countries and urging them to stop trading with iran will not block iran from it's nuclear enrichment program. syra has strong both political and economical ties with iran to the point that president ahmadinejad said that even if united states tried, couldn't cut the relationship between syra and iran. and from some reliable sources iran is expecting an attack from quatar, where the united states largest and strongest millitary camp is based. there has been rough disagreements between united states and quatar recently and they may remove the millitary base off the quatar soon. and russia has recently sold 29 Tor-M1 missile systems to iran for 1.4 million dollars( 1.06 billion euros) and the air defence systems are being stationed around iran's civilian nuclear sites which are high ranges and will automaticaly lock any air craft and destroy it according to ITAR-TASS.and the head of the weapons maker engineering design bureau of china has made a recent contract to iran for it's oil exchanged by mass-destructive weapons and high performanced arms. with all that i cleared, you should know by now that iran's power is not a threat to any regional country and it's power is at service of region's peace. by imposin insecurity and ethnic clashes in iraq, united states just wants to strenthen their presence in the region. the U.N. resolution against iran's atomic work has no validity for iranians.it is illegal and politicaly motivated. it is up to the government to decide whether it wants to pull out of the NPT.i, defender am officialy inviting you to cooperate and let iran makes it's own decisions because it is not up to us to decide either iran has the right to produce fuel cycles. supreme leader ayatollah khameney has the final say in nuclear and other matters. iran is a free country and will not let any OUTSIDER force to solve the coflicts for them. iranian nation is wise and will stick to it's nuclear work and is ready to defend it completely.
    best regards, defender

  • 112 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 04, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Defender,
    The way you talk, look like that you are one of regime elements. Do you notice, you are contradicting yourself?!
    Look at this:
    "is up to the decision that the citizen's of that nation will make"
    VS
    "supreme leader ayatollah khameney has the final say in nuclear and other matters"
    Are u defender of the regime or Iranian nation?

  • 113 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 04, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    David,
    Peace. I'm happy you came out of your shell. I was not angry, but got annoyed!

  • 114 - Bird of Paradise

    Jan 04, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Defender, Welcome back. Your comments and arguments are welcome but please, keep your comments clean and civil . . . otherwise you undermine any respect your commments might otherwise receive. Thank you.

    In your most recent commnet you make some rather bold claims. You have not, however, responded to any of the points I made in my original post, namely:

    That Iran is funding, supplying and coordinating at least some significant amount of the Shi'ite violence in Iraq;

    That Iranian government and military officers (some with diplomatic passports...one of which was alleged to have been issued with a false identity) were captured in two separate raids in the company of Iraqi Shi'ites known to be active in commiting acts of terrorism against other Iraqis (as well as US troops)?

    Also, that funds and weapons are being channeled by Iran to Hizbullah in both southern Lebanon and Gaza . . . and that in Gaza, those who are able to fire rockets into Israel receive cash rewards?

    Also, released just two days ago, that documents found with the captured Iranian officials in Iraq included funding and support strategies for Sunni and al-Qaeda terrorist/insurgent groups as well as Shia?

    I suppose you will dismiss these matters as lies concocted by Israel and the US. But, the Gaza information came from inside Gaza itself, from the Palestinians who are being supplied by Iran!

    I would also beg to suggest that there was little or not serious thought of an attack or invasion against Iran until it began to advertise its nuclear program and violate the international treaties it had signed that subjected their nuclear program to international scrutiny.

    The reason Iran feels threatened (and it truly is being threatened) is because it has been messing around in neighboring countries blowing people up, shooting rockets into their towns and ensuring that as many Iraqis and Americans are killed with their weapons and surrogate troops as possible.

    In light of Syria's occupation and control of a supposedly sovereign nation and its alliance with Iran in supporting Hizbullah, etc., I should think that an Iran/Syrai alliance would be even one more reason for the United States to isolate Iran from the world of civilized nations with a strict embargo.

    Thanks for adding that one to my list.

  • 115 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 05, 2007 at 12:28 am

    Bird of Paradise,
    I'm not a supporter of regime. But, suppose your claims are true.
    How about US/Israeli support of Kurds in Western Iran. This has resulted hundreds dead and injured because of bombings and other terrorist acts.
    How about support for Arab minorities in Khuzestan in southerns Iran. They planted bombs several times in civilan areas. They did multiple assacinations.
    How about support for Baloochies in eastern Iran. Those who smuggle drugs and shut down Iranian army helicopters with stingers. Kidnapping passengers. Raping women.
    Who gave Saddam chemical weapons?
    Well, maybe they have learned that the best defence is offense.

  • 116 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 2:47 am

    to dear cyrus the great: i am truly a defender of the people and nation and not the government, but if people really show any disloyalty to the current government or the regime they have enough will to change it for better like they did before, but cutting iran's ties with other countries will just take people's peace and make it worse and harder for them to live, due to the history we have a good example pf this about thirty years ago. when iran and dr. mosadegh were trying to nationalize the oil and russians refused to buy the oil so did the rest of the countries, russians even refused to pay for their old debts and the government of iran was miserable at that time, that angered the nation and they knew they couldn't live like that so they stood up and a revolution took place.
    and to dear bird of paradise:
    we still don't know for sure that i it was the government of iran who supplid palestinians with weapons ar shooted rockets in iraq. I have a question for you, how is it possible for president bush to take out the government and change it for better without killing at least hundreds of unarmed or armed civilians and without firing missles? there can be easier ways, islamic republic of iran can oath not to make any nuclear weapons or take advantage of the right of having nuclear thechnology against any country or nation at all, only then if government of iran violate those terms and laws united states and u.n. and the security council is determind to act. and cyrus the great, well of course people make the decision and the supreme leader is a messenger of the people and he will tell the world what decision has the heir of cyrus has made. at some points I agree with you that ayatolah khamenei is (i'm sorry to say this guys) an asshole but he has never led iran down. and president ahmadinejad is a little dramatic, yes i agree but let's not forget that he is one of the most efficient presidents in iran's history and he has made a lot of positive improvements unill now. tell me cyrus have you or any of you ever lived in iran for long? well i have live in iran for 5 years and in summers there hasn't been a single week that the lights go off and electricity goes out for hours inside of the great capital city, tehran. and this happend every single year. you say that iran is too dangerous to have nuclear energy use due to it's violent actions, then perhaps you should find a resolution for the electricity conflict too. if u.n. and united states decide what's best for iran then maybe they should find a solution for each and everyone of the conflicts that are going on in iran such as : the daily heavy traffic, unemployment, drug addiction, proustituion, smuggling and alot more problems that iran and its people are facing right now. what security council and IAEA are saying in a simple say is: iran can't have nuclear powers but they have the right to do something about their electrical power but what ahmadinejad is doing is telling and explaining to them that in order to get to the electrical powers they need fuel cycles and nuclear system.it's like saying for example you are stuck in a cold place and you could die of cold and someguy just tells you OH NO YOU ARE DANGEROUS YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY WOOD BECAUSE YOU CAN HIT ME WITH THAT STICK BUT YOU NEED FIRE AND YOU CAN HAVE FIRE JUST NOT THE WOOD!!

  • 117 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jan 05, 2007 at 7:03 am

    Gentlemen,

    It is clear that those who seek to defend Iran/Persia on this comment thread are not of the mindset of the crazed mullahs who scream "satan" at America and Israel.

    In an article I wrote for Blog Critics Magazine last March about the difficulties of the Iranian government that it was facing in controlling the country, I quoted the website of Daniel Dana, who heads an opposition organization to the Islamic Republic.

    In a presentation he made to the Root & Branch Association two or three years ago, he presented his own personal vision of a renewed Persia reclaiming its own heritage. In his eyes, since the Sunni Moslems claim that Shia Islam is false, Persians should walk away from Islam altogether, returning to Zoroastrianism, or converting to Christianity or Judaism or whatever, just so long as they left the chains of Islam. I want to emphasize that this is his vision of a Persia reclaiming its ancient greatness. It is not for nothing that I think that any regime ruling Persia would want nuclear weapons. Dana pointed out, as does Cyrus above, that a secular Iran armed with nuclear weapons could well be a strategic ally of a Jewish entity here.

    These are not likely views you'll find on his website, as it has the job of rallying students who may be satisfied to be "secular" Shia, or who may be satisfied with a low level of observance of Islam. I wish to emphasize that what I've explained above is his own personal long range vision, ands not that of the organization he represents.

    BoP,

    I must re-iterate that sanctions against Iran would only be a joke. It is not the job of the Americans to contain Iran. The more they try to involve their military in the affairs of this region, the more they bring themselves closer to being brought down by the other powers on the planet, who yap like wolves at America's heels and seek for every opportunity to bring her down. Russia and China are presently using the Ahmadinejad regime as its proxy. Ahmadinejad, entranced with the role of bringing the Shia messiah to the Temple Mount to be presented to the world at the forefront of a renewed Persian empire, is lapping up the Russian and Chinese help like a cat lapping up milk.

    He is being set up to fall, as was the Pharaoh of Egypt 3,300 years ago...

    It would be preferable that he and the Islamic regime fell together, but he will fall and he will not succeed.

  • 118 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 05, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Defender,
    You asked me: "tell me cyrus have you or any of you ever lived in iran for long? well i have live in iran for 5 years"
    Yes, sir. I have lived in Iran. I'm the voice of millions of Iranians. I have served in parts of Iran that you can't even imagine. I spend years in military zone of Iran/Iraq border. I know things about war that has never been written or said in public.
    Ahmadinejad is a liability for Iran. He will be named in history books as the one of the worst leaders Iran has ever have. About electricitt. Things have been changed and Iran is progressing rapidly. Not because of people like Ahmadinejad who spend his time to held stupid conferences like the Holocost denial. But, because of highly educated and hard worker true Iranians. Now, we are exporting electricity to neighboring countries like Iraq, Turkey, Afghanestan, Armenia and....
    Khamenei has let us down in not making Ahmadinejad quit. If Khomeini was alive, I'm sure he would crush Ahmadinejad mouth multiple times by now. People are praying to make Ahmadinejad mouth shot.
    By the way, we want the bomb as the deterrant. If you have ever seen one of the victims of chemical weapon attach by Iraqis, you would understand how badly we need deterrance. So, nobody ever think of using WMD against our army and civilians.

  • 119 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    iran like all other countries have the irreversible and national right to use all the peace full technology as they need.Iran has the fuel cycle and very soon will push the button to produce nuclear fuel production for industrial uses. the iranian people have taken their decision and will in no way pay attention to empty cries of the materialists and the bullying of the decadent powers. i'm still not informed why avigdor liberman,israeli minister of strategic affairs keep calling on u.n. and the security council for a millitary action against iran and he highly recommends and the letter that he recently sent to u.n. to impose harshest and the most extensivest sanctions against iran the world has ever seen in order to suspend iran's uranium enrichment. ahmadinejad is a president, not a kid, he can vow not to abuse any right of having nuclear system. he clarified many times that the program is entirely peaceful. iran has already announced it has enriched uranium to the levels of arounf five percent. producing nuclear fuel that could theoretically be used in a power station would be another important step in mastering the nuclear fuel cycle. president ahmadinejad's latest comments come in defiance of a u.n. security council resolution at the end of last year which imposed sanctions against tehran for it's failure to suspend uranium enrichment. we all know that western powers want iran to suspend enrichment, a process that they fear could be used to make nuclear weapons and arms. bird of paradise, president bush kept using the excuse of "people of iran" and the fact that he and the u.n. security council are troubling themselves only for the peace of "peope of iran" in his recent talks and comments. but iranian people cleared that they will not retreat one iota from their rights. let me remind you cyrus, that its not the government or the ahmadinejad who is insisting on their position and want nothing more than their rights, it's the people. so I, defender of people regarding that the bullying powers should know that whatever fuss they make, they have to surrender to the iranian people's will. iran is installing 3,000 uranium enriching centrifuges at it's enrichment plant in natanz, central iran.russia is building another nuclear power station in the southern city of busher. i am the defender of iran and iran has every right to produce it's own nuclear fuel on iranian soil in defiance of international calls for the work to be carried outside the islamic republic. ruvy of the jerusalem, know that sanction would not limit the country's atomic work and iran has more than doubled its stockpile of the feedstock to enrich uranium. the west and the whole wide world should accept that this nuclear work is the national right of iran and is irreversible. here is a question for you bird of the paradise: haven't russia and china supported iran's right of nuclear production? or have you forgotten for some reasons that russia and china, are too members of the security council?

  • 120 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    and by the way guys i'm sorry for any misspelling, i type too fast, cyrus the great i meant to say "well i've liveD in iran for five years." not i live in iran for five years.

  • 121 - Bird of Paradise

    Jan 05, 2007 at 5:41 pm

    Defender, I am interested in how you declare that Ahmadinajad is "delusional" and yet you also ask us to take him at his word: "ahmadinejad is a president, not a kid, he can vow not to abuse any right of having nuclear system. he clarified many times that the program is entirely peaceful."

    I'm sorry, but I have a hard time taking a delusional man at his word. Why does Iran need nuclear power when they already have vast potential for hydro-electric power and some of the world's larget oil deposits (which are not being developed . . . are in disrepair . . . and only one refinery . . . Iran has to IMPORT virtually all of their refined petroleum products. Wouldn't this seem to be a more useful direction for Iran's electrical and industrial power needs? After all, the United States has not built a new nuclear power facility in over years. The only use we have had for nuclear power is for weapons' production! To think that Iran has any other motivation than to produce nuclear weapons is extremely naive and, well . . . delusional!)

  • 122 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    bird of paradise, you are wrong at some points,iran would never make any nuclear weapons and even if they do i'm positive the government of iran would not take advantage of them even if in war. this is just in and i'm sure none of you guys are aware of it that the u.s. government has imposed harsh sanctions on chinese, russian and north korean companies for selling missiles and other weapons to iran and syra.the sanctions prevent US government bussiness and support to the companies for two years and blocks u.s. firms from selling certain items to them. what government of united states doing is simply singling out the companies for public shaming. thanks god that the russian government and russian arms manufacturers reacted angrily to the report, condemning the move as unfair competition which it is.the introduction of umpteen sanctions against russian is a form of unfair competition.it is clear that american administration is simply afraid of competition with iran and it's supporters. of course who is really behind these sanctions. countries that have long-term strategic relations will not change them bacause of tactical issues. however i just want to let you all know that iran's administration is not concerned about the new sanctions, which bar trade in nuclear-and missile-related goods. the americans have been carrying out this kind of policy for twenty-seven years, and it never had much effect. bird of paradise know that it is not part of iran's stragety to seek nuclear weapons but if they are threatened that could change as the secretary of iran's supreme national security council, ali larijani had said before.the growing ties with russia and china, however are not affected and as i said before on my last comment, russia is establishing a 800 million dollar nuclear station in southern city boushehr. russia is working to water down the drafs of the security council resolution but if it doesn't work, as the russian foreign ministry spokesman said they will announce their support to iran to the u.n. .
    this technology will not be limited by sanctions as we all know.

  • 123 - Cyrus the Great

    Jan 05, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Defender,
    You wrote:
    "bird of paradise know that it is not part of iran's stragety to seek nuclear weapons but if they are threatened that could change"
    Are u out of your mind? Iran has been threatened almost daily. US jet fighters are penetrating our air space in south on daily bases. Almost every day red alarm is going off in Bushehr air base. Strike force of 4 air craft carrier battle groups just off Iranian shore was formed in Nov, 06 and now again formation of 3 battle group with 2 nuc subs is happening down there. If we are threatened????
    Your comments exactly look like translation of keyhan newspaper coming out of mouth of one of regime officials. That is the reason, I feel u r related to regime in some way. Be realistic. Iran needs nucs and need it badly.

  • 124 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 10:19 pm

    for your records cyrus you need to know that according to my comment "it is not part of iran's stragety to seek nuclear weapons but if they are threatened that could change" is not my comment, it's secretary of iran's supreme national security council, ali larijani's measseage, and about what you said about the bushehr and the aircraft, listen, i don't know where you get your information from and i don't really want to know because they are not half-percent right. american aircraft daily basis ended 4 weeks ago and the whole air-base of iran is under the controll of iran government and millitary officials. any aircraft crossing the border without any permission or notices will be fired down and destroyed. you need to read the news daily cyrus and to bird of paradise and ruvy of the jerusalem, you still havent answered my questions.

  • 125 - defender

    Jan 05, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    and there is no way that i'm an iranian regime official or have anything to do with them, my opinion is the truth should be told and i will do my best to inform as many people as i can.

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