Transgressions and Feedback Loops: A Partisan Rant - Page 3

1. Secular morality. Stand up and reject the religiously-determined ethical groundwork that the right finds so comforting. You don’t have to say you’re an atheist, as I mentioned at the beginning of this essay... just refuse to discuss your religious affiliation at all. Say you’re not going to govern in God’s name, or according to His law, but rather in the name of the American people and the enlightenment principles of fairness and opportunity. Then watch as your touchy issues turn into rallying points.

2. Marital liberty. Don’t fall back on political nuances to justify your support for a tolerant environment. Make it clear that homosexuality is not a crime or an aberration, whether it’s natural or a lifestyle choice. Whether it’s marriage or state-sponsored partnerships, make it clear that you want every person to have the same matrimonial rights, no matter who they choose as their romantic, sexual, and legal partner.

3. Socialization. Make it clear that small businesses and entrepreneurs are the heart and soul of American freedom and prosperity, and that large corporations, burying small businesses in pursuit of complete economic consolidation, eventually become an obstacle to that prosperity. The spirit of economic freedom dictates that you don’t dismantle the free market, but that you give those corporations the tax structure and the federal oversight to ensure that they play a healthy role in the American economy.

You don’t have to champion all three of these issues. I’m not that naïve. However, I assert and maintain that if a candidate vocally defended any one of these three positions, she would win my respect and my vote in whatever election she faced. If you’re looking for a clear commitment from a voter, look no further. Just stand up for a truly progressive ideal and I’ll back you.

Am I really alone in this? Am I the only believer? Or are there some others out there who are with me?

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  • 1 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:04 am

    Well hell, Jesse. I'm with you on most of this. Certainly on the secular morality, gay marriage and support of entrepreneurs (though I'd hardly call it 'socialization'), but here's what may be at the heart of your quandry. I'm a Republican and certainly not a leftist by any stretch of the imagination - in fact, a lot of your cohorts call me a 'conservative'.

    So maybe you're looking at the wrong end of the political spectrum for your validation here.

    Dave

  • 2 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:17 am

    as an Independent i heartily endorse all three planks of your proposed platform

    good luck getting and Dem to stand up for it, not enough spine between the lot of them

    as for the GOP being even remotely close to touching any of it...

    most...ludicrous...notion...EVER!

    could be a solid foundation for a truly viable third party, imo... far too many Americans hold exactly these kinds of Ideas, but have no political *home* for them

    that huge percentage that don't vote at all might find something worth voting for...and quite a few from each of the elitist clubs that make up the current parties would happily jump ship for a viable alternative

    i don't think it's a matter of if, just when

    your mileage may vary

    Excelsior?

  • 3 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:25 am

    gonzo, the gop has candidates running for president who have at one time or another endorsed all of the positions he describes. some of them are even frontrunners.

    dave

  • 4 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:34 am

    and how many touch any of them now that they are running for national office?

    1- secularism: please cite your example, i can see Ron Paul going for this one, none of the rest of that crew tho...and do remember what was it 3 of the candidates won't even stand up for evolution...spare me, ok?

    2 - staying our of our bedrooms and marriages: Giuliani and again Ron Paul...neither of whom will make it through the primaries because of it

    3 - small business over big business: this one you have to prove, again..even those willing to stand up for the little guys would do NOTHING to curb and regulate the big boys...if you think you have it, show your proof

    why anyone with even half an Intellect would support the GOP is difficult to fathom...unless their own nest gets feathered by them being in power

    but while i am all for self interest, i do NOT think it has to come at the expense of other's oppression, our environment or our rule of Law

    your mileage may vary...

    sell it to someone else, Vox..cuz i ain't buying shit, no matter how the salesman tries to polish it up

    Excelsior?

  • 5 - Les Slater

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:43 am

    Jesse,

    I am attempting to initiate a new political party. None of your requirements will be part of its program.

    The logic of this party will definitely be toward secularism, defense of social relationships that are private affairs between consenting individuals and a support of small business at the expense of the prerogatives of large businesses and their institutions.

    The major thrust, however, will be the defense of the needs of the working class.

    Les

  • 6 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:46 am

    Les, check the link in #4...you may have a theme song for your new Party

    Excelsior?

  • 7 - Les Slater

    Jul 10, 2007 at 3:57 am

    Gonzo,

    Thanks for pointing to the link. The sentiment of the song is pretty good.

    Leds

  • 8 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 5:02 am

    The major thrust, however, will be the defense of the needs of the working class.

    a concept whose value varies greatly depending on how you define the working class.

    dave

  • 9 - Ruvy in Jerusalem

    Jul 10, 2007 at 5:45 am

    Someone here should really take a look at The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. In it, he recommends that the prince appear to be religious to his subjects. For this reason you will not see a professed agnostic or atheist run for office and admit to what they believe...

    They all want to be Prince...

    "Here Prince! Here boy! Come on over! Now roll over. Fetch!!!


    Goood boy!!!

  • 10 - bliffle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Everyone should read "The Prince". Instead of just claiming they read it. Here's a handy pointer to the Project Gutenberg download (you can even get a version for your Palm now):

    Download The Prince

    Good reading.

  • 11 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 10:42 am

    bliffle - ya gotta add Sun Tzu's "the Art of War" and Miyamoto Musashi's "Book of Five Rings" to complete the trilogy for any that are really interested in understanding politics and political interaction on the grand scale

    hope that helps...

    Excelsior?

  • 12 - Doug Hunter

    Jul 10, 2007 at 10:51 am

    "why anyone with even half an Intellect would support the GOP is difficult to fathom"

    I'm not claiming to have even a partial intellect, but socialism doesn't appeal to me. Getting the government out of the bedroom is good, the problem with the socialists is they want to put the government in everywhere else.

    If you like having your money and finances, education and indoctrination, retirement and lack thereof, and healthcare and body controlled and micromanaged down to the point of telling you what lightbulbs to use, what to eat, what to drive, and how much of the proceeds from your own labor you can keep by some lame appointed failure of a bureacrat then by all means continue down the Dem path to servitude like the rest of the sheeple.

    It's not that leftists don't believe in god, to a leftist THE GOVERNMENT IS GOD!

  • 13 - bliffle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 10:55 am

    For eons in the USA religion has received a pass, In patricular, christianity. At somber public occasions when prayers are issued and entreaties made to god, everyone has been expected to bow their heads, whether theist, atheist, agnostic or non-theist alike (a non-theist is not for god, nor against the notion, nor pondering still, but simply finds it an uninteresting and unimportant question).

    Newspapers and politicians have always allowed religion to intrude and have bowed to the religionists. But that has certainly changed in the News area as the internet has become more ubiquitous and free discussion has replaced the hegemony of the MSM, which always covered up the sins of the religious and gave somber respect to religion.

    The general public has ceased to regard religionists as inherently having better morals and ethics as a parade of crooked businessmen and exposed politicians make their routine appeals to their gods for forgiveness, and then report back faithfully to us that god HAS forgiven them.

    It'll only be a matter of time before politicians give regard to the significant minority that comprises the irreligious. The first step will probably be to not disclose any such inclinations, instead of flourishing the routine hypocrisy of Personal Belief when it is evident to everyone that they have no such belief. Religious and irreligious alike have always recognized these lies for what they are: bows to the political power of the churches.

    And when politicians cease making those routine bows the power of the churches will crumble.

  • 14 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 10:57 am

    Doug, i think your premise is faulty on a few levels

    never have i said the Dems were the be all and end all Answer, i'm and Independent and think both parties are seriously flawed...

    but warrantless wiretaps and casually tossing habeus corpus out the window are FAR more dangerous to our Nation, imo

    and let us not forget the Fact that government has grown to record proportions during the last six years of a GoP controlled government, as did spending

    take a breath and look at the factual track record, and not just the hype and propaganda

    checks and balances remain our greatest Hope, not any kind of "-ology"

    Excelsior!

  • 15 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 11:02 am

    why anyone with even half an Intellect would support the GOP is difficult to fathom

    this question will make sense when there's an alternative to the gop which is politically viable and doesn't support policies which are entirely repugnant.

    i've said it before and i'll say it again. the gop may be corrupt and incompetent, but at least they espouse a philosophy of government which is positive and generally in the best interests of the people. the opposition starts from a point of supporting fundamentally destructive and unconstitutional policies. from that starting point, even if they aren't corrupt and incompetent (which they certainly are in reality) they cannot possibly be any better than the gop, which at least starts with good intentions.

    dave

  • 16 - Zedd

    Jul 10, 2007 at 11:05 am

    I sense that the author does not follow the candidates and their speeches. All of these topics have been dealt with and expressed.

    Now as for the atheist thing, maybe they aren't atheists.

  • 17 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 11:11 am

    unless and until the GoP even comes close to beginning to standup for some of those "intentions" and tosses aside some others, they remain not only hypocrites, but dangerous ones...

    as shown in my previous examples in comment #14, as well as a pre-emptive war that at best, was a demonstration of complete incompetence, and at worse a deliberate deception

    warrantless wiretaps, ignoring habeus corpus, cherry picking Intelligence for political purposes, outing a covert operative for political purposes and covering it all up...all of these historical facts are FAR worse and more damaging to our Republic than any imagined threat some wishfully believe the Dems appear to pose, imo

    your mileage may vary...

    Excelsior

  • 18 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 11:25 am

    and let us not forget the Fact that government has grown to record proportions during the last six years of a GoP controlled government, as did spending

    a common complaint, and i agree that growth has been excessive, but other presidents have presided over far more budgetary and pure numerical growth of the government by huge margins when compared to bush. bush has increased overall spending by 55% and non-military spending by 44%, in comparison, in a similar period the kennedy/johnson administration increased overall spending by 65% and non-military spending by 72%. that's substantially more.

    dave

  • 19 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 11:35 am

    that doesn't make it right, and you know that..but still insist on dredging up bullshit to try and justify your take on things...your choice, but still bullshit, imo

    and you have to count ALL spending, not just parts..it's like saying "economic indicators are good, after discounting food and fuel figures"...pure bullshit

    just because some one else has fucked up in the past does NOT excuse fucking up now..also funny to note you have to go back 45 years to find your example

    you are welcome to your Opinion, but bullshit will never cause me to change mine

    Excelsior?

  • 20 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    gonzo, i gave the figures for ALL spending, and what you're calling 'bullshit' here is just the correct facts to counter your untrue assertions.

    i went back to the period i chose because it was the fairest comparison, as it was also during a war and during a two term administration. it was clearly NOT chosen to make bush look good. there are more recent examples of presidents who massively outspent kennedy/johnson. You want a more recent comparison? Here you go:

    kennedy/johnson averaged 9% budget increase/year
    nixon/ford averaged 13.55% budget increase/year
    carter averaged 12% budget increase/year
    reagan averaged 6.6% budget increase/year
    clinton averaged 4.4% budget increase/year
    bush averaged 6.4% budget increase/year so far

    so your claims that bush has provided over record government growth are just pure partisan deception. it would be nice to see you admit it for once. i'll give due credit to clinton for holding down spending more than anyone since ike.

    what you're calling 'bullshit' here is just the correct facts to counter your untrue assertions.

    as for changing your opinion, when it is based on a basic lack of knowledge of the facts you might want to consider changing it rather than obstinately carrying on and calling the truth bullshit.

  • 21 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    thanks for the figures, and i have no argument with them...due note i said "record spending", meaning total dollars spent...my Apologies if i was unclear

    as fo rthe rest...i'm more than willing to listen, do please show/cite your examples of exactly what it is in the Dem platform you consider such a threat?

    i know in the past you have stated that you believe that the Dems have some kind of socialist segment that you find alarming...what makes me wonder is that even if so (and i know there are indeed some neosocialists among the Dems), the percentage of such appears to pale in comparison to even the neocon/theocon percentage amongst the GoP...both factions which you have stated to have problems with...but the combination of just those two factions represent a majority of the federally elected GoP representatives...and a far larger percentage than any avowed neosocialists in the Dem gang, as far as i know

    so spare me the false accusations of being any kind of partisan...even in this thread i readily state that there's a lot of fucked up shit among the Dems, but that in comparison to the factual instances of REAL danger to our Republic brought about in the last 6 years by the GoP (and i cite some of those examples)..the possible and theoretical threat you espouse form the Dems pales in comparison, imo

    oh yes, i repeat some of the serious dangers to keep them from being distracted away form attention, since they remain the gist of the problem and grist for the *mill*

    Excelsior?

  • 22 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    thanks for the figures, and i have no argument with them...due note i said "record spending", meaning total dollars spent...my Apologies if i was unclear

    then i suppose it could be said that every president engaged in record spending because every president spends more than the one before. that kind of comparison is meaningless.

    as fo rthe rest...i'm more than willing to listen, do please show/cite your examples of exactly what it is in the Dem platform you consider such a threat?

    i refer you to democratic socialists of america who express the perspective on government which is rapidly coming to dominate the democratic party.

    i know in the past you have stated that you believe that the Dems have some kind of socialist segment that you find alarming

    i think it is now safe to call it a socialist majority, or at least close enough to one that it dominates the party and especially the leadership.

    ...what makes me wonder is that even if so (and i know there are indeed some neosocialists among the Dems), the percentage of such appears to pale in comparison to even the neocon/theocon percentage amongst the GoP...both factions which you have stated to have problems with...but the combination of just those two factions represent a majority of the federally elected GoP representatives...and a far larger percentage than any avowed neosocialists in the Dem gang, as far as i know

    based on the compositio of congress there are about 20% of the republicans who i would call theocons and almost none who are neocons. by comparison democrats who have avowed allegiance to socialism make up more than a third of their membership in congress.

    and i think it's also significant that outside of their particular pet issues both neocons and theocons are either neutral or go along with gop party positions on other issues which are fairly reasonable.

    dave

  • 23 - gonzo marx

    Jul 10, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    you still appear to make baseless accusations and false comparisons in the matter

    i asked for exactly which portion of the Dem platform you find objectionable..i have yet to see a citation

    instead you point to the avowed socialists i mention as well, then proceed to make unfounded claims about them somehow "taking over" the Dem party...show your proof

    even your link doesn't give us any names of Dems that sign up for this agenda...whereas it has been shown how 3 of the GoP Presidential candidates openly state they do not belive in evolution (theocons) or the voting records of current GoP officeholders that go along with the neocon agenda

    "sound and fury, signifying nothing"

    Excelsior?

  • 24 - Dr Dreadful

    Jul 10, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    Wait, wait, Dave - back up...

    You're a Republican? With a capital R? I thought you were a Libertarian (with a capital L).

    I stress the capitalizations because otherwise these things are just labels, and not worth a gnat's fart.

  • 25 - Dave Nalle

    Jul 10, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    my keyboard won't currently capitalize, so pardon the imprecision, dr.d. i was a longtime member of the libertarian party, but recently gave up on its inability to do anything sensible at all. i've been a republican for several years, but i still hold to a basically libertarian philosophy with some reasonable accomodations with common sense. and i'm not alone. there are a lot of libertarian leaning republicans - more all the time.

    dave

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