Todd Palin is a terrorist? Where did he throw his bombs? Whose sacred cow did he barbecue?
As election day gets closer, the rhetoric on both sides of the political spectrum becomes more and more inflamed. A new high water mark in over-the-top ranting was reached today when syndicated radio host Bill Press, whose show appears on both Sirius and XM Radio, called first husband of Alaska Todd Palin a terrorist, based on his involvement with the Alaskan Independence Party. Press commented on the air:
What's the difference between a secessionist and a terrorist? Isn't a secessionist just another form of a terrorist? Ask Abraham Lincoln...Let's find out what the "First Dude" was going to do in order to secede from the union. I tell you it wasn't going to be peaceful.
Todd Palin seems to have become the new designated angle of attack on the McCain campaign. With Sarah Palin's remarkable recovery in the Vice Presidential debate, more and more attacks directed at her have been backfiring. She has a teflon quality which comes from her attitude, her gender and her background which makes her difficult to tear down effectively. So the strategy of the hour is to go after her husband, who has done very little to attract attention, except having been involved off and on as a registered but non-participating member of the Alaskan Independence Party.…
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26 - Jordan Richardson
Is that OK with you?
Clav, you can vote for whoever you want to. I couldn't care less. I'm not suggesting you vote one way or another.
What I am suggesting is that the ridiculous mudslinging and false accusations directed towards ANY candidate discredit the discussion and downgrade the process to ridiculous depths of idiocy. This constant repetition of lies and allegations has to stop (but it never will).
The bottom line has been said already: no single candidate in this election or any other is going to spell the end of the world as we know it or usher in some form of communism, Islamofascism, or some other sort of hybrid system to usurp the "democracy" in the "Greatest Country in the World."
It's ridiculous.
27 - El Bicho
It's all they got, Jordan, when the ideas prove not to be working.
28 - Heloise
Todd Who? Is all she wrote.
How about these apples Dave: I just found out that Obama (2008-hybrid) and Heloise both drive the Ford Escape. But I've been knowing that McCain simply drives....everybody crazy.
Or how about this one I just thought of: McCain's personality is so split up that he can drive all 13 of his cars at once! So that he doesn't have to make up his mind which one to drive.
29 - zingzing
dave: "What RJ and others don't quite grasp is that some of these people - Ayers in particular - are not viewed as 'unsavory' by the left, but are instead heroes from the 60s who many in the modern left like Obama look up to as their progenitors in the marxist revolution business."
dave, you seem to find a communist behind every bush. you're losing it. there is no coming marxist revolution. there is no communism coming to america. there is no reason why you should even worry about such a thing. it ain't going to happen.
but, while you go poking around in your back yard for reds, the rest of us will be working on trying to get us out of stupid wars, economic meltdown and stopping the erosion of our rights.
you just keep looking for communism. it keeps you out of our hair.
30 - Arch Conservative
"I mean, really, after all the incredible mud Palin has slung at Obama the past two weeks you really have the gall to write something like this?
What planet do you live on?"
Yeah roughly half the people that support Obama have been calling Bush Hitler, blaming him for hurricane Katrina and claiming he knew about 911 for the last eight years and Nalle is the one with gall?
What planet do you live on Lisa?
31 - Jordan Richardson
Yeah roughly half the people that support Obama have been calling Bush Hitler, blaming him for hurricane Katrina and claiming he knew about 911 for the last eight years and Nalle is the one with gall?
Actually, Obama's been compared to a Nazi as well. And I haven't heard anyone blame Bush for Katrina, but he has been rightly criticized for his response. Also, there are serious questions the current president needs to answer regarding 9/11. It happened "on his watch," so I find the questions and the allegations ultimately fair.
32 - Clavos
I haven't heard anyone blame Bush for Katrina, but he has been rightly criticized for his response.
True. But, oddly, Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco, who, as Mayor and Governor respectively, had much greater and more immediate responsibility, making their failure much greater than FEMA's, are hardly ever criticized by the people who lambaste Bush for the Katrina aftermath.
Wonder why?
Here in Florida, where we are much more adept and expert in responding to hurricanes, we look to municipal, county, and state first responders to carry the bulk of the response, knowing the feds won't even show up for days.
Our local and state authorities don't let us down, either.
33 - DaveNalle
Plus the exact same FEMA people including 'brownie' performed really well right before Katrina in dealing with a fairly serious hurricane situation in Florida. The difference between Florida and Louisiana was the local government, not the FEMA people involved.
Dave
34 - Arch Conservative
"Actually, Obama's been compared to a Nazi as well."
He's not a nazi....just an empty suit socialist idealist that would be bad for America.
"And I haven't heard anyone blame Bush for Katrina, but he has been rightly criticized for his response."
If you've never heard anyone blame him for it you haven't been listening and if you understand how the emergency response process works you'd know that Ray Nagin and governor what's her face should have received equal, if not more blame for the shoddy preparation and reaction to Katrina but hey don't let that stop you and Kanye west from asserting that the Katrina catastrophe was all Bush's fault.
Also, there are serious questions the current president needs to answer regarding 9/11. It happened "on his watch," so I find the questions and the allegations ultimately fair.
Yes it happened on Bush's watch and it's party his fault but claimign he should have done more to prevent is a totally different thing than sayign he knewing exactly what was going to happena nd allowed it. Do you believe that Bush allowed 911 to happen Jordan?
It's just amazing that those supporting Obama who have been saying the most vile, untruthful, inflammatory things about Bush and the GOP for the past eight years are now getting their panties in a bunch because people are going after Obama.
I do object to the people at the McCain rallies calling for Obama to be killed though. It just doesn't make sense. Why would you make a martyr for the leftist cause out of a guy who is destined to be a one term president who will expose himself for the ineffectual, inexeperienced fraud that he is if elected? Better to let Obama's new and vaccuous brand of left wing politics die by it's own hand.
35 - moon
I am getting really bored with watching Sarah pick up dollar bills without using her hands.
How presidential!
36 - Jordan Richardson
Do you believe that Bush allowed 911 to happen Jordan?
Yep.
Also, Kanye said "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Which is true.
37 - Jordan Richardson
Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco, who, as Mayor and Governor respectively, had much greater and more immediate responsibility, making their failure much greater than FEMA's, are hardly ever criticized by the people who lambaste Bush for the Katrina aftermath.
Have you ever seen the Spike Lee documentary When the Levees Broke? You should watch it, very illuminating.
Plus the exact same FEMA people including 'brownie' performed really well right before Katrina in dealing with a fairly serious hurricane situation in Florida. The difference between Florida and Louisiana was the local government, not the FEMA people involved.
Oh well, as long as they performed well before Katrina in dealing with a "fairly serious" hurricane situation. I guess FEMA's right off the hook based on that reasoning. So is any restaurant whose food was "really good" prior to large scale cases of food poisoning...
What is the purpose of FEMA, Dave, if the responsibility falls on local and state governments to handle these disasters?
I can answer that: FEMA is designed as the Federal Emergency Management Agency. It's job is to get involved with disaster relief when the response "overwhelms local and state authorities." FEMA failed on a number of levels, especially with the coordination of the governor and local authorities. As Clavos mentioned the failure of those authorities in his response, it is actually FEMA's job to make sure that failure doesn't happen at the local levels. We can also look to FEMA for the monumental disaster in providing people with adequate relief housing after Katrina. Indeed, there are pages and pages of reports from bipartisan committees regarding the failings of FEMA and how things should be done differently. Saying that FEMA did "rather well" in a smaller hurricane situation is just silly.
38 - Dr Dreadful
While not a direct accusation against Bush, I do recall watching someone (I think it was Farrakhan) accuse the government of deliberately exacerbating the effects of Katrina by sabotaging the levees before the storm hit.
39 - Jordan Richardson
Dave, regarding FEMA's performance regarding Hurricane Frances, the Sun-Sentinel has a fairly extensive list of reports that are less than flattering.
40 - Jordan Richardson
While not a direct accusation against Bush, I do recall watching someone (I think it was Farrakhan) accuse the government of deliberately exacerbating the effects of Katrina by sabotaging the levees before the storm hit.
Well, there certainly was a problem with the floodwalls. And I've heard people say that they heard "explosions" before the levees gave way, although those stories aren't entirely credible.
Bottom line is that the government sure as hell knew about the breach.
Any way you look at it, it was a monumental government failure on just about every level.
41 - Phred
Yep...pretty suspicious.
"who died under suspicious circumstances in 1993"
"Convicted thief Manfried West confessed to having murdered Vogler the following year in what he described as an illegal plastic explosive sale gone bad".
Yep...Todd Palin was a member.
Yep...Item #2 of the organizations stated goals are sessionist.
'The Alaskan Independence Party's goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.
The call for this vote is in furtherance of
the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party's founding father, Joe Vogler, which was for Alaskans to achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.'
We've got people locked up in Gitmo on less proof.
42 - Dave Nalle
One key fallacy here. Advocating secession is NOT in fact a crime.
Dave
43 - John
"One key fallacy here. Advocating secession is NOT in fact a crime."
Dave
It sure got Abe Lincoln all riled up.
44 - Cindy D
No Dave it's not a crime. Neither is being anti-American.
It's rather fucked up though for "Miss America" to be running around saying other people don't see America like we do, and all her other horseshit ad infinitum. Other people like Obama are anti-American but my hubby the secessionist is what?
Dave, you are smart enough not to have all this spelled out. Stop playing dumb as a post.