Twenty years removed, Tiananmen Square information is still suppressed in China.
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Tiananmen Square: 20 Years Later - Comments Page 2
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26 - Jeannie Danna
Why are you such a bully?
27 - Maurice
I worked for Motorola in Hong Kong one year after the attack in Tiananmen square. I was the only American. All the local engineers would lower their voices when I would ask their thoughts on what happened. I could feel their fear.
Our own government will soon be the same as theirs. Once they control all industry, banking and healthcare then those that don't assimilate well will be beaten and killed.
Some people just don't like to see other people living free.
28 - Clavos
Hey, Maurice, haven't heard from you for a while!
Your outlook for our new government is remarkably like mine.
Not surprisingly.
29 - Jeannie Danna
Maurice, I can't agree with you. I believe in the best America has to offer not the worst.
30 - roger nowosielski
Well, Maurice. I spent the first sixteen years of my live in Poland when it was a satellite. Not quite the same, I'm certain, of the "reign of terror" in China.
Still, you definitely experience the fresh breeze of freedom once in the West. A problem is, most Americans don't really appreciate what they've got. (Again, I'm not certain whether my use of the present tense in the penultimate statement is correct,)
31 - Jeannie Danna
Well Jordan and Roger, I'll talk with you both tomorrow about whatever we want! Free country and all...:)
32 - roger nowosielski
Till tomorrow the, Jeannie.
33 - Maurice
Clavos
I was finally laid off from Micron. I now have time to blog a little in between looking for work. So many thousand of Engineers have been laid off that I am seriously considering a career change. My last 2 sons are strong and stupid so I have been thinkings about a father and son moving business. Maybe call it Felony Moving? Perhaps that is too revealing of their past. Hope all is well with you.
34 - Ruvy
A bug (on this site) refused to carry the data from the comments box to the comments thread. Apparently it has been fixed.
I'll say this much about Jordan's article, and hope you all comprehend. He who pays the piper calls the tune. The Chinese are manufacturing most of what is used in the world, and they are collecting the money for it. In other words, instead of spending wealth, they are creating it.
Their methods can be brutal - no gainsaying that. But America's methods can be brutal too. And they have been. One American, who continually writes articles on torture, has learned eo apply Chinese water torture.... However, that is all just minor quibbling. The bottom line is that America is bankrupt - and China is the creditor.
Either learn to pay up and shut your mouths - or kill the creditor.
35 - Maurice
Geez, Ruvy that is kind of a downer! I have preached that very concept in the past - manufacturing leaving and design and marketing to follow. It is happening faster than I predicted. Micron lost its manufacturing last year and now design (me included) are being replaced by over seas talent. I have to disagree with your kill the creditor comment. Perhaps we need to focus on an economic battle instead of a military one. And we need to take it as seriously as they do. This country has been anti-corporation for a long time and it is time we change that and try to rebuild our golden goose.
36 - Clavos
This country has been anti-corporation for a long time and it is time we change that and try to rebuild our golden goose.
Quoted for Truth.
If we don't, we're lost. Unfortunately, under the present regime, strengthening our commercial base isn't even in the back seat, it's in the trunk.
37 - Clavos
Maurice,
Really sorry to hear about the layoff. From all I hear, you're absolutely right about the surplus of engineers on the job market. The moving company idea sounds like a good one on a couple of levels, not the least of which is you can keep an eye on them all day.
38 - roger nowosielski
"This country has been anti-corporation for a long time and it is time we change that and try to rebuild our golden goose."
Who exactly, Maurice? General public sentiment? People who don't count? The media? I think it's a half-truth. It's arguable that those who do count - even the governmental powers, and yes, even in the present administration - are not against corporations, especially the big multinationals.
Perhaps what we're seeing is a kind of disconnect between appearances and reality.
39 - Jordan Richardson
This country has been anti-corporation for a long time
Really? Did anyone tell the corporations?
40 - roger nowosielski
I was wondering if anyone but me would find it incongruent. I see I can always count on you - well, almost always.
41 - Ruvy
Maurice,
Good to see you posting again, even if we do disagree. Sorry to hear about the layoff from Micron Engineering. I agree with Clavos about the moving company idea. Just make sure your own back is up to the job.
I was laid off from an American firm in March, and am very nervous about accepting employment from Americans. I just can't rely on them to stay in business....
You're right about corporations needing a thorough look-see - along with banks, stock brokerages and the rest of the business structure that has failed you so magnificently. But the ass-holes in power are not the ones to do the examining - decent, intelligent citizens like you are the ones who should be entrusted with the job.
As for killing the creditor - that is the only alternative you have to coughing up all that you own to him. Eventually, the Chinese will want to collect on their teds. They invented paper money. They know better than any suit from an American university its weaknesses....