Is the GOP in danger of becoming the Gay Ol' Party? Another Bush spiritual advisor in trouble.
I had this strange dream last night about President George Bush rushing out of the front door of the White House at about two in the morning. He was wearing a wedding dress, complete with veil and train. With fists balled up in frustration, he screamed for all he was worth, “Is EVERYBODY gay?”…
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26 - JustOneMan
hey jet ...pretty funny posting to yourself under an alias...
the truth hurts...doest it...seems like a "bunch of facist" queers have taken over blogritics
27 - Hannity Limbaugh
Wrong again, Just One. The right-thinking people have gathered DNA from the washrooms over at Fox news, and spliced it all together, then force grown me in a tub of oxy-contin just for the sole purpose of exposing wanna-be, intellectually bankrupt prigs for the fakes they are.
Neocons, theocons and the like are going to go down like an altar boy in a Boston arch-diocese. All of you puffed up bits of brainlessness will be exposed, and real Goldwater conservatism will rise from the ashes into a phoenix of small government, stay the fuck out of the bedroom, fiscally responsible , Constitution loving, truth telling politics that real Americans want.
The time of loud mouthed, small brained busybodies is drawing to an end.
28 - Dave Nalle
Re: the title.
How can drugs be 'gay'?
Dave
29 - Jet in Columbus
Ahh, now that explains a lot. Thanks Hannity Limbaugh and may your test tube never go cold.
30 - Jet in Columbus
I'll take an athsperin and get back to you on that one Dave.
31 - Jet in Columbus
I wonder if it could be a bad fuse?
32 - JustOneMan
Jet thanks for proving my point..
For some reason you think that child molestation is a laughing matter..."altar boy in a Boston arch-diocese"
[Personal attack deleted] its not "stay the fuck out of the bedroom" is not the point! Its keep your fuckin hands off little boys..this is something you will not admit is wrong!
JustOneMan
33 - El Bicho
How can drugs be 'gay'?
Dave, try ecstasy. That's as close as a drug can get.
34 - Jet in Columbus
Thanks for making me laugh El Bicho. I've been watching this story develop all day. Bush is in Colorado campaigning and seems to be playing down the anti gay marriage ballot innitiavie for some reason.
Bush also seems to have dissavowed any knowledge of Haggard's freindship and counseling. A true definition of a fairweather friend if ever I heard one.
Haggard's church seems to be going further and further into denial too, and it'd be funny, but not surprising if they give him a slap on the wrist and reinstate him.
He admitting to buying drugs, but I wonder if that can be considered a legal confession that the cops can go after.
true hypocrites that they are, they do seem to be persuing Jones, thinking he's dealing drugs, even though both parties made clear they were bought from a third party.
alas
35 - El Bicho
Glad you got a chuckle, Jet. When the thought police swing by, remember that I was just passing on someone else's experience (wink).
I doubt any arrests can be made. If there are no drugs, there is no evidence or else the jails would be filled with artists.
Since Jones did say he got the drugs, I can see the police investigating him, but I would think if he was going to drop this bombshell, he wouldn't have any incriminating evidence lying around though I'm sure police stumble across arrests from slips of the tongue all the time.
36 - JustOneMan
Speaking of drugs...is your medication adjusted or our you still having those feelings?
JustOneMan
37 - Jet in Columbus
I don't know El Bicho, you'd think they'd haul him in just to hassle him at least.
38 - Jet in Columbus
UPDATE: Haggard's been fired...
"We the Overseers Board of New Life Church have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard. Our investigation has proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct. In consultation with leading evangelicals and experts familiar with the type of behavior that Pastor Haggard has demonstrated, we have decided that the most positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal. In addition, the overseers will continue to explore the depth of Pastor Haggard's offense so that a plan of healing and restoration can begin. Pastor Haggard and his wife have been informed of this decision and they have agreed as well that he should be dismissed and a new pastor for the church should be selected according to the rules of replacement in the bylaws.
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39 - Mr.Ed
WEEL-BURRRRRRRRRR.
40 - Jet in Columbus
Why Grandma what a deep voice you have!
41 - Jet in Columbus
If haggard wanted an new career, he could always go in for gay modeling... if his wife and boyfriend will let him...
42 - Jet in Columbus
Kinda makes you wonder how many pastors are getting sideways looks this morning as their flocks wonder "Is he one too?"
Well let's see we've infected the Catholics and the Southern Baptists evangelicals, I guess that leaves the druids and the rabbis.
scary thought
43 - Jet in Columbus
UPDATE:REV. HAGGARD CONFESSES TO THE GAY SEX ACCUSATIONS!
Rev Ted Haggard confessed to his followers Sunday that he was guilty of sexual immorality.
In a letter that was read to the congregation of the New Life Church by another clergyman, Haggard apologized for his acts and requested forgiveness.
"I am so sorry for the circumstances that have caused shame and embarrassment for all of you," he said, adding that he had confused the situation by giving inconsistent remarks to reporters denying the scandal.
"The fact is I am guilty of sexual immorality. And I take responsibility for the entire problem. I am a deceiver and a liar. There's a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it for all of my adult life," he said
For the rest of this FORBES article click anywhere in the underlined section.
44 - Jet in Columbus
Thanks to Lisa McKay Haggard's confession os gay sex is included in the body of the article.
Much appreciated
Jet
45 - Nancy
Ahhh...bravo, Elmer Gantry & Seth Pecksniff. I do love it when self-righteous religious hypocrites are exposed for the sorry, 2-faced, exploitive shits they really are. It's just a pity their followers generally don't have enough brains to be convinced to wash their hands of these frauds & their religious hype once & for all.
As for Junior denying three times he knew the good Rev, this isn't the first time he's done that; after all, he denied being good buddies with the Enron boys as well, his big donors all. Dubya must be a reincarnation of Judas, hey?
46 - Jet in Columbus
Nancy, I'd actually found several articles that said that Haggard had visited the white House once or twice a month and that he talked to Bush personally about the same frequency of time, but none of the storys were consistant, so I took the lowest denominator.
Seeing how we was a MAJOR leader in the evangelical movement, it's hard to believe that Bush wouldn't have consulted with him more.
That bush lied about how often came as no surprise at all. I wonder if his confession self-destructed in 10 seconds as Bush diavowed him?
Too bad my credit cards are all maxxed out, or I'd try to find Mr. Jones in Denver.
My god he's 49.
Mama mia
Jet
47 - JustOneMan
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Noooooooooooooooo!
A Queer in the Whitehouse! Damn that Bush!
Remember Boys & Boys.."The Dems Tough On Queers Accepting of Pedophiles"
JustOneMan
48 - Silas Kain
Here we go again. Another Christian Fanatical Preacher is outted as a homo. Oh, God, homosexuality is a sin. We must forgive our brother in Christ. Bullshit. This sanctimonious cocksucker is a scourge on all us cocksuckers who lead open, honest lives. Haggard should be stripped of his preachery robes, income tax status and any and all property he accumulated by takling money from poor unsuspecting Jesus freaks ho knew no better than to tithe that 10% to God. Maybe he can open an escort service with Jeff whats-his-name, the gay conservative reporter who was probably having sex with Ari Fleisher in the White House laundry closet.
49 - Jet in Columbus
Nice idea Silas, but wrong guys. He's disgraced already, so why not become an overnight multimillionaire. They're both famous and both out of the closet now, one out of obscurity one known nationwide.
Can you just imagine how much Ted Haggard and Mike Jones could make if they did an X rated movie together? Those have to be two of the sexiest looking 50 year olds I've ever seen in my life!
If they'd strike while the "iron is hot" ha ha, like Bobbit did, they'd be rich by Christmas!!!
Then Ted really would be inspirational!!!
50 - Jet in Columbus
Silas, here's an even scarier one than what I just typed. What if we're being set up in a grand con, and a month from now Haggard will announce a miracle from God and he's been "cured".
In celebration his church gives him his pulpit back and Bush even calls to congratulate him.
He'd be the first saint of the evangelist right wing!!!!
51 - JustOneMan
sick and getting sicker....
52 - Jet in Columbus
Mike Jones released a statement regarding Rev. Haggard's confessions that the sexual allegations were true today.
Jones, who said he is gay, said he came forward because he was upset when he discovered who Haggard was and that New Life opposed same-sex marriage " a key issue in Colorado, with a pair of issues on Tuesday’s ballot.
“I wish him well. I wish his family well,” Jones said Sunday. “My intent was never to destroy his family. My intent was to expose a hypocrite.”
The scandal has disappointed Christian conservatives, whom President Bush and other Republicans are courting heavily in the run-up to Tuesday’s election.
Many were already disheartened with the president and the Republican-controlled Congress over their failure to deliver big gains on social issues even before the congressional page scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley.
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53 - JustOneMan
yawwnnn...this is news? Another morally bankrupt homosexual is disgraced....gee the left has taken homophobia to a new low...oh well...
JustOneMan
54 - Spiritual Commentary
"Halls of Shame" -- Contemplating Haggard's situation from a spiritual perspective.
http://www.spiritualcommentary.com
55 - Jet in Columbus
Well... Spiritual, isn't it interesting how fast the avengelical jackels have turned on their own?
56 - Don in Dallas
JoM, It's quite amazing that you never hear about the sexual "appetites" of heterosexual people in the news. I know FAR more straight people into S&M, bondage, rape scenes, etc than any gay people that I've met. The only pedophiles it's turned out that I've known personally have been straight men and women. And your "statistics" are twisted and without factual base so that you can prove whatever it is that you want to prove. How many congressmen on Capital Hill do you think are playing outside marriage with women? How often do you hear about that and why is that never such a scandal as well?
57 - Jet in Columbus
Very True Don, and thanks for contributing to the conversation. From what I understand after his latest confession, he packed his wife and kids and left town.
It's going to be tough going from being that famous to trying to be an unknown.
58 - El Bicho
"JoM, It's quite amazing that you never hear about the sexual "appetites" of heterosexual people in the news."
Maybe he doesn't listen to Howard Stern now that he's moved to Sirius?
59 - Jet in Columbus
El Bicho I wish I could afford Sirius, I miss Howard in the morning so much, and I bet he's even better uncensored.
drat
60 - JustOneMan
Don....
Dont let facts, truth and reality get in the way of your lifestyle! The facts and stats speak for themselves. Not sure if your social circuit is a true reflection of society..ususaly scumbags tend to hang out together..
JustOneMan
61 - Jet
UPDATE: ...These days, Haggard and wife and children are living in Arizona, trying to make a go of it. His post-outing life is chronicled in a documentary due to air in January on HBO, and according to stories in the Colorado Springs Gazette (here and here), the film depicts Haggard as still struggling, still troubled.
“As cameras follow him on a job interview, golfing, doing his laundry, moving into a house, selling insurance and dining in a restaurant, Haggard is extremely forthcoming.
He rattles on about his same-sex attraction, bitterness toward New Life, revised view of the Bible (he relates more to the stories of strife and sorrow) and difficulty in his new career as an insurance salesman.
Throughout the film, he swings from self-loathing to self-aggrandizement to self-pity, yet only once does he seem to express real emotion. That occurs as he drives down a lonely highway to make stops to sell insurance. Close to tearing up, the 52-year-old former pastor says, ”At this stage of my life, I am a loser.””
The portrait painted of Haggard is not of a man who has “chosen” to be gay, as some still like to describe it. It is not a “lifestyle” for Haggard; it is part of who he is. As a consequence, he has been cast out into the wilderness by those who profess love and community, and he is bitter about it. (It is important to note that in his earlier life, Haggard himself had participated in spreading the homophobia he now finds aimed in his direction.)
“The church has said go to hell,” Haggard says in the documentary. “The church chose not to forgive me.”